[Texascavers] RE: the monarch butterfly and Mexico
David Locklear said: I am almost certain that the migration path includes a pitstop for a day or 2 at Grutas de Carrizal in Nuevo Leon just east of the town of Candela. Maybe a caver could document that or some other karst area where they stop along the way to rest. I have camped at Bustamante Canyon when the monarchs were migrating. They covered every bush and tree along the stream at night. In the morning the air was filled with butterflies. We drove very slowly to give them time to move out of the way. It was very cool. Mark Minton
[Texascavers] RE: butterfly in the twilight zone of a cave...
David, Two spread-winged skippers known as flats are frequently found within culverts and sometimes in caves... They range from south Texas to Costs Rica. Stallings' Flat (Celaenorrhinus stallingsi) Fritzgaertner's Flat (Celaenorrhinus fritzgaertneri) http://www.naba.org/chapters/nabast/fritzgaertneri.html Mike Quinn, TPWD, Austin -Original Message- From: David Locklear [mailto:dlocklea...@gmail.com] Sent: Sunday, November 25, 2007 10:52 PM To: Texas Cavers Subject: [Texascavers] OT - the monarch butterfly and Mexico The monarch butterfly is in the news again. I think protecting the butterfly is in the best interest of cavers and caving. For example, I am almost certain that the migration path includes a pitstop for a day or 2 at Grutas de Carrizal in Nuevo Leon just east of the town of Candela. Maybe a caver could document that or some other karst area where they stop along the way to rest. I believe that the area around the Nacimiento de Rio Sabinas and high above there near the famous cave of Joya de Salas is most certainly another place. And high above the town of Gomez Farias there are probably areas where they are known to stop. Do bats eat them? If so, that could be another opportunity for a caver to do some investigating. I have never seen a butterfly in the twilight zone of a cave. Are they a speleo-phobic species? David Locklear - Visit our website: http://texascavers.com To unsubscribe, e-mail: texascavers-unsubscr...@texascavers.com For additional commands, e-mail: texascavers-h...@texascavers.com
RE: [Texascavers] El Paso (OT)
My El Paso story- Beware of the Sun Bowl crowd if you plan to travel to/through El Paso during New Years day time frame. I was trying to avoid a storm barreling through the Roswell-Carlsbad area during a ski trip from SA to Ruidoso. Thinking that by staying south and west I would be better off. Bad idea, took an hour and a half to find a room, restaurant lines were horrible and the partiers kept us up till Being an airplane nut, I tried to work in a visit to a museum in the area I'd checked out years earlier. I hoped the family would share my enthusiasm. It was closed for the holiday. Here's a link if you are interested and have time to stop. http://www.war-eagles-air-museum.com/ Rick Corbell From: gschin...@mindspring.com To: texascavers@texascavers.com Date: Sun, 25 Nov 2007 22:44:02 -0600 Subject: [Texascavers] El Paso While spending last night in El Paso, I heard an interesting rumor. Seems that many people take the name El Paso literally and pass through El Paso on their way to other destinations. I was told that the El Paso Tourism Bureau was lobbying the city council to have the name of the town changed from El Paso to El Stoppo to try and get more tourists visiting. Now that's funny Geary - Original Message - From: Geary Schindel gschin...@edwardsaquifer.org To: Gill Ediger gi...@worldnet.att.net; texascavers@texascavers.com Sent: Saturday, November 24, 2007 11:57 PM Subject: RE: [Texascavers] TGGraham, Aspen, Sue and I were visiting Lee's Ferry in Arizona on Thanksgiving Day looking at the put in point for the Grand Canyon of the Colorado, admiring the scenery, and checking out the geology. I always wanted to visit this site and will some day do the canyon. Graham is finishing up his first semester at Northern Arizona University and enjoying Flagstaff. That evening, we went to Page, Arizona where the only place open on Thanksgiving Day to eat was Denny's Restaurant. We had a nice quite and relatively untraditional Thanksgiving meal. I found it interesting that more than 300 years after the first Thanksgiving, here we sat being served by a nice Navaho woman. On Friday, we visited Antelope slot canyon out side of Page. This is a very fine but short slot canyon in the Navaho Sandstone then toured the Glen Canyon Dam. We left Flagstaff today with the hopes of getting to Van Horn, Texas but decided to call it a day in El Paso where it has been snowing for a few hours. There is about 2 inches of snow on the ground. Geary - Visit our website: http://texascavers.com To unsubscribe, e-mail: texascavers-unsubscr...@texascavers.com For additional commands, e-mail: texascavers-h...@texascavers.com - Visit our website: http://texascavers.com To unsubscribe, e-mail: texascavers-unsubscr...@texascavers.com For additional commands, e-mail: texascavers-h...@texascavers.com _ Your smile counts. The more smiles you share, the more we donate. Join in. www.windowslive.com/smile?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_Wave2_oprsmilewlhmtagline
[Texascavers] RE: Cult in Cave Siege
I googled the cult leader Pyotr Kuznetsov and he's a real piece of work. Apparently his followers are hold up in the cave awaiting the end of the world next May. He, however, did not join them, but was arrested by Russian police and is being held for psychiatric examination...whatever that includes in Russia.
[Texascavers] Digital photography tip
For those folks considering putting down $1000's on expensive digital camera equipment may want to consider the following article before discarding your film SLR. It involves getting inexpensive high-res film scans to archival CD's. http://www.kenrockwell.com/tech/free-digital-camera.htm Ron
[Texascavers] monarchs
Speaking of monarch butterflies, there is some good news from Pres. Calderone today. Here is the AP story from the Austin American Statesman: http://www.statesman.com/search/content/news/stories/world/11/26/1126mexico.html Sam
