Re: gnome-terminal can't display utf-8 characters anymore

2012-05-15 Thread Jonathan Kamens

On 08/05/12 10:53, Ed Greshko wrote:

FWIW.

I have recreated you problem by editing my /etc/sysconfig/i18n file to contain

#LANG="en_US.UTF-8"
LANG="en_US"
SYSFONT="True"

on my F17 Beta test system.  I then rebooted and I get exactly what you get

So, I'm confident that'll fix your problem

My /etc/sysconfig/i18n contains:

LANG="en_US.UTF-8"
SYSFONT="latarcyrheb-sun16"

It has not been modified since 2009.

So I am less confident than you.

  jik

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Re: gnome-terminal can't display utf-8 characters anymore

2012-05-08 Thread Ed Greshko
FWIW.

I have recreated you problem by editing my /etc/sysconfig/i18n file to contain

#LANG="en_US.UTF-8"
LANG="en_US"
SYSFONT="True"

on my F17 Beta test system.  I then rebooted and I get exactly what you get

So, I'm confident that'll fix your problem

Sorry I could not do it earlier.  My test systems were a bit mucked up.
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Re: gnome-terminal can't display utf-8 characters anymore

2012-05-08 Thread Ed Greshko
On 05/08/2012 08:37 PM, Jonathan Kamens wrote:
> On 05/06/2012 08:27 AM, Kevin DeKorte wrote:
>> Can you check your locale on the GDM login page? I had this problem
>> when I upgraded to F16, in that I could not see utf-8 characters in
>> the terminal. Turned out my locale was set to en_US.C or something
>> like that when it should have been en_US.UTF8. Changing that in GDM
>> solved it.
> I can't find any way to check my locale on the GDM login page. Am I missing 
> something?
>
> Once I've logged in, "set | grep ^L" in a GNOME terminal says LANG is set to
> "en_US". The variable GDM_LANG has the same value.
>
> Strangeness... When I click on my name while logged in and open System 
> Settings,
> and then click on Region and Language, the language that's set is "English 
> (United
> States) [ISO-8859-1]". If I click on "English" instead, which is a separate
> language in the listing, and then close the settings window, log out and log 
> back
> in, and open the settings again, it's /again/ set to "English (United States)
> [ISO-8859-1]". Is it a bug that the change to "English" doesn't stick?
>
>  

Well, I think your problem may be that your LANG is set to en_US and not 
en_US.UTF-8
as it should be.

If I'm not mistaken, the system default is contained in /etc/sysconfig/i18n.  
Mine
contains...

[egreshko@meimei sysconfig]$ cat i18n
LANG="en_US.UTF-8"
SYSFONT="latarcyrheb-sun16"

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Re: gnome-terminal can't display utf-8 characters anymore

2012-05-08 Thread Jonathan Kamens

On 05/06/2012 08:27 AM, Kevin DeKorte wrote:

Can you check your locale on the GDM login page? I had this problem
when I upgraded to F16, in that I could not see utf-8 characters in
the terminal. Turned out my locale was set to en_US.C or something
like that when it should have been en_US.UTF8. Changing that in GDM
solved it.
I can't find any way to check my locale on the GDM login page. Am I 
missing something?


Once I've logged in, "set | grep ^L" in a GNOME terminal says LANG is 
set to "en_US". The variable GDM_LANG has the same value.


Strangeness... When I click on my name while logged in and open System 
Settings, and then click on Region and Language, the language that's set 
is "English (United States) [ISO-8859-1]". If I click on "English" 
instead, which is a separate language in the listing, and then close the 
settings window, log out and log back in, and open the settings again, 
it's /again/ set to "English (United States) [ISO-8859-1]". Is it a bug 
that the change to "English" doesn't stick?


  jik

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Re: gnome-terminal can't display utf-8 characters anymore

2012-05-06 Thread Kevin DeKorte
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On 05/05/2012 10:54 PM, Ed Greshko wrote:
> On 05/06/2012 12:39 PM, Ed Greshko wrote:
>> On 05/06/2012 12:18 PM, Ed Greshko wrote:
>>> Wellthis may be "odd".
>>> 
>>> As I think you can see, the file name displays correctly in the
>>> email.
>>> 
>>> If I touch 09 ביילע.mp3"  I get a correct file name...
>>> 
>>> If I 7za x utf8.7z  I get this   09 ×?×?×?×?×¢.txt
>> FWIW  I created a file called 台北市松山.txt
>> 
>> 
> 
> Probably would have been a good idea to include these...
> 
> 

Can you check your locale on the GDM login page? I had this problem
when I upgraded to F16, in that I could not see utf-8 characters in
the terminal. Turned out my locale was set to en_US.C or something
like that when it should have been en_US.UTF8. Changing that in GDM
solved it.

Kevin


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Re: gnome-terminal can't display utf-8 characters anymore

2012-05-05 Thread Ed Greshko
On 05/06/2012 12:39 PM, Ed Greshko wrote:
> On 05/06/2012 12:18 PM, Ed Greshko wrote:
>> Wellthis may be "odd".
>>
>> As I think you can see, the file name displays correctly in the email.
>>
>> If I touch 09 ביילע.mp3"  I get a correct file name...
>>
>> If I 7za x utf8.7z  I get this   09 ×?×?×?×?×¢.txt
> FWIW  I created a file called 台北市松山.txt
>
>

Probably would have been a good idea to include these...


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Re: gnome-terminal can't display utf-8 characters anymore

2012-05-05 Thread Ed Greshko
On 05/06/2012 12:18 PM, Ed Greshko wrote:
> Wellthis may be "odd".
>
> As I think you can see, the file name displays correctly in the email.
>
> If I touch 09 ביילע.mp3"  I get a correct file name...
>
> If I 7za x utf8.7z  I get this   09 ×?×?×?×?×¢.txt

FWIW  I created a file called 台北市松山.txt


[egreshko@meimei hebrew]$ 7za a my 台北市松山.txt

7-Zip (A) 9.20  Copyright (c) 1999-2010 Igor Pavlov  2010-11-18
p7zip Version 9.20 (locale=en_US.UTF-8,Utf16=on,HugeFiles=on,4 CPUs)
Scanning

Creating archive my.7z


Everything is Ok
[egreshko@meimei hebrew]$ 7za l my.7z

7-Zip (A) 9.20  Copyright (c) 1999-2010 Igor Pavlov  2010-11-18
p7zip Version 9.20 (locale=en_US.UTF-8,Utf16=on,HugeFiles=on,4 CPUs)

Listing archive: my.7z

--
Path = my.7z
Type = 7z
Solid = -
Blocks = 0
Physical Size = 86
Headers Size = 86

   Date  TimeAttr Size   Compressed  Name
--- -    
2012-05-06 12:31:29 A00  台北市松山.txt
--- -    
 00  1 files, 0 folders


[egreshko@meimei hebrew]$ 7za a kam "09 ביילע.mp3"

7-Zip (A) 9.20  Copyright (c) 1999-2010 Igor Pavlov  2010-11-18
p7zip Version 9.20 (locale=en_US.UTF-8,Utf16=on,HugeFiles=on,4 CPUs)
Scanning

Creating archive kam.7z


Everything is Ok
[egreshko@meimei hebrew]$ 7za l kam.7z

7-Zip (A) 9.20  Copyright (c) 1999-2010 Igor Pavlov  2010-11-18
p7zip Version 9.20 (locale=en_US.UTF-8,Utf16=on,HugeFiles=on,4 CPUs)

Listing archive: kam.7z

--
Path = kam.7z
Type = 7z
Solid = -
Blocks = 0
Physical Size = 92
Headers Size = 92

   Date  TimeAttr Size   Compressed  Name
--- -    
2012-05-06 12:37:18 A00  09 ביילע.mp3
--- -    
 00  1 files, 0 folders


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Re: gnome-terminal can't display utf-8 characters anymore

2012-05-05 Thread Akshay Vyas
well i tried it

when i make the file with touch 09 ביילע it shows the same thing when
i do ls | grep 09
ביילע

well this really odd but i wuld like to test it again if you gt
another file in Hebrew


On Sun, May 6, 2012 at 12:18 AM, Ed Greshko  wrote:
> On 05/06/2012 12:07 PM, Jonathan Kamens wrote:
>> On 05/05/2012 11:58 PM, Ed Greshko wrote:
>>> For those of us not able to input Hebrew  Could you type in a sample?
>> Here's an example file name:
>>
>> 09 ביילע.mp3
>>
>> Having said that, it could get corrupted by email just as easily as by ls, 
>> so I've
>> attached a 7z file with a similar file name embedded in it (using 7z because 
>> I've
>> found it's the most reliable at preserving things like utf-8 in filenames). 
>> To
>> extract it, if you're not familiar with 7-zip on Linux, install the "p7zip" 
>> RPM and
>> then do "7za x utf8.7z".
>>
>
> Wellthis may be "odd".
>
> As I think you can see, the file name displays correctly in the email.
>
> If I touch 09 ביילע.mp3"  I get a correct file name...
>
> If I 7za x utf8.7z  I get this   09 ×?×?×?×?×¢.txt
>
>
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Re: gnome-terminal can't display utf-8 characters anymore

2012-05-05 Thread Ed Greshko
On 05/06/2012 12:07 PM, Jonathan Kamens wrote:
> On 05/05/2012 11:58 PM, Ed Greshko wrote:
>> For those of us not able to input Hebrew  Could you type in a sample?
> Here's an example file name:
>
> 09 ביילע.mp3
>
> Having said that, it could get corrupted by email just as easily as by ls, so 
> I've
> attached a 7z file with a similar file name embedded in it (using 7z because 
> I've
> found it's the most reliable at preserving things like utf-8 in filenames). To
> extract it, if you're not familiar with 7-zip on Linux, install the "p7zip" 
> RPM and
> then do "7za x utf8.7z".
>

Wellthis may be "odd".

As I think you can see, the file name displays correctly in the email.

If I touch 09 ביילע.mp3"  I get a correct file name...

If I 7za x utf8.7z  I get this   09 ×?×?×?×?×¢.txt


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Re: gnome-terminal can't display utf-8 characters anymore

2012-05-05 Thread Jonathan Kamens

On 05/05/2012 11:58 PM, Ed Greshko wrote:

For those of us not able to input Hebrew  Could you type in a sample?

Here's an example file name:

09 ביילע.mp3

Having said that, it could get corrupted by email just as easily as by 
ls, so I've attached a 7z file with a similar file name embedded in it 
(using 7z because I've found it's the most reliable at preserving things 
like utf-8 in filenames). To extract it, if you're not familiar with 
7-zip on Linux, install the "p7zip" RPM and then do "7za x utf8.7z".


Thanks,

  jik



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Re: gnome-terminal can't display utf-8 characters anymore

2012-05-05 Thread Ed Greshko
On 05/06/2012 11:53 AM, Jonathan Kamens wrote:
> Two additional things about this I've discovered...
>
> 1. Changing the encoding of the terminal to utf-8 in the Terminal | Set 
> Character
> Encoding menu doesn't help. It changes the garbage that is displayed, but it's
> still garbage.
>
> 2. If I do "echo *.mp3" instead of "ls", then it's closer to correct:
>
>
>
> Note that the correct Hebrew letters are displayed, but they're backward. I 
> seem to
> recall that's how things used to work, so the backward part isn't a 
> regression. The
> fact that the file names are displayed properly by echo but not by ls would 
> seem to
> suggest that the regression / bug / whatever is in ls?
>
>   jik
>

For those of us not able to input Hebrew  Could you type in a sample?

FWIW, my F17 system can't boot at the moment...  But my F16 system displays 
this just
fine...

台北市松山

as file name   Did a "touch 台北市松山" and then an ls.

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Re: gnome-terminal can't display utf-8 characters anymore

2012-05-05 Thread Jonathan Kamens

  
  
Two additional things about this I've discovered...

1. Changing the encoding of the terminal to utf-8 in the Terminal |
Set Character Encoding menu doesn't help. It changes the garbage
that is displayed, but it's still garbage.

2. If I do "echo *.mp3" instead of "ls", then it's closer to
correct:



Note that the correct Hebrew letters are displayed, but they're
backward. I seem to recall that's how things used to work, so the
backward part isn't a regression. The fact that the file names are
displayed properly by echo but not by ls would seem to suggest that
the regression / bug / whatever is in ls?

  jik
  

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