Re: [teampractices] Use cases for work tracking, sub-projects, etc in Phabricator

2016-03-02 Thread Max Binder
The milestone columning feature, while something I can see providing value,
doesn't do much for my POs so far. However, there is some interest in
tagging tasks by feature category, as opposed to parenting under
sticky-epics, or using a column for each feature. Creating separate tags
(projects) for apps-specific tasks can make Phab messy overall if there are
a lot of them, but Milestones might solve this problem by essentially
existing as project-specific "tags."

On Wed, Mar 2, 2016 at 1:12 PM, Kevin Smith  wrote:

> Based on a quick hallway conversation with Joel, I came away feeling like
> sub-projects probably won't be useful to Discovery. I do still hope to
> experiment with them at some point, though.
>
> On the other hand, hearing that milestone tasks appear in as a column in
> the parent task's board is quite intriguing. I'll have to check with our
> POs to see if that would be useful.
>
> We are contemplating restructuring the Discovery projects and boards, so
> this is nice timing.
>
>
>
> Kevin Smith
> Agile Coach, Wikimedia Foundation
>
>
> On Wed, Mar 2, 2016 at 12:48 AM, Quim Gil  wrote:
>
>> Hi,
>>
>> On Tue, Mar 1, 2016 at 12:08 AM, Joel Aufrecht 
>> wrote:
>>>
>>> I'm trying to work out, on behalf of VE, exactly how we would want to
>>> use the new sub-project and milestone functionality.
>>>
>>
>> Community Liaisons and Developer Relations have a much simpler process,
>> but I still wonder whether we could improve it by using subprojects.
>>
>> We have team projects to tag any tasks related to our teams, i.e.
>> https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/project/view/27/
>>
>> Then, we organize what we call monthly sprints but is actually not a
>> "Sprint project" but a tag that we add to tasks that we plan to work on a
>> certain month, without a commitment to finish them, no story points, no
>> burndown. See for instance
>> https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/project/view/1649/
>>
>> In theory, these monthly sprints could be subprojects of our team
>> project, right? If I understood the subprojects feature correctly, this
>> would mean that
>>
>> * Tasks in a sprint (subproject) would not appear in the main project
>> (team) workboard, which would be useful to see the tasks that haven't been
>> scheduled yet.
>> * Tasks in one subproject (i.e. #Liaisons-March-2016) could still be
>> added to other subprojects as well (April, May, etc).
>>
>> Do you think this approach makes sense?
>>
>> --
>> Quim Gil
>> Engineering Community Manager @ Wikimedia Foundation
>> http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/User:Qgil
>>
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Re: [teampractices] Use cases for work tracking, sub-projects, etc in Phabricator

2016-03-02 Thread Kevin Smith
Based on a quick hallway conversation with Joel, I came away feeling like
sub-projects probably won't be useful to Discovery. I do still hope to
experiment with them at some point, though.

On the other hand, hearing that milestone tasks appear in as a column in
the parent task's board is quite intriguing. I'll have to check with our
POs to see if that would be useful.

We are contemplating restructuring the Discovery projects and boards, so
this is nice timing.



Kevin Smith
Agile Coach, Wikimedia Foundation


On Wed, Mar 2, 2016 at 12:48 AM, Quim Gil  wrote:

> Hi,
>
> On Tue, Mar 1, 2016 at 12:08 AM, Joel Aufrecht 
> wrote:
>>
>> I'm trying to work out, on behalf of VE, exactly how we would want to use
>> the new sub-project and milestone functionality.
>>
>
> Community Liaisons and Developer Relations have a much simpler process,
> but I still wonder whether we could improve it by using subprojects.
>
> We have team projects to tag any tasks related to our teams, i.e.
> https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/project/view/27/
>
> Then, we organize what we call monthly sprints but is actually not a
> "Sprint project" but a tag that we add to tasks that we plan to work on a
> certain month, without a commitment to finish them, no story points, no
> burndown. See for instance
> https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/project/view/1649/
>
> In theory, these monthly sprints could be subprojects of our team project,
> right? If I understood the subprojects feature correctly, this would mean
> that
>
> * Tasks in a sprint (subproject) would not appear in the main project
> (team) workboard, which would be useful to see the tasks that haven't been
> scheduled yet.
> * Tasks in one subproject (i.e. #Liaisons-March-2016) could still be added
> to other subprojects as well (April, May, etc).
>
> Do you think this approach makes sense?
>
> --
> Quim Gil
> Engineering Community Manager @ Wikimedia Foundation
> http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/User:Qgil
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Re: [teampractices] Use cases for work tracking, sub-projects, etc in Phabricator

2016-03-02 Thread Quim Gil
Hi,

On Tue, Mar 1, 2016 at 12:08 AM, Joel Aufrecht 
wrote:
>
> I'm trying to work out, on behalf of VE, exactly how we would want to use
> the new sub-project and milestone functionality.
>

Community Liaisons and Developer Relations have a much simpler process, but
I still wonder whether we could improve it by using subprojects.

We have team projects to tag any tasks related to our teams, i.e.
https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/project/view/27/

Then, we organize what we call monthly sprints but is actually not a
"Sprint project" but a tag that we add to tasks that we plan to work on a
certain month, without a commitment to finish them, no story points, no
burndown. See for instance
https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/project/view/1649/

In theory, these monthly sprints could be subprojects of our team project,
right? If I understood the subprojects feature correctly, this would mean
that

* Tasks in a sprint (subproject) would not appear in the main project
(team) workboard, which would be useful to see the tasks that haven't been
scheduled yet.
* Tasks in one subproject (i.e. #Liaisons-March-2016) could still be added
to other subprojects as well (April, May, etc).

Do you think this approach makes sense?

-- 
Quim Gil
Engineering Community Manager @ Wikimedia Foundation
http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/User:Qgil
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