Just reporting....
that in rawhide if I try to edit a grub entry at boot time (too either set or unset something in the linux line for example) I get a blank screen and no ability to edit, boot, etc. without a hard reset. This is with the latest updates from yesterday. IMO, the boot menu has taken a step back in looks and, now, in functionality. -- Regards, Kevin Martin -- test mailing list test@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/test
[Rawhide] Re: Just reporting....
On Wed, 09 Jan 2013 08:05:06 -0600 Kevin Martin ktm...@gmail.com wrote: that in rawhide if I try to edit a grub entry at boot time (too either set or unset something in the linux line for example) I get a blank screen and no ability to edit, boot, etc. without a hard reset. This is with the latest updates from yesterday. IMO, the boot menu has taken a step back in looks and, now, in functionality. Have you a list of said updates? That you can work through to find the culprit. -- Regards, Frank Still trying to learn, both old and new tricks --me . -- test mailing list test@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/test
Re: [Rawhide] Re: Just reporting....
Hasn't worked for quite a while (pretty much ever since they updated the grub menu boot time layout). Is the grub boot menu stuff in the anaconda package? I'm not even sure where to start looking for it. Kevin On 01/09/13 08:09, Frank Murphy wrote: On Wed, 09 Jan 2013 08:05:06 -0600 Kevin Martin ktm...@gmail.com wrote: that in rawhide if I try to edit a grub entry at boot time (too either set or unset something in the linux line for example) I get a blank screen and no ability to edit, boot, etc. without a hard reset. This is with the latest updates from yesterday. IMO, the boot menu has taken a step back in looks and, now, in functionality. Have you a list of said updates? That you can work through to find the culprit. -- test mailing list test@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/test
Re: [Rawhide] Re: Just reporting....
On 01/09/13 08:20, Kevin Martin wrote: Hasn't worked for quite a while (pretty much ever since they updated the grub menu boot time layout). Is the grub boot menu stuff in the anaconda package? I'm not even sure where to start looking for it. Kevin On 01/09/13 08:09, Frank Murphy wrote: On Wed, 09 Jan 2013 08:05:06 -0600 Kevin Martin ktm...@gmail.com wrote: that in rawhide if I try to edit a grub entry at boot time (too either set or unset something in the linux line for example) I get a blank screen and no ability to edit, boot, etc. without a hard reset. This is with the latest updates from yesterday. IMO, the boot menu has taken a step back in looks and, now, in functionality. Have you a list of said updates? That you can work through to find the culprit. Argh, sorry for the top post. Too used to answering email from those who expect top posting! Kevin -- test mailing list test@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/test
Re: [Rawhide] Re: Just reporting....
On Wed, 09 Jan 2013 08:20:01 -0600 Kevin Martin ktm...@gmail.com wrote: Hasn't worked for quite a while (pretty much ever since they updated the grub menu boot time layout). Is the grub boot menu stuff in the anaconda package? I'm not even sure where to start looking for it. Kevin What point did you upgrade to Rawhide. New grub2 is in use since Fedora 16 was released. -- Regards, Frank Still trying to learn, both old and new tricks --me . -- test mailing list test@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/test
Re: [Rawhide] Re: Just reporting....
On 01/09/13 08:41, Frank Murphy wrote: On Wed, 09 Jan 2013 08:20:01 -0600 Kevin Martin ktm...@gmail.com wrote: Hasn't worked for quite a while (pretty much ever since they updated the grub menu boot time layout). Is the grub boot menu stuff in the anaconda package? I'm not even sure where to start looking for it. Kevin What point did you upgrade to Rawhide. New grub2 is in use since Fedora 16 was released. Been running rawhide for well over a year. The boot editing issue has occurred essentially since the anaconda changes. I did a reinstall of my system with the F18 beta DVD about 4 months ago; that's when I started noticing the problem. I've since then been updating my system from the rawhide repos. Kevin -- test mailing list test@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/test
Re: [Rawhide] Re: Just reporting....
I haven't tried editing any grub entries in my f18 system, but I did notice that f18 came with fancy gfx nonsense turned on. I wonder if deleting all the gfx junk from the config file and running grub with a plain old text console would allow editing to work? (Just a random thought). -- test mailing list test@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/test
Re: [Rawhide] Re: Just reporting....
On Wed, 09 Jan 2013 09:11:18 -0600 Kevin Martin ktm...@gmail.com wrote: Been running rawhide for well over a year. The boot editing issue has occurred essentially since the anaconda changes. I did a reinstall of my system with the F18 beta DVD about 4 months ago; that's when I started noticing the problem. I've since then been updating my system from the rawhide repos. Kevin You don't need anaconda for an installed system. Am running Rawhide here with no boot problems. Though I have removed all the advanced sub-menu as it wasn't necessary in my particular boxes. Can you boot from an earlier kernel? do your logs give any hint of a problem. -- Regards, Frank Still trying to learn, both old and new tricks --me . -- test mailing list test@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/test
Re: [Rawhide] Re: Just reporting....
On 01/09/13 09:26, Frank Murphy wrote: On Wed, 09 Jan 2013 09:11:18 -0600 Kevin Martin ktm...@gmail.com wrote: Been running rawhide for well over a year. The boot editing issue has occurred essentially since the anaconda changes. I did a reinstall of my system with the F18 beta DVD about 4 months ago; that's when I started noticing the problem. I've since then been updating my system from the rawhide repos. Kevin You don't need anaconda for an installed system. Am running Rawhide here with no boot problems. Though I have removed all the advanced sub-menu as it wasn't necessary in my particular boxes. Can you boot from an earlier kernel? do your logs give any hint of a problem. I understand that anaconda is not needed for a running system. And I'm not having a problem booting into any of my kernels; I found the problem when I went to add some debug information on the fly to the linux line in the kernel I was booting and found that after hitting 'e' to edit it showed nothing to edit, 'c' for commandline seemed to do nothing, the option for booting did nothing, and I couldn't get back to the grub menu. I had to hard reset to get back to where I could see the grub menu. Tom Horsley mentioned the gfx stuff in grub. I'm going to look at that and see what happens if I disable it. Kevin -- test mailing list test@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/test
Re: [Rawhide] Re: Just reporting....
On Wed, 09 Jan 2013 09:32:50 -0600 Kevin Martin ktm...@gmail.com wrote: Just a thought do you have the menu with advanced sub-menu Maybe you can only edit those in the sub-menu? If that's what you have. -- Regards, Frank Still trying to learn, both old and new tricks --me . -- test mailing list test@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/test
Re: [Rawhide] Re: Just reporting....
On 01/09/13 09:46, Frank Murphy wrote: On Wed, 09 Jan 2013 09:32:50 -0600 Kevin Martin ktm...@gmail.com wrote: Just a thought do you have the menu with advanced sub-menu Maybe you can only edit those in the sub-menu? If that's what you have. So setting GRUB_TERMINAL=console and rebuilding my grub2.cfg does the trick. I now get the old style grub menu and can edit the entries, either directly or via the Advanced sub menu. Seems like another example of people fixing a non-existent problem. The grub menu doesn't need to be fancy, just operational. Adding complexity to it in the name of trying to make it look good is begging for problems. Thanks Tom and Frank for your help. Kevin -- test mailing list test@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/test
