Re: [TCP] Postings on TCP are being archived by another service
The situation could be worse. Here's the code: FORM METHOD=POST ACTION=/cgi-bin/Nomailto.pl INPUT TYPE=HIDDEN NAME=user VALUE=rhonda.bracey INPUT TYPE=HIDDEN NAME=host VALUE=cybertext.com.au INPUT TYPE=HIDDEN NAME=subject VALUE=Re: [TCP] Any good free web design software for sales manual? INPUT TYPE=HIDDEN NAME=msgid VALUE=[EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply via email tobr INPUT TYPE=SUBMIT VALUE= Rhonda Bracey /FORM Most spambots won't harvest this. If any spambot knows how this service works, it can easily harvest the address. From a programming standpoint, it's a baffling decision, since they could have used a database token instead (email use #8934561) which would allow the same script to look up the user. What it does is kind of neat otherwise, which is redirect to a mailto: link. Not speaking in defense of the company. --- Rhonda Bracey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Lisa et al I don't know if this is official or not, but I just got a Google Alert for a posting I made on TCP, which is reproduced here: http://www.mail-archive.com/tcp@techcommpros.com/msg02418.html. I guess of most concern is that the Email button at the bottom of the post opens Outlook with my address plain to see... Even though the body of the message has [EMAIL PROTECTED]. Is this an official copy, or is someone harvesting the TCP messages without your knowledge? I know that Bill Swallow had a bit of a fight with something similar for HATT a few months back. Don't know if it's the same 'service' or not. Rhonda Rhonda Bracey [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.cybertext.com.au AuthorIT Certified Consultant __ Author Help files and create printed documentation with Doc-To-Help. New release adds Team Authoring Support, enhanced Web-based help technology and PDF output. Learn more at www.doctohelp.com/tcp. Interactive 3D Documentation Parts catalogs, animated instructions, and more. www.i3deverywhere.com ___ Technical Communication Professionals Post a message to the list: email [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscribe, unsubscribe, archives, account options, list info: http://techcommpros.com/mailman/listinfo/tcp_techcommpros.com Subscribe (email): send a blank message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe (email): send a blank message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Need help? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] Get the TCP whole experience! http://www.techcommpros.com http://technical-writing.dionysius.com/ technical writing | consulting | development Moody friends. Drama queens. Your life? Nope! - their life, your story. Play Sims Stories at Yahoo! Games. http://sims.yahoo.com/ __ Author Help files and create printed documentation with Doc-To-Help. New release adds Team Authoring Support, enhanced Web-based help technology and PDF output. Learn more at www.doctohelp.com/tcp. Interactive 3D Documentation Parts catalogs, animated instructions, and more. www.i3deverywhere.com ___ Technical Communication Professionals Post a message to the list: email [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscribe, unsubscribe, archives, account options, list info: http://techcommpros.com/mailman/listinfo/tcp_techcommpros.com Subscribe (email): send a blank message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe (email): send a blank message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Need help? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] Get the TCP whole experience! http://www.techcommpros.com
Re: [TCP] Postings on TCP are being archived by another service
It's got less to do with my email address (as I do have specific email addys in use). It has more to do with someone archiving what I post and someone else being able to access what I've said. There are reasons I don't subscribe to techwhirler, and why I'm (generally!) very professional on the AuthorIT Yahoo group. All other lists I'm on are closed. Can't view posts unless you're a member. And membership is screened. ...sue On 10/16/07, Dan Goldstein [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Both TECHWR-L and TCP have worse security than Yahoo lists, LISTSERV(r), etc. Having said that, there's no such thing as a truly private e-mail list. -- Dan Goldstein -Original Message- From: Sue Heim Sent: Tuesday, October 16, 2007 9:38 AM To: Lisa Gielczyk (TCP ADMIN) Cc: email Subject: Re: [TCP] Postings on TCP are being archived by another service Can you please let us know if you set up an archive service? I do NOT want my email address available unless I provide it, and I really don't want what I've posted to a private list to be publicly searchable. And I'm guessing that anyone can search anywhere within mail- archive, yes? If that's the case, then I may have to reconsider posting here. Sadly... This message contains confidential information intended only for the use of the addressee(s). If you are not the addressee, or the person responsible for delivering it to the addressee, you are hereby notified that reading, disseminating, distributing, copying, electronic storing or the taking of any action in reliance on the contents of this message is strictly prohibited. If you have received this message by mistake, please notify us, by replying to the sender, and delete the original message immediately thereafter. Thank you. __ Author Help files and create printed documentation with Doc-To-Help. New release adds Team Authoring Support, enhanced Web-based help technology and PDF output. Learn more at www.doctohelp.com/tcp. Interactive 3D Documentation Parts catalogs, animated instructions, and more. www.i3deverywhere.com ___ Technical Communication Professionals Post a message to the list: email [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscribe, unsubscribe, archives, account options, list info: http://techcommpros.com/mailman/listinfo/tcp_techcommpros.com Subscribe (email): send a blank message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe (email): send a blank message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Need help? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] Get the TCP whole experience! http://www.techcommpros.com __ Author Help files and create printed documentation with Doc-To-Help. New release adds Team Authoring Support, enhanced Web-based help technology and PDF output. Learn more at www.doctohelp.com/tcp. Interactive 3D Documentation Parts catalogs, animated instructions, and more. www.i3deverywhere.com ___ Technical Communication Professionals Post a message to the list: email [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscribe, unsubscribe, archives, account options, list info: http://techcommpros.com/mailman/listinfo/tcp_techcommpros.com Subscribe (email): send a blank message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe (email): send a blank message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Need help? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] Get the TCP whole experience! http://www.techcommpros.com
[TCP] ADMIN Re: Postings on TCP are being archived by another service
Hi everyone, The archive in question is not new; I set it up at the same time as I set up the TCP email list, last October. The reason I did it was as a service to members and non-members alike, so that they can search the archives of the list and find answers to questions. A closed archive would turn people away; an open archive draws them in, increases our membership, and provides more collective wisdom from which people can get help. If spam is a concern, you might consider using a different email address for email lists than you use for your regular email communication. Personally, I have not seen any increase in spam, and I have not heard anyone else say they have, either. Regarding having what you say available outside of the membership of the list, I've always maintained that you shouldn't say anything in email (on a list or otherwise) that you wouldn't want to see published in the newspaper. If you have a situation to discuss that you don't want your name associated with, like asking for suggestions how to deal with an unreasonable boss, whether or not you're being underpaid and should ask for a raise, how to work with an difficult co-worker, when to give it up and look for a different job, etc., posts can be made anonymously. The TCP list information page (http://techcommpros.com/mailman/listinfo/tcp_techcommpros.com) has a link to the archive. I will change the Welcome message so that when people join the list, they know the archives are public. Rhonda and Sue, and anyone else sharing their concerns, I sincerely hope you will continue to post! If there are any other questions, please let me know. Warm regards, Lisa Gielczyk TCP Administrator __ Author Help files and create printed documentation with Doc-To-Help. New release adds Team Authoring Support, enhanced Web-based help technology and PDF output. Learn more at www.doctohelp.com/tcp. Interactive 3D Documentation Parts catalogs, animated instructions, and more. www.i3deverywhere.com ___ Technical Communication Professionals Post a message to the list: email [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscribe, unsubscribe, archives, account options, list info: http://techcommpros.com/mailman/listinfo/tcp_techcommpros.com Subscribe (email): send a blank message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe (email): send a blank message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Need help? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] Get the TCP whole experience! http://www.techcommpros.com
Re: [TCP] Postings on TCP are being archived by another service
This is probably a really good idea. On another list I was on, one member's disagreement turned into a fracas, and things were said that should not have been associated with anyone's name (although very politely and masked). --- Seb [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Sue, You may want to consider setting up another email address specifically for mailing lists. That way, you can still participate in discussions while preserving your anonymity. I do this myself so that my name won't show up in web searches. http://technical-writing.dionysius.com/ technical writing | consulting | development Catch up on fall's hot new shows on Yahoo! TV. Watch previews, get listings, and more! http://tv.yahoo.com/collections/3658 __ Author Help files and create printed documentation with Doc-To-Help. New release adds Team Authoring Support, enhanced Web-based help technology and PDF output. Learn more at www.doctohelp.com/tcp. Interactive 3D Documentation Parts catalogs, animated instructions, and more. www.i3deverywhere.com ___ Technical Communication Professionals Post a message to the list: email [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscribe, unsubscribe, archives, account options, list info: http://techcommpros.com/mailman/listinfo/tcp_techcommpros.com Subscribe (email): send a blank message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe (email): send a blank message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Need help? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] Get the TCP whole experience! http://www.techcommpros.com
Re: [TCP] ADMIN Re: Postings on TCP are being archived by anotherservice
Hi all I don't have a problem with an archiving service, and my email address is out on the web often enough that I'm not concerned about that either (though others may be concerned about their email addresses being fairly easily harvested). I was only asking if this archive site was officially sanctioned by TCP or not, remembering HATT's issue earlier this year. It is, so that's enough for me! Thanks for your explanation, Lisa. Rhonda Rhonda Bracey [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.cybertext.com.au AuthorIT Certified Consultant -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Lisa Gielczyk (TCP ADMIN) Sent: Wednesday, 17 October 2007 2:15 AM To: email Subject: [TCP] ADMIN Re: Postings on TCP are being archived by anotherservice Hi everyone, The archive in question is not new; I set it up at the same time as I set up the TCP email list, last October. The reason I did it was as a service to members and non-members alike, so that they can search the archives of the list and find answers to questions. A closed archive would turn people away; an open archive draws them in, increases our membership, and provides more collective wisdom from which people can get help. If spam is a concern, you might consider using a different email address for email lists than you use for your regular email communication. Personally, I have not seen any increase in spam, and I have not heard anyone else say they have, either. Regarding having what you say available outside of the membership of the list, I've always maintained that you shouldn't say anything in email (on a list or otherwise) that you wouldn't want to see published in the newspaper. If you have a situation to discuss that you don't want your name associated with, like asking for suggestions how to deal with an unreasonable boss, whether or not you're being underpaid and should ask for a raise, how to work with an difficult co-worker, when to give it up and look for a different job, etc., posts can be made anonymously. The TCP list information page (http://techcommpros.com/mailman/listinfo/tcp_techcommpros.com) has a link to the archive. I will change the Welcome message so that when people join the list, they know the archives are public. Rhonda and Sue, and anyone else sharing their concerns, I sincerely hope you will continue to post! If there are any other questions, please let me know. Warm regards, Lisa Gielczyk TCP Administrator __ Author Help files and create printed documentation with Doc-To-Help. New release adds Team Authoring Support, enhanced Web-based help technology and PDF output. Learn more at www.doctohelp.com/tcp. Interactive 3D Documentation Parts catalogs, animated instructions, and more. www.i3deverywhere.com ___ Technical Communication Professionals Post a message to the list: email [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscribe, unsubscribe, archives, account options, list info: http://techcommpros.com/mailman/listinfo/tcp_techcommpros.com Subscribe (email): send a blank message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe (email): send a blank message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Need help? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] Get the TCP whole experience! http://www.techcommpros.com
