[TCP] ADMIN In Search of Reviews, Blogs, and More
Hello, As I continue to prepare the new TCP site in Drupal, I'd like to test the site and its features and fill the site with content prior to its launch. I'm looking for people willing to share a tech comm review, start a tech comm blog, or provide other content for the site. If you're interested in helping out, please write to me offlist and I'll send you the URL. Hope your week is going well! Warm regards, Lisa Gielczyk TCP Admin __ Author Help files and create printed documentation with Doc-To-Help. New release adds Team Authoring Support, enhanced Web-based help technology and PDF output. Learn more at www.doctohelp.com/tcp. Interactive 3D Documentation Parts catalogs, animated instructions, and more. www.i3deverywhere.com ___ Technical Communication Professionals Post a message to the list: email [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscribe, unsubscribe, archives, account options, list info: http://techcommpros.com/mailman/listinfo/tcp_techcommpros.com Subscribe (email): send a blank message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe (email): send a blank message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Need help? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] Get the TCP whole experience! http://www.techcommpros.com
[TCP] Job posting for Knoxville
Hello All, We are hiring a second technical writer. I am forwarding the official company posting. If anyone has any questions, contact me offline at [EMAIL PROTECTED] Jewelry Television is currently seeking a Staff Technical Writer JOB SUMMARY: This Staff Technical Writer position exists solely to build world class technology documentation that represents the best, most innovative, most advanced solutions in our industry. The end result is quality software documentation which gives Jewelry Television both a strategic and tactical advantage in the market place to achieve all future goals. RESPONSIBILITIES * Problem Solving o Will analyze project areas, define problem descriptions, and develop novel solutions via solid technical and business functional requirements o A wide degree of creativity and latitude is utilized and expected. * Size and Scope of work o Major product features or enhancements of high complexity to new or existing products with multiple interfaces to other products, generally less than 3 months in duration. * Level of direct supervision o Works with little supervision, relying on experience and judgment to plan and accomplish technical writing tasks within a project cycle o Interpretation of business problems and solutions are not routinely reviewed during the course of a project o Responsible for communications with all stakeholders for projects including representatives and executive level managers * Internal Interactions o Regular contact with Software Engineers, Product Owners, and Stakeholders as needed o Ability to easily communicate functional details and content and layout specifications with senior management when appropriate o Provide beginning to end project management and facilitation * Technical Influence o Reads journals/papers and makes changes relevant to technical writing process enhancements or techniques based on current information o Individual can lead/teach others the critical lifecycle steps and methods needed to release a technical writing product o Makes informed decisions on content and format of technical writing products. * Technical expertise o Extremely proficient in the disciplines of Technical Writing o Expected to produce high-quality solutions independently. * Planning and Goal Setting o Sets project-level goals o Begins to suggest and anticipate future product features o Responds to defects reported by customers and plans appropriate course of action o Will to schedule projects through one release cycle QUALIFICATIONS * High School Diploma or equivalent, Bachelors degree preferred * Minimum of 6 months Technical Writing experience * Knowledgeable of commonly used concepts, practices, and procedures within the Technical writing disciplines * Must have strong interpersonal skills If you are interested in this position Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fax: (865) 692-1346 www.jtv.com/about Katie Roberts Technical Writer Jewelry Television IT Software Engineering Product Management 10001 Kingston Pike Knoxville, TN 37922 865.692.2715 [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Frank Palinkas Sent: Thursday, November 22, 2007 1:35 AM To: Dick Margulis; Cardimon, Craig; tcp@techcommpros.com Subject: Re: [TCP] Telecommuting has mostly positive consequences Another recent article sourced from CodeProject: http://www.techworld.com/news/index.cfm?NewsID=10724 Kind regards, Frank -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Dick Margulis Sent: Wednesday, 21 November, 2007 19:45 PM To: Cardimon, Craig; Subject: Re: [TCP] Telecommuting has mostly positive consequences Cardimon, Craig wrote: >> > The inquisitive part of me really wants to know why. > > If he has an MBA, the reason is clear enough. It's part of the > education. If you can't see them working, you can't trust them to be > working. Management vs. Employees. > For the other recently released study... http://www.theonion.com/content/news/study_finds_working_at_work __ Author Help files and create printed documentation with Doc-To-Help. New release adds Team Authoring Support, enhanced Web-based help technology and PDF output. Learn more at www.doctohelp.com/tcp. Interactive 3D Documentation Parts catalogs, animated instructions, and more. www.i3deverywhere.com ___ Technical Communication Professionals Post a message to the list: email [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscribe, unsubscribe, archives, account options, list info: http://techcommpros.com/mailman/listinfo/tcp_techcommpros.com Subscribe (email): send a blank message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe (email): send a blank message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Need help?
[TCP] Personality types at work (was: Telecommuting has mostly positive consequences
The salient point that I got from your post is that you are "a bit of an extrovert". In the context of relationships, pretty much all else that you said flows from that. If the other writer is a bit of an introvert and techy geek, then it probably doesn't even occur to her to come out on some imposed schedule (it would be imposed, not natural to her) and engage in uncomfortable banter about topics that she never thinks about _except_ when somebody else is trying to banter (sports, other people's babies, other people's pets, other people's vacation trips, gossip). I'm not the most outgoing, but I greet people and engage in small talk, etc. However, I just wander away when the local clique turns the conversation to video games (I never play 'em, and couldn't tell a PSP from a Nintendo whatever without looking at a label) or to comparative collections of obscure old B (or C) movies bought and sold on eBay. Sports? Uh you tell me a team name, and I probably once new what sport it attached to, and maybe even what city, but I've since forgotten. Nor can I make myself care. People who are farther down the introvert or geek scale than I am, are basically doomed, socially... :-) If the sincere-glad-hand gene is necessary for remote working, then they are also doomed to never be allowed to work away from the office. Also, you're going to have to forgive me, but whether you know it or not, the phrase " or the one who is in the office rarely but who makes an effort to befriend people" seems disingenuous or oblivious. YOU do not "make an effort". By definition, as a self-described "extrovert", you do not "make an effort" to be outgoing. Rather, you engage in behavior that is natural to you and in the mode for which you are psychologically constructed. It's like talking about the "effort" to sing. If you have natural musical ability and good pitch, you just burst into song with no prompting. The difficulty might be getting you to stop... :-) The only training or practice you'll ever need will be for fine-tuning, or to bring you to an elite competitive level. If you lack those attributes, well ... it shouldn't need explaining that monumental effort and ongoing self-denial is involved to get a far lesser result than the 'natural' achieves with neither effort nor training. I submit that behaving in an unsocial manner (I'm not prepared to call it anti-social) such as your other writer does, would be unnatural to you and would require some mental effort from you, and would still not be anywhere near as much of a stretch for you as coming the other way would be for her. That's because one stretch involves overt, unfamiliar activity, the success of which depends entirely on its naturalness as perceived by proficient (natural) practitioners, while the other stretch involves inactivity or refraining from an activity, and can be self-assessed. In other words, someone with good (if not perfect) pitch is criticizing someone who has a tin ear, for having that tin ear. The time to do that is when she sings gratingly, not when she refrains from singing. Kevin "Once you learn to fake sincerity, you've got it made." or "Never let them see you sweat." > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > On Behalf Of Sue Heim > Sent: Monday, November 26, 2007 11:57 > To: Jones, Donna > Cc: tcp@techcommpros.com > Subject: Re: [TCP] Telecommuting has mostly positive consequences > > No, it's actually go more to do with making an effort. As I said, I'm > *mostly* 100% remote. That means that I do go up to our Bay Area office > now > and again. Lately, more now than again, but on average once every month or > so. > > I'm a bit of an extrovert, and people respond to that. When I show up in > the > office, people wander by to say hi and talk to me. They know I live in San > Diego, many of them are coming for a visit or have been here or have > relatives who live here. So they seek me out. > > I also make a point to make the rounds or stop and say hi when I wander by > someone's office. > > I'm friendly. People like that. One of the other writers? She sits behind > her closed office door all day. > > So, who do YOU think has a better relationship? The writer who is > physically > in the office every day but hides behind closed doors, or the one who is > in > the office rarely but who makes an effort to befriend people? The information contained in this electronic mail transmission may be privileged and confidential, and therefore, protected from disclosure. If you have received this communication in error, please notify us immediately by replying to this message and deleting it from your computer without copying or disclosing it. __ Author Help files and create printed documentation with Doc-To-Help. New release adds Team Authoring Support, enhanced Web-based help technology and PDF output. Le
Re: [TCP] Job posting for Knoxville
The posting sounded interesting, but I wondered how one became "extremely proficient..." with six months experience on top of a high-school diploma. Six _years_ I could see... Also, if someone is expected to produce "high quality solutions" independently (not an unreasonable requirement of a senior or (at least) journeyman techwriter), is "high quality solution" defined? That is, is there a standard against which the new writer's output is to be judged? Not that I'm applying for the job, but I'd want to get that point negotiated and nailed down solidly if I was. Kevin (remote from Knoxville) The information contained in this electronic mail transmission may be privileged and confidential, and therefore, protected from disclosure. If you have received this communication in error, please notify us immediately by replying to this message and deleting it from your computer without copying or disclosing it. __ Author Help files and create printed documentation with Doc-To-Help. New release adds Team Authoring Support, enhanced Web-based help technology and PDF output. Learn more at www.doctohelp.com/tcp. Interactive 3D Documentation Parts catalogs, animated instructions, and more. www.i3deverywhere.com ___ Technical Communication Professionals Post a message to the list: email [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscribe, unsubscribe, archives, account options, list info: http://techcommpros.com/mailman/listinfo/tcp_techcommpros.com Subscribe (email): send a blank message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe (email): send a blank message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Need help? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] Get the TCP whole experience! http://www.techcommpros.com
Re: [TCP] Personality types at work (was: Telecommuting has mostlypositive consequences
And from all of this comes another piece of the "Tech Writer 2.0" puzzle. We need to be more extrovertible... edly... ish?? You can pull a few tricks to help if, like many, you aren't naturally inclined this way. I wonder if the average personality type is attracted to Tech Writing because it matches their social outlook to a degree? Perhaps that's why the "hands on keyboard" thinking still exists, because many of us are unable to sell ourselves well, we just don't have the personality for it. On the flip side, I work at home one day every couple of weeks. Largely to get things done, which is largely because I am fairly outgoing and spend a lot of my day talking to people, helping with issues and whatnot. I need that time to break away from that and be a quiet little word monkey now and then. Gordon --- www.onemanwrites.co.uk -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of McLauchlan, Kevin Sent: 27 November 2007 16:27 To: Sue Heim; Jones, Donna Cc: tcp@techcommpros.com Subject: [TCP] Personality types at work (was: Telecommuting has mostlypositive consequences The salient point that I got from your post is that you are "a bit of an extrovert". In the context of relationships, pretty much all else that you said flows from that. If the other writer is a bit of an introvert and techy geek, then it probably doesn't even occur to her to come out on some imposed schedule (it would be imposed, not natural to her) and engage in uncomfortable banter about topics that she never thinks about _except_ when somebody else is trying to banter (sports, other people's babies, other people's pets, other people's vacation trips, gossip). I'm not the most outgoing, but I greet people and engage in small talk, etc. However, I just wander away when the local clique turns the conversation to video games (I never play 'em, and couldn't tell a PSP from a Nintendo whatever without looking at a label) or to comparative collections of obscure old B (or C) movies bought and sold on eBay. Sports? Uh you tell me a team name, and I probably once new what sport it attached to, and maybe even what city, but I've since forgotten. Nor can I make myself care. People who are farther down the introvert or geek scale than I am, are basically doomed, socially... :-) If the sincere-glad-hand gene is necessary for remote working, then they are also doomed to never be allowed to work away from the office. Also, you're going to have to forgive me, but whether you know it or not, the phrase " or the one who is in the office rarely but who makes an effort to befriend people" seems disingenuous or oblivious. YOU do not "make an effort". By definition, as a self-described "extrovert", you do not "make an effort" to be outgoing. Rather, you engage in behavior that is natural to you and in the mode for which you are psychologically constructed. It's like talking about the "effort" to sing. If you have natural musical ability and good pitch, you just burst into song with no prompting. The difficulty might be getting you to stop... :-) The only training or practice you'll ever need will be for fine-tuning, or to bring you to an elite competitive level. If you lack those attributes, well ... it shouldn't need explaining that monumental effort and ongoing self-denial is involved to get a far lesser result than the 'natural' achieves with neither effort nor training. I submit that behaving in an unsocial manner (I'm not prepared to call it anti-social) such as your other writer does, would be unnatural to you and would require some mental effort from you, and would still not be anywhere near as much of a stretch for you as coming the other way would be for her. That's because one stretch involves overt, unfamiliar activity, the success of which depends entirely on its naturalness as perceived by proficient (natural) practitioners, while the other stretch involves inactivity or refraining from an activity, and can be self-assessed. In other words, someone with good (if not perfect) pitch is criticizing someone who has a tin ear, for having that tin ear. The time to do that is when she sings gratingly, not when she refrains from singing. Kevin "Once you learn to fake sincerity, you've got it made." or "Never let them see you sweat." > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > On Behalf Of Sue Heim > Sent: Monday, November 26, 2007 11:57 > To: Jones, Donna > Cc: tcp@techcommpros.com > Subject: Re: [TCP] Telecommuting has mostly positive consequences > > No, it's actually go more to do with making an effort. As I said, I'm > *mostly* 100% remote. That means that I do go up to our Bay Area office > now > and again. Lately, more now than again, but on average once every month or > so. > > I'm a bit of an extrovert, and people respond to that. When I show up in > the > office, people wander by to say hi and talk to me. They know I live in San > Diego, many
Re: [TCP] Personality types at work (was: Telecommuting has mostly positive consequences
My original post on the subject wasn't focusing on the personalities of the tech writers, but on those who we come in contact with. There are some abrasive SMEs who are best taken in small doses. Passing them in the hallway doesn't do much other than give them another occasion to snub you. Working remotely with these people is a blessing because you don't need to deal with them any more than you absolutely have to. Personality types can mesh, or they can clash. I tend to be extroverted and outspoken, and I usually dislike people who are too much like me. They're annoying! (And I'm not?) :-) Has anyone out in TCP land ever taken the Myers-Briggs Type Indicator test? I've taken it a couple of times, and it's surprisingly accurate in how it labels me. My type is ESTP, but I am also comfortable functioning as an ESTJ or ENTP. My scores on N versus S and P versus J were fairly close, indicating that I don't have a strong preference for one over the other. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ESTP http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ESTJ http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ENTP I'm a fairly decent tech writer in large part because of my personality type. I like hands-on work, and I'm good at problem solving. I would much rather *do* something by jumping into the task than spending a lot of time planning *how* to do it. Donna - CONFIDENTIAL- This email and any files transmitted with it are confidential, and may also be legally privileged. If you are not the intended recipient, you may not review, use, copy, or distribute this message. If you receive this email in error, please notify the sender immediately by reply email and then delete this email. __ Author Help files and create printed documentation with Doc-To-Help. New release adds Team Authoring Support, enhanced Web-based help technology and PDF output. Learn more at www.doctohelp.com/tcp. Interactive 3D Documentation Parts catalogs, animated instructions, and more. www.i3deverywhere.com ___ Technical Communication Professionals Post a message to the list: email [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscribe, unsubscribe, archives, account options, list info: http://techcommpros.com/mailman/listinfo/tcp_techcommpros.com Subscribe (email): send a blank message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe (email): send a blank message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Need help? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] Get the TCP whole experience! http://www.techcommpros.com
Re: [TCP] Personality types at work (was: Telecommuting has mostly positive consequences
Actually, you missed my point (and my "a bit of an extrovert" is actually, I'm an introvert but I work at being extroverted)... My personality type has nothing to do with how I work with people in the office. When I am in the office I make a point to walk around and say hello to people. I also make a point to respond to people (when I'm home) as quickly as possible. Working relationships are two-way streets and you have to cultivate the relationships and nurture them. That other writer? She's not shy, she just really doesn't make an effort. She, apparently, has never realized the value of befriending those you work with (although "befriend" is probably the wrong word). There are other things I do, to ensure that they like me, they really like me! For example, the QA folks were very helpful to me when I first started, and they continue to help me when I have a question (just as I help them). These are people who I really appreciate, and I just sent off a batch of homemade cookies to them with a note stating exactly that. My personality type has nothing to do with the success of my working remotely. The fact that I work at being visible even when I'm not physically there, and work at maintaining relationships when I am, does. ...sue On 11/27/07, McLauchlan, Kevin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > The salient point that I got from your post is that you are > "a bit of an extrovert". > In the context of relationships, pretty much all else > that you said flows from that. > > If the other writer is a bit of an introvert and techy geek, > then it probably doesn't even occur to her to come out on > some imposed schedule (it would be imposed, not natural > to her) and engage in uncomfortable banter about topics > that she never thinks about _except_ when somebody else > is trying to banter (sports, other people's babies, other > people's pets, other people's vacation trips, gossip). > __ Author Help files and create printed documentation with Doc-To-Help. New release adds Team Authoring Support, enhanced Web-based help technology and PDF output. Learn more at www.doctohelp.com/tcp. Interactive 3D Documentation Parts catalogs, animated instructions, and more. www.i3deverywhere.com ___ Technical Communication Professionals Post a message to the list: email [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscribe, unsubscribe, archives, account options, list info: http://techcommpros.com/mailman/listinfo/tcp_techcommpros.com Subscribe (email): send a blank message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe (email): send a blank message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Need help? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] Get the TCP whole experience! http://www.techcommpros.com
Re: [TCP] Personality types at work
Donna asked, " Has anyone out in TCP land ever taken the Myers-Briggs Type Indicator test?" Check out Malcolm Gladwell's article explaining the origins of the Myers-Briggs Type Indicator. http://www.gladwell.com/2004/2004_09_20_a_personality.html A long read, but well worth it. Holly Harkness www.DontCallMeTina.com __ Author Help files and create printed documentation with Doc-To-Help. New release adds Team Authoring Support, enhanced Web-based help technology and PDF output. Learn more at www.doctohelp.com/tcp. Interactive 3D Documentation Parts catalogs, animated instructions, and more. www.i3deverywhere.com ___ Technical Communication Professionals Post a message to the list: email [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscribe, unsubscribe, archives, account options, list info: http://techcommpros.com/mailman/listinfo/tcp_techcommpros.com Subscribe (email): send a blank message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe (email): send a blank message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Need help? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] Get the TCP whole experience! http://www.techcommpros.com
Re: [TCP] Personality types at work
I've taken a slew of these types of personality tests (Myers-Briggs included). They're all fairly accurate, but all are worthless unless the company discloses the results with the employee, knows how to analyze the results, and knows how to act on them. On Nov 27, 2007 12:46 PM, Harkness, Holly <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Donna asked, " Has anyone out in TCP land ever taken the Myers-Briggs > Type Indicator > test?" > > > Check out Malcolm Gladwell's article explaining the origins of the > Myers-Briggs Type Indicator. > > http://www.gladwell.com/2004/2004_09_20_a_personality.html > > A long read, but well worth it. -- Bill Swallow HATT List Owner WWP-Users List Owner Senior Member STC, TechValley Chapter STC Single-Sourcing SIG Manager http://techcommdood.blogspot.com __ Author Help files and create printed documentation with Doc-To-Help. New release adds Team Authoring Support, enhanced Web-based help technology and PDF output. Learn more at www.doctohelp.com/tcp. Interactive 3D Documentation Parts catalogs, animated instructions, and more. www.i3deverywhere.com ___ Technical Communication Professionals Post a message to the list: email [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscribe, unsubscribe, archives, account options, list info: http://techcommpros.com/mailman/listinfo/tcp_techcommpros.com Subscribe (email): send a blank message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe (email): send a blank message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Need help? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] Get the TCP whole experience! http://www.techcommpros.com
Re: [TCP] Personality types at work (was: Telecommuting has mostly positive consequences
Introverted people are not necessarily shy. (Many are) Shyness implies a self-centered nature without the confidence that makes it either OK or obnoxious. "What will 'they' think of me?" never considers that 'they' either barely notice, or soon forget, the social gaffe that looms large for the shy one. On the third hand, social gaffes by an awkward person tend to loom larger for others if only in the sense that the gaffes form a much larger relative subset of the interactions that anyone can recall with that person. Jimmy managed twenty-two social faux-pas last week, among twenty-two hundred social interactions. Francine blundered through five potentially embarrassing missteps among a total of twelve interactions. Which one's cringe-worthy moments will be most likely recalled by third parties? As often as not, social forwardness comes from _lack_ of self-awareness or at least very shallow insight in that respect, but social confidence can also arise from fairly profound self-understanding that has led to unshakeable self-acceptance. The shy people literally "shy" away from social situations. But some other introverted people just have little awareness of that whole dimension. They're not sitting on the sidelines anxiously hoping not to miss the must-be-perfect opportunity to step forward and shine (and simultaneously afraid of how they will blow it). They haven't even realized that there _are_ sidelines. A certain subset of introverted people just simply doesn't "get" most of that socializing stuff. Or they have a limited store of it and they bring it out (more likely that's when it naturally-for-them comes out on its own) with their friends or in relaxed social situations of shared interest. The office might be simply what they do to pay for what actually interests them in "real life". SOME introverted people think about, analyze, social interactions just as others might tease and poke at engineering-like problems and observations, but other introverted people don't even see the social mechanisms as... well... mechanisms. Hmm. I wonder what Ludwig von Mises would do with this conversation well, nothing now... he's been dead for years... but... :-) The next step, if there is a next step for this conversation, would be relating it to work, as it affects getting tech-comms stuff done. Or maybe as it relates to getting approved for telework. Maybe, for example, your nature allows you to more readily deal with "natural" barriers to getting such approval. But maybe, for example, your nature steered you toward employment at a company where the conditions were already pretty much in place, where a more introverted person might not have known what to look for during the interviews (if they even knew there _was_ something to look for). If the "tone-deaf" thing didn't work for you, think of social awareness and eptitude as full-color vision compared to any of various forms of color-blindness. I've known a few color-blind people who got to be adults before they even clued in that there exist more colors than they can see and that yes, those two objects are different colors. I think there's a good analogy there. KM Birds see more colors than you do. From: Sue Heim [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, November 27, 2007 12:44 To: McLauchlan, Kevin Cc: Jones, Donna; tcp@techcommpros.com Subject: Re: Personality types at work (was: Telecommuting has mostly positive consequences Actually, you missed my point (and my "a bit of an extrovert" is actually, I'm an introvert but I work at being extroverted)... My personality type has nothing to do with how I work with people in the office. When I am in the office I make a point to walk around and say hello to people. I also make a point to respond to people (when I'm home) as quickly as possible. Working relationships are two-way streets and you have to cultivate the relationships and nurture them. That other writer? She's not shy, she just really doesn't make an effort. She, apparently, has never realized the value of befriending those you work with (although "befriend" is probably the wrong word). There are other things I do, to ensure that they like me, they really like me! For example, the QA folks were very helpful to me when I first started, and they continue to help me when I have a question (just as I help them). These are people who I really appreciate, and I just sent off a batch of homemade cookies to them with a note stating exactly that. My personality type has nothing to do with the success of my working remotely. The fact that I work at being visible even when I'm not physically there, and work at maintaining relationships when I am, does. ...sue On 11/27/07, McLauchlan, Kevin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: The salient point that I got from your post is that you are "a bit of an extrovert". In the context of relationships, pretty much all else tha
Re: [TCP] Personality types at work
You also don't want them using your results against you, which I've encountered a couple of times. While the tests themselves may be valid, an interpretation of the results by the untrained can negate the whole process. Bill Swallow wrote: > I've taken a slew of these types of personality tests (Myers-Briggs > included). They're all fairly accurate, but all are worthless unless > the company discloses the results with the employee, knows how to > analyze the results, and knows how to act on them. > > On Nov 27, 2007 12:46 PM, Harkness, Holly <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> Donna asked, " Has anyone out in TCP land ever taken the Myers-Briggs >> Type Indicator test?" >> -- Beth Agnew Catch the Buzz: http://bethbuzz.blogspot.com STC Presentation archived at: http://www.301url.com/podcasting Professor, Technical Communication Seneca College of Applied Arts & Technology Toronto, ON 416.491.5050 x3133 http://www.tinyurl.com/83u5u __ Author Help files and create printed documentation with Doc-To-Help. New release adds Team Authoring Support, enhanced Web-based help technology and PDF output. Learn more at www.doctohelp.com/tcp. Interactive 3D Documentation Parts catalogs, animated instructions, and more. www.i3deverywhere.com ___ Technical Communication Professionals Post a message to the list: email [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscribe, unsubscribe, archives, account options, list info: http://techcommpros.com/mailman/listinfo/tcp_techcommpros.com Subscribe (email): send a blank message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe (email): send a blank message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Need help? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] Get the TCP whole experience! http://www.techcommpros.com
Re: [TCP] Personality types at work
Hi Bill, Did you read Gladwell's article? "According to some studies, more than half of those who take the [Myers-Briggs] test a second time end up with a different score than when they took it the first time." I certainly hope your company wouldn't "act on" something so unreliable. -- Dan > -Original Message- > From: Bill Swallow > Sent: Tuesday, November 27, 2007 1:22 PM > To: Harkness, Holly > Cc: tcp@techcommpros.com > Subject: Re: [TCP] Personality types at work > > I've taken a slew of these types of personality > tests (Myers-Briggs included). They're all fairly > accurate, but all are worthless unless the company > discloses the results with the employee, knows how > to analyze the results, and knows how to act on > them. > > On Nov 27, 2007 12:46 PM, Harkness, Holly wrote: > > > > Check out Malcolm Gladwell's article explaining > > the origins of the Myers-Briggs Type Indicator. > > http://www.gladwell.com/2004/2004_09_20_a_personality.html > > This message contains confidential information intended only for the use of the addressee(s). If you are not the addressee, or the person responsible for delivering it to the addressee, you are hereby notified that reading, disseminating, distributing, copying, electronic storing or the taking of any action in reliance on the contents of this message is strictly prohibited. If you have received this message by mistake, please notify us, by replying to the sender, and delete the original message immediately thereafter. Thank you. __ Author Help files and create printed documentation with Doc-To-Help. New release adds Team Authoring Support, enhanced Web-based help technology and PDF output. Learn more at www.doctohelp.com/tcp. Interactive 3D Documentation Parts catalogs, animated instructions, and more. www.i3deverywhere.com ___ Technical Communication Professionals Post a message to the list: email [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscribe, unsubscribe, archives, account options, list info: http://techcommpros.com/mailman/listinfo/tcp_techcommpros.com Subscribe (email): send a blank message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe (email): send a blank message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Need help? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] Get the TCP whole experience! http://www.techcommpros.com
Re: [TCP] Personality types at work (was: Telecommuting has mostly positive consequences
Actually, this company recruited me. And they hired me knowing there wasn't a snowball's chance that I would relocate. So my employment was predicated on my working remotely. If they wanted me, that was something they had to deal with, and they did. ...sue On 11/27/07, McLauchlan, Kevin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > But maybe, for example, your nature steered you toward employment at a > company where the conditions were already pretty much in place, where a more > introverted person might not have known what to look for during the > interviews (if they even knew there _*was*_ something to look for). > > > __ Author Help files and create printed documentation with Doc-To-Help. New release adds Team Authoring Support, enhanced Web-based help technology and PDF output. Learn more at www.doctohelp.com/tcp. Interactive 3D Documentation Parts catalogs, animated instructions, and more. www.i3deverywhere.com ___ Technical Communication Professionals Post a message to the list: email [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscribe, unsubscribe, archives, account options, list info: http://techcommpros.com/mailman/listinfo/tcp_techcommpros.com Subscribe (email): send a blank message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe (email): send a blank message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Need help? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] Get the TCP whole experience! http://www.techcommpros.com
Re: [TCP] Personality types at work (was: Telecommuting has mostly positive consequences
In technology, I know many are introverted by choice, since they don't see much benefit in socialization. I've always preferred the definition of introvert that means "guided by internal principle" as opposed to "stays away from social situations." There's overlap, for sure, but also many cases of people who will socialize if they see the need but they rarely do. --- "McLauchlan, Kevin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > But some other introverted people just have little awareness of that > whole dimension. http://technical-writing.dionysius.com/ technical writing | consulting | development Never miss a thing. Make Yahoo your home page. http://www.yahoo.com/r/hs __ Author Help files and create printed documentation with Doc-To-Help. New release adds Team Authoring Support, enhanced Web-based help technology and PDF output. Learn more at www.doctohelp.com/tcp. Interactive 3D Documentation Parts catalogs, animated instructions, and more. www.i3deverywhere.com ___ Technical Communication Professionals Post a message to the list: email [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscribe, unsubscribe, archives, account options, list info: http://techcommpros.com/mailman/listinfo/tcp_techcommpros.com Subscribe (email): send a blank message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe (email): send a blank message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Need help? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] Get the TCP whole experience! http://www.techcommpros.com
Re: [TCP] Personality types at work (was: Telecommuting has mostly positive consequences
Cool! Introverted or extroverted, it's nice to be wanted, isn't it? :-) Kevin From: Sue Heim [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, November 27, 2007 14:10 To: McLauchlan, Kevin Cc: Jones, Donna; tcp@techcommpros.com Subject: Re: Personality types at work (was: Telecommuting has mostly positive consequences Actually, this company recruited me. And they hired me knowing there wasn't a snowball's chance that I would relocate. So my employment was predicated on my working remotely. If they wanted me, that was something they had to deal with, and they did. ...sue On 11/27/07, McLauchlan, Kevin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: But maybe, for example, your nature steered you toward employment at a company where the conditions were already pretty much in place, where a more introverted person might not have known what to look for during the interviews (if they even knew there _ was_ something to look for). The information contained in this electronic mail transmission may be privileged and confidential, and therefore, protected from disclosure. If you have received this communication in error, please notify us immediately by replying to this message and deleting it from your computer without copying or disclosing it. __ Author Help files and create printed documentation with Doc-To-Help. New release adds Team Authoring Support, enhanced Web-based help technology and PDF output. Learn more at www.doctohelp.com/tcp. Interactive 3D Documentation Parts catalogs, animated instructions, and more. www.i3deverywhere.com ___ Technical Communication Professionals Post a message to the list: email [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscribe, unsubscribe, archives, account options, list info: http://techcommpros.com/mailman/listinfo/tcp_techcommpros.com Subscribe (email): send a blank message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe (email): send a blank message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Need help? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] Get the TCP whole experience! http://www.techcommpros.com
Re: [TCP] Personality types at work (was: Telecommuting has mostly positive consequences
But that's the point. It's not so much choice as nature. You can choose to go against your nature, insofar as you are aware of that nature, but you can't really choose your nature. You can certainly affect it by means of strategies and practice, if you find yourself motivated to do so, but fundamental change to what you have the inherent equipment to see is not likely. To my mind, that's a different discussion than the one about context. Your ability to grasp things and think about them undergoes quantum changes when your context changes (usually meaning that it's been expanded), but I think the overall ability is still greatly informed by your underlying nature. And thank goodness, or we'd be far less likely to have different points of view. > -Original Message- > From: Chris Borokowski [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Tuesday, November 27, 2007 14:26 > In technology, I know many are introverted by choice, since they don't > see much benefit in socialization. I've always preferred the definition > of introvert that means "guided by internal principle" as opposed to > "stays away from social situations." There's overlap, for sure, but > also many cases of people who will socialize if they see the need but > they rarely do. The information contained in this electronic mail transmission may be privileged and confidential, and therefore, protected from disclosure. If you have received this communication in error, please notify us immediately by replying to this message and deleting it from your computer without copying or disclosing it. __ Author Help files and create printed documentation with Doc-To-Help. New release adds Team Authoring Support, enhanced Web-based help technology and PDF output. Learn more at www.doctohelp.com/tcp. Interactive 3D Documentation Parts catalogs, animated instructions, and more. www.i3deverywhere.com ___ Technical Communication Professionals Post a message to the list: email [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscribe, unsubscribe, archives, account options, list info: http://techcommpros.com/mailman/listinfo/tcp_techcommpros.com Subscribe (email): send a blank message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe (email): send a blank message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Need help? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] Get the TCP whole experience! http://www.techcommpros.com
Re: [TCP] Personality types at work
I dunno. I guess I'm in the other 50%, as my scores have been fairly consistent. By "act on" I mean know how to position the employee to succeed. And of course that doesn't mean position to fail. As with anything, there's a periodic review and realignment. Of golden hammers and all that jazz... Bill On Nov 27, 2007 1:55 PM, Dan Goldstein <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hi Bill, > > Did you read Gladwell's article? "According to some studies, more than > half of those who take the [Myers-Briggs] test a second time end up with > a different score than when they took it the first time." I certainly > hope your company wouldn't "act on" something so unreliable. -- Bill Swallow HATT List Owner WWP-Users List Owner Senior Member STC, TechValley Chapter STC Single-Sourcing SIG Manager http://techcommdood.blogspot.com __ Author Help files and create printed documentation with Doc-To-Help. New release adds Team Authoring Support, enhanced Web-based help technology and PDF output. Learn more at www.doctohelp.com/tcp. Interactive 3D Documentation Parts catalogs, animated instructions, and more. www.i3deverywhere.com ___ Technical Communication Professionals Post a message to the list: email [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscribe, unsubscribe, archives, account options, list info: http://techcommpros.com/mailman/listinfo/tcp_techcommpros.com Subscribe (email): send a blank message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe (email): send a blank message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Need help? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] Get the TCP whole experience! http://www.techcommpros.com
Re: [TCP] Personality types at work (was: Telecommuting has mostly positive consequences
I don't disagree. I think however that different people are introverted for different reasons. Use cases for the average office: * Phil, 31, developer, is an introvert because he considers conversation chatter and has no idea what it achieves. He socializes comfortably when discussing equipment. * Mary, 29, technical writer, is a survivalist, and is introverted because she has concluded that our society is in its final days and all but a few people are hopelessly deluded. * Treyshawn, 34, marketing, is introverted by nature. His favorite socialization consists of watching others and doing things for them to remind them he cares about them. * Susan, 48, marketing, is losing her hearing and as a result is introverted. When multiple people are talking, she is uncertain of what is being said, so she prefers not to engage in conversation. * Seung, 27, developer, is an accomplished mathematical genius who is introverted because he considers what most people are saying to be imbecilic babble. In addition to what you've mentioned, of course. --- "McLauchlan, Kevin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > But that's the point. It's not so much choice as nature. http://technical-writing.dionysius.com/ technical writing | consulting | development Get easy, one-click access to your favorites. Make Yahoo! your homepage. http://www.yahoo.com/r/hs __ Author Help files and create printed documentation with Doc-To-Help. New release adds Team Authoring Support, enhanced Web-based help technology and PDF output. Learn more at www.doctohelp.com/tcp. Interactive 3D Documentation Parts catalogs, animated instructions, and more. www.i3deverywhere.com ___ Technical Communication Professionals Post a message to the list: email [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscribe, unsubscribe, archives, account options, list info: http://techcommpros.com/mailman/listinfo/tcp_techcommpros.com Subscribe (email): send a blank message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe (email): send a blank message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Need help? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] Get the TCP whole experience! http://www.techcommpros.com
