deja-dup package split

2014-10-17 Thread Rahul Sundaram
Hi

Just a quick heads up that I have split the deja-dup nautilus extension
into its own sub package (for Rawhide and F21 - rhbz#1152449).  While I
have added the sub package to the comps for fresh installations (f22 and
f21), existing users would only get the core package on updates and will
have to manually install deja-dup-nautilus sub package if they use the
extension.  Thanks!

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Re: deja-dup

2013-12-06 Thread Richard Vickery
On Fri, Dec 6, 2013 at 6:04 PM, Adam Williamson  wrote:

> On Sat, 2013-12-07 at 12:45 +1100, Ankur Sinha wrote:
> > On Fri, 2013-12-06 at 02:06 -0800, Adam Williamson wrote:
> > > in the cases I recall seeing, that wasn't it. It just never showed.
> >
> > It'd be a bug then. Working here:
> > http://ankursinha.fedorapeople.org/misc/dejadup-de-activities.png
>
> Like I said, it's transient. That's one reason I didn't report it yet:
> hard to nail down.
>
> But now I'm looking out for it, I've seen it several times just today.
> For me it always seems to be control-center applets, though. If I just
> hit super and type 'user', sometimes, the 'Users' panel isn't shown in
> the results. Typing extra letters doesn't help - so typing 's' to make
> it 'users' doesn't make it show up - but deleting the 'r' so it's now
> 'use' makes it show Displays, Mouse & Touchpad, and Online Accounts (but
> not Users!), and then typing the r again - so we're back to 'user' -
> makes Users show up (and the other three go away; they were matching on
> the word "use", I guess).
>
>
For me, after yum installing it because I thought that I had to after
typing a search couldn't find it and now can, I found it hidden in
utilities.
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Re: deja-dup

2013-12-06 Thread Adam Williamson
On Sat, 2013-12-07 at 12:45 +1100, Ankur Sinha wrote:
> On Fri, 2013-12-06 at 02:06 -0800, Adam Williamson wrote:
> > in the cases I recall seeing, that wasn't it. It just never showed.
> 
> It'd be a bug then. Working here:
> http://ankursinha.fedorapeople.org/misc/dejadup-de-activities.png

Like I said, it's transient. That's one reason I didn't report it yet:
hard to nail down.

But now I'm looking out for it, I've seen it several times just today.
For me it always seems to be control-center applets, though. If I just
hit super and type 'user', sometimes, the 'Users' panel isn't shown in
the results. Typing extra letters doesn't help - so typing 's' to make
it 'users' doesn't make it show up - but deleting the 'r' so it's now
'use' makes it show Displays, Mouse & Touchpad, and Online Accounts (but
not Users!), and then typing the r again - so we're back to 'user' -
makes Users show up (and the other three go away; they were matching on
the word "use", I guess).

Doesn't happen 100% of the time, though, and I can't find any useful
debugging output in any logs when it does happen :/
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Re: deja-dup

2013-12-06 Thread Ankur Sinha
On Fri, 2013-12-06 at 02:06 -0800, Adam Williamson wrote:
> in the cases I recall seeing, that wasn't it. It just never showed.

It'd be a bug then. Working here:
http://ankursinha.fedorapeople.org/misc/dejadup-de-activities.png

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Re: deja-dup

2013-12-06 Thread Adam Williamson
On Fri, 2013-12-06 at 18:37 +1100, Ankur Sinha wrote:
> On Thu, 2013-12-05 at 22:31 -0800, Richard Vickery wrote:
> > If it happened to you, Adam, as well, I wonder if it might be a bug?
> > Does if happen to others? Being somewhat ignorant, I thought the
> > problem was me and how I installed it, which is why I brought it up.
> > It would be interesting to find out the randomness of this thing.
> > 
> 
> Well, it does happen. It's probably due to latency in the search
> results. If you hit in "de" and wait a bit, it does show up. 

in the cases I recall seeing, that wasn't it. It just never showed.
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Re: deja-dup

2013-12-05 Thread Ankur Sinha
On Thu, 2013-12-05 at 22:31 -0800, Richard Vickery wrote:
> If it happened to you, Adam, as well, I wonder if it might be a bug?
> Does if happen to others? Being somewhat ignorant, I thought the
> problem was me and how I installed it, which is why I brought it up.
> It would be interesting to find out the randomness of this thing.
> 

Well, it does happen. It's probably due to latency in the search
results. If you hit in "de" and wait a bit, it does show up. 
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Re: deja-dup

2013-12-05 Thread poma
On 06.12.2013 07:31, Richard Vickery wrote:

> Unrelated question: If you add the initial of your last name rather than
> the full name, it seems that you don't like your name. I know why woman do
> it - to free themselves from patriarchy, but why do men do it?

Perhaps Adam is a woman.


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Re: deja-dup

2013-12-05 Thread Adam Williamson
On Thu, 2013-12-05 at 22:31 -0800, Richard Vickery wrote:
> If it happened to you, Adam, as well, I wonder if it might be a bug?
> Does if happen to others? Being somewhat ignorant, I thought the
> problem was me and how I installed it, which is why I brought it up.
> It would be interesting to find out the randomness of this thing.

I'd want to get a bit more useful info before filing a bug - that's why
I didn't file one before, never quite budgeted the time to at least
reproduce it while running shell from a console, or something like that
- but yeah, if we can confirm we're more or less seeing the same thing,
it would be worth filing with data.

> Unrelated question: If you add the initial of your last name rather
> than the full name, it seems that you don't like your name. I know why
> woman do it - to free themselves from patriarchy, but why do men do
> it?

Oh, nothing so dramatic. I've used "adamw" as my personal signature for
many many years now (I wrote that last mail on my phone, and forgot to
switch signatures). I use "adamw" as my online id generally for
everything I can; I'd be adamw at redhat if it had been available (it
wasn't and I'm not, so don't mail me there :>). When it's not, I usually
use "adamwill", which is my fedora id. I guess "adamw" / "adamwill" is
my online nickname, simply enough; unlike a lot of people I was too
boring/unimaginative to ever come up with some kind of alternative
online ID.

'adamwilliamson' is a bit long for such contexts (and I started using
'adamw' back in the days when lots of things were still 8 character
maximums). That's all there is to it =) Sometimes I hand-edit a sig with
my full name in it, when writing to newspapers and things like that. But
for anything casual and non-work-y, it's just 'adamw'. :P

(very VERY early in my internet career I had a much longer and more
ornate sig, then I decided it was too showy and decided to go
minimalist, and I've stuck with it ever since. On what I think was my
very first post to a public newsgroup I attached a 'sig' that was two
pages long and ten times as long as my post, and promptly got about
sixteen lessons in netiquette (which people still talked about back
then) by return of post. ahh, the good times...Google Groups probably
has that post archived, if you want to go digging for it.)
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Re: deja-dup

2013-12-05 Thread Richard Vickery
On Thu, Dec 5, 2013 at 8:43 PM, Adam Williamson wrote:

> Richard Vickery  wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>> On Thu, Dec 5, 2013 at 5:00 PM, Richard Vickery <
>> richard.vicker...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Thu, Dec 5, 2013 at 4:39 PM, Ankur Sinha wrote:
>>>
>>>> On Thu, 2013-12-05 at 16:08 -0800, Richard Vickery wrote:
>>>> > Thanks! deja-dup-preferences worked! Of course, you were probably
>>>> > well-aware of this.
>>>>
>>>> It's there in the applications menu too. Searching for "deja dup" or
>>>> "backup" in activities takes you right to it. Can you elaborate on what
>>>> you tried when you couldn't locate the GUI?
>>>> --
>>>> Thanks,
>>>> Warm regards,
>>>> Ankur (FranciscoD)
>>>>
>>>> http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/User:Ankursinha
>>>
>>>
>>> I did a GUI search and it showed nothing; as soon as I got to the "a" in
>>> "deja", nothing showed, yet I yum installed it before this.
>>>
>>
>> now it isshowing
>>
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> You know, I've actually seen something similar where an overview search
> for something I know exists doesn't show it, and it does seem to change per
> letter. It seemed too vague and transient to report, but maybe it would
> bear looking at.
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If it happened to you, Adam, as well, I wonder if it might be a bug? Does
if happen to others? Being somewhat ignorant, I thought the problem was me
and how I installed it, which is why I brought it up. It would be
interesting to find out the randomness of this thing.

Unrelated question: If you add the initial of your last name rather than
the full name, it seems that you don't like your name. I know why woman do
it - to free themselves from patriarchy, but why do men do it?
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Re: deja-dup

2013-12-05 Thread Adam Williamson
On Thu, 2013-12-05 at 17:03 -0800, Richard Vickery wrote:
> 
> 
> On Thu, Dec 5, 2013 at 5:00 PM, Richard Vickery
>  wrote:
> 
> 
> 
> On Thu, Dec 5, 2013 at 4:39 PM, Ankur Sinha
>  wrote:
> On Thu, 2013-12-05 at 16:08 -0800, Richard Vickery
> wrote:
> > Thanks! deja-dup-preferences worked! Of course, you
> were probably
> > well-aware of this.
> 
> 
> It's there in the applications menu too. Searching for
> "deja dup" or
> "backup" in activities takes you right to it. Can you
> elaborate on what
> you tried when you couldn't locate the GUI?
> --
> Thanks,
> Warm regards,
> Ankur (FranciscoD)
> 
> http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/User:Ankursinha
> 
> 
> I did a GUI search and it showed nothing; as soon as I got to
> the "a" in "deja", nothing showed, yet I yum installed it
> before this.
> 
> 
> now it isshowing

You know, I've actually seen something similar where an overview search
for something I know exists doesn't show it, and it does seem to change
per letter. It seemed too vague and transient to report, but maybe it
would bear looking at.
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Re: deja-dup

2013-12-05 Thread Richard Vickery
On Thu, Dec 5, 2013 at 5:00 PM, Richard Vickery  wrote:

>
>
>
> On Thu, Dec 5, 2013 at 4:39 PM, Ankur Sinha wrote:
>
>> On Thu, 2013-12-05 at 16:08 -0800, Richard Vickery wrote:
>> > Thanks! deja-dup-preferences worked! Of course, you were probably
>> > well-aware of this.
>>
>> It's there in the applications menu too. Searching for "deja dup" or
>> "backup" in activities takes you right to it. Can you elaborate on what
>> you tried when you couldn't locate the GUI?
>> --
>> Thanks,
>> Warm regards,
>> Ankur (FranciscoD)
>>
>> http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/User:Ankursinha
>
>
> I did a GUI search and it showed nothing; as soon as I got to the "a" in
> "deja", nothing showed, yet I yum installed it before this.
>

now it isshowing
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Re: deja-dup

2013-12-05 Thread Richard Vickery
On Thu, Dec 5, 2013 at 4:39 PM, Ankur Sinha  wrote:

> On Thu, 2013-12-05 at 16:08 -0800, Richard Vickery wrote:
> > Thanks! deja-dup-preferences worked! Of course, you were probably
> > well-aware of this.
>
> It's there in the applications menu too. Searching for "deja dup" or
> "backup" in activities takes you right to it. Can you elaborate on what
> you tried when you couldn't locate the GUI?
> --
> Thanks,
> Warm regards,
> Ankur (FranciscoD)
>
> http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/User:Ankursinha


I did a GUI search and it showed nothing; as soon as I got to the "a" in
"deja", nothing showed, yet I yum installed it before this.
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Re: deja-dup

2013-12-05 Thread Ankur Sinha
On Thu, 2013-12-05 at 16:08 -0800, Richard Vickery wrote:
> Thanks! deja-dup-preferences worked! Of course, you were probably
> well-aware of this. 

It's there in the applications menu too. Searching for "deja dup" or
"backup" in activities takes you right to it. Can you elaborate on what
you tried when you couldn't locate the GUI?
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Re: deja-dup

2013-12-05 Thread Richard Vickery
On Thu, Dec 5, 2013 at 2:36 PM, Matthias Clasen  wrote:

> On Thu, 2013-12-05 at 13:31 -0800, Richard Vickery wrote:
> > Hi gang,
> >
> >
> > I've got my files backed up with the deja dup. Now I have found that
> > the program doesn't have an easy GUI. Is there a reason that we have
> > neglected this? If only I knew how to take its inclusion on myself -
> > how to update programs... Of course, there might be a reason that I'm
> > unaware of as to why it was neither included in F20 nor has the GUI
> > that it once did.
>
> I still see the same UI that it always had. Run deja-dup-preferences, or
> search for 'Backup' in the gnome-shell app picker.
>
> To see the initial welcome screen again, you may have to
>
>  gsettings set org.gnome.DejaDup welcomed false
>
>
>
> --
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Thanks! deja-dup-preferences worked! Of course, you were probably
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Re: deja-dup

2013-12-05 Thread Matthias Clasen
On Thu, 2013-12-05 at 13:31 -0800, Richard Vickery wrote:
> Hi gang,
> 
> 
> I've got my files backed up with the deja dup. Now I have found that
> the program doesn't have an easy GUI. Is there a reason that we have
> neglected this? If only I knew how to take its inclusion on myself -
> how to update programs... Of course, there might be a reason that I'm
> unaware of as to why it was neither included in F20 nor has the GUI
> that it once did.

I still see the same UI that it always had. Run deja-dup-preferences, or
search for 'Backup' in the gnome-shell app picker.

To see the initial welcome screen again, you may have to

 gsettings set org.gnome.DejaDup welcomed false



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deja-dup

2013-12-05 Thread Richard Vickery
Hi gang,

I've got my files backed up with the deja dup. Now I have found that the
program doesn't have an easy GUI. Is there a reason that we have neglected
this? If only I knew how to take its inclusion on myself - how to update
programs... Of course, there might be a reason that I'm unaware of as to
why it was neither included in F20 nor has the GUI that it once did.

Richard
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