Re: [Texascavers] NM sinkhole

[Bill Bentley]

Nota drop in Midland Texas... We did get a 1/4 " of dust though!
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> Looks like a nuke hole.
>
>
> Gill Ediger wrote:
> > Here's a link to a little sinkhole action out in New Mexico.
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http://lh3.ggpht.com/n5lpcom/SIJG4XdrvoI/ALk/eFyW3Boinak/s800/DSC03502.jpg
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Re: [Texascavers] Storm report

[Lyndon Tiu]

It rained quite a bit in west Houston for most of last night after 
midnight and most of the day today. Don't know the inches.



Gill Ediger wrote:
 From my standpoint, LP, it was a total fizzle. We got 5/10s here in 
South Auxtin. Maybe they meant 13-15 inches over Texas if you added it 
all up.


Nico said they had only a few sprinkles in Sabinas Hidalgo.

Oh, well, maybe it'll rain next year,



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Re: [Texascavers] NM sinkhole

[Lyndon Tiu]

Looks like a nuke hole.


Gill Ediger wrote:

Here's a link to a little sinkhole action out in New Mexico.

http://lh3.ggpht.com/n5lpcom/SIJG4XdrvoI/ALk/eFyW3Boinak/s800/DSC03502.jpg 




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[Texascavers] NM sinkhole

[Gill Ediger]

Here's a link to a little sinkhole action out in New Mexico.

http://lh3.ggpht.com/n5lpcom/SIJG4XdrvoI/ALk/eFyW3Boinak/s800/DSC03502.jpg


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Re: [NMCAVER] NM caves in the news

[Gill Ediger]

At 09:58 PM 7/24/2008, jen . wrote:
>  I'm not sure why they need 5 roads to get to the well pad either.

The roads I can kinda understand. It's the 2 burro trails that I wonder about.

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[Texascavers] Storm report

[Gill Ediger]

At 11:49 AM 7/24/2008, Louise Power wrote:
Is everybody in the storm path OK? Looks like there might be some 
more cave flooding out of this.


From my standpoint, LP, it was a total fizzle. We got 5/10s here in 
South Auxtin. Maybe they meant 13-15 inches over Texas if you added it all up.


Nico said they had only a few sprinkles in Sabinas Hidalgo.

Oh, well, maybe it'll rain next year,
--Ediger



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Re: [NMCAVER] NM caves in the news

[Larry Pardue]

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On Jul 24, 2008, at 8:58 PM, jen . wrote:

>
> Saw this article in the local paper today. I'm surprised the salt  
> beds extends up to Artesia, but looks like there might be some new  
> karst to explore. I'm not sure why they need 5 roads to get to the  
> well pad either.
> http://www.santafenewmexican.com/Local%20News/Officials-rethink- 
> drilling-rules-after-well-s-collapse
>

Here is a another photo, that I took on the third day, during a  
collapse.

http://lh3.ggpht.com/n5lpcom/SIJG4XdrvoI/ALk/eFyW3Boinak/s800/ 
DSC03502.jpg

Larry Pardue


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[NMCAVER] NM caves in the news

[jen .]

Saw this article in the local paper today. I'm surprised the salt beds extends 
up to Artesia, but looks like there might be some new karst to explore. I'm not 
sure why they need 5 roads to get to the well pad either.
http://www.santafenewmexican.com/Local%20News/Officials-rethink-drilling-rules-after-well-s-collapse

Also, the snowy river story is finally making the news big time.  I had two 
people at work ask me about it today.
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20080724/ap_on_sc/exploring_snowy_river_4

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[ot_caving] Humble/Exxon wiki, etc

[Gill Ediger]

Humble Oil



From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Humble Oil and Refining Co. was founded in 1911. 
The company would later consolidate with Standard 
Oil of New Jersey to become Exxon.



Early history

Exxon U.S.A. traces its descent from the Humble 
Oil Company, which was chartered in Texas in 
February 1911 with a capital of $150,000 (raised 
to $300,000 in 1912). The company was reorganized 
in 1917 and incorporated on June 21 as the Humble 
Oil and Refining Company with a capitalization of 
$1 million based on 40,000 shares at $100 par 
value. The original company resulted from the 
collaboration of 
Ross 
S. Sterling and 
Walter 
Fondren, Sr. with 
Robert 
L. Blaffer and 
William 
Stamps Farish II and others. In the new 
organization were merged the Paraffine Oil 
Company, Blaffer and Farish, Schulz Oil Company, 
Ardmore Oil Company, and Globe Refining Company.


In February 1919, Humble doubled the number of 
shares authorized and sold 50 percent of its 
stock to Standard Oil Company of New Jersey. This 
initiated Humble's long-term connection with the 
company that eventually absorbed it as Exxon 
Company, U.S.A. Standard Oil of New Jersey was 
identified as the particular target of antitrust 
enforcers in Texas in the early decades of the 
twentieth century, and the corporation found it 
much easier to do business in the state through 
Humble, its partially owned but autonomously 
directed affiliate. In 1948 Humble had issued a 
total of eighteen million shares with a total 
capitalization of $475 million; Standard Oil 
Company of New Jersey owned 72 percent of the stock.


In 1917 Humble had 217 wells and a daily crude 
oil production of about 9 million barrels 
(1,400,000 m³). The company's production was 
expanded steadily. It made large additions to its 
reserves in the 1930s and increased production 
during World War II in order to meet war needs. 
Humble became the largest domestic producer of 
crude oil during the war and continued in that 
position into the 1950s. In 1949 the company had 
a net production of 275,900,000 barrels 
(43,860,000 m³) daily of crude oil and 15,900,000 
barrels (2,530,000 m³) daily of natural-gas 
liquids. At the end of 1949 the company was operating 9,928 wells.



Consolidation with Standard Oil of New Jersey

In the 1950s Standard Oil of New Jersey began to 
reconsider its relationship with Humble Oil. In 
spite of the fact that Standard owned almost 88 
percent of Humble's stock in 1954, Humble 
continued to maintain its autonomy for the rest 
of the decade. In 1958 Standard increased its 
holdings to some 98 percent of Humble's stock, 
and the following year Humble and Standard Oil of 
New Jersey consolidated domestic operations. In 
September 1959 Humble received a new charter from 
the state of Delaware. By the end of the year 
Esso Standard and the Carter Oil Company, other 
affiliates of Standard of New Jersey, were 
incorporated into Humble, and in 1960 they were 
joined by other affiliates including Enjay 
Chemical, Pate Oil, Globe Fuel Products, and 
Oklahoma Oil. The restructuring allowed the new 
Humble company to reduce duplication and costs 
and to coordinate all of its domestic activities 
more effectively. The Humble workforce dropped by 
a quarter in the first five years after the merger, while its profits doubled.


Humble's restructuring allowed both companies to 
sell and market gasoline nationwide under the 
Esso, 
Enco and 
Humble brands. The Enco brand was introduced by 
Humble in 1960 at stations in 
Ohio but was 
soon blackballed after Standard Oil of Ohio 
(Sohio) 
protested that Enco (Humble's acronym for "ENergy 
COmpany") sounded and looked too much like Esso 
as it shared the same oval logo with blue border 
and red letters with the two middle letters the 
only difference. At that point, the stations in 
Ohio would be rebranded Humble until the name change to Exxon in 1972.


After the Enco brand was discontinued in Ohio, it 
was moved to other non-Esso states. The Humble 
brand was used at 
Texas 
stations for decades as those operations were 
under the direction of Jersey Standard affiliate, 
Humble Oil, and in the mid-to-late 1950s expanded 
to other Southwestern states including 
New 
Mexico, 
Arizona, 
and 
Oklahoma. 
In 1961, Humble stations in Oklahoma, New Mexico 
and Arizona were rebranded as Enco and the Enco 
brand appeared on gasoline and lubricant products

[Texascavers] New Larry Matthews Book

[Alex Sproul]

CAVES OF KNOXVILLE AND THE GREAT SMOKY MOUNTAINS, by Larry 
E. Matthews, has just arrived at your NSS Bookstore!

* Learn about the use of caves in the Knoxville and Great Smoky Mountains 
  area by American Indians.
* Learn how many of these caves were mined for saltpeter, the main   
  ingredient of gunpowder, during both the War of 1812 and the Civil War.
* Read the story of the Lost Sea, the largest underground lake in North 
  America, as scuba divers explore its depths.
* Learn how Gap Cave was discovered in 1750 by Thomas Walker, 
  guardian of young Thomas Jefferson.
* The complete story of the exploration and commerical development of 
  fourteen Knoxville and Great Smoky Mountain area caves.
* Read fascinating, never-before-published details of the exploration of 
  these caves.

256 pages, softbound.  Retail is $24, Member Price is $22, Lifers $20!

Get yours now at www.NSSBookstore.org!


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[Texascavers] Ozark Plateau National Wildlife Refuge job opening

[speleosteele]

Texas cavers,

You may remember Steve Hensley. He came to our TSA Convention in 2007 and gave 
a presentation. He's a great guy. This would be a great job. The cost of living 
in NE Oklahoma is low. The people are friendly and it's the prettist part of 
the state.

Steve wrote:

It looks like I will be getting some help at Ozark Plateau National Wildlife 
Refuge.  Attached is a generic job announcement from the Division of Personnel 
Management for a GS 7/9 Refuge Operation Specialist for the refuge.  In 
addition to everything in the job announcement, what we are looking for someone 
who knows something about caves and federally listed cave species and who gets 
along well with private landowners and other partners.  The closing date is 
August 11.  This will be a good “hands on” position with opportunities to: 

Coordinate cave, forest, watershed, and ground water recharge area management 
with private landowners, conservation organizations, universities, tribes, and 
federal and state agencies. 

Conduct field surveys to monitor Ozark big-eared bat, gray bat, cavefish, and 
cave crayfish summer and winter populations. 

Survey and monitor other cave and forest resources. 

Serve on cave mapping teams with local grottos (chapters of the National 
Speleological Society) to document refuge cave resources. 

Plan and construct appropriately designed cave gates with help from cavers, 
conservation organizations, and agencies to control access to important caves. 

Continue to search for new caves with important resources that might provide 
opportunities for acquisition or conservation easements or agreements. 

Work on watershed planning committees. 

Assist universities with research on cave and forest resources. 

Provide technical assistance to adjoining and nearby private landowners through 
the Service’s Partners for Fish and Wildlife Program and other opportunities. 

I would appreciate it if you could pass this along to anyone you know who might 
be interested in such a position and would make a good hand.  Information on 
the Ozark Plateau NWR is attached.  If anyone has any questions or needs more 
information please contact me at: 

Steve Hensley 
Ozark Plateau National Wildlife Refuge 
U.S. Fish and Wildlife Service 
Route 1, Box 18A 
Vian, OK 74962 
918-382-4507 
918-775-9073 (cell) 
918-581-7467 (Fax) 
steve_hens...@fws.gov 

Thanks 
Steve

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[NMCAVER] Job announcement: NCKRI Education Director

[George Veni]

Dear Friends,

 

The National Cave and Karst Research Institute (NCKRI) is building its staff
by hiring a Director to establish, lead, and coordinate our Education
Program. I'm sending you this message because of your interest in caves,
karst, and NCKRI. While many of you won't be interested in the job for
yourselves, please forward this note to anyone you think may be interested.
You are also welcome to post it on websites and in newsletters.

 

NCKRI's interest in education is not just in the traditional classroom
sense, but at all levels to include reaching policy-makers, agencies,
organizations, and the general public at national and international levels.
We're looking for someone with a strong education background, with an
emphasis in the physical or environmental sciences, and the ability to lead
and develop effective educational programs. Certainly experience in caves
and karst is desired. However, applicants with limited cave and karst
knowledge but with related experience and a proven ability to learn and
adapt well, will definitely be considered.

 

The job announcement has recently been posted at
http://externalweb.nmt.edu/hr/jobs/AsscDirofEdNCKRI08-098.htm. The
announcement has also been sent to various education organizations'
magazines and websites. Since some of those won't be printed until
September, we plan to accept applications through mid-October. I will also
be out of town much of this time (beginning 9 August), and so if you have
questions, please direct them to the contact listed on the website.

 

The job will be stationed in Carlsbad, New Mexico. When I moved here 18
months ago, several people asked why I would want to live in Carlsbad. In
all honesty, I wasn't sure I wanted to. But when my wife and I took a close
look at the town, we found a lot more here than people see when casually
driving through. We wouldn't have moved here unless we were sure we could be
happy, and we are. I encourage anyone interested in the Education Director
position to come give Carlsbad a good look. It's a good place to live and
NCKRI promises an exciting future to whoever gets this job.

 

George

 

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Executive Director

National Cave and Karst Research Institute

1400 Commerce Dr.

Carlsbad, New Mexico 88220  USA

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001-575-887-5517 (office)

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[Texascavers] July issue of the Oztotl Caver

[speleosteele]

I'm willing to send an electronic copy of the July issue of the Oztotl Caver, 
the monthly newsletter of the DFW Grotto, to anyone who e-mails me and asks for 
it.

If you would like to subscribe to the Oztotl Caver, and receive it every month 
for $10 per year, say so when you e-mail me and I'll write back and tell you 
where to mail your check. Just think, 12 issues for a mere $10. That's cheaper 
than gas for your car.

Bill Steele
DFW Grotto Chairman

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[Texascavers] July issue of the Oztotl Caver

[speleosteele]

I'm willing to send an electronic copy of the July issue of the Oztotl Caver, 
the monthly newsletter of the DFW Grotto, to anyone who e-mails me and asks for 
it.

If you would like to subscribe to the Oztotl Caver, and receive it every month 
for $10 per year, say so when you e-mail me and I'll write back and tell you 
where to mail your check. Just think, 12 issues for a mere $10. That's cheaper 
than gas for your car.

Bill Steele
DFW Grotto Chairman

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[ot_caving] crappy journalism

[David]

Cavers need to have a big annual award to the reporter who writes
the crappiest cave related story.

In the attached rescue article:

http://www.nwanews.com/adg/News/231817/

Note the girl is in an Arkansas cave and she is "500 feet below the
surface."

Then note a few paragraphs later, "she was nearing the mouth of the
cave when she became trapped."


Then they claimed "workers toiled for 17 hours to free her"   yet the
workers
didn't even show up to the park until 13 hours before the pulled her out.


Then they claimed "it took workers 45 minutes to get her out of the cave."

As if they had to carry her on a stretcher? or what?

How about saying "because she was so tired, it took her 45 minutes to walk
and crawl out the rest of the way out of the cave; occasionally
needing the assistance of the rescue team."

David

[Texascavers] Arkansas cave rescue

[David]

This story appeared today in an Arkansas on-line paper



A Van Buren teenager trapped in a cave at Devil's Den State Park over the
weekend is
expected to make a full recovery from an afternoon outing which became a
nightmare
for Bianca Calloway and her parents.

Calloway, 17, remained hospitalized Monday at Washington Regional Medical
Center in
Fayetteville after she slipped in a section of Satan's Maze in the main cave
and became
wedged in an hourglass-shapped crevice.

"She is doing OK," her father, Louis, said Monday. "She has not been
released because
of pneumonia in her left lung. She has bruises all over her body and one
rock was pressed up against her kidney."


The ordeal began for the Van Buren High School senior about 2 p.m. Friday
when she was the last to enter
the cave with a group of friends from the Community Bible Church in Fort
Smith. Her legs became wedged
in a rock formation when she lost her footing.

More than 50 rescuers worked through the night to free Bianca. Rescuers,
using a pulley system and a
harness, pulled Bianca from the rocks shortly after 6 a.m. Saturday. She
walked, with help, out of the cave.

"The worst is over," Louis Calloway said. "The rescue workers were amazing
and gave 110 percent
figuring how to get her out of the cave and then getting her out. It was
hard on everyone knowing
what she was going through."


Calloway said the waiting was hard on everyone.
"Her mother (Menchu) and I were constantly reassured that rescue workers
would get her out and she would be fine," Louis Calloway said.
"But, every now-and-then doubt would creep in."

Her friends were not worried at first, 17-year-old Whitney Keen told the
Morning News in Springdale.
They tried to pull her out, but could not. After 20 or 30 minutes the
teenagers realized they needed help.

Keen left the group trying to comfort Bianca and went to the mouth of the
cave to look for help.
She found Nathan Crane, a University of Oklahoma student, walking the trail
and asked for his help.


Crane also was unable to remove Bianca from the cramped space. Park rangers
were then contacted
after the now-scared teenager had been trapped for more than a hour. Park
rangers called the
Washington County Search and Rescue team which arrived from Fayetteville
about 6 p.m.,
four hours after the ordeal began.

"She was wedged vertically into a vertical space," said John Luther,
director of the Washington County
Department of Emergency Management. "It was an hourglass-shaped hole and you
had to fall a certain
way to get trapped. There was no way to work on either side of her."

Bianca's parents arrived about 6:30 p.m.
"We kept waiting and waiting," said Louis Calloway. "The rescue workers
changed strategies to get
her out more safely, but one that would take more time. A rock was pressing
against her back which
could not be cleared by her hips. They had to break the rock."

Rescuers chipped away at the rock with hammers, chisels and drills. They
used webbing, ropes,
air bags and haul systems. Baby oil was one of the low-tech methods applied,
Luther said.

Bianca was given plenty of hot fluids, wrapped in blankets and rescuers used
a hair dryer to keep her warm.

Keith Culbertson, a member of the search and rescue squad, eventually
devised a plan using pulleys.
"Basically, we lifted her up and over to an angle," Culbertson told the
Morning News.
"After that, we got her foot under her and convinced her to help us walk her
out."

It took rescue crew members 15 minutes to get the girl from the cave along
forest foot trails
to the ambulance at the main road.

Louis Calloway said his daughter seems fines.
"Everyone keeps asking her if she is going to be OK in a dark room,"
Calloway said.
"She finally asked, 'What is everyone waiting for me to freak out.' She did
fine up there also."
Friday's trip to Devil's Den was the first for Bianca and the first time to
explore a cave.

The trip was not a church outing, just with friends from Community Bible
Church where she was baptized July 13.
"It was a bad situation," Calloway said. "She was in one of the worst places
in the cave to get stuck.
Now, she is getting great care at the hospital and she will be fine in a few
days.

[NMCAVER] Must-have item for cavers

[Haley Woods]

This is really cool.  Check it out.
~ Haley


> To: cascadegro...@yahoogroups.com
> From: hubert.s...@wamu.net
> Date: Thu, 24 Jul 2008 11:44:43 -0700
> Subject: [CascadeGrotto] Must-have item for cavers
> 
> 
> http://www.rei.com/product/766054
> This is surprisingly bright
> 
> You could probably wear it under a helmet if the helmet headband was
> loosened up a bit
> 
> I don't think it is waterproof though and no idea how long it runs on
> one set of (quarter (25 cents)-sized) batteries
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[ot_caving] LED lights - part 2

[David]

One of the lights I mentioned earlier today can be found on-line cheaper.

http://www.rayovacdirect.com/images/PRODUCT/large/37060.jpg

Cost $ 30 on-line. Weighs 0.69 pound.


Here is the next light I will be hunting for:

http://www.dorcy.com/products.aspx?p=414294

David

Re: [Texascavers] deal on gear

[Diana Tomchick]

Working again until the next water cave trip...never had such a  
problem with a Duo. They take a licking and keep on ticking. Heck,  
that light I loaned you was run over by two different pickup trucks,  
and it still works like a charm.


Diana


On Jul 24, 2008, at 12:37 PM, James C. Brown, 972-683-8836 (W),  
206-339-4616 (VM/FAX) wrote:



Diana,

It wasn't the battery compartment that leaked, it was the push  
button cover that leaked water onto the switches.  I disassembled  
the lamp and the switches had corrosion on them.


Cleaned and repacked with silicone grease.  Working again.

James


On Thursday, July 24, 2008, at 12:19PM, "Diana Tomchick" > wrote:

The Mountain Gear web site for the Petzl Myo XP headlamp states:

"Wear it in the rain, wear it in a drippy, water-filled cave, wear it
on a snowy XC ski track - the Myo XP is water resistant for use in  
any

clime."

Two weekends ago, cave diver James Brown's Myo XP underwent a  
meltdown

of sorts in a Texas water cave. The battery compartment leaked, and
while James was diving, the XP started to randomly flash on and off.
Since it was still on his helmet, and the helmet was perched on a  
rock

with the light pointing towards the sump, it seemed as though it was
sending signals to him ("come back James, this is the way home!").
Amusing effect, but only because I was able to loan him a spare Petzl
Duo that gave him no problems on the long way out of the cave (his XP
crashed and wouldn't work reliably).

Diana

On Jul 24, 2008, at 10:38 AM, Geary Schindel wrote:


For those of you who use Petzl equipment, Mountain Gear is having a
25th anniversy sale and has, among many things, Petzl Ascension
Ascenders on sale for $44.97.  They also have some deals on Petzl
helmets.  rope, and other gear.

They are at www.mountaingear.com

Geary


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Diana R. Tomchick
Associate Professor
University of Texas Southwestern Medical Center
Department of Biochemistry
5323 Harry Hines Blvd.
Rm. ND10.214B   
Dallas, TX 75390-8816, U.S.A.   
Email: diana.tomch...@utsouthwestern.edu
214-645-6383 (phone)
214-645-6353 (fax)





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Associate Professor
University of Texas Southwestern Medical Center
Department of Biochemistry
5323 Harry Hines Blvd.
Rm. ND10.214B   
Dallas, TX 75390-8816, U.S.A.   
Email: diana.tomch...@utsouthwestern.edu
214-645-6383 (phone)
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Re: [Texascavers] deal on gear

[Diana Tomchick]

The Mountain Gear web site for the Petzl Myo XP headlamp states:

"Wear it in the rain, wear it in a drippy, water-filled cave, wear it  
on a snowy XC ski track - the Myo XP is water resistant for use in any  
clime."


Two weekends ago, cave diver James Brown's Myo XP underwent a meltdown  
of sorts in a Texas water cave. The battery compartment leaked, and  
while James was diving, the XP started to randomly flash on and off.  
Since it was still on his helmet, and the helmet was perched on a rock  
with the light pointing towards the sump, it seemed as though it was  
sending signals to him ("come back James, this is the way home!").  
Amusing effect, but only because I was able to loan him a spare Petzl  
Duo that gave him no problems on the long way out of the cave (his XP  
crashed and wouldn't work reliably).


Diana

On Jul 24, 2008, at 10:38 AM, Geary Schindel wrote:

For those of you who use Petzl equipment, Mountain Gear is having a  
25th anniversy sale and has, among many things, Petzl Ascension  
Ascenders on sale for $44.97.  They also have some deals on Petzl  
helmets.  rope, and other gear.


They are at www.mountaingear.com

Geary


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[Texascavers] Storm report

[Louise Power]

Is everybody in the storm path OK? Looks like there might be some more cave 
flooding out of this. Weathercasters were predicting 13-15 inches of rain in 
places and extensive flooding. Cave safely!!

Re: [Texascavers] Storm report

[Nico Escamilla]

We've only got about .5" of the 10+ forecasted for my area. the rain's not
over yet but Dolly seems to be getting weaker by the hour.

On Thu, Jul 24, 2008 at 11:49 AM, Louise Power 
wrote:

>  Is everybody in the storm path OK? Looks like there might be some more
> cave flooding out of this. Weathercasters were predicting 13-15 inches of
> rain in places and extensive flooding. Cave safely!!
>

[Texascavers] deal on gear

[Geary Schindel]

For those of you who use Petzl equipment, Mountain Gear is having a 25th 
anniversy sale and has, among many things, Petzl Ascension Ascenders on sale 
for $44.97.  They also have some deals on Petzl helmets.  rope, and other gear. 
 

They are at www.mountaingear.com

Geary

RE: [ot_caving] Good Movie

[Louise Power]

I was in Barcelona on that date and the concierge of the hotel woke up all the 
Americans so we could come down and watch the moon landing. Unfortunately, the 
voiceover was in Spanish and since they were playing the English at the same 
time, we couldn't understand what either was saying very well.> From: 
ca...@caver.net> To: o...@texascavers.com> Date: Thu, 24 Jul 2008 06:51:48 
-0500> Subject: [ot_caving] Good Movie> > I rarely find time to watch TV in 
great length, but I caught this last> Sunday morning and found it to be a most 
entertaining and it brought back> memories of the July 1969 NASA Apollo Moon 
mission.> http://movies.yahoo.com/movie/1804383664/details> > Bill> > > 
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Re: [Texascavers] OT - medical breakthrough for diabetes ?

[Pete Lindsley]

David, I found something like one of those in a cave we were  
surveying about 5 years ago in a belly crawl area. Troy had just lost  
it a few minutes before. Maybe the newer technology is better than  
the older unit.


 - Pete

On Jul 24, 2008, at 8:00 AM, David wrote:

I am posting this hear because it looks like important news to cavers.


On a newscast this week, a reporter demonstrated a
medical patch that has a built-in tiny needle.

http://www.keyetv.com/media/news/b/f/a/bfa55839-ad38-4fc8-bd45- 
fb8d68bd3e82/Original.jpg


If I understood this correctly, a diabetes patient slaps the patch on  
their abdomen.
The tiny needle is replaced with a tiny catheter, and the patch/ 
catheter is worn for 3 days.


Using a needle the patient gives themselves injections thru the tiny  
catheter.


David Locklear

RE: [ot_caving] Re: KLRU Program on Flooding

[Louise Power]

Let's be clear about our definition of one-hundred-year floodplain:
 
one-hundred-year floodplain 
 




The relatively flat portion of a river channel that has a one percent chance of 
being inundated by flood waters in any given year. 



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Date: Tue, 22 Jul 2008 21:47:16 -0500From: pitbouncer@gmail.comTo: 
wavycaver@gmail.comCC: ot@texascavers.comSubject: Re: [ot_caving] Re: KLRU 
Program on Flooding
HA! 100 years flood plains scare you? developers here in Mexico are so greedy 
that they build on recurrent flood plains, (read every couple years)they build 
houses by the thousands and the average life expectancy of said houses is less 
than 4 years cause they're built so cheaply.how do they get away with it? why, 
bribing the government of courseNico
On Tue, Jul 22, 2008 at 8:57 PM, Don Cooper  wrote:

See:www.floodsafety.org 



On Tue, Jul 22, 2008 at 8:53 PM, Don Cooper  wrote:

I wish everyone could be watching this!I have never realized what a tremendous 
amount of waste that "corporate america" (money vested developers) has spent 
and then gained anew through deception and peoples gullibility through building 
and rebuilding in "100 year flood plains" (which in the New Braunfields area 
has been reached almost every 10 years). Fascinating!  Disgusting!-WaV

[ot_caving] LED's in the house

[David]

Recently I indicated that I strongly felt that the future of home lighting
was with LED's.

Here is an example of what I was getting at:

http://i.i.com.com/cnwk.1d/i/bto/20080718/shower_light_270x290.jpg


The same could happen to the toilet and the sink and the stove and
the refrigerator and the closets.

The LED lights will come on automatically and only shine light where
they need to.

This will save an average house over $ 100 a year in electricity and help
our planet's environment.

David

[ot_caving] more new LED lights

[David]

The Sears Hardware store has several new interesting LED flashlights.

One of them is by Rayovac and features a 4 watt LED along with a lens
collator. Unfortunately, it is to heavy and bulky for most caving, but
would
be suitable on a road-trip to keep in the glove box for emergencies.I
think
it uses 3 C-cell batteries.  The price was around $ 55.

Another light, by Dorcy has a rechargable battery, a car adapter and a very
bright LED rated at 220 whopping lumens.  The price was around $ 65.
You could probably use this light for photography in a big room.

Another has a built in cigarette charger into the handle of the light.
An ingenious
cover screws over to protect the adapter making it look like a regular
flashlight.
This would be ideal for having around camp, if you are camping near your
car,
especially if your car lets you charge it when the motor is off.

The other lights were not anything new, but their prices were lower than
some of the other similar lights that recently appeared on the market.

I plan to test about 3 or 4 new retail LED lights in the coming months, and
will post something.

David Locklear
Independent armchair caver in Fort Bend County, Texas
NSS # 27639

Re: [Texascavers] Einhornhoehle (German show cave)

[Don Cooper]

Ah - so unicorns really did exist!
:-)
-WaV

On Thu, Jul 24, 2008 at 8:53 AM, Ted Samsel  wrote:

>  http://www.einhornhoehle.de/Start/x.htm
>
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> The German hydrogeologist I work with sent me this.. one of her former
> colleagues is working here now..
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> T.
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[Texascavers] Einhornhoehle (German show cave)

[Ted Samsel]

http://www.einhornhoehle.de/Start/x.htmThe German hydrogeologist I work with sent me this.. one of her former colleagues is working here now..
 
T.

http://home.infionline.net/~tbsamsel/

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RE: [Texascavers] OT - medical breakthrough???

[Kate Walker]

That's pretty cool.  Not much of a breakthrough for Type 1 diabetics - they can 
use an insulin pump to save themselves from frequent injections and control 
insulin levels better at the same time.  But there was a patient story on the 
website about a woman with a blood clotting disorder who bruised when she 
injected, and the i-port reduced the severity of her bruising.
 
Kate



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Date: Thu, 24 Jul 2008 08:00:45 -0500From: dlocklear01@gmail.comTo: 
texascavers@texascavers.comSubject: [Texascavers] OT - medical breakthrough for 
diabetes ?
I am posting this hear because it looks like important news to cavers.
 
 
On a newscast this week, a reporter demonstrated a 
medical patch that has a built-in tiny needle.  
 
http://www.keyetv.com/media/news/b/f/a/bfa55839-ad38-4fc8-bd45-fb8d68bd3e82/Original.jpg
  
 
If I understood this correctly, a diabetes patient slaps the patch on their 
abdomen. 
The tiny needle is replaced with a tiny catheter, and the patch/catheter is 
worn for 3 days.
 
Using a needle the patient gives themselves injections thru the tiny catheter.
 
The patient interviewed called it a medical breakthrough.
 
www.i-port.com
 
 
David Locklear
 
 
Ref:
 
http://www.keyetv.com/content/lifestyle/medwatch/story.aspx?content_id=5e2ed7c0-97a5-43e7-9943-c6b3135e504b
 
http://www.pattonmd.com/
 
 
Keyword Search: KK Patton and diabetes
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[Texascavers] OT - medical breakthrough for diabetes ?

[David]

I am posting this hear because it looks like important news to cavers.


On a newscast this week, a reporter demonstrated a
medical patch that has a built-in tiny needle.

http://www.keyetv.com/media/news/b/f/a/bfa55839-ad38-4fc8-bd45-fb8d68bd3e82/Original.jpg


If I understood this correctly, a diabetes patient slaps the patch on their
abdomen.
The tiny needle is replaced with a tiny catheter, and the patch/catheter is
worn for 3 days.

Using a needle the patient gives themselves injections thru the tiny
catheter.

The patient interviewed called it a medical breakthrough.

www.i-port.com


David Locklear


Ref:

http://www.keyetv.com/content/lifestyle/medwatch/story.aspx?content_id=5e2ed7c0-97a5-43e7-9943-c6b3135e504b

http://www.pattonmd.com/


Keyword Search: KK Patton and diabetes

[ot_caving] Good Movie

[Bill Bentley]

I rarely find time to watch TV in great length, but I caught this last
Sunday morning and found it to be a most entertaining and it brought back
memories of the July 1969 NASA Apollo Moon mission.
http://movies.yahoo.com/movie/1804383664/details

Bill


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