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Re: CONFIRM subscribe to texascavers@texascavers.com

2008-12-31 Thread Charles Goldsmith
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RE: [ot_caving] saving energy

2008-12-31 Thread Louise Power

I'd like to see the crime statistics in this village after this has been tried 
for awhile. For you Austin oldtimers, you probably remember the days before the 
artificial moonlight. Are they still using those? 
 
And, speaking of energy saving, I noticed that the big New Years Eve ball in 
New York has gone to LED lights this year.



From: quinta@clearwire.netTo: ot@texascavers.comDate: Tue, 23 Dec 2008 07:03:09 
-0600Subject: [ot_caving] saving energy



A village in Germany is pioneering a method of saving energy and reducing 
carbon emissions by switching off the street lights at night.
But local residents can use their mobile phones to turn the street lights back 
on again for 15-minute periods whenever they want. 
Steve Rosenberg visited Doerentrup in north-west Germany to see how it works. 
 
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/technology/7795492.stm

[Texascavers] New Years Eve Celebration

2008-12-31 Thread Geary Schindel
Folks,

Just wanted to wish everyone a happy New Year.  

Also, if you do a little too much partying or get a little too wild this 
evening, the state has a great free ride program and free nights stay at the 
local Cross Bar Hotel.  Just call 911.

Geary

[ot_caving] computer news - memory prices

2008-12-31 Thread David
Check out some of these memory prices on a 1 gig stick of DDR2:

http://www.geeks.com/products_sc.asp?cat=720

Most are in the $ 15 to $ 20 range.

I don't quiet understand how RAM is not affected much by inflation.

If you bought a desktop computer a year or 2 ago, it probably
only came with 1 gig of DDR2.Right?

At those prices, why not put 4 gigs of RAM in your computer.
It is a very simple upgrade.

I believe that most computer users of XP will not be able to use
more than 4 gigs, and probably wouldn't need to anyways.

Just 10 years ago, I was doing computer drafting at a research
engineering company and my PC only had 128 kilobytes of RAM,
and we were excited when the company doubled the RAM to 256 K.

David Locklear

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Re: [ot_caving] computer news - memory prices

2008-12-31 Thread Charles Goldsmith
For most computer users, 2 gig of ram seems to be the sweet spot, this
applies to most power users.  The only caveat to that is anyone doing
a lot of graphic or  work, photoshop, etc need a lot more.

And you are correct, XP (32 bit) which is most of the XP installs, can
only address a max of 3.5gb of ram.  Anything more is a huge waste.
This applies to all operating systems that are 32 bit.  Also, before
you run out and upgrade your XP or Vista to 64 bit, keep in mind, your
motherboard/processor have to support 64 bit as well, or things won't
work as you want.

Mac users need not worry, OSX is all 64 bit :)

Charles

On Wed, Dec 31, 2008 at 2:44 AM, David dlocklea...@gmail.com wrote:
 Check out some of these memory prices on a 1 gig stick of DDR2:

 http://www.geeks.com/products_sc.asp?cat=720

 Most are in the $ 15 to $ 20 range.

 I don't quiet understand how RAM is not affected much by inflation.

 If you bought a desktop computer a year or 2 ago, it probably
 only came with 1 gig of DDR2.Right?

 At those prices, why not put 4 gigs of RAM in your computer.
 It is a very simple upgrade.

 I believe that most computer users of XP will not be able to use
 more than 4 gigs, and probably wouldn't need to anyways.

 Just 10 years ago, I was doing computer drafting at a research
 engineering company and my PC only had 128 kilobytes of RAM,
 and we were excited when the company doubled the RAM to 256 K.

 David Locklear

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Re: [ot_caving] computer news - memory prices

2008-12-31 Thread Don Cooper
ANOTHER Caveat -
And this especially applies to VISTA (Oh, I forgot they call it Mojave
now):
Many peripherals have no drivers written (yet) to handle 64 bit operating
systems.
One of the presents my brother gave to himself and his home entertainment
system on Xmas was a new HP computer to go with his 42 HP plasma flat
screen panel.
He got gobs of memory, and to be able to address those gobs, he had the
computer pre-installed with Vista 64  to handle 5 or 6 gigs. (one gig, I
believe is dedicated to video shadowing)
As his flat screen did not come with a broadcast HD receiver (ATSC
compatible or something like that?) he figured he'd finally overcome that
shorfall with a HD TV card in his 'television computer'.   So after months
of furtive dismissal of my dissaproval of Vista (and I've never been a
microsoft fan) now he's got egg on his face.  Maybe he'll have better luck
with a Hauppage card - but the one he bought flat out didnt work and the
customer service reps he reached didn't seem to understand the issue.
The internal BlueRay player - made by LG - did work.  However, older
releases of movies seem to employ 'dithering' to hike that resolution up to
1240 x 1080p - so the disk might BE B.R. but if you look close enough you
can tell that bit by bit - its only been extrapolated from DVD format.
-Happy New Year
 WaV

On Wed, Dec 31, 2008 at 10:35 AM, Charles Goldsmith wo...@justfamily.orgwrote:

 For most computer users, 2 gig of ram seems to be the sweet spot, this
 applies to most power users.  The only caveat to that is anyone doing
 a lot of graphic or  work, photoshop, etc need a lot more.

 And you are correct, XP (32 bit) which is most of the XP installs, can
 only address a max of 3.5gb of ram.  Anything more is a huge waste.
 This applies to all operating systems that are 32 bit.  Also, before
 you run out and upgrade your XP or Vista to 64 bit, keep in mind, your
 motherboard/processor have to support 64 bit as well, or things won't
 work as you want.

 Mac users need not worry, OSX is all 64 bit :)

 Charles

 On Wed, Dec 31, 2008 at 2:44 AM, David dlocklea...@gmail.com wrote:
  Check out some of these memory prices on a 1 gig stick of DDR2:
 
  http://www.geeks.com/products_sc.asp?cat=720
 
  Most are in the $ 15 to $ 20 range.
 
  I don't quiet understand how RAM is not affected much by inflation.
 
  If you bought a desktop computer a year or 2 ago, it probably
  only came with 1 gig of DDR2.Right?
 
  At those prices, why not put 4 gigs of RAM in your computer.
  It is a very simple upgrade.
 
  I believe that most computer users of XP will not be able to use
  more than 4 gigs, and probably wouldn't need to anyways.
 
  Just 10 years ago, I was doing computer drafting at a research
  engineering company and my PC only had 128 kilobytes of RAM,
  and we were excited when the company doubled the RAM to 256 K.
 
  David Locklear
 
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