Re: [TeX-music] MusixTeX is great. What to choose next?

2007-03-01 Thread Dirk Laurie
Bernhard Lang skryf:
 If you have many few bars long music lines to embed TeX capacity 
 exceeded can become an issue 
On any TeX system that has a texmf.cnf file this is no problem.
You simply edit that file to increase TeX capacity.
Multiply stack sizes by 10 --- your modern computer has
a lot of RAM and the original TeX sizes date back to
the days of 8-bit machines.

Dirk
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Re: [TeX-music] MusixTeX is great. What to choose next?

2007-02-27 Thread Christof Biebricher
On Mon, 26 Feb 2007, Mats Bengtsson wrote:

 
 Sorry to answer about LilyPond on this mailing list. As long as you use
 LaTeX to write your documents, you can certainly insert both large and small
 music examples using lilypond-book, which is included in the LilyPond
 distribution. Lilypond-book works as a preprocessor that generates the scores
 as EPS (or PDF files if you will use pdflatex), one file per score line, and
 replaces
 the LilyPond code in the input file with \includegraphics commands that
 (pdf)latex can handle.
This method can of course also be taken by typesetting with M-Tx or pmx.
It is sometimes the best way. Short music examples of less than
a line are preferentially embedded by writing musixtex code directly.
Larger pieces can be produced by typesetting with a
preprocessor, producing the TeX code, edit it to adapt to LaTeX and
\input it into the main file. Please take a look at the various documentations
of musixtex and the preprocessors: there these possibilities are nicely
demonstrated since the documentations are written in LaTeX.
 
Christof
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Re: [TeX-music] MusixTeX is great. What to choose next?

2007-02-27 Thread Dmytro O. Redchuk
On Mon, Feb 26, 2007 at 07:04:09PM -0800, Don Simons wrote:
  Dmytro O. Redchuk
 2. M-Tx ... Its manual says that PMX offers musixlyr -- is that correct
 or I just misunderstood something?
 
 I think you're misunderstanding something. PMX doesn't do lyrics at all,
 unless you want to use gobs of in-line TeX. That's basically what M-Tx does,
 with MusiXlyr's help. M-Tx produces a PMX input file containing in-line TeX
 commands to emplace the lyrics. Musixlyr, like any other TeX add-in, must be
 activated by a TeX \input command, and that's one of the commands that M-Tx
 puts up front in the PMX file it outputs. The \input command is just another
 in-line TeX command as far as PMX is concerned.

So, every PMX should be replaced with M-Tx?-)

So, M-Tx is for me -- i can type in M-Tx notation scores with lyrics,
than process it to PMX code, than obtain .tex file, which can be tuned
in some extent and \input into main text.

Am i understand you right?

 
 --Don Simons
Thank You,
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[TeX-music] MusixTeX is great. What to choose next?

2007-02-26 Thread Dmytro O. Redchuk
Hello to Masters,

   please, help :-)


   I've been using MusixTeX for some years (I'm not a musician, thought;
   this is more like hobby), I have typeset some about a hundred of pages.

   I like MusixTeX a lot, because its code is a plain TeX code, it can
   be inserted anywhere inside text (so, music piece can start at one page
   after some paragraphs and end at the next and be followed by text
   again). That's what I really need.

   I use `\mulooseness' sometimes, I adjust scores position with `\vskip's
   sometimes. And I like `geometry' and `title{toc,sec}' packages. I am
   working on book which contains tens of score pieces (two lines to
   several pages). I use `musixlyr' for lyrics.

   So, I really need a scores typesetting system, which can produce a
   normal tex code. So, MusixTeX is great.


   But now I really would like to find something which has a slightly more
   user friendly syntax (and more readable, too). Okay, I would like to
   have a system, which:

   1. Can produce TeX code in a mentioned sense (yes, MusixTeX *is* a
  TeX code itself).
   2. Allow type scores with multiple instruments and multiple (two,
  three..) voices per instrument; allows add lyrics and dynamically
  add/change/remove lyrics (lyrics positioning).
   3. Can produce MIDI output (proof-listening is enough).
   4. Have a easier syntax than MusixTeX (allowing to type quicker --
  since I have too few time for score typing, unfortunately).
   5. Oh, yes -- should be free and multi-platform (at least Win* and
  *NIX) -- because I like use MikTeX, too.


   After some browsing I have found that:
   1. PMX (and M-Tx) can produce TeX code (sorry for the term:) -- I
  have not tried to make a paper with mixed text and such a code.
   2. M-Tx allows add lyrics (and lyrics adding/repositioning on the
  fly?). Its manual says that PMX offers musixlyr -- is that correct
  or I just misunderstood something?
   3. PMX (and M-Tx?) restricts to two voices per instrument (three and
  more with hard-spaced extra instrument?)
   4. LilyPond is nice for music typing, but can not help me with TeX.
   5. ABC have documented multi-voice feature, but I couldn't reproduce
  with the latest win binary.
   6. PMW is nice, too -- but can not help me with TeX...
   7. MIDI... oh, well... Would be more clever to make a table with
  features.


   So... Which tool is for me? Am I missing something?


A lot of thanks.

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RE: [TeX-music] MusixTeX is great. What to choose next?

2007-02-26 Thread Don Simons
 Dmytro O. Redchuk

But now I really would like to find something which has a slightly more
user friendly syntax (and more readable, too). Okay, I would like to
have a system, which:

1. Can produce TeX code in a mentioned sense (yes, MusixTeX *is* a
   TeX code itself).

PMX

2. Allow type scores with multiple instruments and multiple (two,
   three..) voices per instrument; allows add lyrics and dynamically
   add/change/remove lyrics (lyrics positioning).

PMX. Like MusiXTeX, it allows multiple staves per instrument, but yes, only
two lines per staff. However, more notes can be added to any staff with
inline TeX in the PMX input file.

3. Can produce MIDI output (proof-listening is enough).

PMX

4. Have a easier syntax than MusixTeX (allowing to type quicker --
   since I have too few time for score typing, unfortunately).

PMX

5. Oh, yes -- should be free and multi-platform (at least Win* and
   *NIX) -- because I like use MikTeX, too.

PMX

This sounds almost like an advertisement for PMX. I assume you understand
that PMX is a preprocessor for MusiXTeX, i.e., it outputs a TeX input file.
Naturally it does have its limitations, and it cannot very well produce
integrated text and music on it's own. But it can certainly produce chamber
music scores, and with M-Tx as a preprocessor you can include lyrics (and
not worry about spacing.) You sound like you have enough experience to
effectively use PMX as a TeX code generator, then combine it into your LaTeX
files for books.

   2. M-Tx ... Its manual says that PMX offers musixlyr -- is that correct
   or I just misunderstood something?

I think you're misunderstanding something. PMX doesn't do lyrics at all,
unless you want to use gobs of in-line TeX. That's basically what M-Tx does,
with MusiXlyr's help. M-Tx produces a PMX input file containing in-line TeX
commands to emplace the lyrics. Musixlyr, like any other TeX add-in, must be
activated by a TeX \input command, and that's one of the commands that M-Tx
puts up front in the PMX file it outputs. The \input command is just another
in-line TeX command as far as PMX is concerned.

3. PMX (and M-Tx?) restricts to two voices per instrument (three and
   more with hard-spaced extra instrument?)

Are you referring to a trick where one staff is made to lay on top of
another? I think that would be possible, if its really necessary, again
using in-line TeX commands in the PMX input file.

--Don Simons


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