[Texascavers] Grant available for 2008 NCRC Seminar
The NCRC will award two $200 dollar scholarships to help students attend the NCRC national weeklong seminar in Mentone, AL May 3-10, 2008. To be considered please send a caving resume, 3 letters of support from NSS members, and a cover letter describing your financial need and how your cave rescue training would benefit the caving community in your region. Submit your information to Roger Mortimer, 1455 N. Echo Avenue, Fresno, CA 93728. All materials may be submitted electronically to ncrc-scholars...@sbcglobal.net. All materials must arrive by March 1, 2008 to be considered. -- Be safe, Tim White NSS 26949 RE FE Editor, Nylon Highway - Southeast Region Coordinator- National Cave Rescue Commission, NSS Be safe, Tim White NSS 26949 RE FE Editor, Nylon Highway - Southeast Region Coordinator- National Cave Rescue Commission, NSS Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Yahoo! Mobile. Try it now. http://mobile.yahoo.com/;_ylt=Ahu06i62sR8HDtDypao8Wcj9tAcJ - Visit our website: http://texascavers.com To unsubscribe, e-mail: texascavers-unsubscr...@texascavers.com For additional commands, e-mail: texascavers-h...@texascavers.com
[Texascavers] Caving 101
Here is an introductory caving web-page showing a San Antonio cave. http://www.spadout.com/wiki/index.php/Caving_101 - Visit our website: http://texascavers.com To unsubscribe, e-mail: texascavers-unsubscr...@texascavers.com For additional commands, e-mail: texascavers-h...@texascavers.com
RE: [Texascavers] Caving 101
The photo on the web page says Cub Cave but there is nothing like that in Cub. It is probably a photo of nearby Bear Cave. George -Original Message- From: David Locklear [mailto:dlocklea...@gmail.com] Sent: Tuesday, February 05, 2008 8:53 AM To: Texas Cavers Subject: [Texascavers] Caving 101 Here is an introductory caving web-page showing a San Antonio cave. http://www.spadout.com/wiki/index.php/Caving_101 - Visit our website: http://texascavers.com To unsubscribe, e-mail: texascavers-unsubscr...@texascavers.com For additional commands, e-mail: texascavers-h...@texascavers.com - Visit our website: http://texascavers.com To unsubscribe, e-mail: texascavers-unsubscr...@texascavers.com For additional commands, e-mail: texascavers-h...@texascavers.com
[Texascavers] RE: Guano Gathering
Cavers, Don't forget that this Saturday is the nth annual Guano Gathering at Bracken Bat Cave. We will be meeting at the cave at 10:30. A more detailed email will come out later this week. Start gathering 5-gallon buckets! -- Crash
[Texascavers] Job opening at Carlsbad Caverns National Park
Carlsbad Caverns National Park has just announced two laborer positions for the summer (six month position starting end of March/Beginning of April). The positions will be working with the Cave Resources Office to remove and replace some old off-trail structures (ladders, walkways, etc.). The announcement was supposed to go out Monday and is open for two weeks. The position number is listed below: CAVE-08-22DEU For more details, look it up on www.usajobs.gov
[ot_caving] computer news - Vista
Supposedly MicroSoft has nearly finished tweaking its next update for Vista - the now infamous Service Pack 1. But read this latest news from today: http://www.computerworld.com/action/article.do?command=viewArticleBasicarticleId=9060998 Sounds like another reason to buy a Mac. David Locklear - Give this to a friend: ot-subscr...@texascavers.com To unsubscribe, e-mail: ot-unsubscr...@texascavers.com For additional commands, e-mail: ot-h...@texascavers.com
[Texascavers] Karst management job opening
Karst Management Tech: https://rock.geosociety.org/g_corps/2007/allJobDescriptions.asp How to Apply: https://rock.geosociety.org/g_corps/2007/start.asp
[Texascavers] book ideas for ICS
Here are some books that might be of interest to book buyers at ICS. http://www.amazon.com/Proto-Neolithic-Cemetery-Shanidar-University-Anthropology/dp/1585442720 http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/0292731418 http://www.utexas.edu/utpress/pops/poptuttep.html http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ISBN=0890964033/jimbuzbeeA/ Have you ever heard of the Ye Olde Bat Book Shoppe ? http://www.batbox.org/books.html He seems to have a good assortment of bat books. David Locklear - Visit our website: http://texascavers.com To unsubscribe, e-mail: texascavers-unsubscr...@texascavers.com For additional commands, e-mail: texascavers-h...@texascavers.com
Re: [Texascavers] book ideas for ICS
Gee, David! You didn't feel that 50 Years Of Texas Caving might be of interest to those attending ICS? http://pages.suddenlink.net/carl-kunath/50_Years/50_Years.html ===Carl Kunath - Original Message - From: David Locklear To: Texas Cavers Sent: Tuesday, February 05, 2008 4:32 PM Subject: [Texascavers] book ideas for ICS Here are some books that might be of interest to book buyers at ICS. http://www.amazon.com/Proto-Neolithic-Cemetery-Shanidar-University-Anthropology/dp/1585442720 http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/0292731418 http://www.utexas.edu/utpress/pops/poptuttep.html http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ISBN=0890964033/jimbuzbeeA/ Have you ever heard of the Ye Olde Bat Book Shoppe ? http://www.batbox.org/books.html He seems to have a good assortment of bat books. David Locklear - Visit our website: http://texascavers.com To unsubscribe, e-mail: texascavers-unsubscr...@texascavers.com For additional commands, e-mail: texascavers-h...@texascavers.com -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.516 / Virus Database: 269.19.20/1259 - Release Date: 2/4/2008 8:42 PM
Re: [Texascavers] book ideas for ICS
He obviously hasn't read it yet :) Then again, none of those books he listed I have read, more to add to my book pile. Charles On 2/5/08, Carl Kunath carl.kun...@suddenlink.net wrote: Gee, David! You didn't feel that 50 Years Of Texas Caving might be of interest to those attending ICS? http://pages.suddenlink.net/carl-kunath/50_Years/50_Years.html ===Carl Kunath - Original Message - From: David Locklear To: Texas Cavers Sent: Tuesday, February 05, 2008 4:32 PM Subject: [Texascavers] book ideas for ICS Here are some books that might be of interest to book buyers at ICS. http://www.amazon.com/Proto-Neolithic-Cemetery-Shanidar-University-Anthropology/dp/1585442720 http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/0292731418 http://www.utexas.edu/utpress/pops/poptuttep.html http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ISBN=0890964033/jimbuzbeeA/ Have you ever heard of the Ye Olde Bat Book Shoppe ? http://www.batbox.org/books.html He seems to have a good assortment of bat books. David Locklear - Visit our website: http://texascavers.com To unsubscribe, e-mail: texascavers-unsubscr...@texascavers.com For additional commands, e-mail: texascavers-h...@texascavers.com -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.516 / Virus Database: 269.19.20/1259 - Release Date: 2/4/2008 8:42 PM
RE: [Texascavers] book ideas for ICS
Charles, Who among the NETCavers is a member of the TCMA. I have taken the job of organizing a TCMA Grotto Contact/Liason network to advocate for membership and support for the TCMA Cave Acquisition efforts, and to pass along project and work opportunities at TCMA properties. RD -Original Message- From: Charles Goldsmith [mailto:wo...@justfamily.org] Sent: Tuesday, February 05, 2008 9:16 PM To: Carl Kunath Cc: Texas Cavers Subject: Re: [Texascavers] book ideas for ICS He obviously hasn't read it yet :) Then again, none of those books he listed I have read, more to add to my book pile. Charles On 2/5/08, Carl Kunath carl.kun...@suddenlink.net wrote: Gee, David! You didn't feel that 50 Years Of Texas Caving might be of interest to those attending ICS? http://pages.suddenlink.net/carl-kunath/50_Years/50_Years.html ===Carl Kunath - Original Message - From: David Locklear To: Texas Cavers Sent: Tuesday, February 05, 2008 4:32 PM Subject: [Texascavers] book ideas for ICS Here are some books that might be of interest to book buyers at ICS. http://www.amazon.com/Proto-Neolithic-Cemetery-Shanidar-University-Anthropol ogy/dp/1585442720 http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/0292731418 http://www.utexas.edu/utpress/pops/poptuttep.html http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ISBN=0890964033/jimbuzbeeA/ Have you ever heard of the Ye Olde Bat Book Shoppe ? http://www.batbox.org/books.html He seems to have a good assortment of bat books. David Locklear - Visit our website: http://texascavers.com To unsubscribe, e-mail: texascavers-unsubscr...@texascavers.com For additional commands, e-mail: texascavers-h...@texascavers.com -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.516 / Virus Database: 269.19.20/1259 - Release Date: 2/4/2008 8:42 PM - Visit our website: http://texascavers.com To unsubscribe, e-mail: texascavers-unsubscr...@texascavers.com For additional commands, e-mail: texascavers-h...@texascavers.com
Re: [Texascavers] book ideas for ICS
I am the only one. On 2/5/08, RD Milhollin rdmilhol...@charter.net wrote: Charles, Who among the NETCavers is a member of the TCMA. I have taken the job of organizing a TCMA Grotto Contact/Liason network to advocate for membership and support for the TCMA Cave Acquisition efforts, and to pass along project and work opportunities at TCMA properties. RD -Original Message- From: Charles Goldsmith [mailto:wo...@justfamily.org] Sent: Tuesday, February 05, 2008 9:16 PM To: Carl Kunath Cc: Texas Cavers Subject: Re: [Texascavers] book ideas for ICS He obviously hasn't read it yet :) Then again, none of those books he listed I have read, more to add to my book pile. Charles On 2/5/08, Carl Kunath carl.kun...@suddenlink.net wrote: Gee, David! You didn't feel that 50 Years Of Texas Caving might be of interest to those attending ICS? http://pages.suddenlink.net/carl-kunath/50_Years/50_Years.html ===Carl Kunath - Original Message - From: David Locklear To: Texas Cavers Sent: Tuesday, February 05, 2008 4:32 PM Subject: [Texascavers] book ideas for ICS Here are some books that might be of interest to book buyers at ICS. http://www.amazon.com/Proto-Neolithic-Cemetery-Shanidar-University-Anthropol ogy/dp/1585442720 http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/0292731418 http://www.utexas.edu/utpress/pops/poptuttep.html http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ISBN=0890964033/jimbuzbeeA/ Have you ever heard of the Ye Olde Bat Book Shoppe ? http://www.batbox.org/books.html He seems to have a good assortment of bat books. David Locklear - Visit our website: http://texascavers.com To unsubscribe, e-mail: texascavers-unsubscr...@texascavers.com For additional commands, e-mail: texascavers-h...@texascavers.com -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.516 / Virus Database: 269.19.20/1259 - Release Date: 2/4/2008 8:42 PM - Visit our website: http://texascavers.com To unsubscribe, e-mail: texascavers-unsubscr...@texascavers.com For additional commands, e-mail: texascavers-h...@texascavers.com
[Texascavers] SAP pictures/Digital Inclo/Compass for cave surveying
I just received my SAP(Shetland Attack Pony) and have posted some pics here http://tinyurl.com/2cvppc it is a sweet device and will make the cave survey S much more comfortable for the instrument reader. The fact that you can place the SAP directly on the station and hold at any angle will also in my opinion give more consistent results over a broader range of skill levels. Total cost was about $580 U.S. -- Mark Passerby, InCaveDigitalSurveying.com
[Texascavers] ICS border trip suggestions
There are 2 border towns in Mexico close to the International Congress of Speleology. Piedras Negras ( 164 miles away - ~ 3 hours 15 minutes ) http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Piedras_Negras%2C_Coahuila http://www.traveltex.com/images/database_images/big/2003/pg15089.jpg Probably easier border crossing than Ciudad Acun~a. [ I passed thru this town once, but have never stopped there. ] Ciudad Acuña ( 152 miles away - ~ 2 hours 45 minutes ) http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ciudad_Acu%C3%B1a http://www.jstottphotography.com/2003/2003-09-03_-_usa/texas,_mexico_and_new_orleans/slides_l/dscn2085.jpg There are lots of good cantinas and a few good restaurants. Hunter's Ranch is rumored to be a whole lot of fun. ( easy to find - on top of the hill where the cities antennas are. on Hwy 2 ) You can get maps on-line of these cities on MapQuest. [ My grandparents took me to Acuña at the age of 5 in 1969.The A.S.S. used to go there for dinner ( Crosby's - I think )after several trips to Langtry around 1985. I have only been back a few times since then. ] The movies Desparado and El Mariachi with Antonio Banderas had bar scenes filmed in the Corona Club in Acuña. I don't know what the closest Mexican cave is to the Congress. In my opinion, iIlusive Pit is just too difficult to get to for a quick trip across the border. Grutas de Carrizal has so much guano and bats in it that some people may not think it is worth a quick trip from Kerrville just to see that cave. The hike to Precipicio in July is not a good idea. And the trip up to Minas Viajes is kind of hard on a passenger van. And going all the way to Monterrey to see a commercial cave, may be too much driving. Are some cavers planning on going to Palmito during the Congress? Since I can theoreticaly go to Palmito just about any weekend, I am not going to do that during the Congress. Here is a list of rock-art sites that may be worth visiting: 1.San Rafael de los Milagros 2.El Pelillal 3.Narihua In summary, if you are interested in trips to Mexico, there is a ton of information on the web and many old-timers have a lot of stories to tell about trips there. So don't be afraid to ask some one before venturing off down there. And there are some Cavetex readers from Mexico who can probably answer any questions you might have. David Locklear - Visit our website: http://texascavers.com To unsubscribe, e-mail: texascavers-unsubscr...@texascavers.com For additional commands, e-mail: texascavers-h...@texascavers.com
RE: [Texascavers] ICS border trip suggestions
Trips for the ICS are well into the planning stages. As I type, the trip descriptions are being reviewed and translated for posting on the website and printing in the 2nd Circular, which will be out in June. Keep checking the website over the next couple of months and you'll see details get posted periodically on a great variety of caving, family, and technical trips. George -Original Message- From: David Locklear [mailto:dlocklea...@gmail.com] Sent: Tuesday, February 05, 2008 3:03 PM To: Texas Cavers Subject: [Texascavers] ICS border trip suggestions There are 2 border towns in Mexico close to the International Congress of Speleology. Piedras Negras ( 164 miles away - ~ 3 hours 15 minutes ) http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Piedras_Negras%2C_Coahuila http://www.traveltex.com/images/database_images/big/2003/pg15089.jpg Probably easier border crossing than Ciudad Acun~a. [ I passed thru this town once, but have never stopped there. ] Ciudad Acuña ( 152 miles away - ~ 2 hours 45 minutes ) http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ciudad_Acu%C3%B1a http://www.jstottphotography.com/2003/2003-09-03_-_usa/texas,_mexico_and_new _orleans/slides_l/dscn2085.jpg There are lots of good cantinas and a few good restaurants. Hunter's Ranch is rumored to be a whole lot of fun. ( easy to find - on top of the hill where the cities antennas are. on Hwy 2 ) You can get maps on-line of these cities on MapQuest. [ My grandparents took me to Acuña at the age of 5 in 1969.The A.S.S. used to go there for dinner ( Crosby's - I think )after several trips to Langtry around 1985. I have only been back a few times since then. ] The movies Desparado and El Mariachi with Antonio Banderas had bar scenes filmed in the Corona Club in Acuña. I don't know what the closest Mexican cave is to the Congress. In my opinion, iIlusive Pit is just too difficult to get to for a quick trip across the border. Grutas de Carrizal has so much guano and bats in it that some people may not think it is worth a quick trip from Kerrville just to see that cave. The hike to Precipicio in July is not a good idea. And the trip up to Minas Viajes is kind of hard on a passenger van. And going all the way to Monterrey to see a commercial cave, may be too much driving. Are some cavers planning on going to Palmito during the Congress? Since I can theoreticaly go to Palmito just about any weekend, I am not going to do that during the Congress. Here is a list of rock-art sites that may be worth visiting: 1.San Rafael de los Milagros 2.El Pelillal 3.Narihua In summary, if you are interested in trips to Mexico, there is a ton of information on the web and many old-timers have a lot of stories to tell about trips there. So don't be afraid to ask some one before venturing off down there. And there are some Cavetex readers from Mexico who can probably answer any questions you might have. David Locklear - Visit our website: http://texascavers.com To unsubscribe, e-mail: texascavers-unsubscr...@texascavers.com For additional commands, e-mail: texascavers-h...@texascavers.com - Visit our website: http://texascavers.com To unsubscribe, e-mail: texascavers-unsubscr...@texascavers.com For additional commands, e-mail: texascavers-h...@texascavers.com
Re: [Texascavers] ICS border trip suggestions
Dont know who I should be writing this to.. I can lead trips and arrange access to any of the following: Palmito Minas Viejas (the road aint as bad is it was years ago) Chiquihuitillos Nico On Feb 5, 2008 4:24 PM, George Veni gv...@warpdriveonline.com wrote: Trips for the ICS are well into the planning stages. As I type, the trip descriptions are being reviewed and translated for posting on the website and printing in the 2nd Circular, which will be out in June. Keep checking the website over the next couple of months and you'll see details get posted periodically on a great variety of caving, family, and technical trips. George -Original Message- From: David Locklear [mailto:dlocklea...@gmail.com] Sent: Tuesday, February 05, 2008 3:03 PM To: Texas Cavers Subject: [Texascavers] ICS border trip suggestions There are 2 border towns in Mexico close to the International Congress of Speleology. Piedras Negras ( 164 miles away - ~ 3 hours 15 minutes ) http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Piedras_Negras%2C_Coahuila http://www.traveltex.com/images/database_images/big/2003/pg15089.jpg Probably easier border crossing than Ciudad Acun~a. [ I passed thru this town once, but have never stopped there. ] Ciudad Acuña ( 152 miles away - ~ 2 hours 45 minutes ) http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ciudad_Acu%C3%B1a http://www.jstottphotography.com/2003/2003-09-03_-_usa/texas,_mexico_and_new _orleans/slides_l/dscn2085.jpg There are lots of good cantinas and a few good restaurants. Hunter's Ranch is rumored to be a whole lot of fun. ( easy to find - on top of the hill where the cities antennas are. on Hwy 2 ) You can get maps on-line of these cities on MapQuest. [ My grandparents took me to Acuña at the age of 5 in 1969.The A.S.S. used to go there for dinner ( Crosby's - I think )after several trips to Langtry around 1985. I have only been back a few times since then. ] The movies Desparado and El Mariachi with Antonio Banderas had bar scenes filmed in the Corona Club in Acuña. I don't know what the closest Mexican cave is to the Congress. In my opinion, iIlusive Pit is just too difficult to get to for a quick trip across the border. Grutas de Carrizal has so much guano and bats in it that some people may not think it is worth a quick trip from Kerrville just to see that cave. The hike to Precipicio in July is not a good idea. And the trip up to Minas Viajes is kind of hard on a passenger van. And going all the way to Monterrey to see a commercial cave, may be too much driving. Are some cavers planning on going to Palmito during the Congress? Since I can theoreticaly go to Palmito just about any weekend, I am not going to do that during the Congress. Here is a list of rock-art sites that may be worth visiting: 1.San Rafael de los Milagros 2.El Pelillal 3.Narihua In summary, if you are interested in trips to Mexico, there is a ton of information on the web and many old-timers have a lot of stories to tell about trips there. So don't be afraid to ask some one before venturing off down there. And there are some Cavetex readers from Mexico who can probably answer any questions you might have. David Locklear - Visit our website: http://texascavers.com To unsubscribe, e-mail: texascavers-unsubscr...@texascavers.com For additional commands, e-mail: texascavers-h...@texascavers.com - Visit our website: http://texascavers.com To unsubscribe, e-mail: texascavers-unsubscr...@texascavers.com For additional commands, e-mail: texascavers-h...@texascavers.com
[Texascavers] RE: ICS border trip suggestions
David Locklear said: Piedras Negras Probably easier border crossing than Ciudad Acuña. Why would it be easier to cross at Piedras Negras? We crossed both ways at Acuña last Christmas and it was no problem. In general, I like smaller places like Indios or Solidarity rather than big places. Here is a list of rock-art sites that may be worth visiting: What about the Chiquihuitillos rock art site west of Bustamante canyon? Many Texas cavers have been there, and it is often offered in conjunction with the Bustamante Project weekends. That's one of the places Nico mentioned. Another area rock art site is Casa Blanca just off of the freeway between Monterrey and Saltillo. Mark Minton
