Re: environment group 'KDE Plasma Workspaces'
Richard Ryniker (ryni...@alum.mit.edu) said: > >No, they're arch-specific. (geode is 32-bit x86, omap is ARM.) > > That makes sense. Should yum understand this better? I mean, should the > group list specify architecture dependencies: some packages are needed > for one architecture, others needed for a different architecture? The group code in yum does not track 'arch' as a variable for packages. It could be changed to do so, in theory, but it doesn't now. If having arch-specific packages there listed as 'mandatory' is causing problems, they should be switched to 'default' in the interim. Bill -- test mailing list test@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/test
Re: environment group 'KDE Plasma Workspaces'
>No, they're arch-specific. (geode is 32-bit x86, omap is ARM.) That makes sense. Should yum understand this better? I mean, should the group list specify architecture dependencies: some packages are needed for one architecture, others needed for a different architecture? As things stand, I do not know how to (easily) distinguish cases such as those Rex Dieter fixed, which had missing packages due to incorrect names, from cases where a listed Mandatory Package is not used for the current architecture. From the yum man page: Groups are marked as "installed" if all mandatory packages are installed, or if a group doesn't have any mandatory packages then it is installed if any of the optional or default package are installed (when not in group_command=objects mode). It looks like yum will misunderstand a case like xorg-x11-drv-geode (not applicable for x86_64 architecture) and report that kde-desktop-envorinment is not installed because it requires base-x, for which xorg-x11-drv-geode is a Mandatory Package. This starts to look like my original complaint, where I thought kde-desktop-envorinment (aka 'KDE Plasma Workspaces') had been installed, but yum did not list it as an installed group. Bill, do you think there is a bug here, a documentation error (or words that could be improved), or am I simply barking up the wrong tree? -- test mailing list test@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/test
Re: environment group 'KDE Plasma Workspaces'
Richard Ryniker (ryni...@alum.mit.edu) said: > >These packages still exist, and haven't been removed or renamed as far > >as I can tell. > > Yum does not appear able to find them... do you think this is a local problem? No, they're arch-specific. (geode is 32-bit x86, omap is ARM.) Bill -- test mailing list test@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/test
Re: environment group 'KDE Plasma Workspaces'
>These packages still exist, and haven't been removed or renamed as far >as I can tell. Yum does not appear able to find them... do you think this is a local problem? [root@lenovo ryniker]# yum list updates Loaded plugins: langpacks, refresh-packagekit [root@lenovo ryniker]# yum repolist Loaded plugins: langpacks, refresh-packagekit repo id repo name status fedora/20/x86_64 Fedora 20 - x86_64 37714 updates/20/x86_64Fedora 20 - x86_64 - Updates 0 *updates-testing/20/x86_64 Fedora 20 - x86_64 - Test Updates 2066 repolist: 39780 [root@lenovo ryniker]# yum info xorg-x11-drv-geode Loaded plugins: langpacks, refresh-packagekit Error: No matching Packages to list [root@lenovo ryniker]# yum info xorg-x11-drv-omap Loaded plugins: langpacks, refresh-packagekit Error: No matching Packages to list [root@lenovo ryniker]# -- test mailing list test@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/test
Re: environment group 'KDE Plasma Workspaces'
Richard Ryniker wrote: >>just fixed that in comps too, thanks! > > Interested in others? > > Group: base-x > Mandatory Packages: >-xorg-x11-drv-geode >-xorg-x11-drv-omap What's the error here? These packages still exist, and haven't been removed or renamed as far as I can tell. > Group-Id: printing > Mandatory Packages: >-ghostscript-cups fixed (replaced with cups-filters) -- rex -- test mailing list test@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/test
Re: environment group 'KDE Plasma Workspaces'
>just fixed that in comps too, thanks! Interested in others? Group: base-x Mandatory Packages: -xorg-x11-drv-geode -xorg-x11-drv-omap Group-Id: printing Mandatory Packages: -ghostscript-cups -- test mailing list test@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/test
Re: environment group 'KDE Plasma Workspaces'
Richard Ryniker wrote: > There appear to be two "Mandatory Packages" named kdenetwork-kdnssd and > kdenetwork-kget that do not exist. For example: These were recently renamed to just kdnssd, kget respectively. just fixed that in comps too, thanks! -- Rex -- test mailing list test@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/test
Re: environment group 'KDE Plasma Workspaces'
Richard Ryniker (ryni...@alum.mit.edu) said: > I still find the (maybe my own peculiar) F20 situation confusing. For > example: I do not know for sure, but it's entirely possible that installing when there was both the group and the environment with the same name could have left your system in an inconsistent state. One of the yum developers might be able to say for sure. > I display information about the group kde-desktop and see: > > [root@lenovo ryniker]# yum -v group info kde-desktop > Not loading "blacklist" plugin, as it is disabled > Loading "langpacks" plugin > Loading "refresh-packagekit" plugin > Not loading "whiteout" plugin, as it is disabled > Adding en to language list > Config time: 0.418 > Yum version: 3.4.3 > Setting up Package Sacks > pkgsack time: 0.109 > group time: 0.264 > > Group: KDE >Group-Id: kde-desktop > rpmdb time: 0.000 >Description: The KDE Plasma Workspaces, a highly-configurable graphical > user interface which includes a panel, desktop, system icons and desktop > widgets, and many powerful KDE applications. >Mandatory Packages: > =akonadi-1.10.2-1.fc20.i686 fedora > > =akonadi-1.10.2-1.fc20.x86_64@fedora > > =akonadi-mysql-1.10.2-1.fc20.x86_64 @fedora > > =apper-0.8.1-1.fc20.x86_64 @fedora > > =appmenu-qt-0.2.6-4.fc20.i686fedora > > =appmenu-qt-0.2.6-4.fc20.x86_64 @fedora > > =ark-4.11.0-1.fc20.x86_64@fedora > > =bluedevil-2.0.0-0.1.20130621.fc20.i686 fedora > > =bluedevil-2.0.0-0.1.20130621.fc20.x86_64@fedora > > =cagibi-0.2.0-6.fc20.x86_64 @fedora > > cups-pk-helper-0.2.5-2.fc20.x86_64 @anaconda > > firewall-config-0.3.4-1.fc20.noarch @anaconda > > =gwenview-4.11.0-1.fc20.x86_64 @fedora > > =initial-setup-0.3.8-1.fc20.noarch > @updates-testing > =kamera-4.11.0-1.fc20.x86_64 @fedora > > =kamoso-2.0.2-12.fc20.x86_64 @fedora > > =kcalc-4.11.0-1.fc20.x86_64 @fedora > > =kcharselect-4.11.0-1.fc20.x86_64@fedora > > =kcm-gtk-0.5.3-14.fc20.x86_64@fedora > > =kcm_touchpad-0.3.1-10.fc20.x86_64 @fedora > > =kcolorchooser-4.11.0-1.fc20.x86_64 @fedora > > =kde-baseapps-4.11.0-1.fc20.x86_64 @fedora > > =kde-plasma-nm-0.9.3.0-6.fc20.i686 > updates-testing > =kde-plasma-nm-0.9.3.0-6.fc20.x86_64 > @updates-testing > =kde-plasma-nm-l2tp-0.9.3.0-6.fc20.x86_64 > @updates-testing > =kde-plasma-nm-openconnect-0.9.3.0-6.fc20.x86_64 > @updates-testing > =kde-plasma-nm-openswan-0.9.3.0-6.fc20.x86_64 > @updates-testing > =kde-plasma-nm-openvpn-0.9.3.0-6.fc20.x86_64 > @updates-testing > =kde-plasma-nm-pptp-0.9.3.0-6.fc20.x86_64 > @updates-testing > =kde-plasma-nm-vpnc-0.9.3.0-6.fc20.x86_64 > @updates-testing > =kde-print-manager-4.11.0-1.fc20.x86_64 @fedora > > =kde-runtime-4.11.0-1.fc20.i686 fedora > > =kde-runtime-4.11.0-1.fc20.x86_64@fedora > > =kde-settings-pulseaudio-20-1.fc20.noarch > @updates-testing > =kde-workspace-4.11.0-4.fc20.x86_64 @fedora > > =1:kdeaccessibility-4.11.0-1.fc20.noarch @fedora > > =6:kdegames-minimal-4.11.0-1.fc20.noarch @fedora > > =kdegraphics-strigi-analyzer-4.11.0-1.fc20.x86_64@fedora > > =kdegraphics-thumbnailers-4.11.0-1.fc20.x86_64 @fedora > > =6:kdelibs-4.11.0-2.fc20.i686fedora > > =6:kdelibs-4.11.0-2.fc20.x86_64 @fedora > > -kdenetwork-kdnssd > -kdenetwork-kget > =7:kdepim-4.11.0-1.fc20.x86_64 @fedora > > =kdeplasma-addons-4.11.0-1.fc20.x86_64 @fedora > > =kgpg-4.11.0-1.fc20.x86_64
Re: environment group 'KDE Plasma Workspaces'
I still find the (maybe my own peculiar) F20 situation confusing. For example: [root@lenovo ryniker]# yum -v group install kde-desktop-environment Not loading "blacklist" plugin, as it is disabled Loading "langpacks" plugin Loading "refresh-packagekit" plugin Not loading "whiteout" plugin, as it is disabled Adding en to language list Config time: 0.419 Yum version: 3.4.3 rpmdb time: 0.000 Setting up Package Sacks pkgsack time: 0.109 group time: 0.266 Skipping group core from environment kde-desktop-environment Skipping group multimedia from environment kde-desktop-environment Skipping group input-methods from environment kde-desktop-environment Skipping group guest-desktop-agents from environment kde-desktop-environment Skipping group base-x from environment kde-desktop-environment Skipping group fonts from environment kde-desktop-environment Skipping group hardware-support from environment kde-desktop-environment Skipping group dial-up from environment kde-desktop-environment Skipping group admin-tools from environment kde-desktop-environment Skipping group printing from environment kde-desktop-environment Skipping group kde-desktop from environment kde-desktop-environment Skipping group standard from environment kde-desktop-environment Warning: environment kde-desktop-environment does not exist. No packages in any requested group available to install or update [root@lenovo ryniker]# Yum is "Skipping group core from environment kde-desktop-environment" perhaps because this group is already installed, but why complain at the end "Warning: environment kde-desktop-environment does not exist."? Yum seems to have found a dozen groups that comprise the environment kde-desktop-environment. I display information about the group kde-desktop and see: [root@lenovo ryniker]# yum -v group info kde-desktop Not loading "blacklist" plugin, as it is disabled Loading "langpacks" plugin Loading "refresh-packagekit" plugin Not loading "whiteout" plugin, as it is disabled Adding en to language list Config time: 0.418 Yum version: 3.4.3 Setting up Package Sacks pkgsack time: 0.109 group time: 0.264 Group: KDE Group-Id: kde-desktop rpmdb time: 0.000 Description: The KDE Plasma Workspaces, a highly-configurable graphical user interface which includes a panel, desktop, system icons and desktop widgets, and many powerful KDE applications. Mandatory Packages: =akonadi-1.10.2-1.fc20.i686 fedora =akonadi-1.10.2-1.fc20.x86_64@fedora =akonadi-mysql-1.10.2-1.fc20.x86_64 @fedora =apper-0.8.1-1.fc20.x86_64 @fedora =appmenu-qt-0.2.6-4.fc20.i686fedora =appmenu-qt-0.2.6-4.fc20.x86_64 @fedora =ark-4.11.0-1.fc20.x86_64@fedora =bluedevil-2.0.0-0.1.20130621.fc20.i686 fedora =bluedevil-2.0.0-0.1.20130621.fc20.x86_64@fedora =cagibi-0.2.0-6.fc20.x86_64 @fedora cups-pk-helper-0.2.5-2.fc20.x86_64 @anaconda firewall-config-0.3.4-1.fc20.noarch @anaconda =gwenview-4.11.0-1.fc20.x86_64 @fedora =initial-setup-0.3.8-1.fc20.noarch @updates-testing =kamera-4.11.0-1.fc20.x86_64 @fedora =kamoso-2.0.2-12.fc20.x86_64 @fedora =kcalc-4.11.0-1.fc20.x86_64 @fedora =kcharselect-4.11.0-1.fc20.x86_64@fedora =kcm-gtk-0.5.3-14.fc20.x86_64@fedora =kcm_touchpad-0.3.1-10.fc20.x86_64 @fedora =kcolorchooser-4.11.0-1.fc20.x86_64 @fedora =kde-baseapps-4.11.0-1.fc20.x86_64 @fedora =kde-plasma-nm-0.9.3.0-6.fc20.i686 updates-testing =kde-plasma-nm-0.9.3.0-6.fc20.x86_64 @updates-testing =kde-plasma-nm-l2tp-0.9.3.0-6.fc20.x86_64 @updates-testing =kde-plasma-nm-openconnect-0.9.3.0-6.fc20.x86_64 @updates-testing =kde-plasma-nm-openswan-0.9.3.0-6.fc20.x86_64 @updates-testing =kde-plasma-nm-openvpn-0.9.3.0-6.fc20.x86_64 @updates-testing =kde-plasma-nm-pptp-0.9.3.0-6.fc20.x86_64 @updates-testing =kde-plasma-nm-vpnc-0.9.3.0-6.fc20.x86_64 @updates-testing
Re: environment group 'KDE Plasma Workspaces'
Bill Nottingham wrote: > Richard Ryniker (ryni...@alum.mit.edu) said: >> I believe the KDE environment is installed on my up-to-date F20 machine, >> but "yum group list" does not show it is installed. Suspecting it might >> not be *completely* installed, I tried to install it and yum complained: >> >> Warning: environment KDE Plasma Workspaces does not exist. > > There is both a group and environment with: > > KDE Plasma Workspaces > > One of them needs renamed, or things will be weird. OK, I renamed the one matching kde-desktop to just "KDE", to match others like "Gnome", "Xfce". Hopefully this will avoid any wierdness. -- rex -- test mailing list test@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/test
Re: environment group 'KDE Plasma Workspaces'
>There is both a group and environment with: > KDE Plasma Workspaces I presume you mean this is a repository problem. I tried "yum clean all" and that did not help, even though I understand this will reload all metadata (like group information) from the repository. Or do you mean I may have created this state by an attempt to install kde-desktop-environment when it was already installed? I think at worst that would tell me there is nothing to do; it should not create duplicate name problems. I looked at http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Features/YumGroupsAsObjects but do not think that is relevant. I thought about an attempt to remove the kde-desktop-environment then re-install it, but this is not something I need to fix: whether that made the situation better or worse, it probably becomes more difficult to learn just what happened to create this state. If someone thinks remove/re-install could provide useful information, I should be happy to try it. -- test mailing list test@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/test
Re: environment group 'KDE Plasma Workspaces'
Richard Ryniker (ryni...@alum.mit.edu) said: > I believe the KDE environment is installed on my up-to-date F20 machine, > but "yum group list" does not show it is installed. Suspecting it might > not be *completely* installed, I tried to install it and yum complained: > > Warning: environment KDE Plasma Workspaces does not exist. There is both a group and environment with: KDE Plasma Workspaces One of them needs renamed, or things will be weird. Bill -- test mailing list test@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/test
Re: environment group 'KDE Plasma Workspaces'
On Fri, 13 Sep 2013 06:47:09 -0400 Richard Ryniker wrote: ...snip... > > Thank you for your data; it seems only I see this effect. Perhaps this is due to: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Features/YumGroupsAsObjects Perhaps a 'yum group mark-remove' on the group and then install it again will bring it in? kevin signature.asc Description: PGP signature -- test mailing list test@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/test
Re: environment group 'KDE Plasma Workspaces'
Still bizarre; works for you, not for me. Today: [root@lenovo ryniker]# yum distro-sync full Loaded plugins: langpacks, refresh-packagekit No packages marked for distribution synchronization [root@lenovo ryniker]# yum groupinstall "KDE Plasma Workspaces" Loaded plugins: langpacks, refresh-packagekit Warning: environment KDE Plasma Workspaces does not exist. No packages in any requested group available to install or update [root@lenovo ryniker]# yum repolist Loaded plugins: langpacks, refresh-packagekit repo id repo name status fedora/20/x86_64 Fedora 20 - x86_64 37718 updates/20/x86_64Fedora 20 - x86_64 - Updates 0 updates-testing/20/x86_64Fedora 20 - x86_64 - Test Updates 1513 repolist: 39231 [root@lenovo ryniker]# I'll leave this alone for a while, in case somebody has a suggestion about how to learn more about why this occurs. When Alpha is released, I will re-install. Thank you for your data; it seems only I see this effect. -- test mailing list test@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/test
Re: environment group 'KDE Plasma Workspaces'
Also again: yum install @kde-desktop -- test mailing list test@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/test
Re: environment group 'KDE Plasma Workspaces'
[root@fab local]# yum grouplist | grep KDE KDE Plasma Workspaces [root@fab local]# yum groupinstall "KDE Plasma Workspaces" Loaded plugins: fastestmirror, langpacks, refresh-packagekit Loading mirror speeds from cached hostfile * rawhide: ftp.yz.yamagata-u.ac.jp * rpmfusion-free-rawhide: ftp.icm.edu.pl * rpmfusion-nonfree-rawhide: ftp.icm.edu.pl Warning: Group core does not have any packages to install. [cut] Ctrl-C... Also I tried yum groupinstall @KDE\ Plasma\ Workspaces -- test mailing list test@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/test
