Re: Titlebar text missing in shade mode

[Filipe Rosset]

Em 08-05-2011 23:33, Jason D. Clinton escreveu:
> On Sun, May 8, 2011 at 19:31, Richard England  > wrote:
>
> On 05/08/2011 05:22 PM, Richard England wrote:
>  > After discovering I needed "tweak tool" (gnome-tweak-tool*rpm) to
> make
>  > the window shade (aka shade mode) work I discovered that when a
> windows
>  > is "shaeded" the titlebar information disappears.  I use this
>  > extensively to move between several windows on a screen.
>  >
>  > Has any one else noticed that the title bar is blank in "shade" mode?
>  > Who/where/how do I report this?
>  >
>  > ~~R
>  >
> Forgot to include, if it matters, that this is in fallback mode. I've
> not got a test system, yet, that will support non-fallback mode.
>
>
> Fallback mode is Metacity, the same window manager that we've been
> using. The code changed very little during the 3.x cycle so if there's a
> new bug related to this the most likely culprit is the window theme.
>

Yeap, I tested it here and the problem happens with the Adwaita theme.
With Clearlooks it's works as expected.

I'm using the fallback mode too.

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Re: F15 TC1 dvd (from usb) installer failing : no network available

[He Rui]

On Sun, 2011-05-08 at 12:26 +0530, Pratyush Sahay wrote:
> Hello, 
> 
> Tried installing F15 TC1 from a USB DVD media, created using
> UNetBootin from F15-i386-dvd.iso image.
> The installer exits after the "Boot Loader OS list" step, the error
> being shown :
> 
> No Network Available.. some of the software repos require networking,
> but there
> was an error enabling the network on your system

It seemed that even if you used DVD.iso to create the bootable USB, the
USB still acted as a netinst.iso without a usable package repo. Did you
use UNetBootin on previous releases for DVD install? From its
website[1], I found that UNetBootin only supports Live CD and Net
install for USB, but no DVD. 

> Am behind our insti's ntlm proxy, so even pluging-in the ethernet
> cable didnt help..
> Screenshot link :
> http://goo.gl/DlwgA

Requiring the network is expected for a net install. As a workaround, if
you can't connect to internet during install, you can input 'askmethod'
as kernel parameter. When prompted, select Hard drive as your
installation source. Then select the disk partition that houses your DVD
iso image.  


Thanks,
Hurry

[1] http://unetbootin.sourceforge.net/


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Re: Titlebar text missing in shade mode

[Jason D. Clinton]

On Sun, May 8, 2011 at 19:31, Richard England wrote:

> On 05/08/2011 05:22 PM, Richard England wrote:
> > After discovering I needed "tweak tool" (gnome-tweak-tool*rpm) to make
> > the window shade (aka shade mode) work I discovered that when a windows
> > is "shaeded" the titlebar information disappears.  I use this
> > extensively to move between several windows on a screen.
> >
> > Has any one else noticed that the title bar is blank in "shade" mode?
> > Who/where/how do I report this?
> >
> > ~~R
> >
> Forgot to include, if it matters, that this is in fallback mode. I've
> not got a test system, yet, that will support non-fallback mode.
>

Fallback mode is Metacity, the same window manager that we've been using.
The code changed very little during the 3.x cycle so if there's a new bug
related to this the most likely culprit is the window theme.
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Re: GNOME Shell frippery for grumpy old stick-in-the-muds

[Jason D. Clinton]

On Sun, May 8, 2011 at 20:00, Richard England wrote:

> On 05/08/2011 02:31 AM, Ron Yorston wrote:
> > I've written a few extensions to make the GNOME Shell user experience a
> > bit more like that of GNOME 2.
> >
> > Move the clock towards the right of the panel;
> >
> > Place launchers for favourite applications on the panel;
> >
> > Replace the Activities button with an Applications menu;
> >
> > Disable dynamic workspaces.
> >
> > Some notes and a tar file can be found here:
> >
> > http://intgat.tigress.co.uk/rmy/extensions/index.html
> >
> > Ron
> Should your extensions function in fallback mode?  I was hoping to move
> the clock but do not see any change.
>

No.

Use the Alt key.
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Re: Fall back mode and launchers in the panel

[Jason D. Clinton]

On Sun, May 8, 2011 at 21:05, Leslie S Satenstein wrote:

> In non fall back mode, one cannot put favourites launchers in the panel.
> They go on the side, which consumes a lot of real-estate.
> In the graphics-off mode, the panel is activated, but once a launcher is
> copied to it, the launcher cannot be removed.
>
> This problem and the inability to relocate the clock, etc, are probably
> part of the teething problem
>

I already explained how to remove launchers from fallback mode the first
time you asked. If you have a problem with my recommendation, reply to that
thread. Do not reply to this thread.

This is the third time you've asked this question on this mailing list in as
many days. Do not repeat yourself again.
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Fall back mode and launchers in the panel

[Leslie S Satenstein]

In non fall back mode, one cannot put favourites launchers in the panel. They 
go on the side, which consumes a lot of real-estate.
In the graphics-off mode, the panel is activated, but once a launcher is copied 
to it, the launcher cannot be removed.

This problem and the inability to relocate the clock, etc, are probably part of 
the teething problem

By the way, Unity in graphics-on mode handles multiple desktops much better 
than does Gnome 3 in graphics-on mode. (I would say infinitely better).

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https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/xorg-x11-drv-openchrome-0.2.904-7.fc13
https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/lldpad-0.9.26-2.fc13


The following builds have been pushed to Fedora 13 updates-testing

nemiver-0.8.2-1.fc13
recoll-1.15.8-1.fc13
safekeep-1.3.2-2.fc13

Details about builds:



 nemiver-0.8.2-1.fc13 (FEDORA-2011-6705)
 A GNOME C/C++ Debugger

Update Information:

This update contains the new upstream 0.8.2 bug fix release of Nemiver.

ChangeLog:

* Sun May  8 2011  - 0.8.2-1
- Update to 0.8.2 release
- Change source0 to point to the .gz tarball




 recoll-1.15.8-1.fc13 (FEDORA-2011-6718)
 Desktop full text search tool with Qt GUI

Update Information:

Update to latest upstream release recoll 1.15.8.


ChangeLog:

* Sun May  8 2011 Terje Rosten  - 1.15.8-1
- 1.15.8
* Wed Feb  9 2011 Fedora Release Engineering  
- 1.14.4-2
- Rebuilt for https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_15_Mass_Rebuild

References:

  [ 1 ] Bug #702046 - Update recoll to 1.15.8
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=702046




 safekeep-1.3.2-2.fc13 (FEDORA-2011-6707)
 The SafeKeep backup system

Update Information:

Patch safekeep.cron to not run unless safekeep has been configured.

ChangeLog:

* Sun May  8 2011 Frank Crawford  1.3.2-2
- Patch safekeep.cron to not run unless safekeep has been configured


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https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/kdenetwork-4.6.2-2.fc14
https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/acpid-2.0.9-1.fc14
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https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/tomcat6-6.0.26-21.fc14
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https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/evolution-exchange-2.32.3-1.fc14,evolution-data-server-2.32.3-1.fc14,evolution-2.32.3-1.fc14
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https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/xorg-x11-drv-nouveau-0.0.16-14.20101010git8c8f15c.fc14
https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/dosfstools-3.0.9-6.fc14
https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/libimobiledevice-1.0.6-1.fc14

https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/libconcord-0.23-5.fc14,udev-161-9.fc14,concordance-0.23-2.fc14
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https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/xorg-x11-drv-geode-2.11.11-4.fc14


The following builds have been pushed to Fedora 14 updates-testing

RackTables-0.19.4-2.fc14
ghc-rpm-macros-0.10.53-1.fc14
gkeyfile-sharp-0.1-5.fc14
gourmet-0.15.9-1.fc14
ikiwiki-3.20110430-1.fc14
libmodplug-0.8.8.3-1.fc14
nemiver-0.8.2-1.fc14
qrq-0.2.0-1.fc14
recoll-1.15.8-1.fc14
safekeep-1.3.2-2.fc14
syslog-ng-3.1.4-2.fc14

Details about builds:



 RackTables-0.19.4-2.fc14 (FEDORA-2011-6710)
 A data-center asset management system

Update Information:

Rebase to v0.19.4

ChangeLog:

* Sun May  8 2011 Colin Coe  - 0.19.4-2
- s/datacenter/data-center/g to silence rpmlint spelling check errors
* Sat May  7 2011  - 0.19.4-1
- Rebase to v0.19.4
- Deprecate /etc/httpd/conf.d/RackTables.conf
- Include /usr/share/doc/RackTables-0.19.4/README.Fedora
- Stop using makeinstall macro

References:

  [ 1 ] Bug #646979 - RackTables-0.19.4 is available
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=646979




 ghc-rpm-macros-0.10.53-1.fc14 (FEDORA-2011-6712)
 Macros for building packages for GHC

ChangeLog:

* Sat May  7 2011 Jens Petersen  - 0.10.53-1
- backport ghc-deps.sh rpm dependency script for automatic versioned
  library dependencies (without hashes)
- drop ghc_pkg_deps from ghc_package_devel and ghc_package_prof since
  ghc-deps.sh generates better inter-package dependencies already




 gkeyfile-sharp-0.1-5.fc14 (FEDORA-2011-6706)
 C# bindings for glib2's keyfile implementation

Update Information:

* Fix System.DllNotFoundException when starting Banshee

ChangeLog:

* Sun May  8 2011 Christian Krause  - 0.1-5
- Add mono-devel as BR for correct generation of the Requires/Provides
* Sun May  8 2011 C

Re: GNOME Shell frippery for grumpy old stick-in-the-muds

[Richard England]

On 05/08/2011 02:31 AM, Ron Yorston wrote:
> I've written a few extensions to make the GNOME Shell user experience a
> bit more like that of GNOME 2.
>
> Move the clock towards the right of the panel;
>
> Place launchers for favourite applications on the panel;
>
> Replace the Activities button with an Applications menu;
>
> Disable dynamic workspaces.
>
> Some notes and a tar file can be found here:
>
> http://intgat.tigress.co.uk/rmy/extensions/index.html
>
> Ron
Should your extensions function in fallback mode?  I was hoping to move 
the clock but do not see any change.

~~R


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Re: Titlebar text missing in shade mode

[Richard England]

On 05/08/2011 05:22 PM, Richard England wrote:
> After discovering I needed "tweak tool" (gnome-tweak-tool*rpm) to make
> the window shade (aka shade mode) work I discovered that when a windows
> is "shaeded" the titlebar information disappears.  I use this
> extensively to move between several windows on a screen.
>
> Has any one else noticed that the title bar is blank in "shade" mode?
> Who/where/how do I report this?
>
> ~~R
>
Forgot to include, if it matters, that this is in fallback mode. I've 
not got a test system, yet, that will support non-fallback mode.

~~R

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Titlebar text missing in shade mode

[Richard England]

After discovering I needed "tweak tool" (gnome-tweak-tool*rpm) to make 
the window shade (aka shade mode) work I discovered that when a windows 
is "shaeded" the titlebar information disappears.  I use this 
extensively to move between several windows on a screen.

Has any one else noticed that the title bar is blank in "shade" mode?  
Who/where/how do I report this?

~~R

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F-15 Branched report: 20110508 changes

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Compose started at Sun May  8 13:15:42 UTC 2011

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Spicy f15

[Tom Horsley]

I was previously running spice in f14 with a silly wrapper
script to swap out the VNC video args and swap in the
spice args when invoking qemu. I wondered how difficult
it was going to be to transform the machine definition
to use the native spice support in the new libvirt,
but it turned out to be quite easy: I defined a dummy
KVM, telling virt-manager it was Windows XP and editing
the attributes prior to initial boot to enable virtio
and spice, then I let it boot up, killed it, and
dumped the xml to compare with my old xml. A little bit
of editing and adjusting pci slot definitions so as not
to upset the windows machine, and it booted up just fine.
Didn't even bring up the new hardware wizard. And now
it is safe to open the machines from virt-manager,
don't have to manually run the spice client anymore.

So it looks as if I won't have any problems porting
my KVMs from f14 to f15 (which is always good to
verify before actually making the jump :-).
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Re: How to debug plymouth?

[Ian Pilcher]

On 03/27/2011 10:21 AM, Rahul Sundaram wrote:
> On 03/27/2011 08:16 AM, Ian Pilcher wrote:
>> For some reason, plymouth is not displaying a graphical boot theme on my
>> newly installed (Fedora 15 Alpha) system -- despite the fact that kernel
>> modesetting works just fine.
>>
>> How can I debug this?
> 
> Just file a bug report and let the developer ask for more information if
> necessary
> 

https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=699243

What's plan B?

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Re: shell is gone?

[Jason D. Clinton]

On May 8, 2011 12:21 PM, "cornel panceac"  wrote:
> most of the problems i had with intel i also had with nouveau. what's the
next driver to be blacklisted, i wonder?

The 8xx blacklist was a *hardware* blacklist, not a driver. The hardware is
not capable of running any composted desktop correctly.
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Re: GNOME Shell frippery for grumpy old stick-in-the-muds

[Ron Yorston]

Leslie S Satenstein wrote:

>I see that you were able to activate System Tools. This menu entry
>does not appear in the fallback mode. It does appear in alacarte (Menu
>editor), along with a preferences menu. But there are many items in the
>preferences menu that are not available in Fallback mode. In
>particular, I did not find gnome screensaver preferences. Does your
>patch fix this problem?

I'm afraid not.  The gnome-screensaver-preferences application has gone
in F15.  I think the idea is to have stuff like this in the System
Settings application rather than the System menu. Some preferences seem
not to have made the transition.

>Here is one Problem I have been facing. Favourite applications on the
>panel, once placed, are unable to be removed. I have 2 copies of
>FreeCell (during System Updates, I play FreeCell) and I cannot remove
>either launcher from the panel.

Is this in fallback mode?  I only tried it briefly using the Beta Live CD.
I was unable to get launchers in the panel to work properly.  Reported as
Bugzilla #697306.

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Re: shell is gone?

[cornel panceac]

2011/5/8 Piscium 

> On 8 May 2011 07:09, cornel panceac  wrote:
>
> >> >From the gnome-session changelog:
> >>
> >> * Wed Apr 27 2011 Owen Taylor  - 3.0.1-2
> >> - Add a quick-and-dirty blacklist for Radeon R100, R200, Intel 8xx
> >>
> >> Your card is an intel 8xx ...
>
> My PC has i865 graphics. Two weeks ago I did a short test of Gnome 3
> (about half an hour) and it looked all right. I could not tell if it
> was faster or slower than Gnome 2 or KDE. I am not sure if it is
> really necessary to blacklist all Intel 8xx, but maybe the developer
> has his reasons.
>
>
> > oh, thnx a lot, drago01 .
> > if i only knew how to reverse the blacklist ...
>
> What about "yum downgrade gnome-session" ? If that works then you
> could disable updates for that package in yum.conf.
>

to be honest i was looking for a long term solution without disabling the
updates. i'm not sure that i understand the reasons behind this decision
considering that (at least) most of the problems i had with intel i also had
with nouveau. what's the next driver to be blacklisted, i wonder?
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Re: GNOME Shell frippery for grumpy old stick-in-the-muds

[cornel panceac]

2011/5/8 Kevin dePfyffer 

> On Sun, May 8, 2011 at 2:31 AM, Ron Yorston  wrote:
> > I've written a few extensions to make the GNOME Shell user experience a
> > bit more like that of GNOME 2.
> >
> >   Move the clock towards the right of the panel;
> >
> >   Place launchers for favourite applications on the panel;
> >
> >   Replace the Activities button with an Applications menu;
> >
> >   Disable dynamic workspaces.
> >
> > Some notes and a tar file can be found here:
> >
> >   http://intgat.tigress.co.uk/rmy/extensions/index.html
> >
> > Ron
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> thank you! this is great!
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gnome-shell-flippery...

[Rob Healey]

Dear Ron:

I totally love the new Gnome 3 and its shell, but there are still some
things that I do like from Gnome 2...

I have downloaded your new gnome-shell-extensions and I love the new panel
bar, but I would rsather have the notification area to be in the bottom
right corner of the screen!

Great work, and thank you for making these available to everyone!  I would
also submit them upstream, so that I could have them and get them easier if
I ever dump my computer and start again!

Sincerely yours,
Rob G. Healey


I've written a few extensions to make the GNOME Shell user experience a
bit more like that of GNOME 2.

  Move the clock towards the right of the panel;

  Place launchers for favourite applications on the panel;

  Replace the Activities button with an Applications menu;

  Disable dynamic workspaces.

Some notes and a tar file can be found here:

  http://intgat.tigress.co.uk/rmy/extensions/index.html



Ron


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Re: GNOME Shell frippery for grumpy old stick-in-the-muds Fedora 15 64Bit

[Richard Shaw]

On Sun, May 8, 2011 at 9:21 AM, Leslie S Satenstein
wrote:

> I see that you were able to activate System Tools.  This menu entry does
> not appear in the fallback mode.  It does appear in alacarte (Menu editor),
> along with a preferences menu. But there are many items in the preferences
> menu that are not available in Fallback mode.  In particular,   I did not
> find gnome screensaver preferences.  Does your patch fix this problem?
>

Do you mean the System menu and not Applications->System Tools? At least
that's what I've noticed. I've got F15 64bit installed in virtualbox and
apparently the VB video driver is not compatible with Gnome 3 or I have
something set wrong. Either way I have no System menu on the top panel.

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Re: [Fedora QA] #190: Proventester Mentor Request

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#190: Proventester Mentor Request
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  Type:  proventester request |  Status:  closed  
  Priority:  major|   Milestone:  
 Component:  Proventester Mentor Request  | Version:  
Resolution:  fixed|Keywords:  
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  * status:  assigned => closed
  * resolution:  => fixed

Comment:

 OK - I see your application for the proventester group now so I have
 sponsored you - enjoy testing as a proventester. There is a real need for
 plenty of testing especially as there is about 2 weeks to go to F15 GA!

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GNOME Shell frippery for grumpy old stick-in-the-muds Fedora 15 64Bit

[Leslie S Satenstein]

Good morning Rahul and Ron

I appreciate moving the clock to the right.  Actually an excellent option.  
With fall back, (graphics off)  I am not sure if I am the only one having this 
problem.

I see that you were able to activate System Tools.  This menu entry does not 
appear in the fallback mode.  It does appear in alacarte (Menu editor), along 
with a preferences menu. But there are many items in the preferences menu that 
are not available in Fallback mode.  In particular,   I did not find gnome 
screensaver preferences.  Does your patch fix this problem?

Here is one Problem I have been facing.  Favourite applications on the panel,  
once  placed,  are unable to be removed. I have 2 copies of FreeCell (during 
System Updates, I play FreeCell) and I cannot remove either launcher from the 
panel. 






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Re: GNOME Shell frippery for grumpy old stick-in-the-muds

[Kevin dePfyffer]

On Sun, May 8, 2011 at 2:31 AM, Ron Yorston  wrote:
> I've written a few extensions to make the GNOME Shell user experience a
> bit more like that of GNOME 2.
>
>   Move the clock towards the right of the panel;
>
>   Place launchers for favourite applications on the panel;
>
>   Replace the Activities button with an Applications menu;
>
>   Disable dynamic workspaces.
>
> Some notes and a tar file can be found here:
>
>   http://intgat.tigress.co.uk/rmy/extensions/index.html
>
> Ron
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Looks great, it would be nice to see something like this get included
in the next build, I think I would actually use gnome again if this
was some kind of classic switch you could toggle..
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Re: shell is gone?

[Piscium]

On 8 May 2011 07:09, cornel panceac  wrote:

>> >From the gnome-session changelog:
>>
>> * Wed Apr 27 2011 Owen Taylor  - 3.0.1-2
>> - Add a quick-and-dirty blacklist for Radeon R100, R200, Intel 8xx
>>
>> Your card is an intel 8xx ...

My PC has i865 graphics. Two weeks ago I did a short test of Gnome 3
(about half an hour) and it looked all right. I could not tell if it
was faster or slower than Gnome 2 or KDE. I am not sure if it is
really necessary to blacklist all Intel 8xx, but maybe the developer
has his reasons.


> oh, thnx a lot, drago01 .
> if i only knew how to reverse the blacklist ...

What about "yum downgrade gnome-session" ? If that works then you
could disable updates for that package in yum.conf.
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Re: GNOME Shell frippery for grumpy old stick-in-the-muds

[Erik P. Olsen]

On 08/05/11 11:31, Ron Yorston wrote:
> I've written a few extensions to make the GNOME Shell user experience a
> bit more like that of GNOME 2.
>
> Move the clock towards the right of the panel;
>
> Place launchers for favourite applications on the panel;
>
> Replace the Activities button with an Applications menu;
>
> Disable dynamic workspaces.
>
> Some notes and a tar file can be found here:
>
> http://intgat.tigress.co.uk/rmy/extensions/index.html
>
> Ron
Thanks a lot. You made my day.

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Re: GNOME Shell frippery for grumpy old stick-in-the-muds

[Rahul Sundaram]

On 05/08/2011 03:01 PM, Ron Yorston wrote:
> I've written a few extensions to make the GNOME Shell user experience a
> bit more like that of GNOME 2.
>
>Move the clock towards the right of the panel;
>
>Place launchers for favourite applications on the panel;
>
>Replace the Activities button with an Applications menu;
>
>Disable dynamic workspaces.
>
> Some notes and a tar file can be found here:
>
>http://intgat.tigress.co.uk/rmy/extensions/index.html

Seems interesting.  You might want to consider submitting these
extensions upstream

https://live.gnome.org/GnomeShell/Extensions

Just file a bug report with a patch for each of these extensions.   
There is already one submitted for the app menu.  So that's probably
just duplicated work

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GNOME Shell frippery for grumpy old stick-in-the-muds

[Ron Yorston]

I've written a few extensions to make the GNOME Shell user experience a
bit more like that of GNOME 2.

   Move the clock towards the right of the panel;

   Place launchers for favourite applications on the panel;

   Replace the Activities button with an Applications menu;

   Disable dynamic workspaces.

Some notes and a tar file can be found here:

   http://intgat.tigress.co.uk/rmy/extensions/index.html

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Re: [Fedora QA] #190: Proventester Mentor Request

[Fedora QA]

#190: Proventester Mentor Request
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  Reporter:  gixugif  |   Owner:  mcloaked
  Type:  proventester request |  Status:  assigned
  Priority:  major|   Milestone:  
 Component:  Proventester Mentor Request  | Version:  
Resolution:   |Keywords:  
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  * owner:  => mcloaked
  * status:  new => assigned

Comment:

 OK since you have satisfied the normal requirements, if you apply to the
 proventester group in FAS I will be happy to sponsor you. Once I see your
 application in FAS I will activate it.

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