RE: [Texascavers] TCR Turns 30!

[Butch Fralia]

There's more information at HYPERLINK
"http://www.cavetexas.org/events/TCR/index.html"http://www.cavetexas.org/eve
nts/TCR/index.html with a cool Google map at:  HYPERLINK
"http://www.cavetexas.org/maps/tcr2007.html"http://www.cavetexas.org/maps/tc
r2007.html so you can set your GPS and plot your course.
 
Allan will always have the latest information on his site where we link to
but we'll try to keep up with him.
 
Thanks Allan for the great work in setting it up and I hope to see everyone
there.  There are rumors of a SWTG reunion and A.S.S. reunion at this TCR
assuming it all gels out.  There will be more information on the TSA site
about the SWTG reunion if the coordinators get their act together.
 
Butch Fralia
TSA Co-Webmaster
 

-Original Message-
From: Allan B. Cobb [mailto:a...@oztotl.com] 
Sent: Monday, July 30, 2007 10:28 PM
To: Texascavers@texascavers.com
Subject: [Texascavers] TCR Turns 30!


Howdy y'all,
 
All cavers are invited to come to the 30th Texas Cavers Reunion! TCR will be
October 19-21.
 
For more information about TCR and see pictures of the site, visit HYPERLINK
"http://www.oztotl.com/tcr"www.oztotl.com/tcr.
 
This year, TCR will be located near San Antonio on the Medina River.  We
will be at the Paradise Canyon Park (HYPERLINK
"http://paradisecanyon.com"http://paradisecanyon.com).
 
Stay tuned for future updates.
 
Allan
 
P.S.  Please feel free to post this to other lists and add this to grotto
calendars and newsletters.


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[Texascavers] TCR Turns 30!

[Allan B. Cobb]

Howdy y'all,

All cavers are invited to come to the 30th Texas Cavers Reunion! TCR will be 
October 19-21.

For more information about TCR and see pictures of the site, visit 
www.oztotl.com/tcr.

This year, TCR will be located near San Antonio on the Medina River.  We will 
be at the Paradise Canyon Park (http://paradisecanyon.com).

Stay tuned for future updates.

Allan

P.S.  Please feel free to post this to other lists and add this to grotto 
calendars and newsletters.

[Texascavers] Good Deal on Petzl Ascenders

[Minton, Mark]

  Until August 13 Mountain Gear has Petzl Ascension handled ascenders 
 on sale for $44.97 each:  
.
  This is a very good deal, since they normally run $60 apiece from caving 
vendors.  I just ordered a pair.

Mark Minton

[Texascavers] Jim Hixson

[Gary Moss]

Hi All:
This just came from Bill Stringfellow.  I thought a number of you
may have known Jim.
Gary Moss
==

Friends:

With great sadness I need to inform you Mr. George Hixson has passed away
in our facility July 28, 2007.  The arrangements have not been made
as of this date.  He will be laid to rest by Longanacre Funeral Home
RR1 Fort Springs, WV 24936 Phone number 1-304-647-4025.  Sorry for
your loss as well as ours.




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[Texascavers] Elliott receives NSS award

[David McKenzie]

William R. Elliott Receives National Award

 

On July 27, 2007, Dr. William R. Elliott ("Bill") received the Honorary 
Membership Award from the National Speleological Society at their convention in 
Marengo, Indiana. The certificate is "in recognition of his outstanding 
contributions to speleology," signed by the NSS Board of Governors. NSS is the 
world's leading cave exploration, science and conservation organization with 
12,000 members. 

 

The Honorary Membership has been awarded each year since 1941 to outstanding 
scientists and conservationists, including foreign speleologists, and includes 
life membership in the Society, although Dr. Elliott has been a member for 39 
years. The last Missourian to receive the honor was in 1989.

 

Bill has been the cave biologist for the Missouri Department of Conservation, 
Resource Science Division, in Jefferson City, since 1998. His duties include 
research, conservation, management, education, and recreation in caves owned by 
the Department, and cooperative work with private and public cave owners. He is 
involved in karst land management issues and public policy.

 

Bill grew up in Georgetown, Texas, where he began caving at age 15. He joined 
the NSS in 1968, and he soon was involved in cave exploration, mapping, bug 
collecting, Mexican cavefish, bats and cave photography. He began finding new 
species, and over the years ten new species, including a new genus, have been 
named after him by scientists.

 

Bill's biology degrees include a bachelor's from the University of Texas at 
Austin, and M.S. and Ph.D. from Texas Tech University. He studied cave life in 
Mexico, Belize, and many states from Texas to Alaska. He has published numerous 
scientific articles, and he has trained hundreds in cave ecology and 
management. His specialties include cave protection, bat studies, millipede 
taxonomy, biogeography and macrophotography. He has appeared in several videos 
on caves.

 

Bill is a Fellow of the NSS and a board member of the Missouri Caves and Karst 
Conservancy. He is the former Editor and Data Manager of the Texas 
Speleological Survey (TSS). He is a past director of the TSS and the American 
Cave Conservation Association. He received the TSS Outstanding Service Award in 
2002. In 2006, he received a Special Achievements in GIS Award from ESRI, the 
makers of ArcMap, for his papers on cave biogeography and conservation. He is 
active in Bat Conservation International, Missouri Speleological Survey, and 
the NSS Biology Section. He is Chair of the next National Cave & Karst 
Management Symposium, to be held in St. Louis, October 8-12, 2007.

 

Bill has a web site with many photos of cave life and information. Just Google 
"biospeleology" or go to 
http://www.utexas.edu/tmm/sponsored_sites/biospeleology/

 

Bill and his wife, Gayle Unruh, like to travel, camp, hike, watch wildlife and 
canoe. His family resides in Texas, California and Kansas. He is a licensed 
Sport Pilot and President of the Experimental Aircraft Association's Chapter 
#429 in Jefferson City.

 

In case you want to contact Bill:

 

William R. Elliott, Ph.D.

Missouri Department of Conservation

Resource Science Division

P.O. Box 180

Jefferson City, MO 65102-0180

573-522-4115 ext 3194 office

bill.elli...@mdc.mo.gov 
7/30/07

Re: [Texascavers] Visitors at Natural Bridge Caverns wade in aquifer

[Brian Vauter]

Back in 1992, we made a rough type of weir and measured 8,000 gallons 
per minute coming into the cave at Castle of the White Giants. The same 
thing happened this time. That doesn't count the amount of water coming 
at Chapel Hall or near Emerald Lake. "Stagnant" water would be hard to find.


The high point measured thus far was on the 33rd step. The previous 
record was actually on the 31st step in 1992. By doing some average 
volume calculations, we've got 2.2 million gallons of water in Castle of 
the White Giants. Add to that 2.6 million gallons in Grendel's Canyon 
and 2.1 million in Sherwood/Purgatory. I don't think we'll be able to 
get tours back into the lower rooms until at least September.


Brian


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Re: [Texascavers] Visitors at Natural Bridge Caverns wade in aquifer

[Ron Miller]

I toured the cave on Sunday and can confirm the need to take off street shoes 
to get through one area of the trail if you are not wearing a pair of Crocks. 
The park guide was standing on the 32nd step from the trail going down to the 
stream passage and the water was at the 31st step. The previous record was said 
to be at the 27th step if I was listening correctly. Last week the water was up 
to the 33 step. The cave is very wet with water running off just about 
everything and going down the trails. The waiting lines were long to get a 
glimpse of the aquifer. I think my feet are cleaner now than when I went in.
 
Ron Miller
 


 
- Original Message 
From: Sheryl Rieck 
To: texascavers@texascavers.com
Sent: Monday, July 30, 2007 2:27:02 PM
Subject: RE: [Texascavers] Visitors at Natural Bridge Caverns wade in aquifer


I wouldn't be too concerned.  We used to play in the ditches in Houston.  I
doubt if it could be worse than that and we survived.  A little yuppie puppy
poop never hurt anyone.  :-)

Sheryl

-Original Message-
From: wesley s [mailto:mudmal...@hotmail.com] 
Sent: Monday, July 30, 2007 1:06 PM
To: texascavers@texascavers.com
Subject: Re: [Texascavers] Visitors at Natural Bridge Caverns wade in
aquifer

It may not contaminate the Aquifer proper or anybody's well but I sure as 
hell wouldn't want my children wading through a foot of stagnant water that 
has washed thousands of yuppie feet clean of their Pekinese's or chihuahua's

shit.

Wes~


>From: "Scott" 
>To: 
>Subject: Re: [Texascavers] Visitors at Natural Bridge Caverns wade in 
>aquifer
>Date: Sun, 29 Jul 2007 18:43:07 -0500
>
>Anybody checked Airmans Lately?
>
>
>- Original Message - From: "Allan Cobb" 
>To: 
>Sent: Sunday, July 29, 2007 6:31 PM
>Subject: [Texascavers] Visitors at Natural Bridge Caverns wade in aquifer
>
>
>>www.news8austin.com
>>
>>
>>Visitors at Natural Bridge Caverns wade in aquifer
>>Updated: 7/29/2007 12:56:54 PM
>>By: Russell Wilde
>>
>>The Glen Rose Aquifer near New Braunfels rose to record levels filling 
>>parts of Natural Bridge Caverns with millions of gallons of water.
>>
>>It's not unusual for water to drip off limestone formations in Natural 
>>Bridge Caverns, but for the first time in cave history, you have to wade 
>>in. It gives park visitors a rare look at the inside of a working aquifer.
>>
>>"This is the very first time in the history of operation that our guests 
>>have the opportunity to put their feet into the Glen Rose Aquifer," Joye 
>>Wuest of Natural Bridge Caverns said.
>>
>>Rain water that has worked its way underground is recharging water 
>>supplies and turning a cavern tour into very wet science lesson.
>>
>>"You do get to go down and take a look at something, which really few 
>>people ever get the chance to see. That's an aquifer," geologist Brian 
>>Vaurer said.
>>
>>Because of the high water, two rooms in the cavern are inaccessible and 
>>working your way down to water level requires you to get your feet wet. 
>>Water in some of the cave's rooms is close to 35 feet deep. Some parts of 
>>the tour require cave visitors to wade through about a foot of water.
>>
>>It can take rain water up to three days to work its way into the cave, and

>>only time will tell how long it will stay. Geologists said it could take 
>>weeks or months for the water to drain out of the cavern.
>>
>>"This is definitely not something that is normal, and it's not something 
>>that's going to stick around," Vauter said.
>>
>>"We do not know how long this condition will last, it depends on rainfall,

>>it depends on how fast the aquifer is depleted," Wuest said.
>>
>>Geologists said the high water levels won't damage cave formations and the

>>foot traffic won't pollute the water supply. This is the highest water 
>>level recorded since the cave was discovered in 1960s.
>>
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RE: [Texascavers] Visitors at Natural Bridge Caverns wade in aquifer

[Sheryl Rieck]

I wouldn't be too concerned.  We used to play in the ditches in Houston.  I
doubt if it could be worse than that and we survived.  A little yuppie puppy
poop never hurt anyone.  :-)

Sheryl

-Original Message-
From: wesley s [mailto:mudmal...@hotmail.com] 
Sent: Monday, July 30, 2007 1:06 PM
To: texascavers@texascavers.com
Subject: Re: [Texascavers] Visitors at Natural Bridge Caverns wade in
aquifer

It may not contaminate the Aquifer proper or anybody's well but I sure as 
hell wouldn't want my children wading through a foot of stagnant water that 
has washed thousands of yuppie feet clean of their Pekinese's or chihuahua's

shit.

Wes~


>From: "Scott" 
>To: 
>Subject: Re: [Texascavers] Visitors at Natural Bridge Caverns wade in 
>aquifer
>Date: Sun, 29 Jul 2007 18:43:07 -0500
>
>Anybody checked Airmans Lately?
>
>
>- Original Message - From: "Allan Cobb" 
>To: 
>Sent: Sunday, July 29, 2007 6:31 PM
>Subject: [Texascavers] Visitors at Natural Bridge Caverns wade in aquifer
>
>
>>www.news8austin.com
>>
>>
>>Visitors at Natural Bridge Caverns wade in aquifer
>>Updated: 7/29/2007 12:56:54 PM
>>By: Russell Wilde
>>
>>The Glen Rose Aquifer near New Braunfels rose to record levels filling 
>>parts of Natural Bridge Caverns with millions of gallons of water.
>>
>>It's not unusual for water to drip off limestone formations in Natural 
>>Bridge Caverns, but for the first time in cave history, you have to wade 
>>in. It gives park visitors a rare look at the inside of a working aquifer.
>>
>>"This is the very first time in the history of operation that our guests 
>>have the opportunity to put their feet into the Glen Rose Aquifer," Joye 
>>Wuest of Natural Bridge Caverns said.
>>
>>Rain water that has worked its way underground is recharging water 
>>supplies and turning a cavern tour into very wet science lesson.
>>
>>"You do get to go down and take a look at something, which really few 
>>people ever get the chance to see. That's an aquifer," geologist Brian 
>>Vaurer said.
>>
>>Because of the high water, two rooms in the cavern are inaccessible and 
>>working your way down to water level requires you to get your feet wet. 
>>Water in some of the cave's rooms is close to 35 feet deep. Some parts of 
>>the tour require cave visitors to wade through about a foot of water.
>>
>>It can take rain water up to three days to work its way into the cave, and

>>only time will tell how long it will stay. Geologists said it could take 
>>weeks or months for the water to drain out of the cavern.
>>
>>"This is definitely not something that is normal, and it's not something 
>>that's going to stick around," Vauter said.
>>
>>"We do not know how long this condition will last, it depends on rainfall,

>>it depends on how fast the aquifer is depleted," Wuest said.
>>
>>Geologists said the high water levels won't damage cave formations and the

>>foot traffic won't pollute the water supply. This is the highest water 
>>level recorded since the cave was discovered in 1960s.
>>
>>
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[Texascavers] NSS Convention report # 11

[David Locklear]

I am now safe at home back in Houston, and plan to eventually post the
rest of my convention story.

This is my Wednesday afternoon-evening report:

After leaving "Eric's River Cave," I drove only 5 minutes down the road
( about 1/2 mile as the crow flies ) to the commercial cave Wyandotte
( pronounced Wine Dot, I think ).

I only had time for the short tour which is in "Little Wyandotte Cave."
I was not impressed with this cave, but it was fun to be underground.
There was one unique formation in the cave that was not pointed
out by the guide. It looked like an olive but it was thin and hollow.
I don't know if it was a fossil ??

After that, I drove down the hill and had dinner on the Ohio River at
a well known patio restaurant "The Dock."  Apparently they make
some of the best fried pickles in Indiana. They were very delicious,
and I don't recall eating them before, certainly not cut lengthwise.

I ate dinner there with 2 cavers that were doctors. I have already
forgot their names. There were just too many names to remember
at the convention. There were lots of other cavers eating there
too. Most of the cavers I know fall in the poor caver category, so
it is always interesting meeting cavers who have real jobs and money.
They rented a fully loaded Chrysler Aspen for the convention with
satelite radio, DVD-Navigation, AWD, etc.

After that, I explored some of the backroads in the area
around the town of Leavenworth.

I rushed from there back to camp to watch my favorite band,
"The Terminal Siphons."   I tried to enjoy the 1st set, but I was
tired and sleepy. I was planning another day of caving the next
day, so I had to leave after the first set and went back to the tent.
There were several hot girls on the dance floor dancing.
One was from Alaska and said she has
her picture in an alpine cave on the cover of the NSS Directory.
Someone else will have to post a review of the concert.  I didn't
recognize all the songs in the 1st set, and I would be guessing to
tell you what kind of music some of them were. I could have
swore I saw Ernie Garza dancing, and Bill Rupley, and Terry
Raines and Family. Lots of cavers were taking pictures so
I am sure they will be posted somewhere. One guy appeared
to be making a 3D-video ???

I got the impression from a few Hoosier girls that I talked to there, that
it is common for a young lady growing up there to be interested in caving
or at least trying it once. I don't
believe that is the case here in Houston, but maybe it is because
we just are not trying to find them.  The girl on our trip to
Eric's River Cave; Heather, works at Marengo Cave. Another
girl dancing there, Jill Vance ( I think ) said she worked at Spring Mill park
( which has adventure cave tours ) and she goes caving all the time, but
just in southern Indiana.

2B continued ...

David Locklear

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Re: [Texascavers] Visitors at Natural Bridge Caverns wade in aquifer

[wesley s]

It may not contaminate the Aquifer proper or anybody's well but I sure as 
hell wouldn't want my children wading through a foot of stagnant water that 
has washed thousands of yuppie feet clean of their Pekinese's or chihuahua's 
shit.


Wes~



From: "Scott" 
To: 
Subject: Re: [Texascavers] Visitors at Natural Bridge Caverns wade in 
aquifer

Date: Sun, 29 Jul 2007 18:43:07 -0500

Anybody checked Airmans Lately?


- Original Message - From: "Allan Cobb" 
To: 
Sent: Sunday, July 29, 2007 6:31 PM
Subject: [Texascavers] Visitors at Natural Bridge Caverns wade in aquifer



www.news8austin.com


Visitors at Natural Bridge Caverns wade in aquifer
Updated: 7/29/2007 12:56:54 PM
By: Russell Wilde

The Glen Rose Aquifer near New Braunfels rose to record levels filling 
parts of Natural Bridge Caverns with millions of gallons of water.


It's not unusual for water to drip off limestone formations in Natural 
Bridge Caverns, but for the first time in cave history, you have to wade 
in. It gives park visitors a rare look at the inside of a working aquifer.


"This is the very first time in the history of operation that our guests 
have the opportunity to put their feet into the Glen Rose Aquifer," Joye 
Wuest of Natural Bridge Caverns said.


Rain water that has worked its way underground is recharging water 
supplies and turning a cavern tour into very wet science lesson.


"You do get to go down and take a look at something, which really few 
people ever get the chance to see. That's an aquifer," geologist Brian 
Vaurer said.


Because of the high water, two rooms in the cavern are inaccessible and 
working your way down to water level requires you to get your feet wet. 
Water in some of the cave's rooms is close to 35 feet deep. Some parts of 
the tour require cave visitors to wade through about a foot of water.


It can take rain water up to three days to work its way into the cave, and 
only time will tell how long it will stay. Geologists said it could take 
weeks or months for the water to drain out of the cavern.


"This is definitely not something that is normal, and it's not something 
that's going to stick around," Vauter said.


"We do not know how long this condition will last, it depends on rainfall, 
it depends on how fast the aquifer is depleted," Wuest said.


Geologists said the high water levels won't damage cave formations and the 
foot traffic won't pollute the water supply. This is the highest water 
level recorded since the cave was discovered in 1960s.



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RE: [Texascavers] Fox sightings

[Joe S. Ranzau]

This past week Sara and I saw a fox in Placencia on the beach...  For some reason I was suprised to find a beach bum fox.  Didn't expect foxes to like the beach but what do I know.
Now the Jaguar eating all the dogs in the area was also kinda cool...  Big prints outside my cabin in the sand one morning but thats a different story.
 
Joe



 


  David Locklear said:
>I saw a fox along the road.
  Yvonne Droms and I also saw a fox on a back road as we were driving back to the Convention campground at dusk after a cave trip near Wyandotte.  Apparently there are a lot of foxes in southern Indiana.  Cool!
 
Mark Minton

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[Texascavers] RE: NSS Convention # 9

[Minton, Mark]

  David Locklear said:

>I saw a fox along the road.

  Yvonne Droms and I also saw a fox on a back road as we were driving back 
to the Convention campground at dusk after a cave trip near Wyandotte.  
Apparently there are a lot of foxes in southern Indiana.  Cool!

Mark Minton

[Texascavers] NSS Awards

[speleosteele]

NSS Awards 
  By: Scott Fee  (Birmingham, Alabama) 
  scott...@bellsouth.net 
 
 
I am pleased to announce the Annual NSS Awards as presented at the 
 
Marengo Convention this past Friday. 
 
 
 
Peter M. Hauer Spelean History Award: 
 
 
 
Robert Hoke 
 
 
 
James G. Mitchell Award : 
 
 
 
Ben Hutchins 
 
 
 
Fellows: 
 
 
 
Pauline Apling 37323 
 
 
 
Myrna Attaway 16921 
 
 
 
Jerry Brandenburg 38132 
 
 
 
Robert Coomer 47765 
 
 
 
Mike Crockett 33730 
 
 
 
David Everton 25891 
 
 
 
Jaime Fee 33978 
 
 
 
Lee Florea 37909 
 
 
 
John Fox 17432 
 
 
 
Rich Geisler 33708 
 
 
 
Wayne Harrison 18689 
 
 
 
Melissa Hendrickson 43634 
 
 
 
Kelsea Rae Johnson 29123 
 
 
 
German Yanez Mendosa 48603 
 
 
 
Randy Michael 29346 
 
 
 
Peter "Mudpuppy" Michaud 41191 
 
 
 
Pati Miller 48264 
 
 
 
Ronny Miller 48265 
 
 
 
Anmar Mirza 45765 
 
 
 
Gerald Murphy 33786 
 
 
 
Bob Osburn 14017 
 
 
 
John Pearson 25731 
 
 
 
Jennifer Pinkley 22545 
 
 
 
Joe Sikorski 43675 
 
 
 
Steve Smith 13758 
 
 
 
Michael Ray Taylor 21969 
 
 
 
Janet Tinkham 24525 
 
 
 
Roy Vanhoozer 47845 
 
 
 
Kyles Voyles 36537 
 
 
 
Certificate of Merit: Val Hildreth-Werker and Jim C Werker for: 
 
Editing the book "Cave Conservation and Restoration." 
 
Spelean Art and Letters: Carolina Shrewsbury (NSS 46812) 
 
Science Award: Dr. Kathy Lavoie (NSS 17033) \

Victor A. Schmidt Conservation Award: John Pearson (NSS25731) 
 
Lew Bicking Award: Mike Wiles (NSS 18469) 
 
Honorary Member: Dr. William Elliott, (NSS 10847) 
 
William J. Stephenson Outstanding Service Award: Scott Fee (NSS 19797) 
 
Permission is given to circulate or reprint this list in whole. 
 
Scott Fee, NSS Awards Committee Chairman 


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