Re: [TeX-music] Graces for English Virginal-Music

2006-04-10 Thread Hermann Hinsch
Am Montag, 10. April 2006 15:43 schrieb Don Simons:
> I have absolutely no idea what you are asking for. If the line were
> transparent, you wouldn't be able to see it at all! What am I missing?
>
> --Don Simons

Don, I must apologize for my last and the former messages. I didn't recognized 
that the suppressing of the note lines around the fore and back fall only 
occured viewing the dvi output and not in the ps and pdf file.

Hermann

>
> > -Original Message-
> > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Hermann
> > Hinsch
> > Sent: Monday, April 10, 2006 6:15 AM
> > To: Typesetting music with TeX
> > Subject: Re: [TeX-music] Graces for English Virginal-Music
> >
> > Am Sonntag, 9. April 2006 01:27 schrieb Don Simons:
> > > Here's an example of how to construct the "shake" using psline.
> >
> > I've shown
> >
> > > you how to invoke it directly and also one way to get pmx to
> >
> > post it with
> >
> > > "os":
> > >
> > > 
> > > 1 1 4 4 4 4 0 0
> > > 1 1 20 0
> > >
> > > t
> > > .\
> > > \\makeatletter\
> > > [EMAIL PROTECTED]@th.7pt\
> > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > \\special{ps: [EMAIL PROTECTED] begin ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) ([EMAIL 
> > > PROTECTED])
> >
> > ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) DLN end}}\
> >
> > > \\makeatother\
> >
> > \\def\eshake#1{\zcharnote{#1}{\kern2pt\lower.8\internote\hbox{\psl
>
> ine{8pt}{
>
> >6 pt}}\
> > \\kern-2pt\raise0\internote\hbox{\psline{8pt}{6pt\
> > \\let\mtr\eshake\
> > Ap
> > c45 \eshake{10}\ g c g os /
> > 
> >
> > The fore fall, back fall, and "plain note and shake" can be built up
> > similarly.
>
> I could successfully create these graces but there remains a problem as the
> fore fall and back fall are to be placed near a note within the stave.
> Would it be possible to define psline so that the lines would be
> transparent?
>
> Hermann
>
> > To do the "shake turned" you'll need a semicircle and I don't
> > know how to do that in general. There is a font circlew1 that has a
> > semicircle in it, but I don't have a postscript version of the font and
> > have no control over the thickness of the line. Maybe someone else can
>
> tell
>
> > us how to make TeX draw a circle using postscript commands analogous to
> > psline.
> >
> > In any event, you'll have to create a postscript file before you can see
> > the constructions that use psline, and if you don't use Ap it doesn't
> > work (I can't remember exactly why).
> >
> > --Don Simons
>
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Re: [TeX-music] Graces for English Virginal-Music

2006-04-10 Thread Hermann Hinsch
Am Montag, 10. April 2006 15:43 schrieb Don Simons:
> I have absolutely no idea what you are asking for. If the line were
> transparent, you wouldn't be able to see it at all! What am I missing?
>
> --Don Simons
>

Sorry about my obscure message. What I wanted to say is that the line of the 
fore and back fall is surrounded by a field (which is the effect of \hbox I 
suppose) which suppresses the line of the staff within this field.

This is what I have done:

1 1 4 4 4 4 0 0
1 1 20 0

t
./
\\makeatletter\
[EMAIL PROTECTED]@th.7pt\
[EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED]
\\special{ps: [EMAIL PROTECTED] begin ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) 
([EMAIL PROTECTED]) DLN end}}\
\\makeatother\
\\def\eshake#1{\zcharnote{#1}{\kern2pt\lower.8\internote\hbox{\psline{6pt}
{4pt}}\
\\kern-1.5pt\raise0\internote\hbox{\psline{6pt}{4pt\
\\let\mtr\eshake\
\\def\pshake#1{\zcharnote{#1}{\kern2pt\lower.8\internote\hbox{\psline{6pt}
{4pt}}\
\\kern-1.5pt\raise0\internote\hbox{\psline{6pt}{4pt}}\
\\kern-3.3pt\raise.2\internote\hbox{\psline{5pt}{-5pt\
\\def\ffall#1{\zcharnote{#1}{\loffset{0.5}{\lower5\internote\hbox{\psline{4pt}
{8pt}\
\\def\bfall#1{\zcharnote{#1}{\roffset{0.5}
{\raise1.3\internote\hbox{\psline{-4pt}{8pt}\

Ap
\bfall{5}\ c45 \eshake{10}\ g \pshake{11}\ c \ffall{2}\  g | \bfall{3}\ a0 /

Hermann

> > -Original Message-
> > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Hermann
> > Hinsch
> > Sent: Monday, April 10, 2006 6:15 AM
> > To: Typesetting music with TeX
> > Subject: Re: [TeX-music] Graces for English Virginal-Music
> >
> > Am Sonntag, 9. April 2006 01:27 schrieb Don Simons:
> > > Here's an example of how to construct the "shake" using psline.
> >
> > I've shown
> >
> > > you how to invoke it directly and also one way to get pmx to
> >
> > post it with
> >
> > > "os":
> > >
> > > 
> > > 1 1 4 4 4 4 0 0
> > > 1 1 20 0
> > >
> > > t
> > > .\
> > > \\makeatletter\
> > > [EMAIL PROTECTED]@th.7pt\
> > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > \\special{ps: [EMAIL PROTECTED] begin ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) ([EMAIL 
> > > PROTECTED])
> >
> > ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) DLN end}}\
> >
> > > \\makeatother\
> >
> > \\def\eshake#1{\zcharnote{#1}{\kern2pt\lower.8\internote\hbox{\psl
>
> ine{8pt}{
>
> >6 pt}}\
> > \\kern-2pt\raise0\internote\hbox{\psline{8pt}{6pt\
> > \\let\mtr\eshake\
> > Ap
> > c45 \eshake{10}\ g c g os /
> > 
> >
> > The fore fall, back fall, and "plain note and shake" can be built up
> > similarly.
>
> I could successfully create these graces but there remains a problem as the
> fore fall and back fall are to be placed near a note within the stave.
> Would it be possible to define psline so that the lines would be
> transparent?
>
> Hermann
>
> > To do the "shake turned" you'll need a semicircle and I don't
> > know how to do that in general. There is a font circlew1 that has a
> > semicircle in it, but I don't have a postscript version of the font and
> > have no control over the thickness of the line. Maybe someone else can
>
> tell
>
> > us how to make TeX draw a circle using postscript commands analogous to
> > psline.
> >
> > In any event, you'll have to create a postscript file before you can see
> > the constructions that use psline, and if you don't use Ap it doesn't
> > work (I can't remember exactly why).
> >
> > --Don Simons
>
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RE: [TeX-music] Graces for English Virginal-Music

2006-04-10 Thread Don Simons
I have absolutely no idea what you are asking for. If the line were
transparent, you wouldn't be able to see it at all! What am I missing?

--Don Simons

> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Hermann
> Hinsch
> Sent: Monday, April 10, 2006 6:15 AM
> To: Typesetting music with TeX
> Subject: Re: [TeX-music] Graces for English Virginal-Music
>
>
> Am Sonntag, 9. April 2006 01:27 schrieb Don Simons:
> > Here's an example of how to construct the "shake" using psline.
> I've shown
> > you how to invoke it directly and also one way to get pmx to
> post it with
> > "os":
> >
> > 
> > 1 1 4 4 4 4 0 0
> > 1 1 20 0
> >
> > t
> > .\
> > \\makeatletter\
> > [EMAIL PROTECTED]@th.7pt\
> > [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > \\special{ps: [EMAIL PROTECTED] begin ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) ([EMAIL 
> > PROTECTED])
> ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) DLN end}}\
> > \\makeatother\
> >
> \\def\eshake#1{\zcharnote{#1}{\kern2pt\lower.8\internote\hbox{\psl
ine{8pt}{
>6 pt}}\
> \\kern-2pt\raise0\internote\hbox{\psline{8pt}{6pt\
> \\let\mtr\eshake\
> Ap
> c45 \eshake{10}\ g c g os /
> 
>
> The fore fall, back fall, and "plain note and shake" can be built up
> similarly.

I could successfully create these graces but there remains a problem as the
fore fall and back fall are to be placed near a note within the stave. Would
it be possible to define psline so that the lines would be transparent?

Hermann

> To do the "shake turned" you'll need a semicircle and I don't
> know how to do that in general. There is a font circlew1 that has a
> semicircle in it, but I don't have a postscript version of the font and
> have no control over the thickness of the line. Maybe someone else can
tell
> us how to make TeX draw a circle using postscript commands analogous to
> psline.
>
> In any event, you'll have to create a postscript file before you can see
> the constructions that use psline, and if you don't use Ap it doesn't work
> (I can't remember exactly why).
>
> --Don Simons
>
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[TeX-music] Music on Mac OS X

2006-04-10 Thread Chajim Meinhold

Hello List,

ist there any help installing and using musixtex etc. on Mac OS X?

I already used musixtex several years ago on OS 7 transferring my files 
to a Windows-Computer for musixflx-processing. I only have few small 
tasks to perform. However there seems to be some new stuff and I also 
forgot quite much.


Sincerely,
Chajim

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Re: [TeX-music] Graces for English Virginal-Music

2006-04-10 Thread Hermann Hinsch
Am Sonntag, 9. April 2006 01:27 schrieb Don Simons:
> Here's an example of how to construct the "shake" using psline. I've shown
> you how to invoke it directly and also one way to get pmx to post it with
> "os":
>
> 
> 1 1 4 4 4 4 0 0
> 1 1 20 0
>
> t
> .\
> \\makeatletter\
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]@th.7pt\
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> \\special{ps: [EMAIL PROTECTED] begin ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) 
> ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) DLN end}}\
> \\makeatother\
> \\def\eshake#1{\zcharnote{#1}{\kern2pt\lower.8\internote\hbox{\psline{8pt}{
>6 pt}}\
> \\kern-2pt\raise0\internote\hbox{\psline{8pt}{6pt\
> \\let\mtr\eshake\
> Ap
> c45 \eshake{10}\ g c g os /
> 
>
> The fore fall, back fall, and "plain note and shake" can be built up
> similarly.

I could successfully create these graces but there remains a problem as the 
fore fall and back fall are to be placed near a note within the stave. Would 
it be possible to define psline so that the lines would be transparent?

Hermann

> To do the "shake turned" you'll need a semicircle and I don't 
> know how to do that in general. There is a font circlew1 that has a
> semicircle in it, but I don't have a postscript version of the font and
> have no control over the thickness of the line. Maybe someone else can tell
> us how to make TeX draw a circle using postscript commands analogous to
> psline.
>
> In any event, you'll have to create a postscript file before you can see
> the constructions that use psline, and if you don't use Ap it doesn't work
> (I can't remember exactly why).
>
> --Don Simons
>
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