[Texascavers] Bahamian cave yields paleontological treasures :

2007-12-06 Thread JerryAtkin
 
Bahamas Sinkhole Yields Fossil Treasure  Trove
Jennifer Viegas, Discovery News
 
 
 
Dec. 3, 2007 -- Divers exploring a water-filled sinkhole in  the Bahama 
Islands recently recovered one of the world's largest and most  pristinely 
preserved collections of animal and plant _fossils_ 
(http://dsc.discovery.com/news/2007/01/11/fossils_arc.html)  from a tropical 
island. 
Like a time machine, the fossils reveal in stages what ecosystems were like  
on the island of Abaco from periods between 12,000 to 1,000 years ago. 
Their ultra-high quality of preservation puts the fossils in a category all  
their own, David Steadman, who led the project and is curator of ornithology 
at  the _Florida Museum of Natural  History_ (http://www.flmnh.ufl.edu/) , 
told Discovery News. 
The potential for future analysis involves physical as well as chemical  
analysis, he added before explaining that stable isotopes, or atomic 
particles,  
can show what certain species ate, allowing scientists to reconstruct entire  
ecosystems. 
The blue hole, called Sawmill Sink, is a water-filled void in limestone  
bedrock that's open at the surface. The water, depleted of oxygen, necessitated 
 
special diving equipment and methods. 
The divers wore mixed gas rebreathers, closed-circuit devices that don't  
release exhaled air bubbles. This prevents bubbles from disturbing the site's  
unique water chemistry, while keeping the bubbles from whipping up clouds of  
bacterial mats, which could obscure visibility. 
The fossils included two extinct species of tortoise. One specimen had three  
sets of healed bite marks from a Cuban crocodile that's now locally extinct 
in  the Bahamas. 
A particularly large group of fossils came from a part of the site known as  
the owl roost. 
Owls cough up bony pellets and are extremely efficient accumulators of small 
 vertebrates, Steadman explained. 
Although no ancient owl was found at the roost, this part of the site yielded 
 one species of lizard, three types of snakes, 25 species of birds and four 
bat  species. Among the birds, one was a never before described extinct 
flightless  rail. Four other locally extinct birds -- the Cooper's Gundlach 's 
hawk, 
the  flicker, the cave swallow, and an eastern meadowlark -- were also 
recovered from  the roost.


_http://dsc.discovery.com/news/2007/12/03/tropical-island-fossils.html_ 
(http://dsc.discovery.com/news/2007/12/03/tropical-island-fossils.html) 



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Re: [Texascavers] RE: Honey Creek/Airmen's

2007-12-06 Thread speleosteele
Mark Minton wrote: 

 Bill Steele once brought a triathlete to Honey Creek on a pretty hard trip.  
 The poor guy had never been caving before, and he never knew what hit him.  
 We would play with him, getting ahead and then waiting.  When he showed up 
 huffing and puffing Bill would say, Well, ready to go?  He later said he 
 thought he was in shape, but he wasn't so sure after that trip.  I don't 
 think he ever went caving again, at least not in Honey Creek, so I guess he 
 thought caving was harder.  ;-)  (Seriously though, what's harder is a 
 matter of what you're used to.  I'd probably die off in a triathlon.) 

Let me explain.  I was in a Rotary Club in San Antonio.  The program chairman 
asked me to give a program on caving.  After the program this guy came up, 
someone I recognized, and introduced himself: The name's Earl Woodell, 
triathelete.  We'll er, commercial real estate broker, but my passion is 
triathlon.  Ive done lots of them. I'm in tiptop shape and I'd like to go 
caving with you sometime to something you consider very demanding.  

It just so happened that Mark and I were going to some remote part of Honey 
Creek soon thereafter.  So I outfitted the  in the triathelete in the right 
gear and we took him along.  I invited him to go caving some more, but he 
always had a conflict.

Bill 

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Re: [Texascavers] Not caving - but a MUST SEE

2007-12-06 Thread David Locklear
How many caves in the world could that bird-guy fly thru?

And during the cave flight, wouldn't he be called a bat-guy?

I bet there are some window like formations in the Sierra Madres
that he could needle thru? Isn't there one near Monclova?

La Ventana or something like that?

I know there is that big one in China that the jet flew thru.

Or he could fly under a natural bridge or arch?

They look more like flying squirrels than birds.

Unfortunately,

The technique will eventually be used for war-fare.Night-flying
infrared helmet-cam wearing airborne soldiers will be spying and
bombing on us in our sleep.

David Locklear

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RE: [Texascavers] Not caving - but a MUST SEE

2007-12-06 Thread Fritz Holt
David, 
Most of the places you mention do not allow enough height for the chutes
to open and thus avoiding death.
Fritz

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From: David Locklear [mailto:dlocklea...@gmail.com] 
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To: Texas Cavers
Subject: Re: [Texascavers] Not caving - but a MUST SEE

How many caves in the world could that bird-guy fly thru?

And during the cave flight, wouldn't he be called a bat-guy?

I bet there are some window like formations in the Sierra Madres
that he could needle thru? Isn't there one near Monclova?

La Ventana or something like that?

I know there is that big one in China that the jet flew thru.

Or he could fly under a natural bridge or arch?

They look more like flying squirrels than birds.

Unfortunately,

The technique will eventually be used for war-fare.Night-flying
infrared helmet-cam wearing airborne soldiers will be spying and
bombing on us in our sleep.

David Locklear

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Re: [Texascavers] theTerlingua Mine

2007-12-06 Thread Aimee Beveridge
  My agency, the Railroad Commission, has an abandoned mine section that plugs 
old mine shafts with federal dollars, so you can blame them.   But don't get 
any wrong ideas...we don't regulate railroads. 
   
  Go figure.
   
   
   
  The word is that most or all of the known entrances to old mines in 
the state were sealed, under the auspices of some state or federal 
program, either permanently (with concrete slabs or walls or dynamite 
or bulldozers) or with locked gates (to allow access in case of some 
emergency or scientific study) and sufficient legal penalties should 
the gates be violated. Too bad. It was kinda neat having 5000 drunks 
wandering about during the chili cook-offs with 600 foot pits 
punctuating the countryside. Now, through the efforts of dedicated 
do-gooders to protect the public from their own ignorance, we no 
longer have access to a lot of fun things. Who shall protect us from 
the ignorance of the do-gooders?

--Ediger


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[Texascavers] Abandoned Mine Lands

2007-12-06 Thread Louise Power

Any of you in the Western States (or elsewhere) who are interested in the 
BLM/Forest Service Abandoned Mine Lands program, see the following site:
 
http://www.blm.gov/wo/st/en/prog/more/Abandoned_Mine_Lands.html
 
The program only covers the 11 western states.

Re: [Texascavers] 2006 NSS Convention related

2007-12-06 Thread Mack Pitchford
Hey, it was only like that for a day! 
Then the rain returned  washed all the nasty snow away. 
Now it's clear and beautiful again. 
However, it's not perfect. You may recall how late the daylight lasted in the 
summer. Well, this is the time of year we pay for that. It gets dark by 4:30 
now. Come Solstice, I'll be ready to jump over some bonfires.

- Original Message 
From: David Locklear dlocklea...@gmail.com
To: Texas Cavers texascavers@texascavers.com
Sent: Wednesday, December 5, 2007 9:21:19 AM
Subject: [Texascavers] 2006 NSS Convention related

Does anybody remember the beautiful weather
in Bellingham during the 2006 NSS Convention?

It made me want to move up there.

Check out the weather they had on Monday:

http://media.bellinghamherald.com/smedia/2007/12/01/22/630-bham-20071202-000-floodwatchfollo-1922-MI0001.embedded.prod_affiliate.39.jpg

And it was supposed to be worse yesterday.

We don't get nasty weather like that here in Houston.

David Locklear

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