Re: [TeX-Music] M-Tx and PMX-Limitation
Hello Hermann, I'm glad to hear that my package can help your project! Your valuable report led me to improve musixuad package. Thank you again! Hiroaki MORIMOTO [EMAIL PROTECTED] Tokyo, Japan (1) \input musixuad.tex \input musixlyr.tex will be OK, Hiroaki, thank you very much. I placed musixuad.tex into mtx.tex before musixlyr.tex and indeed this is the solution! Lyrics are placed into the correct positions and I am sure this be so up to the end of my project. Again many thanks for your help Hermann ___ TeX-music mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mailman.daimi.au.dk/mailman/listinfo/tex-music
Re: [TeX-Music] M-Tx and PMX-Limitation
Am Samstag, 22. März 2008 01:42 schrieb Hiroaki MORIMOTO: Hi all, I've found a suspicious code on this problem. musixlyr.tex(2.1c) redefine a internal command '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' at line 649. musixuad also redefine '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' to make make slurs independent from \maxinstruments at line 230. So, please check your tex file: (1) \input musixuad.tex \input musixlyr.tex will be OK, Hiroaki, thank you very much. I placed musixuad.tex into mtx.tex before musixlyr.tex and indeed this is the solution! Lyrics are placed into the correct positions and I am sure this be so up to the end of my project. Again many thanks for your help Hermann (2) \input musixlyr.tex \input musixuad.tex will be NG (lyrics may not be flushed). Many thanks to Hermann, I should put self-exclusion code into musixuad.tex for such case ASAP... Best regards, Hiroaki MORIMOTO [EMAIL PROTECTED] Tokyo, Japan ___ TeX-music mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mailman.daimi.au.dk/mailman/listinfo/tex-music
Re: [TeX-Music] M-Tx and PMX-Limitation
Am Donnerstag, 20. März 2008 22:46 schrieb Christian Mondrup: Hermann Hinsch wrote: Am Mittwoch, 19. März 2008 20:22 schrieb Don Simons: I can't right off hand think of any tricks that will work, but someone else may. If you want to get into the code and recompile it, be my guest. The place to start is to globally search and replace nm=12 with nm=14 (12 voices plus two staves--I assume--for the B.C.). But I can virtually guarantee you that that alone won't do the trick; you'll just have to follow the error messages. Also, I'm not so sure that MusiXTeX will allow more than 12 instruments, although it may allow more than 12 total voices if there are no more than 12 instruments. --Don Simons Many thanks to all who answered on my problem. Don, I changed nm=12 to nm=13 and compiled pmxab.f and you are quite right that this didn´ t work. Then I included musixuad as Hiroaki suggested but as I am using tetex and not etex musixuad excludes itself. the terms 'tetex' and 'etex' are not immediately comparable. 'tetex' denotes a complete port of a full TeX system, while 'tex' and 'etex' are the names of base TeX interpreters (etex: extended tex). Actually tetex comes with etex. So maybe you should after all give the combination of a patched pmx, etex and musixuad a chance Christian, I did so and at the first glance it works as it should but in some places a shift of the lyric line over several bars occurs. After returning to 12 voices without the stave for the b.c these shifts disappear only if musixuad is not included. But without the 13. stave for the b.c. there is another problem : The last lyric line is partly positioned into the last stave. A Space ... in the preamble has no effect because the last stave is the end of the page. So I am a little frustated using M-Tx in this project. Hermann ___ TeX-music mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mailman.daimi.au.dk/mailman/listinfo/tex-music
Re: [TeX-Music] M-Tx and PMX-Limitation
Hermann Hinsch wrote: Am Mittwoch, 19. März 2008 20:22 schrieb Don Simons: I can't right off hand think of any tricks that will work, but someone else may. If you want to get into the code and recompile it, be my guest. The place to start is to globally search and replace nm=12 with nm=14 (12 voices plus two staves--I assume--for the B.C.). But I can virtually guarantee you that that alone won't do the trick; you'll just have to follow the error messages. Also, I'm not so sure that MusiXTeX will allow more than 12 instruments, although it may allow more than 12 total voices if there are no more than 12 instruments. --Don Simons Many thanks to all who answered on my problem. Don, I changed nm=12 to nm=13 and compiled pmxab.f and you are quite right that this didn´ t work. Then I included musixuad as Hiroaki suggested but as I am using tetex and not etex musixuad excludes itself. the terms 'tetex' and 'etex' are not immediately comparable. 'tetex' denotes a complete port of a full TeX system, while 'tex' and 'etex' are the names of base TeX interpreters (etex: extended tex). Actually tetex comes with etex. So maybe you should after all give the combination of a patched pmx, etex and musixuad a chance -- Christian Mondrup, Sheet Music Editor WIMA: Werner Icking Music Archive http://icking-music-archive.org/ ___ TeX-music mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mailman.daimi.au.dk/mailman/listinfo/tex-music
Re: [TeX-Music] M-Tx and PMX-Limitation
I can't right off hand think of any tricks that will work, but someone else may. If you want to get into the code and recompile it, be my guest. The place to start is to globally search and replace nm=12 with nm=14 (12 voices plus two staves--I assume--for the B.C.). But I can virtually guarantee you that that alone won't do the trick; you'll just have to follow the error messages. Also, I'm not so sure that MusiXTeX will allow more than 12 instruments, although it may allow more than 12 total voices if there are no more than 12 instruments. --Don Simons -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:tex-music- [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Hermann Hinsch Sent: Wednesday, March 19, 2008 11:28 AM To: Werner Icking Music Archive Subject: [TeX-Music] M-Tx and PMX-Limitation I want to typeset a psalm with 12 voices and b.c. using M-Tx. Although M-Tx allows 15 voices and staves PMX has the limit of 12 voices. Is there any possibility to overcome this limit? Hermann ___ TeX-music mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mailman.daimi.au.dk/mailman/listinfo/tex-music ___ TeX-music mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mailman.daimi.au.dk/mailman/listinfo/tex-music
Re: [TeX-Music] M-Tx and PMX-Limitation
Don Simons wrote: I can't right off hand think of any tricks that will work, but someone else may. If you want to get into the code and recompile it, be my guest. The place to start is to globally search and replace nm=12 with nm=14 (12 voices plus two staves--I assume--for the B.C.). But I can virtually guarantee you that that alone won't do the trick; you'll just have to follow the error messages. Also, I'm not so sure that MusiXTeX will allow more than 12 instruments, although it may allow more than 12 total voices if there are no more than 12 instruments. In cases like this where the MusiXTeX software utilities are driven beyond their limits I would go for alternative engraving software. From the open source world one candidate is GNU Lilypond which is really powerful, the user interface is rather far from the 'flow' of music, at least in my experience. For a task like this one another open source utility could be PMW (http://www.quercite.com/pmw.html). Like Lilypond each staff is coded in its own section of the source file. But the coding syntax is simpler than that of Lilypond. Personally I'm using the non-free (though inexpensive) software MUP which, like M-Tx and PMX, keeps the engraving code of all staves together. For all 3 software packages mentioned above there is carefully prepared documentation available --Don Simons -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:tex-music- [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Hermann Hinsch Sent: Wednesday, March 19, 2008 11:28 AM To: Werner Icking Music Archive Subject: [TeX-Music] M-Tx and PMX-Limitation I want to typeset a psalm with 12 voices and b.c. using M-Tx. Although M-Tx allows 15 voices and staves PMX has the limit of 12 voices. Is there any possibility to overcome this limit? Hermann ___ TeX-music mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mailman.daimi.au.dk/mailman/listinfo/tex-music ___ TeX-music mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mailman.daimi.au.dk/mailman/listinfo/tex-music -- Christian Mondrup, Sheet Music Editor WIMA: Werner Icking Music Archive http://icking-music-archive.org/ ___ TeX-music mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mailman.daimi.au.dk/mailman/listinfo/tex-music
Re: [TeX-Music] M-Tx and PMX-Limitation
It's ready to make a score with over 12 instruments! http://homepage1.nifty.com/kuuku/pub/musixtex/musixuad/index-e.html Best regards Hiroaki MORIMOTO [EMAIL PROTECTED] Tokyo, Japan Don Simons [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I can't right off hand think of any tricks that will work, but someone else may. If you want to get into the code and recompile it, be my guest. The place to start is to globally search and replace nm=12 with nm=14 (12 voices plus two staves--I assume--for the B.C.). But I can virtually guarantee you that that alone won't do the trick; you'll just have to follow the error messages. Also, I'm not so sure that MusiXTeX will allow more than 12 instruments, although it may allow more than 12 total voices if there are no more than 12 instruments. --Don Simons -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:tex-music- [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Hermann Hinsch Sent: Wednesday, March 19, 2008 11:28 AM To: Werner Icking Music Archive Subject: [TeX-Music] M-Tx and PMX-Limitation I want to typeset a psalm with 12 voices and b.c. using M-Tx. Although M-Tx allows 15 voices and staves PMX has the limit of 12 voices. Is there any possibility to overcome this limit? Hermann ___ TeX-music mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mailman.daimi.au.dk/mailman/listinfo/tex-music ___ TeX-music mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mailman.daimi.au.dk/mailman/listinfo/tex-music ___ TeX-music mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mailman.daimi.au.dk/mailman/listinfo/tex-music
Re: [TeX-Music] M-Tx and PMX-Limitation
For Mega version etc., please take a look at musixuad.tex line 63-68. For example, changing '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' into ' [EMAIL PROTECTED]' will allow 100 instruments. Note! musixuad conflicts with PS slur type K (Don says it current PMX standard) by Stanislav Kneifl and MusiXExp by Moriwaki Michio. Now e-TeX is available, thus I think musixps and musixexp should be modified not to apply basic registers to other purposes. (Of course, it requires cooperation.) But I sometimes think the method of current musixuad is not the best solution, because it allocates too many registers... Best regards, Hiroaki MORIMOTO [EMAIL PROTECTED] Tokyo, Japan Jill-J麩n VIE [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Lol: MusiXUltimate!... Coming soon, MusiXUltimateMega, MusiXUltimateMegaPro, MusiXUltimateMegaProPremium, etc. Thanks for the link :-) On 19 mars 08, at 23:16:53, Hiroaki MORIMOTO wrote: It's ready to make a score with over 12 instruments! http://homepage1.nifty.com/kuuku/pub/musixtex/musixuad/index-e.html Best regards Hiroaki MORIMOTO [EMAIL PROTECTED] Tokyo, Japan -- Jill-J麩n http://mickay.jill.free.fr/score/ ___ TeX-music mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mailman.daimi.au.dk/mailman/listinfo/tex-music
