Re: Umask in Fedora 26 ?
I just discovered something odd that explains why umask isn't getting set for the user (me). Traditionally (I researched countless sites about the proper place for things and, as I said, it has always worked in the past, right up until F26), umask is supposed to be in bash_profile. However, I just noticed that my setting gets unset in /etc/bashrc, because in Fedora 26, umask is set in the system bashrc in /etc, thus unsetting my setting. I haven't looked at the value of the PATH variable, but I believe it is okay (I just append $HOME/.local/bin) and this appears to occur in both virtual terminals and graphical. As well, my aliases and functions work, so, what it all boils down to, as far as KDE is concerned, anyway, is that... *umask must be set in .bashrc, not in .bash_profile* ___ test mailing list -- test@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to test-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org
Re: Umask in Fedora 26 ?
Adam Williamson wrote: > So I wouldn't assume that any of the discussion is at > all relevant until you've at least established that someone made a > conscious decision to make some part of KDE not respect those files any > more. It's just as likely, or more likely, to be a straightforward > mistake somewhere or other. True. However, I have noticed for a few fedora releases, that .bashrc and .bash_profile are no longer in users' directories be default any longer. Nor is .local/bin being set any longer. Still, everything seems to work, at least graphically. I never thought to test this other stuff in the past, because I just automatically put my old trusty files in place like always to set up my desired environment. Now that this issue has appeared, I am open to getting rid of those files, since Fedora doesn't even put them in by default, if I can simplify my life and set this stuff up elsewhere. How? Where? Autostart? /etc/environment, as some suggested, for the variables? A bit awkward, since I don't think user settings should be done in /etc... I'd like to find something simple and easy, without a lot of fiddling. ___ test mailing list -- test@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to test-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org
Re: Umask in Fedora 26 ?
Peter Gueckel wrote: > Gordon Messmer wrote: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Common_F25_bugs#GNOME_Wayland_session_does_not_start_a_login_shell.2C_so_does_not_process_.bash_profile_or_.bashrc_etc. I had a look... quite an interesting discussion. I need to take it in in pieces ;-) I agree that these .bash* files are relics, but there needs to be a convenient way to set PATH and other environment variables, umask, and the stuff in bashrc, like aliases and functions. Can I put all of this into an Autostart file? I could live with that. Having separate bash profile and rc files was always confusing and if I had the wrong stuff in one, then there would be an error on login, so autostart, if it can hold these essential definitions would be an improvement. Any ideas that you've come up with to make this easier and without unnecessary hacks to preserve archaic system settings? ___ test mailing list -- test@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to test-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org
Re: Umask in Fedora 26 ?
Gordon Messmer wrote: > Are you talking about ssh or terminal login sessions, or graphical > logins under Wayland? Graphical logins under Kwin on X11. When I ctrl-alt-fx to another virtual terminal (non-graphical) and log in (I just tried it this very minute), it works as it is supposed to and as it always has. > I suspect the latter, as Wayland sessions don't > (or didn't) run the shell profile like X11 sessions did. This was > reported "fixed" but I wonder if it has returned: > > https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Common_F25_bugs#GNOME_Wayland_session_does_not_start_a_login_shell.2C_so_does_not_process_.bash_profile_or_.bashrc_etc. That could be it. I will check that out in a bit. If so, then KDE is now bitten by the same bug. > test mailing list -- test@lists.fedoraproject.org > To unsubscribe send an email to test- le...@lists.fedoraproject.org ___ test mailing list -- test@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to test-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org
Re: Umask in Fedora 26 ?
Jason L Tibbitts III wrote: > Is this from an application running from: > > * A desktop session? (Which one? And what display manager?) A desktop session, Plasma/KDE, GDM display manager, kwin window manager > * A terminal window opened from within a desktop session? (Which terminal > program?) * A text console login? > * An ssh session? It happens both when I use dolphin to create a new directory or file (right click, create new, etc.); and when I open a konsole session and mkdir or touch to create a directory or file. This never used to happen in Fedora 25. Everything worked perfectly, just like I have it configured in .bash_profile. > I know there has been work ongoing to get the user's shell out of the > desktop login path, which would mean that setting something in > .bash_profile or .zprofile or whatever isn't going to make any > difference to programs which spawn from a desktop session. It also > means that .bash_profile/.zprofile won't ever be read if your terminal > program doesn't start the shells as login shells. That's not great :-( While I am the only one using this laptop, I think it is unwise and generally undesirable to grant everyone in my group carte blanche access to all of my files. Were I doing some sort of project and having others in my user group, I would wish to allow them access to only the specific files or directories I allow and no others. > I would assume there would be some other way to set a per- user umask > setting (here I need either 007 or 077 depending) but I have no idea > what it would be. This is what I would like to know: what might it be now? > - J< > ___ > test mailing list -- test@lists.fedoraproject.org > To unsubscribe send an email to test- le...@lists.fedoraproject.org ___ test mailing list -- test@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to test-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org
Umask in Fedora 26 ?
In ~/.bash_profile, I have umask=022, since I want directories (files) to have the permission 755 (644). Until Fedora 25, this worked perfectly. Now, in Fedora 26, directories (files) are created with the permission 775 (664). When I run umask, it returns 0002. For some reason, my setting in .bash_profile is no longer being honoured in Fedora 26! Why? ___ test mailing list -- test@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to test-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org
Re: Testing requests: blocker bug confirmations
Is working WiFi going to be a requirement for Fedora 26? https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1435793 I sure hope so. This morning's kernel has done nothing. Adam Williamson wrote: > Hi folks! At today's blocker review meeting, a couple of bugs came up > where we thought it would be helpful to get more testing to see if > other people see the bugs in question. Here they are: > > https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1439282 (Firefox tabs > crashing on certain sites) > https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1429711 (setroubleshoot > crashing on first boot after install) > > For the first one, if you run Firefox (from the Fedora package) on > Fedora 26, if you see tabs crashing unexpectedly, can you look at the > bug report (and some of the instructions for getting more information > on the crashes) and see if your experience matches any of the reporters > in the bug, and if so add a comment to the bug? On the other hand, if > you run Firefox (from the Fedora package) on Fedora 26 and you have > *not* had issues with tabs crashing regularly, please reply to this > mail and say so. > > For the second one, it'd be great if after any Fedora 26 install you do > (e.g. for validation testing) you could run gnome-abrt, abrt-cli, or > any other way to check if ABRT has caught a crash in setroubleshoot > right after boot. If so, either run through the abrt reporting process > (and see if the crash comes up as a dupe of that bug), or add a comment > to the bug that you're also seeing setroubleshootd crash after a clean > install. On the other hand, if you've run several Fedora 26 installs > and have *not* seen the crash, that's useful information too. > > Thanks a lot, folks! > -- > Adam Williamson > Fedora QA Community Monkey > IRC: adamw | Twitter: AdamW_Fedora | XMPP: adamw AT happyassassin . net > http://www.happyassassin.net > ___ > test mailing list -- test@lists.fedoraproject.org > To unsubscribe send an email to test- le...@lists.fedoraproject.org ___ test mailing list -- test@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to test-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org
Re: Testing requests: blocker bug confirmations
I had the 'gah' message *once* when I was using Firefox 52, but since upgrading to Firefox 53, I have not not experienced it at all. [It was a big problem in Fedora 25, though.] Adam Williamson wrote: > Hi folks! At today's blocker review meeting, a couple of bugs came up > where we thought it would be helpful to get more testing to see if > other people see the bugs in question. Here they are: > > https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1439282 (Firefox tabs > crashing on certain sites) > https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1429711 (setroubleshoot > crashing on first boot after install) > > For the first one, if you run Firefox (from the Fedora package) on > Fedora 26, if you see tabs crashing unexpectedly, can you look at the > bug report (and some of the instructions for getting more information > on the crashes) and see if your experience matches any of the reporters > in the bug, and if so add a comment to the bug? On the other hand, if > you run Firefox (from the Fedora package) on Fedora 26 and you have > *not* had issues with tabs crashing regularly, please reply to this > mail and say so. > > For the second one, it'd be great if after any Fedora 26 install you do > (e.g. for validation testing) you could run gnome-abrt, abrt-cli, or > any other way to check if ABRT has caught a crash in setroubleshoot > right after boot. If so, either run through the abrt reporting process > (and see if the crash comes up as a dupe of that bug), or add a comment > to the bug that you're also seeing setroubleshootd crash after a clean > install. On the other hand, if you've run several Fedora 26 installs > and have *not* seen the crash, that's useful information too. > > Thanks a lot, folks! > -- > Adam Williamson > Fedora QA Community Monkey > IRC: adamw | Twitter: AdamW_Fedora | XMPP: adamw AT happyassassin . net > http://www.happyassassin.net > ___ > test mailing list -- test@lists.fedoraproject.org > To unsubscribe send an email to test- le...@lists.fedoraproject.org ___ test mailing list -- test@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to test-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org
Re: i686 got past TPM, but now video problem
I have done that and I am happy to report that, with the new kernel 4.5.5-300 this bug is resolved to my complete satisfaction :-) -- test mailing list test@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe: http://lists.fedoraproject.org/admin/lists/test@lists.fedoraproject.org
Re: Moving away from reporting to RH bugzilla and adopting pure upstream reporting mantra.
Jóhann B. Guðmundsson wrote: > After bit of irc discussion there is a compelling reason to move > entirely away from Red Hat bugzilla as well as away from concept of > hosting our own. I don't chant that mantra. I am a Fedora consumer, not a maintainer or programmer. My bug reports to bugzilla are a service to the Fedora community, to help make Fedora a better OS, even though it is often time-consuming and bothersome to me. -- test mailing list test@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/test
Re: [Test-Announce] Fedora 19 Final Test Compose 2 (TC2) Available Now!
Adam Williamson wrote:
> Guided partitioning (non-custom) does not destroy any existing
> partitions or data unless you explicitly request it. If you just
used
> 'Reclaim Space' you could choose to delete only whatever
partitions you
> don't need.
I don't have any unpartitioned space. I just over-write one of the
old Fedoras at install. I guess that's the same as what you are
suggesting. I have never tried it like this, so I will see about it
next time.
> It sounds like your strategy was to pre-create partitions
> for F19 in free space and then install to them using custom part
No. See above :)
> or use the 'Reclaim space' screen to delete only
> partitions you do not need.
I will give this a try sometime.
>> At this point, the screen goes blank (10% greyish) and nothing
>> happens, even after 10 minutes of waiting. Virtual desktop 1 has
>> some message about a "g" value not being set. Otherwise, there
>> isn't any sense I can make of it.
>
> Well, that's odd. I haven't seen anything like that. What image
did you
> use?
I used the netinstall image for x86_64. I don't recall which image
I had used when I had a similar experience during the alpha phase,
but it was not the netinstall. I recall having had problems, as I
had downloaded an image and it wouldn't fit onto a disc, so I had
to download a different one, etc.
> Just to mitigate the pain a bit, you can get delta ISOs for the
DVD
> images at https://dl.fedoraproject.org/pub/alt/stage/deltaisos/
(these
> vastly reduce the amount of data you have to download for DVD
images)
I already deleted the file and have trashed the disc. I guess I
should have waited :)
> you can re-use a USB stick for each test instead of burning a
new
> silver round disc-y thing (plus USB sticks work *much* faster
than
> optical disks).
I don't have one. I am interested in this method and would like to
learn how to do it. I don't know what kind of USB stick I would
need to buy, etc.
Just so there is no misunderstanding: I am not a pretester or
tester or whatever. I am a Fedora enthusiast who sometimes gets
over-enthusiastic and downloads test stuff that usually works out
well, but I realize that I should not actually be downloading this
stuff and should wait for the release :{)
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Re: [Test-Announce] Fedora 19 Final Test Compose 2 (TC2) Available Now!
Andre Robatino wrote:
> As per the Fedora 19 schedule [1], Fedora 19 Final Test Compose 2
(TC2)
> is now available for testing.
I just tried it. It doesn't work :{(
I had the same problem as with the alpha release.
During the selection of the drive/partition to install to, I select
the drive that the free partition is on, click done, and a screen
appears with options. I click custom partitioning (I have f18 and
data on other partitions on the drive, so I don't want it wiped
out!).
At this point, the screen goes blank (10% greyish) and nothing
happens, even after 10 minutes of waiting. Virtual desktop 1 has
some message about a "g" value not being set. Otherwise, there
isn't any sense I can make of it.
With the alpha release, it was similar, except that after I
selected custom partitioning, a window appeared over the other one,
with the list of partions displayed, if I recall correctly. Then,
this new window slid behind the other previous one and the mouse
faded out so that I could not bring it back to the front. This
occurred numerous times, so I gave up and decided to wait for the
beta.
Well, now we are at TC2 and it still doesn't work. I have wasted
hours downloading and burning disks. I am going to wait for the
release.
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Re: espeak update failed
Joachim Backes wrote: > See https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=924681 Noted :-) -- test mailing list test@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/test
espeak update failed
I just updated the system. There was a curious message: Error unpacking rpm package espeak-1.47.01-1.fc18.x86_64 error: unpacking of archive failed on file /usr/share/espeak- data/voices/en: cpio: rename error: espeak-1.47.01-1.fc18.x86_64: install failed Is this significant? -- test mailing list test@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/test
Re: What happened to autohint?
Tom Horsley wrote: > Not only did the autohint file move to > /usr/share/fontconfig/conf.avail/10-autohint.conf, > but the content changed as well. > Instead of a symlink, I made a copy and changed the > "append" operation to "assign", and suddenly the > scales fell from my eyes! I could see again! Thanks for posting this! I noticed the new 'assign' value, but must not have rebooted, so it never took and I thought I was stuck with those spindly fonts again. -- test mailing list test@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/test
Anaconda Accolades
No need to comment. Just want to pass on experience to those up the ladder. 1. Stupid 20-minute pause (waiting for a timeout?) before the installation got underway. 2. My Intel ipw2200 wireless simply works! One configuration at install time and it works for every boot. Wow! 3. I wasn't sure about the NTP exclamation mark, so I left it and ran 'timedatectl set-ntp 1' after installation completed. Hopefully, everything is correct. 4. The dumb "reclaim space" button threw me after I selected 'ext4' and "let me customize disk partitioning", but it seemed the only choice, so I clicked it. 5. I really liked how all of my OSes were detected: Fedora 15, Fedora 16 and Fedora 17. I wanted to reformat the Fedora 15 partition, so I clicked it and it opened up to display a root and swap. I entered / and reformat for root and left swap untouched (I want F16 and F17 fallback systems to still be able to use it, so it wouldn't be good to risk it getting a new label). Conclusion: Despite the initial delay, all went swiftly and smoothly, without a hitch. Grade: somewhere in the B+ to A- range. Great job! -- test mailing list test@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/test
Re: off to a nostart F18B start
Felix Miata wrote: > Is there any other UI on the planet where > where a done or OK button is at the upper left? I guess you're not a KDE user ;-) SystemSettings has a button with a back arrow, which effectively has the same function as the 'done' button -- in the upper left corner! -- test mailing list test@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/test
Re: bugzilla question
Frank Murphy wrote: > You can't report without having a bz account I know. I have one. > you can modify what mails you receive. > I think you need to go here: > https://bugzilla.redhat.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email Those are global settings. There are cases where you are the reporter, but do not wish to be an active participant, follow all of the discussion, etc. There appears to be no way to opt out. Or is there? -- test mailing list test@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/test
bugzilla question
Sometimes someone says: "You should report xxx to bugzilla." If you do, you end up getting emails and may be contacted and are unable to get yourself off the list, because you reported it. How can one report something without being on the list? PS: Obviously, I want to receive correspondence and be contacted about issues that concern me, but I don't want to receive correspondence or be contacted about issues that do not impact me. -- test mailing list test@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/test
Re: Now that Fedora 18ß is out, questions still here? It's a Kmail one...
Karel Volný wrote: > Dne Čt 29. listopadu 2012 09:37:10, Peter Gueckel napsal(a): >> The kmail question is that after setup, I >> notice that there is no trash folder. One can >> delete messages to a trash folder and they >> disappear, but there is no folder, so one >> cannot see what's in the trash (or bring it >> back). Is this supposed to be like this? > > for sure no ... do you see this problem after restarting kmail & > akonadiserver (reboot, relogin ...)? The problem persists after shutting down the computer numerous times and restarting the system. > anyways, still it'd be worth reporting (if not done already?) I guess I should. I wasn't sure if it was now supposed to be like that. > btw, if you don't see the folder in kmail, can you see it in > akonadiconsole? does it exist on disk? This I do not know. I haven't used akonadiconsole. I will have a look. What I just did, however, was to manually create a trash folder, just to see if my deleted emails would be in it, but it was empty. The trash folder I created did not get the special trash-folder icon, so I suppose the system doesn't consider it to be the real trash. I will delete that one again before I go into akonadiconsole. -- test mailing list test@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/test
Re: Now that Fedora 18ß is out, questions still here? It's a Kmail one...
Adam Williamson wrote: > less pointless arguing :-) -- test mailing list test@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/test
Re: Now that Fedora 18ß is out, questions still here? It's a Kmail one...
Jóhann B. Guðmundsson wrote: > On 11/30/2012 01:00 AM, Peter Gueckel wrote: >> Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: >> >>> However KDE questions (even for F18) can >> alternatively go >>> to the KDE-Fedora list, but not cross- >> posted please. I see you've >>> already posted there. >> That list is DEAD! There is not activity on >> it. >> > > Oh I'm pretty sure the KDE community is very much alive and well... > > JBG I posted the question last night and there has been no response yet, nor has there been any other activity on the list. -- test mailing list test@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/test
Re: Now that Fedora 18ß is out, questions still here? It's a Kmail one...
Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: > However KDE questions (even for F18) can alternatively go > to the KDE-Fedora list, but not cross- posted please. I see you've > already posted there. That list is DEAD! There is not activity on it. -- test mailing list test@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/test
Now that Fedora 18ß is out, questions still here? It's a Kmail one...
I installed Fedora 18ß on both of my computers. A horrible long wait for about 20 minutes before anything happened. When it finally started, a message about /etc/commandline or somethinglike that flew past. Other than that, anaconda is excellent and it is a beautiful piece of work! The kmail question is that after setup, I notice that there is no trash folder. One can delete messages to a trash folder and they disappear, but there is no folder, so one cannot see what's in the trash (or bring it back). Is this supposed to be like this? -- test mailing list test@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/test
Re: Fedora 17 updates-testing report
Adam Williamson wrote: > So far, seven people :-) -- test mailing list test@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/test
Re: Fedora 17 updates-testing report
upda...@fedoraproject.org wrote: > colord-gtk-0.1.22-1.fc17 Hasn't anyone noticed that colord-gtk-0.1.22-1.fc17 will not install, because it conflicts with colord-0.1.21-1.fc17.x86_64? -- test mailing list test@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/test
NetworkManager-0.9.4.0-8.git20120502.fc17.x86_64
Non-fatal POSTUN scriptlet failure in rpm package 1:NetworkManager-0.9.4.0-8.git20120502.fc17.x86_64 /var/tmp/rpm-tmp.LIDIm9: line 6: syntax error near unexpected token `fi' /var/tmp/rpm-tmp.LIDIm9: line 6: `fi' warning: %postun(NetworkManager-1:0.9.4.0-8.git20120502.fc17.x86_64) scriptlet failed, exit status 2 -- test mailing list test@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/test
Re: adobe flash crashes in firefox, not in konqueror
Matej Cepl wrote:
> Adobe now supports both x86_64 as well as i686 flash-plugin...
I have always used the 64-bit version, even when there were only test zip files.
> nspluginwrapper is not needed for covering 32bit for 64bit Firefox anymore.
I had not heard until now.
> Also since somewhere in the 3.* timeframe Firefox supports out of process
> plugins.
I haven't got a clue what that means.
> SELinux people thus recreated SELinux policy so that
> even "naked" flash-plugin runs confined with the SELinux type
> mozilla_plugin_t (see https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=747993).
The only reason I used nspluginwrapper on my 64-bit system was because of
presumed
selinux requirements.
> So, please, uninstall nspluginwrapper
I just did, and all works fine.
> install Adobe Yum Flash repo
That's how I have been getting it, since they finally started providing yum for
64-
bit. Previously, I downloaded the zip file, but that was easy, too.
> restart firefox, and open some Flashy webpage.
> When you run these commands, what do you get?
>
> pstree -Z $(pidof firefox)
firefox(`unconfined_u:unconfined_r:unconfined_t:s0-s0:c0.c1023')
├─plugin-containe(`unconfined_u:unconfined_r:mozilla_plugin_t:s0-s0:c0.c1023')
│ └─21*[{plugin-containe}(`unconfined_u:unconfined_r:mozilla_plugin_t:s0-
s0:c0.c1023'+
└─23*[{firefox}(`unconfined_u:unconfined_r:unconfined_t:s0-s0:c0.c1023')]
> ps Z $(pgrep -f plugin-container)
LABEL PID TTY STAT TIME COMMAND
unconfined_u:unconfined_r:mozilla_plugin_t:s0-s0:c0.c1023 9810 ? Sl 0:21
/usr/lib64/xulrunner-2/plugin-container
-*-
I am glad I no longer need nspluginwrapper. It's onel less thing I need to set
up on
the system to get it running properly.
Thanks for the information :-)
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Re: [update] adobe flash crashes in firefox, not in konqueror
Peter Gueckel wrote: I just uninstalled nspluginwrapper (I could have unwrapped flash, I suppose) and now it works. However, I have run flash wrapped for years and, now, with firefox 12 or some selinux update of a couple of days ago, it no longer works. -- test mailing list test@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/test
Re: adobe flash crashes in firefox, not in konqueror
Peter Gueckel wrote: > as soon as I so much as scroll the mouse to centre the > player window or even just try to click the play button, it > just whites out and is gone. Correction: as soon as I click the play button, it whites out and a white area remains where the player is supposed to be. -- test mailing list test@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/test
Re: adobe flash crashes in firefox, not in konqueror
Ed Greshko wrote: > On 04/28/2012 12:15 PM, Peter Gueckel wrote: >> Since about 2-3 days, coinciding with the release of firefox >> 12, I think, the adobe flash plugin crashes in firefox >> only this site appears to be affected: >> >> http://www.cbc.ca/thenational/watch/ > > How long does it take to crash? I just installed the latest flash-plugin > using the Adobe repo and it is playing just fine That is strange! When I call up the page, flash is working and as soon as I so much as scroll the mouse to centre the player window or even just try to click the play button, it just whites out and is gone. Do you have flash player wrapped with nspluginwrapper? -- test mailing list test@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/test
adobe flash crashes in firefox, not in konqueror
My system is up-to-date with updates-testing. Since about 2-3 days, coinciding with the release of firefox 12, I think, the adobe flash plugin crashes in firefox, but it runs in konqueror, but only this site appears to be affected: http://www.cbc.ca/thenational/watch/ Youtube works. -- test mailing list test@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/test
Re: F17-Alpha DVD basic install success with comments
Adam Williamson wrote: > At the user level it's pretty simple: it's a modern replacement for > BIOS. It's an entirely new system firmware standard for PCs. > > The most user-noticeable features of UEFI are probably secure boot > (which has been discussed ad infinitum: the important thing here is not > to confuse UEFI as a whole with the secure boot feature, which is one > small feature of UEFI and can be optional, as it is on all current > implementations. Some don't even have secure boot. The press often makes > this mistake) and the EFI boot manager, which puts the boot manager in > the system firmware where it belongs. No more faffing around with an MBR > bootloader for every disk and possible chainloading of bootloaders in > root partitions. With UEFI, broadly, OSes install somewhere and then > tell the system firmware where they are, and the system firmware gives > you the list of OSes to choose from. > > Many new systems and motherboards have a UEFI-based firmware, now. But > because many OSes don't really support UEFI, UEFI implementations almost > always have a BIOS compatibility mode (sometimes referred to as CSM) and > almost always actually default to using it; you have to do something > specific to boot anything EFI natively. (Laptops with pre-installed OSes > can be an exception to this, there are a few which boot Windows x64 > natively via EFI, I believe). > > I tend to use 'EFI' and 'UEFI' interchangeably (see above!), which is a > bad habit. EFI originated as an Intel thing, at which time it was called > EFI. It then got proposed as an industry standard, accepted, and > somewhat revised, since when it's known as UEFI. Strictly, saying EFI > should really refer to the original Intel implementation only. Very informative! Thanks for taking the time. -- test mailing list test@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/test
Re: F17-Alpha DVD basic install success with comments
Adam Williamson wrote: > Could you try one? I have to pay when I go over my monthly GB download limit. > [EFI]'s a system firmware level thing. That's what I thought, but, having googled it numerous times, it seems to be quite mysterious, still, and straight answers are hard to come by. -- test mailing list test@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/test
Re: F17-Alpha DVD basic install success with comments
Adam Williamson wrote: > Do early 17 DVDs work for you? Have you tried? This is the first Fedora 17 disk I have tried. > The 17 Beta TCs should still be available at stage/, and the > Alpha is of course available 'officially'. I didn't bother with any of the alphas. Particularly, because of the /usr/lib stuff, I wanted that all to be well ironed out before I give anything a try. > Were you booting EFI or BIOS? There was never any way for me to make a selection. I would like to move my system over to EFI, since it is supposed to be more advanced, but I don't know how to migrate. I read that you have to have a special partition set up for it and I don't know whether the installer will do it or whether I should create one first. -- test mailing list test@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/test
Re: F17-Alpha DVD basic install success with comments
Peter Gueckel wrote: > Adam Williamson wrote: > >> Did you checksum it? > > No, I know I should have, but I didn't. I was too lazy to check. > OK. I finally bothered to checksum it and it is OK. -- test mailing list test@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/test
Re: F17-Alpha DVD basic install success with comments
Adam Williamson wrote: > Did you checksum it? No, I know I should have, but I didn't. I was too lazy to check. -- test mailing list test@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/test
Re: F17-Alpha DVD basic install success with comments
stan wrote: > Overall assessment - a smooth and positive experience. I downloaded the Beta Release Candidate 1 and just tried to install it to a spare partition. This is what happened: The computer booted, read the DVD, said it would boot it in 3 seconds, then a message appeared in the upper left corner about "trying to allocate 1135 pages... for vmlinuz" (I think it said). Then the computer rebooted, read the DVD, said it would boot it in 3 seconds, then a message appeared in the upper left corner about "trying to allocate 1135 pages... for vmlinuz" (I think it said). Then the computer rebooted, read the DVD, said it would boot it in 3 seconds, then a message appeared in the upper left corner about "trying to allocate 1135 pages... for vmlinuz" (I think it said). Then the computer rebooted, read the DVD, said it would boot it in 3 seconds, then a message appeared in the upper left corner about "trying to allocate 1135 pages... for vmlinuz" (I think it said). etc. It never booted the DVD and I never managed to get an install screen. The computer just kept rebooting. Overall assessment: I have never experienced such a complete and total failure with a Fedora installation (and I have often installed alpha and beta releases). -- test mailing list test@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/test
Re: upower question?
Adam Williamson wrote: > No, that sounds like exactly the bug discussed above, and I would bet > dollars to donuts you got an update to 'at' at the same time as you got > an update to the kernel. The 'at' update fixes the bug. Yes, that is correct. Along with the kernal was at-3.1.13-5.fc16. Thanks for the info :-) -- test mailing list test@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/test
Re: upower question?
Adam Williamson wrote: > On Wed, 2011-11-16 at 06:25 -0500, Jon Masters wrote: >> On Wed, 2011-11-16 at 05:50 -0500, Jon Masters wrote: >> >> > On a recently installed system running rawhide I notice that this is >> > not working for me. I click "suspend", my network drops...it looks >> > hopeful, then I see the network come back up. Of course, a simple cat >> > into sysfs >> > does suspend the system, so it can work just fine. Ok. So I download >> > the xfce4-session source and start looking. Then I write a simple DBus >> > utility to call upower directly, first to check I am allowed to suspend >> > (which I am), then to call Suspend directly. Same behavior. Something >> > is up in upower but before I go tearing that apart...any debug >> > suggestions? >> >> So then I go re-learning how pm-utils works, and the hooks, and in >> particular /usr/lib64/pm-utils/sleep.d/56atd from the latest at, which >> has been all systemd-ified but with a broken test on line 14. >> >> Ah well, I guess I was overdue for digging through that anyway. I'll >> file or hunt down whatever bug is already reported. > > Thanks for that - I've been seeing the same thing the last couple of > days but hadn't had time to dig into it yet. I'm not sure if this is the same thing, but on Fedora 16, since about 2 days, whenever I clicked suspend to RAM, the system locked the screensaver, but the system never suspended. This morning, I installed the new test kernel, 3.1.1-2.fc16.x86_64, and now it suspends properly again. Could it have been something in the kernel? -- test mailing list test@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/test
Re: black screen on f16 laptop after idle
Dave Jones wrote: > What graphics card ? Intel Mobile 915GM/GMS/910GML Express -- test mailing list test@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/test
Re: black screen on f16 laptop after idle
Dave Jones wrote: > well the good thing is that the machine is still alive when it comes back, > so you should have log files showing what happened on resume. OK. I already turned it off. I hope the relevant information in the log files will still be there when I turn it on again, which will probably be tomorrow or the next day (I don't use the laptop that much). -- test mailing list test@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/test
black screen on f16 laptop after idle
I powered up my laptop. The kdm screen was there, but I did not log in. After some time, perhaps 20-30 minutes, I was ready to log in. The screen was black, but that occurs after idle, so no problem, just wiggle the mouse. Nothing happened. The screen stayed black. I know the password field was focused, so I typed it and the computer logged in. Still black screen. I typed ctrl-alt-f2 and logged in as root. Still black screen. I typed reboot and the computer rebooted and I again had a visible screen. How can I wake up the display after it has gone into a sleep mode? -- test mailing list test@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/test
Re: console kit errors
Mike Chambers wrote: > Seems to be the fix, thanks. > -- test mailing list test@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/test
Re: grub2 menu entry for Fedora 16 is not nice
Tom H wrote: > If you set "GRUB_DISTRIBUTOR=Fedora" in "/etc/default/grub", you'll > have "Fedora Linux, with Linux ..." in your grub menu. Thanks. I made the change. Next kernel, I will see it in action. This will look much better. -- test mailing list test@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/test
grub2 menu entry for Fedora 16 is not nice
Why does the grub2 menu entry list Fedora like this: Linux, with Linux 3.1.0-0.rc6.git0.3.fc16.x86_64? Instead of like this: Fedora 16, with Linux 3.1.0-0.rc6.git0.3.fc16.x86_64? While os-prober finds other Fedoras on other partitions and shows them like this (yes, I have 2 partititions with fedora 16, because I had to do a base install to rescue the system after the grub2 accident about 10 days ago): Fedora release 16 (Verne) (on /dev/sda6) Fedora (2.6.40.3-0.fc15.x86_64) (on /dev/sda7) Fedora (2.6.40-4.fc15.x86_64) (on /dev/sda7) etc. -- test mailing list test@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/test
Re: pulseaudio on f16 using cpu
Joachim Backes wrote: > I had pulseaudio problems too, and I could get rid of them by updating > to kernel-3.1.0-0.rc6.git0.0.fc16.x86_64 (the buggy kernel was rc5). That is another possibility. I have noticed that, while rc5 works on this computer, it does not boot on my laptop. -- test mailing list test@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/test
Re: pulseaudio on f16 using cpu
Peter Gueckel wrote: > I have noticed that pulseaudio uses upwards of 16% CPU and when I start > krunner to investigate, I see that there are often numerous pulseaudio > processes all running simultaneously, but greyed out. And this, while I am > not even using any applications that emit sound! > > It is so bad, that the mouse is often locked up for a few seconds, screens > won't update, etc., because of the high load. > > I tried killing pulseaudio --kill ad a new one was generated and the same > is happening. > > When I try to use an application to play music, for example, no sound is > emitted and the application gets stuck. > > What is causing this and how do I get rid of it? > Very strange! It has been going like this all evening, to the point that I could barely use the system. Now, I just started kpat(ience) and it makes sounds when one moves that cards and suddenly all is working fine! I wonder if there is a problem with pulseaudio and resuming the system from suspend to RAM? -- test mailing list test@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/test
pulseaudio on f16 using cpu
I have noticed that pulseaudio uses upwards of 16% CPU and when I start krunner to investigate, I see that there are often numerous pulseaudio processes all running simultaneously, but greyed out. And this, while I am not even using any applications that emit sound! It is so bad, that the mouse is often locked up for a few seconds, screens won't update, etc., because of the high load. I tried killing pulseaudio --kill ad a new one was generated and the same is happening. When I try to use an application to play music, for example, no sound is emitted and the application gets stuck. What is causing this and how do I get rid of it? -- test mailing list test@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/test
Re: KDE fungus growing over everything!
Try it! It's edible and nutritious :-) -- test mailing list test@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/test
Re: KDE fungus growing over everything!
Tom Horsley wrote: > I very shortly got a popup with the title "kded - KDialog" > saying something about ~/.kde/share/config/kdedrc not > being writable. I don't know what causes it, but it often is the case, after freshly installing or updating kde to a new version, that these "not writeable" messages occur. You will find (at least, I found), that the files are owned by root instead of you. Change ownership and the message will go away. As for the rest of it, ...??? -- test mailing list test@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/test
Re: F16: After update to grub2-1.99-1.fc16.x86_64 cannot boot
Peter Gueckel wrote: > Joachim Backes wrote: >> Anybody has the same issue? > Any ideas how to get grub installed properly...? Many hours of work, my desktop computer is back. I don't care to do that agian (and don't ask me what I did, because I couldn't say, in any sensible order)! -- test mailing list test@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/test
Re: lldpad consuming up to 65% of cpu
Adam Williamson wrote: > so if you have anaconda installed, you can probably > just remove it, remove fcoe-utils and lldpad, and be happy. I installed from alive CD, so I think that is why anaconda is installed, and hence, with it, as you said, all of the other stuff. I will uninstall as per your advice. Thanks :-) -- test mailing list test@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/test
Re: F16: After update to grub2-1.99-1.fc16.x86_64 cannot boot
Joachim Backes wrote: > after each kernel update I burn a boot cd Explain how you do this! It wastes a lot of CDs, but saves a lot of wasted time trying to rescue a system. -- test mailing list test@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/test
Re: F16: After update to grub2-1.99-1.fc16.x86_64 cannot boot
Joachim Backes wrote: > Anybody has the same issue? Yes, please HELP! :-) I am unable to boot my desktop computer. I just get a grub rescue command prompt and no grub commands except set seem to be recognized. I cannot boot into Fedora 15 or Fedora 16 alpha. I am trying to fix by running the boot.fedora.iso CD, but I am not hopeful that this is the solution I want. Any ideas how to get grub installed properly on a system that only had grub rescue prompt and will not boot into any installed fedoras? -- test mailing list test@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/test
lldpad consuming up to 65% of cpu
what is this lldpad daemonand why does it run continually for days on end without ever terminating and consume up to 65% of my laptop's cpu? -- test mailing list test@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/test
