Re: gnome-shell-extensions-alternative-status-menu installed by default?
2011/8/8 Andre Robatino robat...@fedoraproject.org: I'm considering filing a bug for gnome-shell-extensions-alternative-status-menu to be included in a default installation, considering that most users, including myself, seem to prefer having a Power Off... option (without having to use the Alt key), and I haven't seen anyone other than the Gnome devs object to the idea. Would this be feasible? I think that is a very interesting idea. Every user I know prefer the alternative-status-menu extension, and me to. I think that, as distribution, for the future release, would be a good idea to insert as default option of some gnome-shell-extension. This, in particoloar is not for us that know better Linux, but for make Gnome 3 easier for new user. Seems that even others distro are chosing that way. My 2c Alexjan -- test mailing list test@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/test -- Alexjan Carraturo -- Free Software User Group Italia administrator (http://www.fsugitalia.org) Fedora/OpenSUSE Ambassador member of FSFE Italian Team Twitter/Facebook/Identica: axjslack Blog: http://axjslack.wordpress.com -- -- test mailing list test@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/test
Re: gnome-shell-extensions-alternative-status-menu installed by default?
On 08/08/2011 05:19 PM, Alexjan Carraturo wrote: 2011/8/8 Andre Robatino robat...@fedoraproject.org: I'm considering filing a bug for gnome-shell-extensions-alternative-status-menu to be included in a default installation, considering that most users, including myself, seem to prefer having a Power Off... option (without having to use the Alt key), and I haven't seen anyone other than the Gnome devs object to the idea. Would this be feasible? I think that is a very interesting idea. Every user I know prefer the alternative-status-menu extension, and me to. I think that, as distribution, for the future release, would be a good idea to insert as default option of some gnome-shell-extension. This, in particoloar is not for us that know better Linux, but for make Gnome 3 easier for new user. Seems that even others distro are chosing that way. My 2c Alexjan Last time I had a chat with Owen he mentioned that there would be a fix for 3.2 . I didn't ask more but maybe we could just have faith? Fred -- test mailing list test@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/test
Re: gnome-shell-extensions-alternative-status-menu installed by default?
On 08/08/2011 08:46 AM, Andre Robatino wrote: I'm considering filing a bug for gnome-shell-extensions-alternative-status-menu to be included in a default installation, considering that most users, including myself, seem to prefer having a Power Off... option (without having to use the Alt key), and I haven't seen anyone other than the Gnome devs object to the idea. Would this be feasible? Each SIG is responsible for it's own spin so to get this included you need to bring this up on the Desktop list and the people that are responsible for the Desktop spins are the Gnome developers thus I would say if they rejected this in the first place they will reject this again. The only option I see for people that want to use desktop extension like the one you mention and frippery etc is to create their own spin and maintain it. Should not require more work than going through the spin process. So basically just go through the process duplicate the ks file for the live desktop and add to it the extension JBG -- test mailing list test@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/test
Re: gnome-shell-extensions-alternative-status-menu installed by default?
On 08/08/2011 02:16 PM, Andre Robatino wrote: I'm considering filing a bug for gnome-shell-extensions-alternative-status-menu to be included in a default installation, considering that most users, including myself, seem to prefer having a Power Off... option (without having to use the Alt key), and I haven't seen anyone other than the Gnome devs object to the idea. Would this be feasible? As the maintainer and use of this extension, I don't think Fedora should be installing extensions by default. As a general principle, if some extension is so popular that it must be installed by default to provide a better experience for end user, this functionality must be merged in GNOME Shell directly.Extensions are great for more fringe functionality or to prototype new features but they shouldn't be installed by default typically. From what I hear in the desktop summit, Owen Taylor seems to be interested in providing a power off option directly for the next version of GNOME and that should solve this particular concern Rahul -- test mailing list test@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/test
Re: gnome-shell-extensions-alternative-status-menu installed by default?
On 08/08/2011 03:24 PM, Andre Robatino wrote: What prompted me to suggest this was the comment https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=643457#c74 referring to http://www.golem.de/1108/85539.html (German article). Google's German translation isn't very readable but AFAICT it seemed to confirm the poster's claim that there wasn't expected to be a Power Off option in 3.2. It is easy enough to ask the source directly rather than relying on such news stories. Rahul -- test mailing list test@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/test
Re: gnome-shell-extensions-alternative-status-menu installed by default?
Rahul Sundaram metherid at gmail.com writes: I don't think Fedora should be installing extensions by default. I side with Rahul Sundaram. The default configuration should follow upstream choices as much as possible. If alternative choices are useful for a significant population of Fedora users, these should be bundled into a Fedora theme package which interested users may install should they prefer a distinctive (i.e. different from upstream defaults) Fedora look and feel. A Fedora theme package might contain a collection of parameter values different from default settings, plus dependencies that load additional packages to provide enhanced function. One advantage of this theme package approach: it defines what a Fedora theme means (at a specific point in time; it does not define an objective or design goal), and provides a structure in which this theme can be maintained through upstream changes, then propagated into future Fedora releases. It is likely there will be no consensus on exactly what changes to default values, or enhancements, are best. Multiple themes are possible. The theme package concept provides a capability to satisfy incompatible user preferences, while individuals endeavor to persuade upstream developers how to improve their designs. -- test mailing list test@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/test
Re: gnome-shell-extensions-alternative-status-menu installed by default?
On Mon, 2011-08-08 at 08:46 -0400, Richard Ryniker wrote: Rahul Sundaram metherid at gmail.com writes: I don't think Fedora should be installing extensions by default. I side with Rahul Sundaram. The default configuration should follow upstream choices as much as possible. Either way, such choices aren't really on topic for test list. This particular discussion would be best on the 'desktop' list. thanks! -- Adam Williamson Fedora QA Community Monkey IRC: adamw | Twitter: AdamW_Fedora | identi.ca: adamwfedora http://www.happyassassin.net -- test mailing list test@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/test
