Re: 3.16.x on i686

2014-06-25 Thread Adam Williamson
On Tue, 2014-06-24 at 23:54 -0400, Felix Miata wrote:
 On 2014-06-24 15:13 (GMT-0700) Adam Williamson composed:
 
  https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1104371
 
  Well, I wouldn't say scolded. Hans just asked you politely to file a new
  bug, since you have clearly different hardware. The Intel i8xx adapters
  are notoriously tricky hardware, and quite different from later Intel
  adapters. I'd say most likely yes, you're seeing a bug which is
  different from both the general i686 vdso bug *and* Filipe's intel video
  bug; so Hans is correct to ask you to file a new one. Please boot an
  affected kernel with 'drm.debug=15', allow the bug to happen, then
  either ssh in and grab the output of 'dmesg' or reboot to a working
  kernel and grab the output of 'journalctl -b-1' to attach to your bug.
 
 Are you sure what I described in that bug is different?

Well, it's impossible to be *sure* unless you provide the necessary
logs, as I mentioned above.

No-one can pretend to absolute knowledge of what is happening if all the
info we have to go on is X initialization fails.
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Re: 3.16.x on i686

2014-06-25 Thread Michal Jaegermann
On Tue, Jun 24, 2014 at 04:30:59PM -0700, Adam Williamson wrote:
 
 I think the Could not find init script errors are probably due to this
 'dangling symlink' problem, and the fact that .service files are being
 generated is intentional - just the way systemd is handling remaining
 sysv services - and not a bug.

That looks to me like an obvious bug.  Not a killer one but still.
systemd does so many things that it could easily check that it attempts
to handle a dangling symlink and skip it instead of going into, at
least, some long and noisy spurious loop.  It could even leave in logs
something like Warning: old dangling symlinks in subdirectories of
/etc/init.d and possibly suggest running 'symlinks -d /etc/init.d'
(or maybe even kill these leftovers itself but that would be likely
going too far).

   Michał
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Re: 3.16.x on i686

2014-06-25 Thread Peter Robinson
On Wed, Jun 25, 2014 at 3:24 AM, Adam Williamson awill...@redhat.com wrote:
 On Tue, 2014-06-24 at 19:48 -0500, Bruno Wolff III wrote:
 On Mon, Jun 23, 2014 at 13:52:10 -0500,
   Bruno Wolff III br...@wolff.to wrote:
 On Mon, Jun 23, 2014 at 11:34:53 -0700,
  Adam Williamson awill...@redhat.com wrote:
 
 All 3.16 kernels before 3.16.0-0.rc2.git0.1 are just fundamentally
 broken on i686, I think, unless you pass 'vdso=0'. I wouldn't bother
 messing with anything unless you're using the rc2 kernel, or passing
 vdso=0.
 
 I'll be testing that shortly on x86_64 and on i686 tonight. But I am
 seeing two different problems and I'd be surprised if either was that
 problem. I suspect I am not getting far enough into the boot to see
 that problem.

 3.16.0-0.rc2.git0.1 is pretty broken too. I am definitely seeing two
 other issues.

 Well, it's a pretty early one, so this isn't surprising. The 'special'
 thing about the vdso bug is it was, AFAICT, more or less a complete
 showstopper for the i686 kernel, regardless of hardware: it happened on
 any system you tried to boot an i686 kernel on.

 The one affecting raid has been filed. The other one is a crash early

 It looks like this one might be elsewhere in the I/O stack. When I got
 a live image to boot, dd reported /dev/sda3 as zero size which would
 explain why the superblock was bad. blkid returned info about the device
 so this seems really odd. And it only seems to happen on this one
 partition.

 Yup, file the bugs and hopefully they'll be fixed rapidly :)

We're seeing the same issue with ARM booting, we filed bug 1109603 [1]
but it's some what intermittent.

Peter

[1] https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1109603
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Re: 3.16.x on i686

2014-06-25 Thread Felix Miata

On 2014-06-24 23:34 (GMT-0700) Adam Williamson composed:


 https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1104371

...

Are you sure what I described in that bug is different?


Well, it's impossible to be *sure* unless you provide the necessary
logs, as I mentioned above.



No-one can pretend to absolute knowledge of what is happening if all the
info we have to go on is X initialization fails.


Where did you see X initialization fails? I've been booting with 3 on 
cmdline. Anyway, here's 2 of 3 drm.debug=15 dmesgs captured:


http://fm.no-ip.com/Tmp/Linux/F/dmsgI865Gf21k316rc2g01.txt
http://fm.no-ip.com/Tmp/Linux/F/dmsgI945Gf21k316rc2g01.txt
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Re: 3.16.x on i686

2014-06-25 Thread poma

On 24.06.2014 21:56, Felix Miata wrote:

On 2014-06-23 17:07 (GMT-0400) Felix Miata composed:


On 2014-06-23 11:34 (GMT-0700) Adam Williamson composed:



All 3.16 kernels before 3.16.0-0.rc2.git0.1 are just fundamentally
broken on i686, I think, unless you pass 'vdso=0'. I wouldn't bother
messing with anything unless you're using the rc2 kernel, or passing
vdso=0.



That doesn't help here:



root=/dev/sda17 ipv6.disable=1 net.ifnames=0 KEYTABLE=us noplymouth selinux=0
noresume splash=verbose vga=791 video=1024x768@60 3 vdso=0



With Kernel 3.16.0-0.rc1.git4.1.fc21.i686+PAE on i865G I have to use telnet
or ssh. Otherwise when init seems near completion, the screen goes black and
stays that way. I commented in someone else's bug (and got scolded):
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1104371


No improvement with Kernel 3.16.0-0.rc2.git0.1.fc21.i686+PAE with or without
vdso=0.



Until your X.Org X11 video module is resolved you can place 
xdriver=modesetting in the kernel command line.
Besides check there is no an active Driver directive as part of the Section 
Device somewhere in
/etc/X11/xorg.conf[.d/*.conf].

modesetting == modesetting_drv.so


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Re: 3.16.x on i686

2014-06-25 Thread Adam Williamson
On Wed, 2014-06-25 at 09:06 -0400, Felix Miata wrote:
 On 2014-06-24 23:34 (GMT-0700) Adam Williamson composed:
 
   https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1104371
 ...
  Are you sure what I described in that bug is different?
 
  Well, it's impossible to be *sure* unless you provide the necessary
  logs, as I mentioned above.
 
  No-one can pretend to absolute knowledge of what is happening if all the
  info we have to go on is X initialization fails.
 
 Where did you see X initialization fails? I've been booting with 3 on 
 cmdline. Anyway, here's 2 of 3 drm.debug=15 dmesgs captured:
 
 http://fm.no-ip.com/Tmp/Linux/F/dmsgI865Gf21k316rc2g01.txt

Er...this seems to be the log from the hardware you describe in your bug
comment, but:

 http://fm.no-ip.com/Tmp/Linux/F/dmsgI945Gf21k316rc2g01.txt

What is this from? Thanks.
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Re: 3.16.x on i686

2014-06-25 Thread Christopher Meng
On Wed, Jun 25, 2014 at 11:12 PM, Adam Williamson awill...@redhat.com wrote:
 http://fm.no-ip.com/Tmp/Linux/F/dmsgI945Gf21k316rc2g01.txt

 What is this from? Thanks.

I think it's from dmesg.

Yours sincerely,
Christopher Meng

Noob here.

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Re: 3.16.x on i686

2014-06-25 Thread Felix Miata

On 2014-06-25 08:12 (GMT-0700) Adam Williamson composed:


Where did you see X initialization fails? I've been booting with 3 on
cmdline. Anyway, here's 2 of 3 drm.debug=15 dmesgs captured:



http://fm.no-ip.com/Tmp/Linux/F/dmsgI865Gf21k316rc2g01.txt

   ^


Er...this seems to be the log from the hardware you describe in your bug
comment, but:



http://fm.no-ip.com/Tmp/Linux/F/dmsgI945Gf21k316rc2g01.txt

   ^

What is this from?


On 2014-06-24 23:54 (GMT-0400) Felix Miata composed:


It's repeatable ... on i865G, i915G and i945G


And the one in the middle:

http://fm.no-ip.com/Tmp/Linux/F/dmsgI915Gf21k316rc2g01.txt
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Re: 3.16.x on i686

2014-06-25 Thread Adam Williamson
On Wed, 2014-06-25 at 12:02 -0400, Felix Miata wrote:
 On 2014-06-25 08:12 (GMT-0700) Adam Williamson composed:
 
  Where did you see X initialization fails? I've been booting with 3 on
  cmdline. Anyway, here's 2 of 3 drm.debug=15 dmesgs captured:
 
  http://fm.no-ip.com/Tmp/Linux/F/dmsgI865Gf21k316rc2g01.txt
 ^
 
  Er...this seems to be the log from the hardware you describe in your bug
  comment, but:
 
  http://fm.no-ip.com/Tmp/Linux/F/dmsgI945Gf21k316rc2g01.txt
 ^
  What is this from?
 
 On 2014-06-24 23:54 (GMT-0400) Felix Miata composed:
 
  It's repeatable ... on i865G, i915G and i945G
 
 And the one in the middle:
 
 http://fm.no-ip.com/Tmp/Linux/F/dmsgI915Gf21k316rc2g01.txt

So...these are three different machines?

I'm curious: why are you passing video= parameters on each one? Do
any/all of them work if you don't pass that parameter?
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Re: 3.16.x on i686

2014-06-25 Thread Adam Williamson
On Wed, 2014-06-25 at 10:05 -0700, Adam Williamson wrote:
 On Wed, 2014-06-25 at 12:02 -0400, Felix Miata wrote:
  On 2014-06-25 08:12 (GMT-0700) Adam Williamson composed:
  
   Where did you see X initialization fails? I've been booting with 3 on
   cmdline. Anyway, here's 2 of 3 drm.debug=15 dmesgs captured:
  
   http://fm.no-ip.com/Tmp/Linux/F/dmsgI865Gf21k316rc2g01.txt
  ^
  
   Er...this seems to be the log from the hardware you describe in your bug
   comment, but:
  
   http://fm.no-ip.com/Tmp/Linux/F/dmsgI945Gf21k316rc2g01.txt
  ^
   What is this from?
  
  On 2014-06-24 23:54 (GMT-0400) Felix Miata composed:
  
   It's repeatable ... on i865G, i915G and i945G
  
  And the one in the middle:
  
  http://fm.no-ip.com/Tmp/Linux/F/dmsgI915Gf21k316rc2g01.txt
 
 So...these are three different machines?
 
 I'm curious: why are you passing video= parameters on each one? Do
 any/all of them work if you don't pass that parameter?

...and does it work if you append an 'e':

video=1024x768e

?
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dnf errors or kernel* rpm problems?

2014-06-25 Thread Kevin Martin
dnf upgrade doesn't show an error while updating the kernel packages but there 
are missing entries in grub2.conf after an upgrade
that should be for the new kernel that was downloaded and, supposedly, 
installed.  If I attempt a dnf reinstall of the kernel and
related rpms then I get the following errors:



 Package Arch  Version Repository  Size

Reinstalling:
 kernel  x86_643.16.0-0.rc2.git0.1.fc21rawhide 86 k
 kernel-core x86_643.16.0-0.rc2.git0.1.fc21rawhide 18 M
 kernel-modules  x86_643.16.0-0.rc2.git0.1.fc21rawhide 17 M
 kernel-headers  x86_643.16.0-0.rc2.git0.1.fc21rawhide985 k
 kernel-tools-libs   x86_643.16.0-0.rc2.git0.1.fc21rawhide 92 k
 replacing  kernel-tools-libs.x86_64 3.15.0-0.rc7.git0.1.fc21
 replacing  kernel-tools-libs.x86_64 3.15.0-0.rc8.git1.2.fc21
 replacing  kernel-tools-libs.x86_64 3.16.0-0.rc0.git11.1.fc21
 kernel-modules-extrax86_643.16.0-0.rc2.git0.1.fc21rawhide2.2 M
Transaction Summary

Total size: 38 M
Downloading Packages:

Total   3.7 GB/s |  38 MB 00:00
Running transaction check
Transaction check succeeded.
Running transaction test
Error: Transaction check error:
  file /usr/lib64/libcpupower.so.0.0.0 from install of 
kernel-tools-libs-3.16.0-0.rc2.git0.1.fc21.x86_64 conflicts with file from
package kernel-tools-libs-3.15.0-0.rc7.git0.1.fc21.x86_64
  file /usr/lib64/libcpupower.so.0.0.0 from install of 
kernel-tools-libs-3.16.0-0.rc2.git0.1.fc21.x86_64 conflicts with file from
package kernel-tools-libs-3.15.0-0.rc8.git1.2.fc21.x86_64
  file /usr/lib64/libcpupower.so.0.0.0 from install of 
kernel-tools-libs-3.16.0-0.rc2.git0.1.fc21.x86_64 conflicts with file from
package kernel-tools-libs-3.16.0-0.rc0.git11.1.fc21.x86_64
Error Summary
-





Dependencies resolved.

 Package Arch  Version Repository  Size

Reinstalling:
 kernel  x86_643.16.0-0.rc2.git0.1.fc21rawhide 86 k
 kernel-core x86_643.16.0-0.rc2.git0.1.fc21rawhide 18 M
 kernel-modules  x86_643.16.0-0.rc2.git0.1.fc21rawhide 17 M
 kernel-headers  x86_643.16.0-0.rc2.git0.1.fc21rawhide985 k
 replacing  kernel-headers.x86_64 3.16.0-0.rc0.git11.1.fc21
 kernel-tools-libs   x86_643.16.0-0.rc2.git0.1.fc21rawhide 92 k
 replacing  kernel-tools-libs.x86_64 3.15.0-0.rc7.git0.1.fc21
 replacing  kernel-tools-libs.x86_64 3.15.0-0.rc8.git1.2.fc21
 replacing  kernel-tools-libs.x86_64 3.16.0-0.rc0.git11.1.fc21
 kernel-modules-extrax86_643.16.0-0.rc2.git0.1.fc21rawhide2.2 M

Transaction Summary


Total size: 38 M
Downloading Packages:

Total   3.7 GB/s |  38 MB 00:00
Running transaction check
Transaction check succeeded.
Running transaction test
Error: Transaction check error:
  file /usr/lib64/libcpupower.so.0.0.0 from install of 
kernel-tools-libs-3.16.0-0.rc2.git0.1.fc21.x86_64 conflicts with file from
package kernel-tools-libs-3.15.0-0.rc7.git0.1.fc21.x86_64
  file /usr/lib64/libcpupower.so.0.0.0 from install of 
kernel-tools-libs-3.16.0-0.rc2.git0.1.fc21.x86_64 conflicts with file from
package kernel-tools-libs-3.15.0-0.rc8.git1.2.fc21.x86_64
  file /usr/lib64/libcpupower.so.0.0.0 from install of 
kernel-tools-libs-3.16.0-0.rc2.git0.1.fc21.x86_64 conflicts with file from
package kernel-tools-libs-3.16.0-0.rc0.git11.1.fc21.x86_64
  file /usr/include/linux/audit.h from install of 
kernel-headers-3.16.0-0.rc2.git0.1.fc21.x86_64 conflicts with file from package
kernel-headers-3.16.0-0.rc0.git11.1.fc21.x86_64
  file /usr/include/linux/btrfs.h from install of 
kernel-headers-3.16.0-0.rc2.git0.1.fc21.x86_64 conflicts with file from package
kernel-headers-3.16.0-0.rc0.git11.1.fc21.x86_64
  file /usr/include/linux/can.h from install of 
kernel-headers-3.16.0-0.rc2.git0.1.fc21.x86_64 conflicts with file from package
kernel-headers-3.16.0-0.rc0.git11.1.fc21.x86_64
  file /usr/include/linux/can/bcm.h from install of 
kernel-headers-3.16.0-0.rc2.git0.1.fc21.x86_64 conflicts with file from package
kernel-headers-3.16.0-0.rc0.git11.1.fc21.x86_64
  file 

Re: 3.16.x on i686

2014-06-25 Thread poma

On 25.06.2014 19:08, Adam Williamson wrote:

On Wed, 2014-06-25 at 10:05 -0700, Adam Williamson wrote:

On Wed, 2014-06-25 at 12:02 -0400, Felix Miata wrote:

On 2014-06-25 08:12 (GMT-0700) Adam Williamson composed:


Where did you see X initialization fails? I've been booting with 3 on
cmdline. Anyway, here's 2 of 3 drm.debug=15 dmesgs captured:



http://fm.no-ip.com/Tmp/Linux/F/dmsgI865Gf21k316rc2g01.txt

 ^


Er...this seems to be the log from the hardware you describe in your bug
comment, but:



http://fm.no-ip.com/Tmp/Linux/F/dmsgI945Gf21k316rc2g01.txt

 ^

What is this from?


On 2014-06-24 23:54 (GMT-0400) Felix Miata composed:


It's repeatable ... on i865G, i915G and i945G


And the one in the middle:

http://fm.no-ip.com/Tmp/Linux/F/dmsgI915Gf21k316rc2g01.txt


So...these are three different machines?

I'm curious: why are you passing video= parameters on each one? Do
any/all of them work if you don't pass that parameter?


...and does it work if you append an 'e':

video=1024x768e

?



'e' will force the display to be enabled, i.e. it will override the detection
if a display is connected.
https://www.kernel.org/doc/Documentation/fb/modedb.txt

Felix:
... Otherwise when init seems near completion, the screen goes black and
stays that way. ...

Obviously the screen is detected and enabled, however failing at Xorg 
initialisation,
i.e. Xorg failing at initialisation, display just follows.
And video res shouldn't affect the whole scene.
Certainly not in my case, however I don't use it plymouth. :)


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Re: 3.16.x on i686

2014-06-25 Thread Adam Williamson
On Wed, 2014-06-25 at 19:58 +0200, poma wrote:
 On 25.06.2014 19:08, Adam Williamson wrote:
  On Wed, 2014-06-25 at 10:05 -0700, Adam Williamson wrote:
  On Wed, 2014-06-25 at 12:02 -0400, Felix Miata wrote:
  On 2014-06-25 08:12 (GMT-0700) Adam Williamson composed:
 
  Where did you see X initialization fails? I've been booting with 3 on
  cmdline. Anyway, here's 2 of 3 drm.debug=15 dmesgs captured:
 
  http://fm.no-ip.com/Tmp/Linux/F/dmsgI865Gf21k316rc2g01.txt
   ^
 
  Er...this seems to be the log from the hardware you describe in your bug
  comment, but:
 
  http://fm.no-ip.com/Tmp/Linux/F/dmsgI945Gf21k316rc2g01.txt
   ^
  What is this from?
 
  On 2014-06-24 23:54 (GMT-0400) Felix Miata composed:
 
  It's repeatable ... on i865G, i915G and i945G
 
  And the one in the middle:
 
  http://fm.no-ip.com/Tmp/Linux/F/dmsgI915Gf21k316rc2g01.txt
 
  So...these are three different machines?
 
  I'm curious: why are you passing video= parameters on each one? Do
  any/all of them work if you don't pass that parameter?
 
  ...and does it work if you append an 'e':
 
  video=1024x768e
 
  ?
 
 
 'e' will force the display to be enabled, i.e. it will override the detection
 if a display is connected.
 https://www.kernel.org/doc/Documentation/fb/modedb.txt
 
 Felix:
 ... Otherwise when init seems near completion, the screen goes black and
 stays that way. ...
 
 Obviously the screen is detected and enabled,

Sorry, but nope: the point where it fails may be the point where the
intel kernel driver does hotplug detection.

  however failing at Xorg initialisation,

That's what I thought at first, but it isn't. He's booting with '3',
i.e. not to X.
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Re: 3.16.x on i686

2014-06-25 Thread Felix Miata

On 2014-06-25 10:05 (GMT-0700) Adam Williamson composed:


So...these are three different machines?


3 out of 14 on which Rawhide is currently installed (test machines total 20+) 
here, among which are represented various flavors of MGA (400  550), SiS 
(Z7/Z9 XG20 core), Intel (810, 815, 845, 865, 915, 945, 965, 3100, 4100), ATI 
(rv200, rv250, rv370, rv380, rv516)  NVidia for video.



I'm curious: why are you passing video= parameters on each one? Do
any/all of them work if you don't pass that parameter?


Most of my test machines get used most of the time with a '21' CRT with 
preferred mode 1600x1200 reported as preferred mode 1280x1024 used at 
approximately 175% of normal viewing distance. Avoiding eyestrain requires 
1152x864 or lower on the vttys unless I want to monkey with terminal font 
reconfiguration from default.


My second most used test machine display is a 19 LCD TV with native mode 
1440x900 that reports preferred 1280x1024 but supports 4:3 modes up to 
1792x1344. It is used at similar distance, so also needs 1024x768 on the 
vttys for the same reason as the CRT.


I also have 2 15 1024x768, 17  19 1280x1024 and 20 1600x1200 LCD puter 
displays, 2 31.5 TVs, and an abundance of other CRTs to use as test 
conditions require, in addition to the LCDs used for my 24/7 systems that can 
be briefly pressed into test service when necessary.

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Re: 3.16.x on i686

2014-06-25 Thread poma

On 25.06.2014 20:09, Adam Williamson wrote:

On Wed, 2014-06-25 at 19:58 +0200, poma wrote:

On 25.06.2014 19:08, Adam Williamson wrote:

On Wed, 2014-06-25 at 10:05 -0700, Adam Williamson wrote:

On Wed, 2014-06-25 at 12:02 -0400, Felix Miata wrote:

On 2014-06-25 08:12 (GMT-0700) Adam Williamson composed:


Where did you see X initialization fails? I've been booting with 3 on
cmdline. Anyway, here's 2 of 3 drm.debug=15 dmesgs captured:



http://fm.no-ip.com/Tmp/Linux/F/dmsgI865Gf21k316rc2g01.txt

  ^


Er...this seems to be the log from the hardware you describe in your bug
comment, but:



http://fm.no-ip.com/Tmp/Linux/F/dmsgI945Gf21k316rc2g01.txt

  ^

What is this from?


On 2014-06-24 23:54 (GMT-0400) Felix Miata composed:


It's repeatable ... on i865G, i915G and i945G


And the one in the middle:

http://fm.no-ip.com/Tmp/Linux/F/dmsgI915Gf21k316rc2g01.txt


So...these are three different machines?

I'm curious: why are you passing video= parameters on each one? Do
any/all of them work if you don't pass that parameter?


...and does it work if you append an 'e':

video=1024x768e

?



'e' will force the display to be enabled, i.e. it will override the detection
if a display is connected.
https://www.kernel.org/doc/Documentation/fb/modedb.txt

Felix:
... Otherwise when init seems near completion, the screen goes black and
stays that way. ...

Obviously the screen is detected and enabled,


Sorry, but nope: the point where it fails may be the point where the
intel kernel driver does hotplug detection.


  however failing at Xorg initialisation,


That's what I thought at first, but it isn't. He's booting with '3',
i.e. not to X.



Whoops! I missed it, and I'm not surprised.
At the vdso breakage I used
# systemctl set-default multi-user.target


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Re: 3.16.x on i686

2014-06-25 Thread poma

On 25.06.2014 20:10, Felix Miata wrote:

On 2014-06-25 10:05 (GMT-0700) Adam Williamson composed:


So...these are three different machines?


3 out of 14 on which Rawhide is currently installed (test machines total 20+)
here, among which are represented various flavors of MGA (400  550), SiS
(Z7/Z9 XG20 core), Intel (810, 815, 845, 865, 915, 945, 965, 3100, 4100), ATI
(rv200, rv250, rv370, rv380, rv516)  NVidia for video.


I'm curious: why are you passing video= parameters on each one? Do
any/all of them work if you don't pass that parameter?


Most of my test machines get used most of the time with a '21' CRT with
preferred mode 1600x1200 reported as preferred mode 1280x1024 used at
approximately 175% of normal viewing distance. Avoiding eyestrain requires
1152x864 or lower on the vttys unless I want to monkey with terminal font
reconfiguration from default.

My second most used test machine display is a 19 LCD TV with native mode
1440x900 that reports preferred 1280x1024 but supports 4:3 modes up to
1792x1344. It is used at similar distance, so also needs 1024x768 on the
vttys for the same reason as the CRT.

I also have 2 15 1024x768, 17  19 1280x1024 and 20 1600x1200 LCD puter
displays, 2 31.5 TVs, and an abundance of other CRTs to use as test
conditions require, in addition to the LCDs used for my 24/7 systems that can
be briefly pressed into test service when necessary.



# yum install terminus-fonts-console

- permanent system wide
/etc/vconsole.conf
FONT=Big mama font

e.g. 'latarcyrheb-sun32' or 'ter-v32b'

- runtime local
$ setfont latarcyrheb-sun32
$ setfont ter-v32b


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Re: 3.16.x on i686

2014-06-25 Thread Adam Williamson
On Wed, 2014-06-25 at 14:59 -0400, Felix Miata wrote:
 On 2014-06-25 10:08 (GMT-0700) Adam Williamson composed:
 
  On Wed, 2014-06-25 at 10:05 -0700, Adam Williamson wrote:
 
  I'm curious: why are you passing video= parameters on each one? Do
  any/all of them work if you don't pass that parameter?
 
  ...and does it work if you append an 'e':
 
  video=1024x768e
 
 video=1024x768@60e doesn't help.
 
 On 2014-06-25 14:12 (GMT-0400) Adam Williamson composed:
 
  That answers the first question, but not the second (or the third I sent
  as a follow-up).
 
 I thought I provided answers to all, so I'm not sure what might be missing. 
 Omitting both vga= and video= doesn't change anything,

That's what I was looking for, thanks.

  which I thought I 
 wrote early on in thread,

I don't know, but it's hard to remember everything that's been said!

  but may be in the bug I didn't yet submit.
 
 OTOH, might what's described at 
 http://lists.freedesktop.org/archives/intel-gfx/2014-June/047981.html be an 
 upstream solution forthcoming?

Good spot - that may very well be your issue, yeah, since you're using a
CRT display. It would also explain why I can't reproduce the bug on my
Intel graphics system, which is a laptop.

I might be able to whip up a test kernel for you later with that patch
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Re: 3.16.x on i686

2014-06-25 Thread Adam Williamson
On Tue, 2014-06-24 at 22:50 -0500, Bruno Wolff III wrote:
 On Tue, Jun 24, 2014 at 19:22:05 -0700,
   Adam Williamson awill...@redhat.com wrote:
 
 The most obvious thing is whether you have a SXXservice symlink
 in /etc/rc*.d; that constitutes the service being 'enabled' so far as
 SysV is concerned, and so in that case it seems correct for systemd to
 enable the runtime-generated systemd service. But there may be other
 reasons why this might happen, I think we'd best look at them case by
 case.
 
 I filed a bug (https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1112908) for 
 plague. Plague has both a systemd entry and an init.d file (but not 
 files for any run levels) for the plague-server service. That seems odd, 
 but I don't know if that is the cause of the problem.

So I think I have a handle on what's causing the bug of sysv services
starting when they're not supposed to - turns out to be (I think) a
fairly subtle bug in the sysv-generator code, if I'm right, then I'm
proud of myself for figuring it out :P See
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1112908#c9 . I'm currently
running a systemd scratch build which I hope is going to fix the
problem:

http://koji.fedoraproject.org/koji/taskinfo?taskID=7076318

assuming it builds successfully (AdamW Patching C: Take Cover!), if you
could test with that it'd be good.

sysv-generator actually landed in systemd-214 (not 209 as I'd thought),
so it makes sense that we're only just now seeing this bug crop up.
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Re: 3.16.x on i686

2014-06-25 Thread Bruno Wolff III

On Wed, Jun 25, 2014 at 12:56:41 -0700,
 Adam Williamson awill...@redhat.com wrote:


http://koji.fedoraproject.org/koji/taskinfo?taskID=7076318

assuming it builds successfully (AdamW Patching C: Take Cover!), if you
could test with that it'd be good.


I'm installing it now. Should be about 30 minutes before I get back to 
you with results.



sysv-generator actually landed in systemd-214 (not 209 as I'd thought),
so it makes sense that we're only just now seeing this bug crop up.


Do we want a bug for the dangling symlink handling? It would be nice if 
they got cleaned up automatically. Barring that, a different message 
that made it clear you should remove them as the current message wasn't 
all that obvious about what was going on.

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Re: 3.16.x on i686

2014-06-25 Thread Felix Miata

On 2014-06-25 12:53 (GMT-0700) Adam Williamson composed:


Good spot - that may very well be your issue, yeah, since you're using a
CRT display. It would also explain why I can't reproduce the bug on my
Intel graphics system, which is a laptop.


The i915G at least also puts to sleep my 1440x900 LCD TV and my 1600x1200 
Dell LCD. Which gfxchip is in your laptop?

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Re: 3.16.x on i686

2014-06-25 Thread Adam Williamson
On Wed, 2014-06-25 at 15:09 -0500, Bruno Wolff III wrote:
 On Wed, Jun 25, 2014 at 12:56:41 -0700,
   Adam Williamson awill...@redhat.com wrote:
 
 http://koji.fedoraproject.org/koji/taskinfo?taskID=7076318
 
 assuming it builds successfully (AdamW Patching C: Take Cover!), if you
 could test with that it'd be good.
 
 I'm installing it now. Should be about 30 minutes before I get back to 
 you with results.

Hum, you can probably skip it - the patch isn't exactly wrong, but it's
also not exactly right and also not exactly sufficient. as you can
probably tell, this is getting complicated...
https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=80537

 sysv-generator actually landed in systemd-214 (not 209 as I'd thought),
 so it makes sense that we're only just now seeing this bug crop up.
 
 Do we want a bug for the dangling symlink handling? It would be nice if 
 they got cleaned up automatically. Barring that, a different message 
 that made it clear you should remove them as the current message wasn't 
 all that obvious about what was going on.

eh, I don't know if it's really systemd's job to go around cleaning
up /etc/init.d , and if it might not possibly have unintended
consequences in some weird case? might want to make it a devel@ or
systemd mailing list kickaround rather than a bug report. Providing more
useful log info might be worth a bug report though.
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Re: 3.16.x on i686

2014-06-25 Thread Bruno Wolff III

On Wed, Jun 25, 2014 at 14:10:31 -0700,
 Adam Williamson awill...@redhat.com wrote:

On Wed, 2014-06-25 at 15:09 -0500, Bruno Wolff III wrote:

On Wed, Jun 25, 2014 at 12:56:41 -0700,
  Adam Williamson awill...@redhat.com wrote:

http://koji.fedoraproject.org/koji/taskinfo?taskID=7076318

assuming it builds successfully (AdamW Patching C: Take Cover!), if you
could test with that it'd be good.

I'm installing it now. Should be about 30 minutes before I get back to
you with results.


Hum, you can probably skip it - the patch isn't exactly wrong, but it's
also not exactly right and also not exactly sufficient. as you can
probably tell, this is getting complicated...
https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=80537


Well it made things better. The several services that were erroneously being 
started are no getting started.


However on the first reboot after installation the shutdown hung. I powered 
off rather than wait for a timeout, since this happens relatively often 
with systemd updates. However the two times the system has come up, the 
network service (I use that in preference to NM) did not come up properly 
and I had to manually start it to have working network access.


systemctl status network
● network.service - LSB: Bring up/down networking
  Loaded: loaded (/etc/rc.d/init.d/network)
  Active: inactive (dead)

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Re: 3.16.x on i686

2014-06-25 Thread Felix Miata

On 2014-06-25 16:50 (GMT-0400) Felix Miata composed:


On 2014-06-25 12:53 (GMT-0700) Adam Williamson composed:



Good spot - that may very well be your issue, yeah, since you're using a
CRT display. It would also explain why I can't reproduce the bug on my
Intel graphics system, which is a laptop.



The i915G at least also puts to sleep my 1440x900 LCD TV and my 1600x1200
Dell LCD. Which gfxchip is in your laptop?


And is its kernel i686?

I'm half done now doing upgrade on 64 bit 4000 series
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Re: 3.16.x on i686

2014-06-25 Thread Adam Williamson
On Wed, 2014-06-25 at 16:16 -0500, Bruno Wolff III wrote:
 On Wed, Jun 25, 2014 at 14:10:31 -0700,
   Adam Williamson awill...@redhat.com wrote:
 On Wed, 2014-06-25 at 15:09 -0500, Bruno Wolff III wrote:
  On Wed, Jun 25, 2014 at 12:56:41 -0700,
Adam Williamson awill...@redhat.com wrote:
  
  http://koji.fedoraproject.org/koji/taskinfo?taskID=7076318
  
  assuming it builds successfully (AdamW Patching C: Take Cover!), if you
  could test with that it'd be good.
 
  I'm installing it now. Should be about 30 minutes before I get back to
  you with results.
 
 Hum, you can probably skip it - the patch isn't exactly wrong, but it's
 also not exactly right and also not exactly sufficient. as you can
 probably tell, this is getting complicated...
 https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=80537
 
 Well it made things better. The several services that were erroneously being 
 started are no getting started.

Yeah, but it doesn't do what the code is actually *supposed* to do,
which is make those services depend on network-online.target . It would
also break some other things the code currently does correctly.

 However on the first reboot after installation the shutdown hung. I powered 
 off rather than wait for a timeout, since this happens relatively often 
 with systemd updates. However the two times the system has come up, the 
 network service (I use that in preference to NM) did not come up properly 
 and I had to manually start it to have working network access.

I don't think that has anything to do with my change, but it's kinda
academic :)
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dracut shell instead of anaconda :-(

2014-06-25 Thread Felix Miata

http://fm.no-ip.com/Tmp/Linux/F/rdsosreportF21wd500.txt plain
http://fm.no-ip.com/Tmp/Linux/F/rdsosreportF21wd501.txt rd.debug

Can anyone look at either of these rdsosreports and tell me if there's 
anything I can do other than wait for the next builds of installation kernel, 
initrd  squashfs and try again? Are any of the three on the mirrors now 
known to be broken?


http://alt.fedoraproject.org/pub/fedora/linux/development/rawhide/i386/os/LiveOS/squashfs.img 
2014-06-25 11:06 	289M
http://alt.fedoraproject.org/pub/fedora/linux/development/rawhide/i386/os/isolinux/initrd.img 
2014-06-25 11:09 	41M
http://alt.fedoraproject.org/pub/fedora/linux/development/rawhide/i386/os/isolinux/vmlinuz 
2014-06-24 14:45 	5.8M


Overview:
Trying to HTTP install starting from Grub
Core2duo CPU
3000 series video
2G RAM
Target partition sdc11
sda  sdb not involved except to host Grub on sda
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Call for gnupg 1.4.17 testing

2014-06-25 Thread Brian C. Lane
I have built the new version of gnupg that fixes a security issue, among
other things. If you can, please test the new build and leave feedback
so we can get these stable ASAP.

F19 build -
https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/FEDORA-2014-7678/gnupg-1.4.17-1.fc19

F20 build -
https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/FEDORA-2014-7676/gnupg-1.4.17-1.fc20

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Re: dracut shell instead of anaconda :-(

2014-06-25 Thread Brian C. Lane
This was due to a util-linux bug, pjones patched it this afternoon and
tonight's compose should be better. We hope.
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Fedora 19 updates-testing report

2014-06-25 Thread updates
The following Fedora 19 Security updates need testing:
 Age  URL
 243  
https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/FEDORA-2013-19963/openstack-glance-2013.1.4-1.fc19
  55  https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/FEDORA-2014-5896/nrpe-2.15-2.fc19
  44  
https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/FEDORA-2014-6233/dpkg-1.16.14-1.fc19
  35  
https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/FEDORA-2014-6553/chicken-4.8.0.6-2.fc19
  33  
https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/FEDORA-2014-6597/drupal7-views-3.8-1.fc19
  13  
https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/FEDORA-2014-7274/tor-0.2.4.22-2.fc19
  12  
https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/FEDORA-2014-7333/ReviewBoard-1.7.26-2.fc19,python-django-evolution-0.6.9-4.fc19
  12  
https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/FEDORA-2014-7322/thunderbird-24.6.0-1.fc19
   7  https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/FEDORA-2014-7490/sos-3.1-1.fc19
   6  
https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/FEDORA-2014-7496/readline-6.2-8.fc19
   4  
https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/FEDORA-2014-7572/kdelibs-4.11.5-4.fc19
   4  
https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/FEDORA-2014-7570/asterisk-11.10.2-2.fc19
   4  
https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/FEDORA-2014-6774/claws-mail-3.10.1-1.fc19,claws-mail-plugins-3.10.0-1.fc19,libetpan-1.5-1.fc19
   4  
https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/FEDORA-2014-7603/zabbix-2.0.12-3.fc19
   4  
https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/FEDORA-2014-7610/perl-Email-Address-1.905-1.fc19
   2  
https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/FEDORA-2014-7654/samba-4.0.19-1.fc19
   1  
https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/FEDORA-2014-7645/couchdb-1.6.0-2.fc19,erlang-ibrowse-4.0.1-1.fc19
   1  
https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/FEDORA-2014-7690/seamonkey-2.26.1-1.fc19
   1  
https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/FEDORA-2014-7679/libreoffice-4.1.6.2-7.fc19
   1  
https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/FEDORA-2014-7678/gnupg-1.4.17-1.fc19
   0  https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/FEDORA-2014-7734/xen-4.2.4-6.fc19
   0  
https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/FEDORA-2014-7716/python-simplejson-3.5.3-1.fc19


The following Fedora 19 Critical Path updates have yet to be approved:
 Age URL
 191  
https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/FEDORA-2013-22326/fedora-bookmarks-15-5.fc19
 117  
https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/FEDORA-2014-3245/testdisk-6.14-2.fc19.1,ntfs-3g-2014.2.15-1.fc19
  13  https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/FEDORA-2014-7270/qt-4.8.6-9.fc19
  13  
https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/FEDORA-2014-7285/gupnp-av-0.12.6-1.fc19
  12  
https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/FEDORA-2014-7322/thunderbird-24.6.0-1.fc19
  11  
https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/FEDORA-2014-7395/squashfs-tools-4.3-6.fc19
   8  
https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/FEDORA-2014-7462/btrfs-progs-3.14.2-1.fc19
   8  
https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/FEDORA-2014-7453/kde-workspace-4.11.10-2.fc19
   6  
https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/FEDORA-2014-7496/readline-6.2-8.fc19
   6  https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/FEDORA-2014-7498/pcre-8.32-9.fc19
   4  
https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/FEDORA-2014-7559/polkit-qt-0.103.0-10.fc19
   4  
https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/FEDORA-2014-7572/kdelibs-4.11.5-4.fc19
   2  
https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/FEDORA-2014-7654/samba-4.0.19-1.fc19
   0  
https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/FEDORA-2014-7735/gcc-4.8.3-1.fc19,libtool-2.4.2-24.fc19,gcc-python-plugin-0.12-16.fc19,dragonegg-3.3-2.fc19


The following builds have been pushed to Fedora 19 updates-testing

dragonegg-3.3-2.fc19
edelib-2.1-2.fc19
fedpkg-1.16-1.fc19
gambas3-3.5.4-1.fc19
gcc-4.8.3-1.fc19
gcc-python-plugin-0.12-16.fc19
glusterfs-3.5.1-1.fc19
grub2-2.00-26.fc19
ibus-table-1.8.3-1.fc19
ibus-table-others-1.3.0.20140625-1.fc19
libtool-2.4.2-24.fc19
mingw-gsm-1.0.13-1.fc19
openscap-1.0.9-1.fc19
perl-Config-Generator-0.8-1.fc19
perl-PerlIO-via-Timeout-0.29-2.fc19
python-simplejson-3.5.3-1.fc19
sddm-0.2.0-0.29.20140623gitdb1d7381.fc19
wine-mono-4.5.2-4.fc19
xen-4.2.4-6.fc19

Details about builds:



 dragonegg-3.3-2.fc19 (FEDORA-2014-7735)
 GCC plugin to use LLVM optimizers and code generators

Update Information:

This update updates gcc to 4.8.3, fixing over 270 bugs since gcc-4.8.2-7.fc19.

ChangeLog:

* Wed Jun 25 2014 Jakub Jelinek ja...@redhat.com 3.3-2
- Rebuild for gcc-4.8.3-1.fc19.




 edelib-2.1-2.fc19 (FEDORA-2014-7719)
 Small and portable C++ library for EDE