Re: Apache-Test subdirectory has moved (again)

2005-02-12 Thread Stas Bekman
Geoffrey Young wrote:
hi all...
we (uh, I) kinda messed up during the first migration go-round and
Apache-Test has moved once again, this time to a more svn-compliant
directory structure.  hopefully this will be the final resting place, at
least for a while :)
the Apache-Test/ subdirectory of the perl-framework has migrated to a new
location:
  https://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/perl/Apache-Test/trunk
what this means for you is that you need to manually adjust your checkout.
again, I wasn't able to make this happen using anything short of
  $ rm -rf Apache-Test/
  $ svn update
but if you have a better way I'm sure we all would appreciate it.  if you
have any problems with access or permissions, just let me know and we'll get
it sorted out.
Always proves not to rush to update things :) I still didn't do any removes 
:)
and many appologies for making this more painful than it needed to be.
Thanks for doing the moving work, Geoff and Justin!
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Re: Apache-Test subdirectory has moved (again)

2005-02-12 Thread Stas Bekman
Geoffrey Young wrote:
hi all...
we (uh, I) kinda messed up during the first migration go-round and
Apache-Test has moved once again, this time to a more svn-compliant
directory structure.  hopefully this will be the final resting place, at
least for a while :)
the Apache-Test/ subdirectory of the perl-framework has migrated to a new
location:
  https://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/perl/Apache-Test/trunk
what this means for you is that you need to manually adjust your checkout.
again, I wasn't able to make this happen using anything short of
  $ rm -rf Apache-Test/
  $ svn update
It doesn't work for me.
% rm -rf Apache-Test/
% svn up Apache-Test
At revision 153479.
it doesn't fetch the new Apache-Test.
It seems that only a completely new checkout of the whole modperl-2.0 
brings it in.

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Re: Apache-Test subdirectory has moved (again)

2005-02-12 Thread Stas Bekman
Geoffrey Young wrote:
It doesn't work for me.
% rm -rf Apache-Test/
% svn up Apache-Test
At revision 153479.
it doesn't fetch the new Apache-Test.
It seems that only a completely new checkout of the whole modperl-2.0
brings it in.

hmm, it worked for me.  justin said something about needing to svn up twice
on occasion, so maybe that was it - once to update the svn:externals
property under mod_perl and one to use that new property to fetch A-T?
Yes, that was it. But one needs to run 'svn up' *twice* at the root of the 
checkout.

Thanks, Geoff.
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Re: Apache-Test subdirectory has moved

2005-02-10 Thread Geoffrey Young

 yay, php docs at perl.apache.org :)

they may be more popular, but I think we still win when it comes to
open-source altruism :)

 sure.  but what I'm hoping to accomplish is a more coherent set of
 documentation for Apache-Test that transcends what we've done (and
 documented well) over in mod_perl-land.  so shuffling things about would
 help that I think.  you?
 
 
 I'm all for it!

cool.  I'm going to spend some time over the next few days trying to get
this situated, then.

 
 should there be Apache-Test/dist too? or should the CPAN distribution be
 sufficient?

we can do that, although http://search.cpan.org/dist/Apache-Test/ is just as
good.  but if we want to mirror the way we do mod_perl then we can have
dist/ as well, no problem.

 
 also we may want to add a /Apache-Test/snapshot for svn-impaired users.

that's a good idea.  I'll see if I can find the snapshot scripts or talk to
whoever I need to to get that setup.

--Geoff


Re: Apache-Test subdirectory has moved

2005-02-10 Thread Stas Bekman
Geoffrey Young wrote:
[...]
cool.  I'm going to spend some time over the next few days trying to get
this situated, then.

should there be Apache-Test/dist too? or should the CPAN distribution be
sufficient?

we can do that, although http://search.cpan.org/dist/Apache-Test/ is just as
good.  but if we want to mirror the way we do mod_perl then we can have
dist/ as well, no problem.
it doesn't matter, less work for us w/o it.
also we may want to add a /Apache-Test/snapshot for svn-impaired users.

that's a good idea.  I'll see if I can find the snapshot scripts or talk to
whoever I need to to get that setup.
geoff++
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Re: Apache-Test subdirectory has moved

2005-02-09 Thread Stas Bekman
Geoffrey Young wrote:
the Apache-Test/ subdirectory of the perl-framework has migrated to a new
location:
  https://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/perl/Apache-Test
what this means for you is that you need to manually adjust your checkout
  $ rm -rf Apache-Test/
  $ svn update
ugh, rm is not a good idea if you have modified files in it. should svn 
switch somehow do the trick instead?

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Re: Apache-Test subdirectory has moved

2005-02-09 Thread Geoffrey Young


Stas Bekman wrote:
 Geoffrey Young wrote:
 
 the Apache-Test/ subdirectory of the perl-framework has migrated to a new
 location:

   https://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/perl/Apache-Test

 what this means for you is that you need to manually adjust your checkout

   $ rm -rf Apache-Test/
   $ svn update
 
 
 ugh, rm is not a good idea if you have modified files in it. should svn
 switch somehow do the trick instead?

it probably should but it doesn't.  just copy your modified files to
someplace safe, do the update, then move then back.

--Geoff



Re: Apache-Test subdirectory has moved

2005-02-09 Thread Geoffrey Young

 Also Geoff please don't forget to update the documentation. Both inside
 the module and at perl.apache.org docs. Thanks.

I couldn't find any mentions of the location of the repository outside of
README-SVN.  do you know of others?

additionally, we should probably update httpd.apache.org/test and create a
home for Apache-Test under perl.apache.org.

--Geoff


Re: Apache-Test subdirectory has moved

2005-02-09 Thread Stas Bekman
Geoffrey Young wrote:
Also Geoff please don't forget to update the documentation. Both inside
the module and at perl.apache.org docs. Thanks.

I couldn't find any mentions of the location of the repository outside of
README-SVN.  do you know of others?
if you don't find any with grep, then there are none. So we should add one 
then :)

additionally, we should probably update httpd.apache.org/test and create a
home for Apache-Test under perl.apache.org.
I see that you added test/ but it's probably not the most intuitive 
naming. I think perl.apache.org/Apache-Test/ is more sensible.

And maybe moving testing.pod there would be great too. 
s/testing.pod/tutorial.pod/?

And of course links to it need to be adjusted too, to reflect the new 
location. (and Apache/README and other docs, like .pm files)

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Re: Apache-Test subdirectory has moved

2005-02-09 Thread Stas Bekman
Stas Bekman wrote:
Geoffrey Young wrote:
Also Geoff please don't forget to update the documentation. Both inside
the module and at perl.apache.org docs. Thanks.

I couldn't find any mentions of the location of the repository outside of
README-SVN.  do you know of others?

if you don't find any with grep, then there are none. So we should add 
one then :)

additionally, we should probably update httpd.apache.org/test and 
create a
home for Apache-Test under perl.apache.org.

I see that you added test/ but it's probably not the most intuitive 
naming. I think perl.apache.org/Apache-Test/ is more sensible.

And maybe moving testing.pod there would be great too. 
s/testing.pod/tutorial.pod/?

And of course links to it need to be adjusted too, to reflect the new 
location. (and Apache/README and other docs, like .pm files)
and probably a rewrite rule should be added too for those who link 
directly to that URL.

http://perl.apache.org/docs/general/testing/testing.html#Extending_Configuration_Setup
of course we could avoid all that, by keeping the tutorial where it is, 
and just add a link from config.cfg to it.

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Re: Apache-Test subdirectory has moved

2005-02-09 Thread Geoffrey Young

 if you don't find any with grep, then there are none. So we should add
 one then :)

:)

yes, now that it's officially ours we should do more to publicise it.


 additionally, we should probably update httpd.apache.org/test and
 create a
 home for Apache-Test under perl.apache.org.



 I see that you added test/ but it's probably not the most intuitive
 naming. I think perl.apache.org/Apache-Test/ is more sensible.

that's cool.

additionally I think we should have subdirectories for each of the supported
languages

/Apache-Test/perl
/Apache-Test/php
/Apache-Test/parrot (someday soon)

and so on.  in fact, it was the need for a home for php-related docs and
whatnot that prompted this move in the first place ;)


 And maybe moving testing.pod there would be great too.
 s/testing.pod/tutorial.pod/?

yes, specifically under /Apache-Test/perl was what I was going to suggest.


 And of course links to it need to be adjusted too, to reflect the new
 location. (and Apache/README and other docs, like .pm files)

yes.

 
 
 and probably a rewrite rule should be added too for those who link
 directly to that URL.
 
 http://perl.apache.org/docs/general/testing/testing.html#Extending_Configuration_Setup

good idea.  from an .htaccess file or do we do that in the core httpd.conf?
 
 
 of course we could avoid all that, by keeping the tutorial where it is,
 and just add a link from config.cfg to it.

sure.  but what I'm hoping to accomplish is a more coherent set of
documentation for Apache-Test that transcends what we've done (and
documented well) over in mod_perl-land.  so shuffling things about would
help that I think.  you?

--Geoff


Apache-Test subdirectory has moved

2005-02-08 Thread Geoffrey Young
the Apache-Test/ subdirectory of the perl-framework has migrated to a new
location:

  https://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/perl/Apache-Test

what this means for you is that you need to manually adjust your checkout

  $ rm -rf Apache-Test/
  $ svn update

to get the perl-framework running smoothly again.  if you have any problems
with access or permissions, just let me know and we'll get it sorted out.

part of the reason we did this migration was to separate testing activities
from the development of the Apache-Test engine.  to that end, two new
mailings lists were created:

  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  [EMAIL PROTECTED]

so, if you want to follow Apache-Test development you will want to subscribe
to one or both of those mailing lists via sending an empty email to

  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  [EMAIL PROTECTED]

although I suspect that we will all be following [EMAIL PROTECTED]
as well, the use of the new dev list is encouraged for ongoing discussions
directly related to Apache-Test.

--Geoff