[Test-Announce] Fedora 14 Final Release Declared GOLD

2010-10-26 Thread John Poelstra
At the Fedora 14 Final Go/No-Go meeting today, the Fedora 14 Final 
Release was declared GOLD and ready for release on November 2, 2010.

Thank you to everyone who made this on-time release possible!

A reminder that the Fedora 14 Release Wide Readiness Meeting will take 
place on Thursday at 19:00 UTC (3 PM Eastern/ 12 PM Pacific) at 
irc.freenode.net #fedora-meeting
https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Release_Readiness_Meetings


#fedora-meeting: Fedora 14 Final Release Go/No-Go Meeting 
http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Go_No_Go_Meeting



Meeting started by poelcat at 20:59:48 UTC. The full logs are available
at
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Meeting summary
---
* attendees: jlaska Oxf13 adamw poelcat dcantrell (and anyone on
   #fedora-meeting)  (poelcat, 21:03:40)
* Why are here and what does it mean?  (poelcat, 21:03:51)
   * LINK: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Go_No_Go_Meeting   (poelcat,
 21:04:02)

* Testing Status  (poelcat, 21:05:10)
   * LINK:
 https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Test_Results:Fedora_14_Final_RC1_Desktop
 (jlaska, 21:06:54)
   * LINK:
 https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Test_Results:Fedora_14_Final_RC1_Install
 (jlaska, 21:07:07)
   * https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=646437  (jlaska,
 21:13:14)
   * test matrices are clear  (poelcat, 21:16:24)

* Releng  (poelcat, 21:18:12)

* fesco/devel/etc  (poelcat, 21:18:52)
   * the source DVD is 5gigs, but it was oversize last release too
 (poelcat, 21:19:27)

* GOLD or Not?  (poelcat, 21:32:48)
   * AGREED: Fedora 14 is declared GOLD  (poelcat, 21:34:55)
   * ACTION: add DVD size issue to common bugs  (poelcat, 21:35:06)

* open discussion  (poelcat, 21:35:55)
   * ACTION: poelcat to send GOLD email to the lists w/ reminder for
 release readiness meeting on Thursday  (poelcat, 21:39:06)

Meeting ended at 21:39:19 UTC.




Action Items

* add DVD size issue to common bugs
* poelcat to send GOLD email to the lists w/ reminder for release
   readiness meeting on Thursday




Action Items, by person
---
* poelcat
   * poelcat to send GOLD email to the lists w/ reminder for release
 readiness meeting on Thursday
* **UNASSIGNED**
   * add DVD size issue to common bugs




People Present (lines said)
---
* poelcat (57)
* adamw (55)
* jlaska (25)
* Oxf13 (22)
* fenris02 (15)
* stickster (7)
* brunowolff (5)
* dcantrell (3)
* bcl (2)
* zodbot (2)
* cyberpear (1)
* rbergeron (1)




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[Test-Announce] Fedora 14 Final Release Declared GOLD

2010-10-26 Thread John Poelstra
At the Fedora 14 Final Go/No-Go meeting today, the Fedora 14 Final 
Release was declared GOLD and ready for release on November 2, 2010.

Thank you to everyone who made this on-time release possible!

A reminder that the Fedora 14 Release Wide Readiness Meeting will take 
place on Thursday at 19:00 UTC (3 PM Eastern/ 12 PM Pacific) at 
irc.freenode.net #fedora-meeting
https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Release_Readiness_Meetings


#fedora-meeting: Fedora 14 Final Release Go/No-Go Meeting 
http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Go_No_Go_Meeting



Meeting started by poelcat at 20:59:48 UTC. The full logs are available
at
http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting/2010-10-26/fedora-meeting.2010-10-26-20.59.log.html
.



Meeting summary
---
* attendees: jlaska Oxf13 adamw poelcat dcantrell (and anyone on
   #fedora-meeting)  (poelcat, 21:03:40)
* Why are here and what does it mean?  (poelcat, 21:03:51)
   * LINK: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Go_No_Go_Meeting   (poelcat,
 21:04:02)

* Testing Status  (poelcat, 21:05:10)
   * LINK:
 https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Test_Results:Fedora_14_Final_RC1_Desktop
 (jlaska, 21:06:54)
   * LINK:
 https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Test_Results:Fedora_14_Final_RC1_Install
 (jlaska, 21:07:07)
   * https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=646437  (jlaska,
 21:13:14)
   * test matrices are clear  (poelcat, 21:16:24)

* Releng  (poelcat, 21:18:12)

* fesco/devel/etc  (poelcat, 21:18:52)
   * the source DVD is 5gigs, but it was oversize last release too
 (poelcat, 21:19:27)

* GOLD or Not?  (poelcat, 21:32:48)
   * AGREED: Fedora 14 is declared GOLD  (poelcat, 21:34:55)
   * ACTION: add DVD size issue to common bugs  (poelcat, 21:35:06)

* open discussion  (poelcat, 21:35:55)
   * ACTION: poelcat to send GOLD email to the lists w/ reminder for
 release readiness meeting on Thursday  (poelcat, 21:39:06)

Meeting ended at 21:39:19 UTC.




Action Items

* add DVD size issue to common bugs
* poelcat to send GOLD email to the lists w/ reminder for release
   readiness meeting on Thursday




Action Items, by person
---
* poelcat
   * poelcat to send GOLD email to the lists w/ reminder for release
 readiness meeting on Thursday
* **UNASSIGNED**
   * add DVD size issue to common bugs




People Present (lines said)
---
* poelcat (57)
* adamw (55)
* jlaska (25)
* Oxf13 (22)
* fenris02 (15)
* stickster (7)
* brunowolff (5)
* dcantrell (3)
* bcl (2)
* zodbot (2)
* cyberpear (1)
* rbergeron (1)




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[Test-Announce] Fedora 14 FINAL Go/No-Go Meeting Tuesday, October 26, 2010 @ 21:00 UTC

2010-10-25 Thread John Poelstra
Join us on irc.freenode.net #fedora-meeting for this important meeting.

Tuesday October 26, 2010 @ 21:00 UTC (17:00 EDT/14:00 PDT)

Before each public release Development, QA, and Release Engineering 
meet to determine if the release criteria are met for a particular 
release. This meeting is called the: Go/No-Go Meeting.

Verifying that the Release criteria are met is the responsibility of 
the QA Team.

For more details about this meeting see:
https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Go_No_Go_Meeting

In the meantime keep an eye on the Fedora 14 Final Blocker list and help 
us finish filling out the test result matrices.

https://bugzilla.redhat.com/showdependencytree.cgi?id=F14Blockerhide_resolved=1
http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Category:Fedora_14_Final_RC_Test_Results

John
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Upcoming Fedora 14 Tasks--GA is 1 week away

2010-10-24 Thread John Poelstra
Start   End Name
Thu 21-Oct  Tue 26-Oct  Test 'Final' RC
Tue 26-Oct  Tue 26-Oct  Fedora 14 Final Go/No-Go Meeting (17:00 US Eastern)
Thu 28-Oct  Thu 28-Oct  Fedora 14 Final Release Readiness Meeting
Tue 02-Nov  Tue 02-Nov  Final (GA) Release
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[Test-Announce] Fedora 14 Final Blocker Bug Review Meeting TODAY @ 16:00 UTC (12 PM EDT)

2010-10-22 Thread John Poelstra

When: TODAY, 2010-10-22 @ 16:00 UTC (12 PM EDT/9 AM PDT)
Where: #fedora-bugzappers on irc.freenode.net

We need to keep testing and resolving blocker bugs before the Go/No-Go 
Meeting on Tuesday, October 26, 2010.

Discuss the open blocker bugs: http://bit.ly/aBqOcu

645283  [NEW --- - medium - assigned to dh...@redhat.com -Target: --- -] 
livecd-tools should create a /etc/mdadm.conf so that Intel BIOS RAID 
arrays get auto started   [See dependency tree for bug 645283]

645293 [NEW --- - medium - assigned to kernel-ma...@redhat.com -Target: 
--- - CommonBugs] kernel does not recognize the partitions on an mdraid 
array (Intel BIOS RAID) [See dependency tree for bug 645293]

645606 [NEW --- - urgent - assigned to mcla...@redhat.com -Target: --- 
-] Plain background used instead of Laughlin [See dependency tree for 
bug 645606]
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Upcoming Fedora 14 Tasks

2010-10-17 Thread John Poelstra
Start   End Name
Tue 28-Sep  Mon 18-Oct  Beta Testing
Tue 12-Oct  Mon 18-Oct  Test 'Final' Test Compose (TC)
Mon 18-Oct  Mon 18-Oct  End of Beta Testing
Mon 18-Oct  Mon 18-Oct  Final Blocker Meeting (f14blocker)--Blocks RC 
Compose
Thu 21-Oct  Tue 26-Oct  Test 'Final' RC
Tue 26-Oct  Tue 26-Oct  Fedora 14 Final Go/No-Go Meeting (17:00 US Eeastern)
Thu 28-Oct  Thu 28-Oct  Fedora 14 Final Release Readiness Meeting
Tue 02-Nov  Tue 02-Nov  Final (GA) Release
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Re: Fedora 14 under constant load

2010-10-15 Thread John Poelstra
Scott Robbins said the following on 10/15/2010 10:28 AM Pacific Time:
 On Fri, Oct 15, 2010 at 06:18:37PM +0100, Peter Robinson wrote:


 On Fri, Oct 15, 2010 at 6:08 PM, Adam Williamsonawill...@redhat.com  wrote:


 Now I actually look at the load stats, I do seem to have something like
 this problem, I just never noticed (I thought Poelcat was talking about
 CPU load % at first):

 Although not in Adam's case, as he doesn't mention thunderbird, is there
 any chance for any of you others that this article is relevant?

 http://perfprotector.blogspot.com/2010/08/thunderbird-3-is-it-really-all-yours.html



No.  I see it with a fresh boot and only terminal window running.

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Re: Fedora 14 under constant load

2010-10-15 Thread John Poelstra
Scott Robbins said the following on 10/15/2010 11:29 AM Pacific Time:
 On Fri, Oct 15, 2010 at 11:51:25AM -0600, Orion Poplawski wrote:
 On 10/15/2010 11:28 AM, Scott Robbins wrote:

 Yeah, I can get to that without tb or firefox, but that is still really high
 load.  On earlier machines I can get to very load loads (  0.1) with just
 terminals.


 By golly, you're right--I'm now looking at some CentOS and
 FreeBSD machines doing much more, and the load is more around 0.1.


The tip off for me was seeing any red in the system monitor applet, 
which there rarely is given my workload.

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[Test-Announce] Fedora 14 Final Blocker Bug Review Meeting 2010-10-15 @ 16:00 UTC (12 PM EDT)

2010-10-14 Thread John Poelstra
When: Friday, 2010-10-15 @ 16:00 UTC (12 PM EDT/9 AM PDT)
Where: #fedora-bugzappers on irc.freenode.net

Open blocker bugs are here: http://bit.ly/aBqOcu

Details of the current unresolved blocker bugs are here:
http://lists.fedoraproject.org/pipermail/devel-announce/2010-October/000707.html

Please join us tomorrow for this important meeting.

John
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Fedora 14 under constant load

2010-10-14 Thread John Poelstra
Compared to Fedora 13 and Fedora 12, I'm noticing that on my Dell XPS 
M1330 laptop, the system is under a load average of 1.0+ at all times... 
even with no desktop applications open.

Naturally this makes it run hotter and shortens the battery life.

Are other people seeing this?  How to diagnose further beyond 'top' or 
system monitor?

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Re: Fedora 14 under constant load

2010-10-14 Thread John Poelstra
Adam Williamson said the following on 10/14/2010 04:38 PM Pacific Time:
 On Thu, 2010-10-14 at 16:29 -0700, John Poelstra wrote:
 Compared to Fedora 13 and Fedora 12, I'm noticing that on my Dell XPS
 M1330 laptop, the system is under a load average of 1.0+ at all times...
 even with no desktop applications open.

 Naturally this makes it run hotter and shortens the battery life.

 Are other people seeing this?

 Nope.

How to diagnose further beyond 'top' or
 system monitor?

 Check what process is using all the CPU time, and investigate that. I'm
 guessing it may be X?

That's what's so mysterious, very little CPU time or activity.

http://poelstra.fedorapeople.org/paste-bin/f14-load.png

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[Test-Announce] Fedora 14 Final Blocker Bug Review Meeting 2010-10-15 @ 16:00 UTC (12 PM EDT)

2010-10-14 Thread John Poelstra
When: Friday, 2010-10-15 @ 16:00 UTC (12 PM EDT/9 AM PDT)
Where: #fedora-bugzappers on irc.freenode.net

Open blocker bugs are here: http://bit.ly/aBqOcu

Details of the current unresolved blocker bugs are here:
http://lists.fedoraproject.org/pipermail/devel-announce/2010-October/000707.html

Please join us tomorrow for this important meeting.

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Upcoming Fedora 14 Tasks

2010-10-10 Thread John Poelstra
Start   End Name
Tue 28-Sep  Mon 18-Oct  Beta Testing
Thu 07-Oct  Wed 13-Oct  Pre-RC Acceptance Test Plan
Mon 11-Oct  Fri 15-Oct  Daily Review  Notification of Open Final 
Blocker Bugs
Tue 12-Oct  Mon 18-Oct  Test 'Final' Test Compose (TC)
Fri 15-Oct  Fri 15-Oct  Final Blocker Meeting (f14blocker) #4
Mon 18-Oct  Mon 18-Oct  Final Blocker Meeting (f14blocker)--Blocks RC 
Compose
Mon 18-Oct  Mon 18-Oct  End of Beta Testing
Thu 21-Oct  Tue 26-Oct  Test 'Final' RC
Tue 26-Oct  Tue 26-Oct  Fedora 14 Final Go/No-Go Meeting (17:00 US Eeastern)
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[Test-Announce] Fedora 14 Blocker Bugs + Review Meeting 2010-10-08 @ 16:00 UTC (12 PM EST)

2010-10-06 Thread John Poelstra
When: Friday, 2010-10-08 @ 16:00 UTC (12 PM EST)
Where: #fedora-bugzappers on irc.freenode.net

Here are the current bugs listed as blocking the final release of Fedora 
14. We'll be discussing all of these to determine if they meet the 
criteria, should stay on the list, and are getting the attention they 
need.

--If you are the OWNER of one of these bugs, PLEASE add a comment to the 
bug letting us know how things are going and what you are planning to do 
next.  I

--If your bug is in MODIFIED, please make sure a build and bodhi update 
have been submitted.  If that's already happened, please change the bug 
to ON_QA so we can start test verificaiton.

Thank you,
John

599873 :: NEW :: valide :: bioinfornat...@gmail.com :: FTBFS 
valide-0.6.1-0.22.20103003svn511.fc14 :: 
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=599873

635821 :: NEW :: anaconda :: anaconda-maint-l...@redhat.com :: 
Attempting to submit (scp or bugzilla) an exception report fails if 
networking not active :: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=635821

640271 :: NEW :: install-guide :: da...@gnsa.us :: Fedora 14 
installation guide references RHEL in examples :: 
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=640271

640309 :: NEW :: install-guide :: da...@gnsa.us :: F-14 installation 
guide documents unsupported 'telnet' method :: 
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=640309

635333 :: NEW :: libgdl :: debarshi@gmail.com :: libgdl needs to be 
downgraded to 2.30.x :: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=635333

584328 :: NEW :: anaconda :: dleh...@redhat.com :: AttributeError: 
'NoneType' object has no attribute 'name' :: 
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=584328

639985 :: NEW :: python :: dmalc...@redhat.com :: Firefox crashes with 
xulrunner-python installed :: 
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=639985

639393 :: NEW :: qtgpsc :: fab...@bernewireless.net :: Broken 
dependency: qtgpsc-0.2.3-6.fc12.x86_64 requires libgps.so.18()(64bit) :: 
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=639393

617284 :: NEW :: distribution :: jfor...@redhat.com :: Fedora 14 
Virtualization Target Blocker :: 
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=617284

639395 :: NEW :: intellij-idea :: lkund...@v3.sk :: Broken dependency: 
intellij-idea-9.0.1.94.399-11.fc14.x86_64 requires jna-examples :: 
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=639395

627388 :: NEW :: anaconda :: msi...@redhat.com :: VNC install ignores 
password :: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=627388

639391 :: NEW :: spacewalk-certs-tools :: msu...@redhat.com :: Broken 
dependency: spacewalk-certs-tools-1.1.1-2.1.fc14.noarch requires 
spacewalk-backend-libs = 0:0.8.28 :: 
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=639391

628528 :: NEW :: xorg-x11-server :: peter.hutte...@redhat.com :: 
Emulating middle button doesn't work anymore. :: 
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=628528

633298 :: NEW :: kde-settings :: rdie...@math.unl.edu :: Fedora 14 
Blocker KDE Tracker :: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=633298

629192 :: NEW :: pino :: rosset.fil...@gmail.com :: Twitter isn't 
functioning :: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=629192

528022 :: ASSIGNED :: vbetool :: a...@redhat.com :: setroubleshoot: 
  SELinux is preventing /usr/sbin/vbetool mmap_zero access on 
lt;Unknowngt;. :: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=528022

620635 :: ASSIGNED :: antlr3 :: xja...@fi.muni.cz :: antlr3 needs to be 
rebuilt against python 2.7 in F14 and devel :: 
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=620635

635778 :: MODIFIED :: anaconda :: b...@redhat.com :: IndexError: list 
index out of range :: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=635778

627789 :: MODIFIED :: anaconda :: b...@redhat.com :: Error setting up 
repository - 16, Device busy :: 
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=627789

637339 :: MODIFIED :: empathy :: bdpep...@gmail.com :: empathy 2.31.90-2 
blocked by SELinux :: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=637339

639730 :: MODIFIED :: empathy :: bdpep...@gmail.com :: Empathy fails to 
connect to Google Talk :: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=639730
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Re: Upcoming Fedora 14 Tasks

2010-10-05 Thread John Poelstra
Adam Williamson said the following on 10/04/2010 05:20 PM Pacific Time:
 On Sun, 2010-10-03 at 14:49 -0400, John Poelstra wrote:
 Start   End Name
 Tue 28-Sep  Mon 18-Oct  Beta Testing
 Thu 07-Oct  Wed 13-Oct  Pre-RC Acceptance Test Plan
 Fri 08-Oct  Fri 08-Oct  Final Blocker Meeting (f14blocker) #3
 Mon 11-Oct  Fri 15-Oct  Daily Review  Notification of Open Final
 Blocker Bugs
 Tue 12-Oct  Tue 19-Oct  Test 'Final' Test Compose
 Fri 15-Oct  Fri 15-Oct  Final Blocker Meeting (f14blocker) #4
 Mon 18-Oct  Mon 18-Oct  End of Beta Testing
 Mon 18-Oct  Mon 18-Oct  Final Blocker Meeting (f14blocker)--Blocks RC
 Compose

 How has schedule worked out for your team during Fedora 14?

 The schedule is only as good as the information I receive so if you've
 noticed things that would work better for Fedora 15, please add them to
 https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_14_Schedule_Retrospective

 I'm a bit confused that the TC hits on 12th but the change deadline
 (freeze) is the 18th. That means a lot of change can land between TC1
 and RC1 and make TC testing almost irrelevant...


This is the same approach we have taken for the Fedora 14 Alpha and 
Beta.  Feel free to add to the restrospective page if you think we 
should do this different in the future: 
https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_14_Schedule_Retrospective

John
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[Test-Announce] Fedora 14 Beta Declared GOLD

2010-09-22 Thread John Poelstra
At the Fedora 14 Beta Go/No-Go meeting today, the Fedora 14 Beta was 
declared GOLD and ready for release on September 28, 2010.

Thank you to everyone who made this on-time release possible!



===
#fedora-meeting: Fedora 14 Beta Go/No-Go Meeting Minutes and Logs
===


Meeting started by poelcat at 21:01:35 UTC. The full logs are available
at
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Meeting summary
---
* attendees rbergeron jsmith fenris02 SMParrish stickster jlaska adamw
   brunowolff  (poelcat, 21:03:17)
* http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Engineering_Readiness_Meetings
   (poelcat, 21:03:42)

* review of release criteria and open bugs  (poelcat, 21:05:24)
   * adamw and jlaska here for qa  (poelcat, 21:07:18)
   * SMParrish here for devel/FESCo  (poelcat, 21:07:28)
   * dgilmore representing releng  (poelcat, 21:07:38)
   * brunowolff is here for Spins SIG  (brunowolff, 21:08:00)
   * LINK:
 https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Test_Results:Fedora_14_Beta_RC3_Install
 --- install test matrix  (adamw, 21:08:11)
   * LINK:
 https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Test_Results:Fedora_14_Beta_RC3_Desktop
 --- desktop test matrix  (adamw, 21:08:25)
   * LINK:
 
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/showdependencytree.cgi?id=611991hide_resolved=1
 --- beta blocker list  (adamw, 21:08:49)
   * AGREED: 627789 is not a beta blocker  (adamw, 21:12:54)
   * IDEA: create release criteria asserting some level of functionality
 of livecd-tools  (jlaska, 21:13:03)
   * AGREED: move https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=627789 to
 f14blocker  (poelcat, 21:15:00)
   * LINK:
 https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Test_Results:Fedora_13_Final_RC3_Install
 (adamw, 21:19:50)
   * AGREED: publishing a documented updates.img with a fix for 635887 is
 an acceptable workaround, move 635887 to be a final blocker  (adamw,
 21:25:48)
   * AGREED: 542255 is not a regression, is of minor impact, and the
 question of non-default-spin bugs blocking releases requires further
 discussion and clarification, so we will not block the beta for this
 bug  (adamw, 21:45:26)
   * ACTION: there being no unresolved blocking issues or unmet release
 criteria, Fedora 14 Beta is declared GOLD  (poelcat, 21:55:34)

* open discussion  (poelcat, 21:55:37)

Meeting ended at 21:58:31 UTC.




Action Items

* there being no unresolved blocking issues or unmet release criteria,
   Fedora 14 Beta is declared GOLD




Action Items, by person
---
* **UNASSIGNED**
   * there being no unresolved blocking issues or unmet release criteria,
 Fedora 14 Beta is declared GOLD




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[Test-Announce] Fedora 14 Beta Go/No-Go Meeting Wednesday, September 22, 2010 @ 21:00 UTC

2010-09-21 Thread John Poelstra
Join us on irc.freenode.net #fedora-meeting for this important meeting.

Wednesday, September 22, 2010 @ 21:00 UTC (17:00 EDT/14:00 PDT)

Before each public release Development, QA, and Release Engineering 
meet to determine if the release criteria are met for a particular 
release. This meeting is called the: Go/No-Go Meeting.

Verifying that the Release criteria are met is the responsibility of 
the QA Team.

For more details about this meeting see: 
https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Go_No_Go_Meeting

In the meantime keep an eye on the Fedora 14 Beta Blocker list and help 
us get the testing matrix completed by testing.

https://bugzilla.redhat.com/showdependencytree.cgi?id=F14Betahide_resolved=1
http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Category:Fedora_14_Beta_RC_Test_Results

John

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2010-09-20 Thread John Poelstra

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Fedora 14 Blocker Bug Meeting Recap 2010-09-14

2010-09-14 Thread John Poelstra
A last minute blocker bug meeting was held in #fedora-bugzappers to 
review the state of the open Fedora 14 Beta Blocker bugs.  In order to 
create the Fedora 14 Beta Release Candidate on Thursday (2010-09-16), 
test, and release on time, this list MUST be empty by 2010-09-15 
(tomorrow)!


https://bugzilla.redhat.com/showdependencytree.cgi?id=611991hide_resolved=1

YOU can help by re-testing bugs in MODIFIED or helping to debug bugs yet 
to be fixed.


==
#fedora-bugzappers: interim beta blocker bug review meeting 2010-09-14
==


Meeting started by adamw at 18:05:56 UTC. The full logs are available at
http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-bugzappers/2010-09-14/fedora-bugzappers.2010-09-14-18.05.log.html
.



Meeting summary
---
* intro  (adamw, 18:06:07)

* https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=608992  (adamw, 18:07:23)
   * AGREED: 633827 adamw will test bcl's proposed fix and feed back to
 him  (adamw, 18:13:53)
   * ACTION: adamw to test bcl fix for 633827  (adamw, 18:14:04)

* https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=621027  (adamw, 18:14:49)
   * AGREED: 621027 fix is in but problem with live image bootloader
 background, jlaska to test potential fix from mizmo  (adamw,
 18:19:08)
   * ACTION: jlaska to test 621027 fixes from mizmo  (adamw, 18:19:16)

* https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=622927  (adamw, 18:21:12)
   * AGREED: 622927 ask tester to verify fix in TC1 and close the bug
 (adamw, 18:24:01)

* https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=627014  (adamw, 18:24:33)
   * AGREED: 627014 looks like major issues are fixed, we can drop it
 from blocker list or close it when 10-1+ is accepted  (adamw,
 18:30:15)

* https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=627401  (adamw, 18:30:32)
   * AGREED: 627401 is fixed in anaconda 14.17.1-1, anaconda team need to
 submit that or a later build to bodhi  (adamw, 18:34:02)

* https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=628239  (adamw, 18:34:26)
   * AGREED: 628239 does not appear to be valid as described, waiting on
 more info from reporter, but unless we learn something new, looks
 like this isn't a blocker  (adamw, 18:38:34)

* https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=628241  (adamw, 18:39:38)
   * LINK: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/firstboot-1.113-1.fc14
 - i posted a comment asking mgracik to push it  (adamw, 18:41:31)
   * AGREED: 628241 is fixed in firstboot-1.113-1, needs to be pushed
 stable  (adamw, 18:44:17)
   * ACTION: mgracik or notting to push firstboot-1.113-1 stable  (adamw,
 18:44:30)

* https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=629719  (adamw, 18:44:40)
   * AGREED: 629719: we suspect reporter malfeasance, plan is to try and
 replicate in office, send out ml call to see if anyone else can, and
 ask reporter to try once more; if we get no more info on this bug
 will demote it  (adamw, 19:06:20)
   * ACTION: adamw or jlaska to send out ml testing call for 629719
 (adamw, 19:06:33)

* https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=630490  (adamw, 19:07:00)
   * AGREED: 630490 testing indicates this is fixed in systemd-10, can be
 closed when that goes stable  (adamw, 19:09:50)

* https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=630952  (adamw, 19:10:32)
   * AGREED: testing indicates 630952 fix is good, bug can be closed when
 systemd/initscripts update goes stable  (adamw, 19:12:35)

* https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=631620  (adamw, 19:12:58)
   * AGREED: 631620 fix looks good in all important respects, can be
 closed when hal update is pushed  (adamw, 19:18:26)

* https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=632321  (adamw, 19:18:45)
   * AGREED: 632321 is fixed in systemd 10, can be closed when it goes
 stable  (adamw, 19:29:40)

* https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=632489  (adamw, 19:29:51)
   * AGREED: 632489 fix has been tested in updates.img, next anaconda
 build will include it  (adamw, 19:32:20)

* https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=632510  (adamw, 19:32:40)
   * AGREED: 632510 fix is in, needs a new build to test it; can either
 be a quick test boot.iso or we can test it in rc1  (adamw, 19:37:56)

* https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=633234  (adamw, 19:38:05)
   * AGREED: 633234 is a blocker, top priority for anaconda team, it
 seems reproducible by at least two testers  (adamw, 19:47:29)
   * ACTION: anaconda team to try and investigate and fix 633234  (adamw,
 19:47:37)

* https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=633315  (adamw, 19:48:19)
   * AGREED: 633315 doesn't seem like a blocker, we will reject it for
 now and ask radek to re-propose if he has a reason for it to be one
 (adamw, 20:02:24)

* https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=633523  (adamw, 20:06:45)
   * AGREED: 633523 is an accepted blocker, we cc 

Re: Fedora 14 Beta Blocker Meeting :: Friday, 2010-09-10 @ 16:00 UTC (12 PM EDT)

2010-09-13 Thread John Poelstra
John Poelstra said the following on 09/09/2010 05:19 PM Pacific Time:
 When: Friday, 2010-09-10 @ 16:00 UTC (12 PM EDT)
 Where: #fedora-bugzappers on irc.freenode.net

 Without these bugs fixed we can't compose the Fedora 14 Beta Release
 Candidate on 2010-09-16.



==
#fedora-bugzappers: Fedora 14 Beta Blocker Meeting
==


Meeting started by poelcat at 16:02:33 UTC. The full logs are available
at
http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-bugzappers/2010-09-10/fedora-bugzappers.2010-09-10-16.02.log.html
.



Meeting summary
---
* roll call  (poelcat, 16:02:51)
   * attendees nirik adamw jlaska poelcat jsmith  (poelcat, 16:05:37)

* https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=608992  (poelcat,
   16:05:45)
   * ACTION: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=608992 waiting
 for a new build, needs to happen soon  (poelcat, 16:07:25)

* https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=621027  (poelcat,
   16:07:34)
   * ACTION: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=621027 asking
 mizmo to update the bug and remind design team of change deadline on
 2010-09-14  (poelcat, 16:12:53)

* https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=628239  (poelcat,
   16:13:08)
   * ACTION: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=628239 need to
 continue debugging before we can figure out where it needs to be
 fixed  (poelcat, 16:20:05)

* https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=629719  (poelcat,
   16:20:22)
   * ACTION: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=629719
 attempting to reproduce. If we cannot do so with TC1 testing will
 close INSUFFICIENT_DATA  (poelcat, 16:28:36)

* https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=630490  (poelcat,
   16:28:41)
   * ACTION: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=630490 fix is in
 hand, maintainer expects to build new package tonight  (poelcat,
 16:45:36)

* https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=630781  (poelcat,
   16:45:48)
   * ACTION: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=630781 really
 need more information from reporter; if no further information or
 similiar reports by next week, will consider dropping  (poelcat,
 16:53:24)

* https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=631620  (poelcat,
   16:53:32)
   * ACTION: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=631620 fix and
 new packages anticipated this weekend, needs testing by kde, xfce
 and other desktops depending on HAL  (poelcat, 17:05:05)

* https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=632489  (poelcat,
   17:05:25)
   * ACTION: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=632489 accepted
 as a blocker, fixed needed no later than 2010-09-14  (poelcat,
 17:14:11)

* https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=632510  (poelcat,
   17:14:18)
   * ACTION: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=632510 accepted
 blocker; need to ammend blocker criteria to be more specific, devel
 believes it's an easy fix they expect to make soon  (poelcat,
 17:25:40)

* open discussion  (poelcat, 17:25:44)
   * ACTION: jlaska to propose adjusting beta release criteria to
 accomodate rescue-mode + networking (see 632510)  (jlaska, 17:26:18)

Meeting ended at 17:31:28 UTC.




Action Items

* https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=608992 waiting for a new
   build, needs to happen soon
* https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=621027 asking mizmo to
   update the bug and remind design team of change deadline on 2010-09-14
* https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=628239 need to continue
   debugging before we can figure out where it needs to be fixed
* https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=629719 attempting to
   reproduce. If we cannot do so with TC1 testing will close
   INSUFFICIENT_DATA
* https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=630490 fix is in hand,
   maintainer expects to build new package tonight
* https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=630781 really need more
   information from reporter; if no further information or similiar
   reports by next week, will consider dropping
* https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=631620 fix and new
   packages anticipated this weekend, needs testing by kde, xfce and
   other desktops depending on HAL
* https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=632489 accepted as a
   blocker, fixed needed no later than 2010-09-14
* https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=632510 accepted blocker;
   need to ammend blocker criteria to be more specific, devel believes
   it's an easy fix they expect to make soon
* jlaska to propose adjusting beta release criteria to accomodate
   rescue-mode + networking (see 632510)




Action Items, by person
---
* jlaska
   * jlaska to propose adjusting beta release criteria to accomodate
 rescue-mode + networking (see 632510)
* **UNASSIGNED**
   * https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id

Re: Which bugzilla component?

2010-09-09 Thread John Poelstra
Richard Hughes said the following on 09/08/2010 12:13 PM Pacific Time:
 On 8 September 2010 18:07, John Poelstrapoels...@redhat.com  wrote:
   * Cancelling.. The transaction failed: internal-error, The backend
 exited unexpectedly. This is a serious error as the spawned backend did
 not complete the pending transaction.

 This is bad, both from a your system perspective, and from a
 PackageKit reporting errors to the user perspective. File a bug
 against PackageKit-command-not-found and we can debug there.

 Richard.

I can't reproduce this any more.  Still worth reporting?

John
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[Test-Announce] Fedora 14 Beta Blocker Meeting :: Friday, 2010-09-10 @ 16:00 UTC (12 PM EDT)

2010-09-09 Thread John Poelstra
When: Friday, 2010-09-10 @ 16:00 UTC (12 PM EDT)
Where: #fedora-bugzappers on irc.freenode.net

Without these bugs fixed we can't compose the Fedora 14 Beta Release 
Candidate on 2010-09-16.

We'll be discussing these bugs to determine if they meet the criteria, 
should stay on the list, and are getting the attention they need:

629719 :: NEW :: anaconda :: Anaconda Maintenance Team :: 
FormatCreateError: ('invalid device specification', '/dev/md127p3') :: 
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=629719

628239 :: NEW :: anaconda :: Anaconda Maintenance Team :: Fedora 14 
Alpha reduced graphics creates vesa-using xorg.conf but doesn't 
blacklist nouveau :: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=628239

608992 :: NEW :: livecd-tools :: David Huff :: Add Boot system with 
basic video driver option at the initial screen :: 
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=608992

630781 :: NEW :: systemd :: Kernel Maintainer List :: systemd hangs on 
Clocksource tsc unstable error and causes the system to freeze after 
cpu-scaling detection :: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=630781

630490 :: NEW :: systemd :: Lennart Poettering :: disabled units still 
get bus activated :: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=630490

631620 :: NEW :: systemd :: Lennart Poettering :: ordering cycles exist 
(+ breaking them deletes wrong services) :: 
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=631620

621027 :: NEW :: fedora-logos :: Tom spot Callaway :: Graphical screen 
in anaconda shows F-13 :: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=621027

If you are the owner of any of these bugs, kindly update the comments 
with your feedback as to whether you believe it is a blocker and what 
your plans for fixing the bug are.

Do you have an issue you believe should be fixed before the Fedora 14 
Beta ships?  Please consider the following criteria when escalating an 
issue: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_14_Beta_Release_Criteria

John

The command used to generate the list of bugs above is:
$ bugzilla query --blocked=611991 \
 
--bug_status=NEW,ASSIGNED,NEEDINFO,ON_DEV,MODIFIED,POST,ON_QA,FAILS_QA,PASSES_QA,REOPENED,VERIFIED,RELEASE_PENDING
 
\
 --outputformat=%{bug_id} :: %{bug_status} :: %{component} :: 
%{assigned_to} :: %{summary} :: %{url}

NOTE: It this command doesn't work on Fedora 14.
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Upcoming Fedora 14 Tasks

2010-09-07 Thread John Poelstra
Start   End Name
Tue 24-Aug  Tue 14-Sep  Alpha Testing
Thu 02-Sep  Thu 09-Sep  Pre-Beta Acceptance Test Plan
Mon 06-Sep  Fri 10-Sep  Daily Review  Notification of Open Beta Blocker 
Bugs
Thu 09-Sep  Wed 15-Sep  Test Beta 'Test Compose'
Fri 10-Sep  Fri 10-Sep  Beta Blocker Meeting (f14beta) #3
Tue 14-Sep  Tue 14-Sep  Features 100% Complete Deadline
Tue 14-Sep  Tue 14-Sep  End of Alpha Testing
Tue 14-Sep  Tue 14-Sep  Beta Change Deadline
Thu 16-Sep  Thu 23-Sep  Test Beta Candidate
Fri 17-Sep  Fri 17-Sep  Beta Blocker Meeting (f14beta) #4

Have you found something that is working really well in your schedule?
Or maybe you've found something you believe would work better in the 
future?

Update the schedule retrospective page now to capture all of the 
important details as they happen: 
https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_14_Schedule_Retrospective
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Re: Fedora 14 Blocker Bug Review Meeting 2010-09-03 @ 16:00 UTC (12 PM EST)

2010-09-03 Thread John Poelstra
John Poelstra said the following on 09/02/2010 03:51 PM Pacific Time:
 When: Friday, 2010-09-03 @ 16:00 UTC (12 PM EST)
 Where: #fedora-bugzappers on irc.freenode.net

 Here are the current bugs listed as blocking the Beta release. We'll be
 discussing all of these to determine if they meet the criteria, should
 stay on the list, and are getting the attention they need:

 629719 :: NEW :: anaconda :: Anaconda Maintenance Team ::
 FormatCreateError: ('invalid device specification', '/dev/md127p3') ::
 https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=629719

 623524 :: NEW :: anaconda :: Anaconda Maintenance Team :: Err during
 filesystem check after upgrading bootloader ::
 https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=623524

 624971 :: NEW :: anaconda :: Anaconda Maintenance Team :: Kernel
 argument with UUID= is not honored ::
 https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=624971

 628239 :: NEW :: anaconda :: Anaconda Maintenance Team :: Fedora 14
 Alpha reduced graphics creates vesa-using xorg.conf but doesn't
 blacklist nouveau :: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=628239

 618504 :: NEW :: xmlrpc-c :: Enrico Scholz :: Cannot submit abrt bugs ::
 https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=618504

 621027 :: NEW :: fedora-logos :: Tom spot Callaway :: Graphical screen
 in anaconda shows F-13 :: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=621027

 565323 :: ASSIGNED :: selinux-policy :: Daniel Walsh :: SELinux is
 preventing /usr/bin/python write access  on sysctl.conf. ::
 https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=565323

 622927 :: MODIFIED :: anaconda :: Radek Vykydal :: F14 Alpha RC2 -
 /etc/resolv.conf gets corrupted, cannot download packages ::
 https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=622927



Meeting summary
---
* attendees: jlaska adamw skvidal poelcat  (poelcat, 16:03:16)
* https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=621825  (poelcat,
   16:03:39)

* https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=565323  (poelcat,
   16:05:49)
   * AGREED: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=565323 move to
 f14target because it does not meet explicit blocker criteria
 (poelcat, 16:15:52)

* https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=618504  (poelcat,
   16:16:10)
   * ACTION: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=618504 no
 feedback from reporter, wait one more week and drop at next meeting
 if no feedback  (poelcat, 16:21:08)

* https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=621027  (poelcat,
   16:21:19)
   * AGREED: tentatively accept #621027 as a beta blocker under mizmo's
 outlined plan  (adamw, 16:32:23)
   * ACTION: jlaska to draft release criteria based on mizmo's outline
 (adamw, 16:32:34)

* https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=623524  (poelcat,
   16:33:33)
   * ACTION: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=623524
 conintuing to wait for more info  (poelcat, 16:38:00)

* https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=624971  (poelcat,
   16:38:12)
   * LINK: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/anaconda-14.17-1.fc14
 (jlaska, 16:39:01)
   * ACTION: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=624971 accepted
 blocker hopefully resolved by new package  (poelcat, 16:40:55)

* https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=627401  (poelcat,
   16:41:08)
   * AGREED: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=627401 definite
 blocker, added as accepted blocker  (poelcat, 16:47:07)

* https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=628239  (poelcat,
   16:47:16)
   * ACTION: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=628239 propose
 update to criteria and then re-evaluate bug in light of critiera at
 next meeting  (poelcat, 16:53:09)

* https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=629719  (poelcat,
   16:53:22)
   * ACTION: adamw to update alpha criterion covering  vesa driver to
 cover installed system as well as installer  (adamw, 16:54:24)
   * ACTION: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=629719 accept as
 blocker  (poelcat, 16:56:09)


Minutes: 
http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-bugzappers/2010-09-03/fedora-bugzappers.2010-09-03-16.00.html
Minutes (text): 
http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-bugzappers/2010-09-03/fedora-bugzappers.2010-09-03-16.00.txt
Log: 
http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-bugzappers/2010-09-03/fedora-bugzappers.2010-09-03-16.00.log.html



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[Test-Announce] Fedora 14 Blocker Bug Review Meeting 2010-09-02 @ 16:00 UTC (12 PM EST)

2010-09-02 Thread John Poelstra


When: Friday, 2010-09-02 @ 16:00 UTC (12 PM EST)
Where: #fedora-bugzappers on irc.freenode.net

Here are the current bugs listed as blocking the Beta release. We'll be 
discussing all of these to determine if they meet the criteria, should 
stay on the list, and are getting the attention they need:

629719 :: NEW :: anaconda :: Anaconda Maintenance Team :: 
FormatCreateError: ('invalid device specification', '/dev/md127p3') :: 
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=629719

623524 :: NEW :: anaconda :: Anaconda Maintenance Team :: Err during 
filesystem check after upgrading bootloader :: 
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=623524

624971 :: NEW :: anaconda :: Anaconda Maintenance Team :: Kernel 
argument with UUID= is not honored :: 
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=624971

628239 :: NEW :: anaconda :: Anaconda Maintenance Team :: Fedora 14 
Alpha reduced graphics creates vesa-using xorg.conf but doesn't 
blacklist nouveau :: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=628239

618504 :: NEW :: xmlrpc-c :: Enrico Scholz :: Cannot submit abrt bugs :: 
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=618504

621027 :: NEW :: fedora-logos :: Tom spot Callaway :: Graphical screen 
in anaconda shows F-13 :: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=621027

565323 :: ASSIGNED :: selinux-policy :: Daniel Walsh :: SELinux is 
preventing /usr/bin/python write access  on sysctl.conf. :: 
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=565323

622927 :: MODIFIED :: anaconda :: Radek Vykydal :: F14 Alpha RC2 - 
/etc/resolv.conf gets corrupted, cannot download packages :: 
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=622927


If you are the owner of any of these bugs, kindly update the comments 
with your feedback as to whether you believe it is a blocker and what 
your plans for fixing the bug are.

Do you have an issue you believe should be fixed before the Fedora 14 
Beta ships?  Please consider the following criteria when escalating an 
issue: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_14_Beta_Release_Criteria

Hope to see everyone tomorrow.

John

The command used to generate the list of bugs above is:

$ bugzilla query --blocked=611991 \
 
--bug_status=NEW,ASSIGNED,NEEDINFO,ON_DEV,MODIFIED,POST,ON_QA,FAILS_QA,PASSES_QA,REOPENED,VERIFIED,RELEASE_PENDING
 
\
 --outputformat=%{bug_id} :: %{bug_status} :: %{component} :: 
%{assigned_to} :: %{summary} :: %{url}
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Re: [Test-Announce] Fedora 14 Blocker Bug Review Meeting 2010-09-03 @ 16:00 UTC (12 PM EST)

2010-09-02 Thread John Poelstra
CORRECTION Friday, 2010-09-03


 When: Friday, 2010-09-02 @ 16:00 UTC (12 PM EST)
 Where: #fedora-bugzappers on irc.freenode.net

 Here are the current bugs listed as blocking the Beta release. We'll be
 discussing all of these to determine if they meet the criteria, should
 stay on the list, and are getting the attention they need:

 629719 :: NEW :: anaconda :: Anaconda Maintenance Team ::
 FormatCreateError: ('invalid device specification', '/dev/md127p3') ::
 https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=629719

 623524 :: NEW :: anaconda :: Anaconda Maintenance Team :: Err during
 filesystem check after upgrading bootloader ::
 https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=623524

 624971 :: NEW :: anaconda :: Anaconda Maintenance Team :: Kernel
 argument with UUID= is not honored ::
 https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=624971

 628239 :: NEW :: anaconda :: Anaconda Maintenance Team :: Fedora 14
 Alpha reduced graphics creates vesa-using xorg.conf but doesn't
 blacklist nouveau :: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=628239

 618504 :: NEW :: xmlrpc-c :: Enrico Scholz :: Cannot submit abrt bugs ::
 https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=618504

 621027 :: NEW :: fedora-logos :: Tom spot Callaway :: Graphical screen
 in anaconda shows F-13 :: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=621027

 565323 :: ASSIGNED :: selinux-policy :: Daniel Walsh :: SELinux is
 preventing /usr/bin/python write access  on sysctl.conf. ::
 https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=565323

 622927 :: MODIFIED :: anaconda :: Radek Vykydal :: F14 Alpha RC2 -
 /etc/resolv.conf gets corrupted, cannot download packages ::
 https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=622927


 If you are the owner of any of these bugs, kindly update the comments
 with your feedback as to whether you believe it is a blocker and what
 your plans for fixing the bug are.

 Do you have an issue you believe should be fixed before the Fedora 14
 Beta ships?  Please consider the following criteria when escalating an
 issue: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_14_Beta_Release_Criteria

 Hope to see everyone tomorrow.

 John

 The command used to generate the list of bugs above is:

 $ bugzilla query --blocked=611991 \

 --bug_status=NEW,ASSIGNED,NEEDINFO,ON_DEV,MODIFIED,POST,ON_QA,FAILS_QA,PASSES_QA,REOPENED,VERIFIED,RELEASE_PENDING
 \
   --outputformat=%{bug_id} :: %{bug_status} :: %{component} ::
 %{assigned_to} :: %{summary} :: %{url}

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2010-08-30 Thread John Poelstra
Start   End Name
Tue 24-Aug  Tue 14-Sep  Alpha Testing
Thu 02-Sep  Thu 09-Sep  Pre-Beta Acceptance Test Plan
Fri 03-Sep  Fri 03-Sep  Beta Blocker Meeting (f14beta) #2
Mon 06-Sep  Fri 10-Sep  Daily Review  Notification of Open Beta Blocker 
Bugs
Thu 09-Sep  Wed 15-Sep  Test Beta 'Test Compose'
Fri 10-Sep  Fri 10-Sep  Beta Blocker Meeting (f14beta) #3
Tue 14-Sep  Tue 14-Sep  Features 100% Complete Deadline
Tue 14-Sep  Tue 14-Sep  End of Alpha Testing
Tue 14-Sep  Tue 14-Sep  Beta Change Deadline
Thu 16-Sep  Thu 23-Sep  Test Beta Candidate

Have you found something that is working really well in your schedule?
Or maybe you've found something you believe would work better in the 
future?

Update the schedule retrospective page now to capture all of the 
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[Test-Announce] Fedora 14 Alpha Go/No-Go Meeting August 19, 2010 @ 12:00 AM UTC

2010-08-17 Thread John Poelstra
Join us on irc.freenode.net #fedora-meeting for this important meeting.

Thursday, August 19, 2010, @ 12:00 AM UTC ( *20:00 EDT/17:00 PDT-- 
Wednesday, August 18, 2010* )

Before each public release Development, QA, and Release Engineering 
meet to determine if the release criteria are met for a particular 
release. This meeting is called the: Go/No-Go Meeting.

Verifying that the Release criteria are met is the responsibility of 
the QA Team.

For more details about this meeting see: 
https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Go_No_Go_Meeting

In the meantime keep an eye on the Fedora 14 Alpha Blocker list (which 
is currently EMPTY!)
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/showdependencytree.cgi?id=611990hide_resolved=1 

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2010-08-16 Thread John Poelstra
Start   End Name
Thu 12-Aug  Thu 19-Aug  Test Alpha Candidate
Thu 12-Aug  Fri 20-Aug  Prepare Alpha Release Notes (1 page)
Wed 18-Aug  Wed 18-Aug  Fedora 14 Alpha Go/No-Go Meeting (17:00 EST)
Tue 24-Aug  Tue 24-Aug  Alpha Public Availability
Tue 24-Aug  Wed 25-Aug  NVR Update Check testing
Tue 24-Aug  Tue 14-Sep  Alpha Testing
Fri 27-Aug  Fri 27-Aug  Beta Blocker Meeting (f14beta) #1

This schedule reflects the delay of the Fedora 14 Alpha Release by one 
week and extension of the remaining dates on the schedule.  Please let 
me know if any of the dates look wrong or do not reflect the wishes of 
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Fedora 14 Blocker Bug Review Meeting 2010-08-13 @ 16:00 UTC (12 PM EST)

2010-08-12 Thread John Poelstra
Subject: Fedora 14 Blocker Bug Review Meeting 2010-08-13 @ 16:00 UTC (12 
PM EST)

When: Friday, 2010-08-13 @ 16:00 UTC (12 PM EST)
Where: #fedora-bugzappers on irc.freenode.net

Here are the current bugs listed as blocking the Alpha release. We'll be 
discussing all of these to determine if they meet the criteria, should 
stay on the list, and are getting the attention they need:

596985 :: NEW :: xorg-x11-drv-ati :: Jerome Glisse :: hang at start of 
X11 on fresh install from DVD :: 
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=596985

We will also start looking at the Beta blocker bugs as we change our 
mindframe to start focusing on the criteria for the beta:

623126 :: NEW :: anaconda :: Anaconda Maintenance Team :: F14 Alpha RC3 
CD install fails :: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=623126
618504 :: NEW :: xmlrpc-c :: Enrico Scholz :: Can not submit abrt bugs 
:: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=618504
621027 :: NEW :: fedora-logos :: Tom spot Callaway :: Graphical screen 
in anaconda shows F-13 :: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=621027
615386 :: ASSIGNED :: autofs :: Ian Kent :: automount[3035]: 
open_lookup:90: cannot open lookup module ldap 
(/usr/lib64/autofs/lookup_ldap.so: undefined symbol: 
krb5_get_init_creds_keytab) :: 
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=615386
623257 :: ASSIGNED :: polkit-gnome :: David Zeuthen :: Authentication 
agent does not work :: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=623257
621685 :: MODIFIED :: anaconda :: Brian C. Lane :: TypeError: sequence 
item 0: expected string, NoneType found :: 
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=621685

If you are the owner of any of these bugs, kindly update the comments 
with your feedback as to whether you believe it is a blocker and what 
your plans for fixing the bug are.

Do you have an issue you believe should be fixed before the Fedora 14 
Beta ships?  Please consider the following criteria when escalating an 
issue: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_14_Beta_Release_Criteria

Hope to see everyone tomorrow.

John

The command used to generate the list of bugs above is:

$ bugzilla query --blocked=611991 \
 
--bug_status=NEW,ASSIGNED,NEEDINFO,ON_DEV,MODIFIED,POST,ON_QA,FAILS_QA,PASSES_QA,REOPENED,VERIFIED,RELEASE_PENDING
 
\
 --outputformat=%{bug_id} :: %{bug_status} :: %{component} :: 
%{assigned_to} :: %{summary} :: %{url}
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[Test-Announce] Reminder: Bugzilla UPGRADE to 3.6 on August 13th 9:00 p.m.EDT [01:00 UTC]

2010-08-11 Thread John Poelstra
Sending on behalf of Dave Lawrence.  This will affect Fedora too.

REMINDER: Red Hat Bugzilla (bugzilla.redhat.com) will be unavailable on 
August 13th starting at 9:00 p.m. EDT [01:00 UTC] to perform
an upgrade from Bugzilla 3.4 to Bugzilla 3.6. We are hoping to be 
complete in no more than 5 hours barring any problems. Any
services relying on bugzilla.redhat.com may not work properly during 
this time. Please be aware in case you need use of those
services during the outage.

Also *PLEASE* make sure any scripts or other external applications that 
rely on bugzilla.redhat.com are tested against our test
server before the upgrade if you have not done so already (see original 
email below). Let the Bugzilla Team know immediately of any
issues found by reporting the bug in bugzilla.redhat.com against the 
Bugzilla product, version 3.6.

---

Greetings,

The Red Hat Bugzilla team is happy to announce another public beta 
release of the next version of Red Hat Bugzilla based on the
upstream 3.6 code base.

Please test drive at:

https://partner-bugzilla.redhat.com

Over the years Red Hat has made substantial customizations to Bugzilla 
to fit into the Engineering
tool chain. Over time the upstream has incorporated some of these 
customizations or solved them in different ways. Upgrading reduces
our customization footprint (and thus maintenance) while bringing many 
bug fixes  enhancements.

The main area of focus for our public betas is stability. Functionality 
that currently works in our 3.4 code base should continue to
work as expected in the new 3.6 release. These include various ajax 
optimizations, needinfo actor support, frontpage.cgi, product
browser, several various UI enhancements, and of course the XMLRPC API.

Please feel free to point your various scripts and third party 
applications that use the XMLRPC API at the test server to make sure
they continue to function properly.

There are numerous other changes behind the scenes that we haven't 
listed. The goal is to make sure that functionality that people
have come to expect in 3.4 is possible in the new system.

There are also numerous new features/fixes that are part of the upstream 
3.6 release. For more detailed information on what has
changed since the last release, check out the release notes page at
https://partner-bugzilla.redhat.com/page.cgi?id=release-notes.html .

The database is a recent snapshot of the live database so should be 
useful for testing to make sure the information is displayed
properly and changeable. Also with a full snapshot it is possible to 
test for any performance related issues. Email has been
disabled so that unnecessary spam is not sent out. So
feel free to make changes to bugs to verify proper working order.

We are asking for everyone to get involved as much as possible with 
testing and feedback on the beta releases to help us make this
the most robust and stable release possible.

Please file any enhancement requests or bug reports in our current 
Bugzilla system at https://bugzilla.redhat.com . File them under
the Bugzilla product and relevant component with the version 3.6. With 
everyone's help we can make this a great release.

Thanks
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[Test-Announce] Fedora 14 Alpha Go/No-Go Meeting August 12, 2010 @ 12:00 AM UTC

2010-08-10 Thread John Poelstra
Join us on irc.freenode.net #fedora-meeting for this important meeting.

Thursday, August 12, 2010, @ 12:00 AM UTC ( *20:00 EDT/17:00 PDT, 
Wednesday, August 11, 2010* )

Before each public release Development, QA, and Release Engineering 
meet to determine if the release criteria are met for a particular 
release. This meeting is called the: Go/No-Go Meeting.

Verifying that the Release criteria are met is the responsibility of 
the QA Team.

For more details about this meeting see: 
https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Go_No_Go_Meeting

In the meantime keep an eye on the Fedora 14 Alpha Blocker list and help 
us test!

https://bugzilla.redhat.com/showdependencytree.cgi?id=611990hide_resolved=1

http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Category:Fedora_14_Alpha_RC_Test_Results

John
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Upcoming Fedora 14 Tasks

2010-08-09 Thread John Poelstra
Start   End Name
Thu 05-Aug  Thu 12-Aug  Test Alpha Candidate
Tue 10-Aug  Tue 10-Aug  Start Alpha Beat and Feature Page Review
Tue 10-Aug  Thu 12-Aug  Comb Beats and Feature Pages for Alpha
Wed 11-Aug  Wed 11-Aug  Fedora 14 Alpha Go/No-Go Meeting (17:00 EST)
Thu 12-Aug  Thu 12-Aug  Fedora 14 Alpha Release Readiness Meeting
Thu 12-Aug  Fri 13-Aug  Prepare Alpha Release Notes (1 page)
Tue 17-Aug  Tue 17-Aug  Alpha Public Availability
Tue 17-Aug  Wed 18-Aug  NVR Update Check testing
Tue 17-Aug  Tue 07-Sep  Alpha Testing
Fri 20-Aug  Fri 20-Aug  Beta Blocker Meeting (f14beta) #1
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Fedora 14 Alpha Blocker Bug Review Meeting 2010-08-06 @ 16:00 UTC (12 PM EST/9 AM PST)

2010-08-05 Thread John Poelstra
Meeting at our regular time and location!

When: 16:00 UTC (12 PM EST/9 AM PST)
Where: irc.freenode.net #fedora-bugzappers

Please join us.  Here are the bugs we'll look at and discuss:

621102 :: NEW :: udev :: Harald Hoyer :: The installer doesn't use 
packages repository in DVD as default :: 
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=621102


621200 :: ASSIGNED :: systemd :: Lennart Poettering :: [abrt] 
systemd-units-5-2.fc15: selabel_lookup_common: Process /bin/systemctl 
was killed by signal 11 (SIGSEGV) :: 
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=621200


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2010-08-02 Thread John Poelstra
Start   End Name
Thu 29-Jul  Wed 04-Aug  Test Alpha 'Test Compose'
Tue 03-Aug  Tue 03-Aug  Alpha Change Deadline
Thu 05-Aug  Thu 12-Aug  Test Alpha Candidate
Fri 06-Aug  Fri 06-Aug  Alpha Blocker Meeting (f14alpha) #4
Tue 10-Aug  Tue 10-Aug  Start Alpha Beat and Feature Page Review
Tue 10-Aug  Thu 12-Aug  Comb Beats and Feature Pages for Alpha
Wed 11-Aug  Wed 11-Aug  Fedora 14 Alpha Go/No-Go Meeting (17:00 EST)
Thu 12-Aug  Thu 12-Aug  Fedora 14 Alpha Release Readiness Meeting
Thu 12-Aug  Fri 13-Aug  Prepare Alpha Release Notes (1 page)
Tue 17-Aug  Tue 17-Aug  Alpha Public Availability
Tue 17-Aug  Wed 18-Aug  NVR Update Check testing
Tue 17-Aug  Tue 07-Sep  Alpha Testing

Have you found something that is working really well in your schedule?
Or maybe you've found something you believe would work better in the 
future?

Update the schedule retrospective page now to capture all of the 
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Re: Requesting ACKs for Rawhide Rebase procedure

2010-07-30 Thread John Poelstra
Jeff Raber said the following on 07/29/2010 08:53 PM Pacific Time:
 On 07/22/2010 12:07 PM, John Poelstra wrote:
 As announced last week on the development list, all Fedora bugs with a
 version of rawhide (with some exceptions) will be rebased to version
 14 on the Fedora 14 branching date (currently scheduled for 2010-07-27).
 http://lists.fedoraproject.org/pipermail/devel-announce/2010-July/000637.html

 I would appreciate it if a couple of people would sanity check the query
 to select these bugs and all the other information here:

 https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/BugZappers/HouseKeeping/Fedora14#Rawhide_Rebase

 Thanks,
 John
 ACK'd.

 I reviewed the query.  You may add me to the list of people to blame if
 something goes wrong.

 -Jeff



Thanks.  The process has run and is completed.

There may have been a slight timing difference because of the delays 
with converting to git, etc.  whereby some rawhide bugs did not move to 
version '14'.  If they were considered blockers, hopefully they were 
labeled as such and thus we're still tracking them.

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State of the Fedora 14 Alpha Blockers + Meeting summary

2010-07-30 Thread John Poelstra
REMINDER: This list must be clear by Tuesday (2010-08-03) to compose the 
Fedora 14 Alpha Release Candidate on Thursday (2010-08-05).  If blocker 
bugs remain open our chances of release on time decrease rapidly.

Here's the latest!

615443 :: NEW :: livecd-tools :: Bruno Wolff III :: booting live images 
from nightly fails (can't mount root filesystem) :: 
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=615443

597858 :: NEW :: firefox :: Gecko Maintainer :: SELinux is preventing 
firefox from making its memory writable and executable. crashes rawhide 
firefox start :: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=597858

619238 :: NEW :: selinux-policy :: Daniel Walsh :: can't login to normal 
rawhide install :: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=619238

618791 :: NEW :: totem :: Bastien Nocera :: totem does not build against 
libpeas-devel-0.5.3-2.fc14: missing symbols: 
peas_plugin_info_{s|g}et_visible :: 
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=618791

619913 :: NEW :: python :: Dave Malcolm :: Tracker: packages requiring 
rebuild for python 2.7 :: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=619913

618504 :: NEW :: xmlrpc-c :: Enrico Scholz :: Can not submit abrt bugs 
:: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=618504

619889 :: NEW :: systemd :: Lennart Poettering :: X.org pegged at 100% 
CPU usage after booting with systemd :: 
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=619889

617115 :: ON_QA :: livecd-tools :: David Huff :: rawhide live spins 
showing black screen instead of syslinux boot menu :: 
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=617115


We had a great meeting today, the summary follows:

Meeting summary
---
* attendees adamw cyberpear fcami poelcat  (poelcat, 16:02:55)
* attendees adamw cyberpear fcami poelcat nirik  (poelcat, 16:03:11)
* https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=597858  (poelcat,
   16:03:57)
   * ACTION: we're waiting for upstream and fesco + add a note in the bug
 that we need a decision by Tuesday to compose RC on time on Thurs
 (poelcat, 16:05:58)
   * ACTION: we're waiting for upstream and fesco + add a note in the bug
 that we need a decision by Tuesday to compose RC on time on Thurs
 https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=597858  (poelcat,
 16:06:10)

* https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=615443  (poelcat,
   16:07:19)
   * LINK:
 
http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Talk:Features/Soas_V4/Install_Test_Table#Test_results
 tests for soas  (satellit__, 16:09:46)
   * ACTION: : test older squashfs. squashfs maintainer will investigate
 further with e2fstools maintainer helping + add reminder to bugs
 that this must be resolved by Tuesday
 https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=615443  (poelcat,
 16:20:13)
   * ACTION: test older squashfs. squashfs maintainer will investigate
 further with e2fstools maintainer helping + add reminder to bugs
 that this must be resolved by Tuesday
 https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=615443  (poelcat,
 16:20:27)

* https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=619020  (poelcat,
   16:21:25)
   * ACTION: test older squashfs. squashfs maintainer will investigate
 further with e2fstools maintainer helping + add reminder to bugs
 that this must be resolved by Tuesday unless there is a work around
 for builds https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=619020
 (poelcat, 16:22:01)

* https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=618504  (poelcat,
   16:22:15)
   * ACTION: this bug does not qualify as a release blocker under the
 release criteria. remove f14alpha block
 https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=618504 + add
 RejectedBlocker whiteboard field  (poelcat, 16:29:15)

* https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=619238  (poelcat,
   16:30:46)
   * ACTION: add as accepted F14alpha blocker In most cases, the
 installed system must boot to a functional graphical environment
 without user intervention + change component to selinux-policy +
 try to reproduce w/ latest compose  (poelcat, 16:35:56)

* https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=617115  (poelcat,
   16:36:11)
   * ACTION: need another bump + f14/rawhide build because of python 2.7
 branch merge + confirm this bug is fixed and then move to
 VERIFIED/CLOSED https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=617115
 (poelcat, 16:42:51)

* open discussion  (poelcat, 16:43:14)
   * ACTION: need to track unfinished python rebuilds: adamw will add
 totem, gnome-dvb-daemon, gnumeric, blueman, wireshark, and gnote to
 'f14alpha' so we make sure they get done in time  (poelcat,
 16:52:10)


Minutes: 
http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-bugzappers/2010-07-30/blocker-review.2010-07-30-16.00.html

Minutes (text): 
http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-bugzappers/2010-07-30/blocker-review.2010-07-30-16.00.txt

Log: 
http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-bugzappers/2010-07-30/blocker-review.2010-07-30-16.00.log.html


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Fedora 14 Alpha Blocker Meeting #2 Recap

2010-07-24 Thread John Poelstra
Date: 2010-07-23

Meeting summary
---
* roll call  (poelcat, 16:00:07)

* https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=597858  (poelcat,
   16:04:23)
   * LINK: https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=506693   (mcepl,
 16:08:09)
   * ACTION: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=597858 approved
 blocker, remove F14Blocker, request feedback from maintainer
 (poelcat, 16:09:48)

* https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=613695  (poelcat,
   16:13:14)

* https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=597858  (poelcat,
   16:16:08)
   * ACTION: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=597858 approved
 blocker, remove F14Blocker, request feedback from maintainer,
 contact Martin Stránský stran...@redhat.com to get a better idea
 of the future of this bug  (poelcat, 16:17:16)

* https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=613695  (poelcat,
   16:18:01)
   * ACTION: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=613695 should be
 back in ASSIGNED, or VERIFIED-CLOSED next week  (poelcat, 16:19:14)

* https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=615443  (poelcat,
   16:19:36)
   * ACTION: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=615443 approved
 blocker, add jkeating to CC, monitor the nightlies for the next week
 and try to keep track of exactly what's broken in each  (poelcat,
 16:27:04)
   * we've certainly confirmed the problem exists and is widespread ...
 need some love to further isolate+diagnose  (poelcat, 16:27:15)

* https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=616090  (poelcat,
   16:29:12)
   * ACTION: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=616090 jlaska
 will retest this with the new rawhide acceptance images when they
 land  (poelcat, 16:30:52)

* #topic https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=617115  (poelcat,
   16:31:28)

* https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=617115  (jlaska, 16:38:32)
   * ACTION: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=617115
 ApprovedBlocker, add the world to the CC list so we can get some
 more help attention and help on this critical issue  (poelcat,
 16:39:24)

* open discussion  (poelcat, 16:39:40)

Meeting ended at 16:45:53 UTC.




Action Items

* https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=597858 approved blocker,
   remove F14Blocker, request feedback from maintainer
* https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=597858 approved blocker,
   remove F14Blocker, request feedback from maintainer, contact Martin
   Stránský stran...@redhat.com to get a better idea of the future of
   this bug
* https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=613695 should be back in
   ASSIGNED, or VERIFIED-CLOSED next week
* https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=615443 approved blocker,
   add jkeating to CC, monitor the nightlies for the next week and try to
   keep track of exactly what's broken in each
* https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=616090 jlaska will retest
   this with the new rawhide acceptance images when they land
* https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=617115 ApprovedBlocker,
   add the world to the CC list so we can get some more help attention
   and help on this critical issue




Action Items, by person
---
* jlaska
   * https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=616090 jlaska will
 retest this with the new rawhide acceptance images when they land
* **UNASSIGNED**
   * https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=597858 approved blocker,
 remove F14Blocker, request feedback from maintainer
   * https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=597858 approved blocker,
 remove F14Blocker, request feedback from maintainer, contact Martin
 Stránský stran...@redhat.com to get a better idea of the future of
 this bug
   * https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=613695 should be back in
 ASSIGNED, or VERIFIED-CLOSED next week
   * https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=615443 approved blocker,
 add jkeating to CC, monitor the nightlies for the next week and try
 to keep track of exactly what's broken in each
   * https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=617115 ApprovedBlocker,
 add the world to the CC list so we can get some more help
 attention and help on this critical issue

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Minutes (text): 
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[Test-Announce] Fedora 14 Alpha Blocker Bug Review Meeting #1 2010-07-23 @ 16:00 UTC (12 PM EST)

2010-07-22 Thread John Poelstra
When: Friday, 2010-07-23 @ 16:00 UTC (12 PM EST)
Where: #fedora-bugzappers on irc.freenode.net

It's that time again: blocker bug review meeting time! Friday is the 
SECOND blocker bug review meeting for the Fedora 14 Alpha.

Here are the current bugs listed as blocking the Alpha release. We'll be 
discussing all of these to determine if they meet the criteria, should 
stay on the list, and are getting the attention they need:

615443 :: NEW :: livecd-tools :: David Huff :: boot from liveusb fails 
(can't mount root filesystem) :: 
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=615443
613695 :: MODIFIED :: anaconda :: Martin Gracik :: ImportError: cannot 
import name GObject :: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=613695
616090 :: MODIFIED :: anaconda :: Anaconda Maintenance Team :: Rescue 
mode fails :: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=616090

If you are the owner of these bugs, kindly update the comments with your 
feedback as to whether you believe it is a blocker and what your plans 
for fixing the bug are.

Do you have an issue you believe should be fixed before the Fedora 14 
Alpha ships?  Please consider the following criteria when escalating an 
issue: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_14_Alpha_Release_Criteria

Our goal for Fedora 14, is to continue to make sure the release criteria 
matches up with our 'gut feelings' for what needs to be fixed before 
releasing.  So, if you see an issue that you think should be a blocker 
but doesn't meet the criteria, please add it as a blocker and mention at 
the meeting that the criteria does't cover it. Thanks!

To promote a bug for consideration as a blocker, simply add 'F14Alpha' 
to the Blocks field of the bug you are concerned about. A similar 
technique works for marking bugs as blocking the Beta or Final release, 
if appropriate, by using 'F14Beta' and 'F14Blocker' respectively.

Hope to see everyone on Friday.

John

The command used to generate the list of bugs above is:

$ bugzilla query --blocked=611990 \
 
--bug_status=NEW,ASSIGNED,NEEDINFO,ON_DEV,MODIFIED,POST,ON_QA,FAILS_QA,PASSES_QA,REOPENED,VERIFIED,RELEASE_PENDING
 
\
 --outputformat=%{bug_id} :: %{bug_status} :: %{component} :: 
%{assigned_to} :: %{summary} :: %{url}
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Requesting ACKs for Rawhide Rebase procedure

2010-07-22 Thread John Poelstra
As announced last week on the development list, all Fedora bugs with a 
version of rawhide (with some exceptions) will be rebased to version 
14 on the Fedora 14 branching date (currently scheduled for 2010-07-27).
http://lists.fedoraproject.org/pipermail/devel-announce/2010-July/000637.html

I would appreciate it if a couple of people would sanity check the query 
to select these bugs and all the other information here:

https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/BugZappers/HouseKeeping/Fedora14#Rawhide_Rebase

Thanks,
John
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Fedora 14 Schedule Reminder

2010-07-19 Thread John Poelstra
Start   End Name
Thu 15-Jul  Thu 22-Jul  Pre-Alpha Rawhide Acceptance Test Plan #2
Thu 22-Jul  Thu 29-Jul  Pre-Alpha Rawhide Acceptance Test Plan #3
Fri 23-Jul  Fri 23-Jul  Alpha Blocker Meeting (f14alpha) #2
Mon 26-Jul  Fri 30-Jul  Daily Review  Notification of Open Alpha 
Blocker Bugs
Tue 27-Jul  Tue 27-Jul  Feature Freeze (Testable|Complete)
Tue 27-Jul  Tue 27-Jul  Spins Freeze--All Fedora 14 Spins Identified
Thu 29-Jul  Wed 04-Aug  Test Alpha 'Test Compose'
Fri 30-Jul  Fri 30-Jul  Alpha Blocker Meeting (f14alpha) #3
Tue 03-Aug  Tue 03-Aug  Alpha Change Deadline

Have you found something that is working really well in your schedule?
Or maybe you've found something you believe would work better in the 
future?

Update the schedule retrospective page now to capture all of the 
important details as they happen: 
https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_14_Schedule_Retrospective
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Fedora 14 Schedule Reminder

2010-07-12 Thread John Poelstra
Start   End Name
Thu 08-Jul  Fri 16-Jul  Pre-Alpha Rawhide Acceptance Test Plan #1
Tue 13-Jul  Tue 13-Jul  Feature Submission Deadline
Thu 15-Jul  Thu 22-Jul  Pre-Alpha Rawhide Acceptance Test Plan #2
Fri 16-Jul  Fri 16-Jul  Alpha Blocker Meeting (f14alpha) #1
Thu 22-Jul  Thu 29-Jul  Pre-Alpha Rawhide Acceptance Test Plan #3
Fri 23-Jul  Fri 23-Jul  Alpha Blocker Meeting (f14alpha) #2
Mon 26-Jul  Fri 30-Jul  Daily Review  Notification of Open Alpha 
Blocker Bugs
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Fedora 14 Schedule Reminder

2010-07-06 Thread John Poelstra
Start   End Name
Thu 08-Jul  Fri 16-Jul  Pre-Alpha Rawhide Acceptance Test Plan #1
Tue 13-Jul  Tue 13-Jul  Feature Submission Deadline
Thu 15-Jul  Thu 22-Jul  Pre-Alpha Rawhide Acceptance Test Plan #2
Fri 16-Jul  Fri 16-Jul  Alpha Blocker Meeting (f14alpha) #1
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Fedora 14 test release blocker bugs

2010-07-06 Thread John Poelstra
Hard to believe, but Fedora QA starts its Pre-Alpha Rawhide Acceptance 
Test Plan testing this Thursday (2010-07-08).

We've run out of time and run way to implement a new means of tracking 
blocker bugs for Fedora--previously discussed in the context of using 
flags in Bugzilla.  We'll continue to use the same process we've used 
for past releases.

I've created tracker bugs for the Fedora 14 Alpha and Beta releases:

Fedora 14 Alpha = F14Alpha = 
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=611990

Fedora 14 Beta = F14Beta = 
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=611990

Other tracker bugs for Fedora 14 are at: 
https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/BugZappers/HouseKeeping/Trackers#Fedora_14

The criteria for considering a bug a release blocker is at:
Alpha--http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_14_Alpha_Release_Criteria#Alpha_Blocker_Bugs

Beta--http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_14_Beta_Release_Criteria#Beta_Blocker_Bugs

John
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