Re: What is this mega-dvd-test?
On Sun, 2010-10-31 at 01:50 -0400, Scott Robbins wrote: On Sun, Oct 31, 2010 at 12:14:07AM -0500, Robert G. (Doc) Savage wrote: Like you, I'm running into trouble with livecd-iso-to-disk. I'm seeing a couple of different problems: Waiting for devices to settle... mkdosfs 3.0.9 (31 Jan 2010) mount: you must specify the filesystem type Cleaning up to exit... umount: /media/cdtmp.6Ci76u: not mounted This is on a fully-updated 32-bit F13 system, attempting to write the image to an 8GB USB drive formatted to FAT-32. Doesn't FAT32 have a 4 GB limit on file size? Scott, It may, but that's moot. l-i-t-d does that formatting, and it's not a user option. l-i-t-d should also specify a filesystem type for mount, but it's not doing that right either. --Doc Savage Fairview Heights, IL -- test mailing list test@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/test
Re: What is this mega-dvd-test?
On Sun, Oct 31, 2010 at 05:03:30 -0500, Robert G. (Doc) Savage dsav...@peaknet.net wrote: It may, but that's moot. l-i-t-d does that formatting, and it's not a user option. l-i-t-d should also specify a filesystem type for mount, but it's not doing that right either. Normally you don't need to specify a file system for a mount. Mount can detect what type it should be, and use the correct handler. When you get that message usually something is messed up with the filesystem. -- test mailing list test@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/test
Re: What is this mega-dvd-test?
I used an early F14 version of livecd-iso-to-disk, which may explain some different behavior. There is one significant difference in how the script is invoked: in the F13 version, the device argument can (must?) be the base device, such as the /dev/sdc you used where you likely have a /dev/sdc1 partition allocated for a VFAT filesystem; in the F14 version of livecd-iso-to-disk, the device argument must be the explicit designation for the partition to use, as /dev/sdh1 in my case. This seems a useful change, because one might have several partitions for diverse purposes, especially with the larger flash drives that are presently available. We probably should use the latest-and-greatest livecd-iso-to-disk script from git in order to avoid stumbles over issues already fixed. http://git.fedorahosted.org/git/?p=livecd I gather some recent activity has addressed issues with ext (instead of FAT) partitions; that is something I should like to try again. I think there remains some question about whether livecd-iso-to-disk is even intended to write this mega-DVD to a USB flash drive. It would be nice to know this is supposed to work before we spend much effort to try it. -- test mailing list test@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/test
Re: What is this mega-dvd-test?
Doesn't FAT32 have a 4 GB limit on file size? That should not be a factor in this case. There are multiple live system images, but each one is a separate file well under 4GB. It is the total space for all the files that exceeds 4GB. -- test mailing list test@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/test
Re: What is this mega-dvd-test?
On Sun, Oct 31, 2010 at 14:16:28 -0400, Richard Ryniker ryni...@alum.mit.edu wrote: I used an early F14 version of livecd-iso-to-disk, which may explain some different behavior. There is one significant difference in how the script is invoked: in the F13 version, the device argument can (must?) be the base device, such as the /dev/sdc you used where you likely have a /dev/sdc1 partition allocated for a VFAT filesystem; in the F14 version of livecd-iso-to-disk, the device argument must be the explicit designation for the partition to use, as /dev/sdh1 in my case. Both methods are supposed to work. They format the device differently. When no partition name is used the device is supposed to look like a giant floppy. -- test mailing list test@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/test
Re: What is this mega-dvd-test?
On Sun, 2010-10-31 at 12:48 -0500, Bruno Wolff III wrote: On Sun, Oct 31, 2010 at 05:03:30 -0500, Robert G. (Doc) Savage dsav...@peaknet.net wrote: It may, but that's moot. l-i-t-d does that formatting, and it's not a user option. l-i-t-d should also specify a filesystem type for mount, but it's not doing that right either. Normally you don't need to specify a file system for a mount. Mount can detect what type it should be, and use the correct handler. When you get that message usually something is messed up with the filesystem. Bruno, I think I found at least part of the problem here. The Downloads directory in my home folder is bind mounted to an NFS filesystem on an RHEL5 server. For some reason the iso file is being severely truncated by that NFS filesystem: Here's the original file in a 1.1TB ext3 filesystem: Red Hat Enterprise Linux Server release 5.5 (Tikanga) Sunday - October 31, 2010 17:16:56 CDT [...@lion] /pub/fedora/linux/releases/14/Live $ ls -l total 5463812 -rw--- 1 doc doc950 Oct 21 09:17 Fedora-14-Live-multi-CHECKSUM -rw--- 1 doc doc 5589458944 Oct 21 10:06 Fedora-14-Live-multi.iso drwxrwxr-x 2 doc doc 4096 Oct 26 20:02 i386 drwxrwxr-x 2 doc doc 4096 Oct 26 20:02 x86_64 Here's the NFS-exported version as seen on the F13 system, the one running l-i-t-d: Fedora release 13 (Goddard) Sunday - October 31, 2010 16:55:17 CDT [...@tiger] /net/lion/pub/fedora/linux/releases/14/Live $ ls -l total 5463812 -rw--- 1 doc doc950 Oct 21 09:17 Fedora-14-Live-multi-CHECKSUM -rw--- 1 doc doc 1294491648 Oct 21 10:06 Fedora-14-Live-multi.iso drwxrwxr-x 2 doc doc 4096 Oct 26 20:02 i386 drwxrwxr-x 2 doc doc 4096 Oct 26 20:02 x86_64 Curiously, the difference in file sizes is precisely 4GB. Is this a bug, or normal behavior for NFS? --Doc Savage Fairview Heights, IL -- test mailing list test@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/test
Re: What is this mega-dvd-test?
On Sun, Oct 31, 2010 at 16:33, Robert G. (Doc) Savage dsav...@peaknet.net wrote: Bruno, I think I found at least part of the problem here. The Downloads directory in my home folder is bind mounted to an NFS filesystem on an RHEL5 server. For some reason the iso file is being severely truncated by that NFS filesystem: Here's the original file in a 1.1TB ext3 filesystem: Red Hat Enterprise Linux Server release 5.5 (Tikanga) Sunday - October 31, 2010 17:16:56 CDT [...@lion] /pub/fedora/linux/releases/14/Live $ ls -l total 5463812 -rw--- 1 doc doc 950 Oct 21 09:17 Fedora-14-Live-multi-CHECKSUM -rw--- 1 doc doc 5589458944 Oct 21 10:06 Fedora-14-Live-multi.iso drwxrwxr-x 2 doc doc 4096 Oct 26 20:02 i386 drwxrwxr-x 2 doc doc 4096 Oct 26 20:02 x86_64 Here's the NFS-exported version as seen on the F13 system, the one running l-i-t-d: Fedora release 13 (Goddard) Sunday - October 31, 2010 16:55:17 CDT [...@tiger] /net/lion/pub/fedora/linux/releases/14/Live $ ls -l total 5463812 -rw--- 1 doc doc 950 Oct 21 09:17 Fedora-14-Live-multi-CHECKSUM -rw--- 1 doc doc 1294491648 Oct 21 10:06 Fedora-14-Live-multi.iso drwxrwxr-x 2 doc doc 4096 Oct 26 20:02 i386 drwxrwxr-x 2 doc doc 4096 Oct 26 20:02 x86_64 Curiously, the difference in file sizes is precisely 4GB. Is this a bug, or normal behavior for NFS? Possibly a bug, depends on if the RHEL server is 64 bit or not, and you are using NFSv3 (and in TCP). It supposedly works in UDP but I have had problems myself with large files like that. --Doc Savage Fairview Heights, IL -- Stephen J Smoogen. The core skill of innovators is error recovery, not failure avoidance. Randy Nelson, President of Pixar University. Let us be kind, one to another, for most of us are fighting a hard battle. -- Ian MacLaren -- test mailing list test@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/test
Re: What is this mega-dvd-test?
On Thu, 2010-10-28 at 08:32 -0400, Richard Ryniker wrote: Fedora-14-Live-multi.iso is too large (5.2 gigabytes) for a normal DVD with capacity of 4.7 gigabytes or so. Aha! It must be intended for a USB flash drive with capacity of 8GB or greater... [r...@ryniker ryniker]# cmd/livecd-iso-to-disk --format --reset-mbr --overlay-size-mb 1024 --home-size-mb 1024 --unencrypted-home fedora/F14/Fedora-14-Live-multi.iso /dev/sdh1 Verifying image... /home/ryniker/fedora/F14/Fedora-14-Live-multi.iso: Could not get pvd data Unable to read the disc checksum from the primary volume descriptor. This probably means the disc was created without adding the checksum.Are you SURE you want to continue? Press Enter to continue or ctrl-c to abort WARNING: THIS WILL DESTROY ANY DATA ON /dev/sdh!!! Press Enter to continue or ctrl-c to abort Waiting for devices to settle... mkdosfs 3.0.1 (23 Nov 2008) ERROR: /home/ryniker/fedora/F14/Fedora-14-Live-multi.iso does not appear to be a Live image or DVD installer. Cleaning up to exit... [r...@ryniker ryniker]# [snip] Richard, I burned this oversized iso image to an 8.5GB DVD+R(DL) disc, then used it to successfully boot a 64-bit laptop with a BluRay drive. It displays a grub menu with (I think) sixteen separate entries. Like you, I'm running into trouble with livecd-iso-to-disk. I'm seeing a couple of different problems: # livecd-iso-to-disk --format --reset-mbr /home/doc/Downloads/Fedora-14-Live-multi.iso /dev/sdc Verifying image... /home/doc/Downloads/Fedora-14-Live-multi.iso: Could not get pvd data Unable to read the disc checksum from the primary volume descriptor. This probably means the disc was created without adding the checksum.Are you SURE you want to continue? Press Enter to continue or ctrl-c to abort WARNING: THIS WILL DESTROY ANY DATA ON /dev/sdc!!! Press Enter to continue or ctrl-c to abort Warning: The resulting partition is not properly aligned for best performance. Waiting for devices to settle... mkdosfs 3.0.9 (31 Jan 2010) mount: you must specify the filesystem type Cleaning up to exit... umount: /media/cdtmp.6Ci76u: not mounted This is on a fully-updated 32-bit F13 system, attempting to write the image to an 8GB USB drive formatted to FAT-32. --Doc Savage Fairview Heights, IL -- test mailing list test@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/test
Re: What is this mega-dvd-test?
On Sun, Oct 31, 2010 at 12:14:07AM -0500, Robert G. (Doc) Savage wrote: Like you, I'm running into trouble with livecd-iso-to-disk. I'm seeing a couple of different problems: Waiting for devices to settle... mkdosfs 3.0.9 (31 Jan 2010) mount: you must specify the filesystem type Cleaning up to exit... umount: /media/cdtmp.6Ci76u: not mounted This is on a fully-updated 32-bit F13 system, attempting to write the image to an 8GB USB drive formatted to FAT-32. Doesn't FAT32 have a 4 GB limit on file size? -- Scott Robbins PGP keyID EB3467D6 ( 1B48 077D 66F6 9DB0 FDC2 A409 FA54 EB34 67D6 ) gpg --keyserver pgp.mit.edu --recv-keys EB3467D6 Xander: Calm may work for Locutus of the Borg here, but I'm freaked out, and I intend to stay that way. -- test mailing list test@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/test
Re: What is this mega-dvd-test?
Richard Ryniker wrote: do you have more information, perhaps a reference to something that documents the goal of this mega-dvd effort? You might find this thread[1], created two days ago, interesting. [1] http://lists.fedoraproject.org/pipermail/test/2010-October/095021.html -- test mailing list test@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/test
Re: What is this mega-dvd-test?
On 10/27/2010 04:19 AM, Tommy He wrote: Hello, I wonder what this mega-dvd-test ISO is ? Is it some sort of all-desktop-environment bundle in one Live DVD? Correct this is an Multi Desktop DVD that ambassadors have been pushing through and is a essentially a show case for ambassadors to distribute to people at shows and stuff and it contains the live spins of Gnome, KDE XFCE and LXDE so you should be presented with four Grub boot entries Fedora Gnome, Fedora KDE, Fedora XFCE, and Fedora LXDE ( or something similar ). http://alt.fedoraproject.org/pub/alt/mega-dvd-test/Fedora-14-Live-multi/ If it is something new to F14 release, can we the testers play with it and fire up issues? It does not need any formal testing validation that has been taken care of by the individual spins and ambassadors themselves and far as I know this is the first time in Fedora history this is done so kudos to everyone involved I'm pretty sure it has been a bumpy ride pushing this through so certainly play around and poke at share you're thoughts and ideas with the rest of the community . JBG -- test mailing list test@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/test
