[NMCAVER] ***SPAM*** Bats and WNS on Fox News
Earlier this week Fox News had a report about bats, how beneficial they are, and about White Nose Syndrome. See it at http://www.foxnews.com/search-results/m/23751735/white-nose-syndrome.htm#q=White+Nose+Syndrome. Accompanying the video is a machine-generated transcript which is even worse than machine translations of written text. It is obvious their speech-recognition software has a long way to go. One amusing tidbit: it transcribed "insects" as "in sex". Mark Minton ___ NMCAVER mailing list nmca...@caver.net http://caver.net/mailman/listinfo/nmcaver_caver.net
[NMCAVER] Do you need a ride to ICS?
If you need a ride to Convention/ICS - I could use two more passengers/relief drivers. Have one rider now, Laura Rosales. We will be leaving from the Fort Stanton BLM Bunkhouse on July 18 and returning day after Convention/ICS is over. Reply by email or call my cell or NCA phone below. Mike Bilbo Fort Stanton Cave National Conservation Area, Cave Program Manager/ BLM-NM Leave No Trace Coordinator Roswell Field Office 2909 West 2nd Roswell, New Mexico 88201 mike_bi...@blm.gov BLM Cell: 575-420-7121 Ft. Stanton Cave NCA Phone/Fax 575-354-5034 Roswell Desk 575-627-0222 Roswell Fax 575-627-0276 http://www.nm.blm.gov ___ NMCAVER mailing list nmca...@caver.net http://caver.net/mailman/listinfo/nmcaver_caver.net
[Texascavers] ICS Driver Volunteers
This email is to A) inform folks that Saturday July 18 is Van Pickup Day at Capps and Enterprise and B) request from drivers the times they can drive. I realize many of you have informed me of your requested volunteer times already, however many things have changed for some of you, and me as well. Please re-iterate and remind me of your desired driving times and dates. A) First is the Van Pickup Day. On Saturday July 18, 18 Vans will be picked up from Capps near the San Antonio Airport. 4 Vans are being picked up by other volunteers for their own use to move equipment to Kerrville and 3 vans are being picked up by San Antonio Airport Shuttle volunteers for use between the Airport and Kerrville for airport arrival guests. That leaves 11 Vans from Capps and 4 vans From Enterprise. I am in charge of retrieving the Capps Vans and Don Broussard is in charge of retrieving Enterprise Vans. I need 10 volunteers to pick up Vans at Capps. Don B. will need three or four for his vans. Contact Don B., to help him, at don.brouss...@att.net The times of the Van pickups is flexible that day. However I will be taking a Van from Kerrville that morning, with any available drivers already in Kerrville, and heading to Capps in San Antonio first thing Saturday. The 11 vans will be picked up, driven to the Airport to pick up any travelers and head to Kerrville and dropped at the motor pool. This IS in addition to the Airport Shuttles already doing the Airport run, this is just a matter of assisting them, and it's on the way. Details to be announced later. Who can help me with this? I need ten people over 25 years of age. Sunday July 26 and Monday July 27 these vans need to be returned from Kerrville to San Antonio. Each day will be about 15 vans, give or take. Who can help me with this? Don Broussard needs folks to help him pick up 4 Vans from Enterprise, located at 1505 Harry Wurzbach near the Fort Sam Houston National Cemetery in San Antonio and take them to Kerrville that same day. Who can help with this? These need to be returned Monday the 27 as well. B) I need to know WHEN you are available, SPECIFICALLY, to help for trips. Most Caving trips have drivers already, however there are several Cultural trips needing drivers as well. I will begin assigning drivers to vans ASAP. Please get ahold of me NOW. Thanks for your help, it will be fun! My mobile and primary phone number is (361) 362-3677 --- Don Arburn donarb...@mac.com 2009 15th International Congress of Speleology Transportation Coordinator NSS# 56822RL
texascavers Digest 1 Jul 2009 22:06:45 -0000 Issue 789
texascavers Digest 1 Jul 2009 22:06:45 - Issue 789 Topics (messages 11133 through 11154): Re: Texas in summertime: rattlesnakes 11133 by: Louise Power 11134 by: Fritz Holt 11135 by: Minton, Mark article on Martian caves 11136 by: Mixon Bill lava tubes article 11137 by: Mixon Bill 11142 by: Geary Schindel Kerrville and canoe related 11138 by: David The caving convention is in need of YOUR help 11139 by: Jon 11140 by: Jon 11145 by: George Veni moccasin venom 11141 by: Nancy Weaver July 4th party 11143 by: Geary Schindel ICS - Do you like beer?!? 11144 by: Joe Ranzau 11146 by: Joe Ranzau 11149 by: tbsamsel.verizon.net Re: Caves, mines, and buried treasures 11147 by: Thomas Sitch Bandit's Cave in Austin 11148 by: Matt Turner OT - geology related 11150 by: David cave fatality in the news today 11151 by: David Caves in the news 11152 by: David Bats and WNS on Fox News 11153 by: Minton, Mark ICS Driver Volunteers 11154 by: Don Arburn Administrivia: To subscribe to the digest, e-mail: texascavers-digest-subscr...@texascavers.com To unsubscribe from the digest, e-mail: texascavers-digest-unsubscr...@texascavers.com To post to the list, e-mail: texascavers@texascavers.com -- ---BeginMessage--- Andy and all, I didn't see water moccasins, Agkistrodon piscivorus leucostoma (aka cottonmouths), on the list and can't remember whether they live in Central Texas and West Texas or not. I know we had them in East Texas in the lakes and swamps. They, too, are venemous and should be given a wide berth. Some are marked similarly to a rattler and have a light colored tail which could be mistaken for rattles. See http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Water_moccasin for more information. Louise List-Post: texascavers@texascavers.com Date: Mon, 29 Jun 2009 12:07:54 -0700 From: andrew_gluesenk...@yahoo.com To: o...@texascavers.com; fh...@townandcountryins.com CC: texascavers@texascavers.com Subject: [Texascavers] Texas in summertime: rattlesnakes Hi folks, The video that Fritz posted links to spurred me to share a few tips on snake do’s and don’ts. I’ve been answering 2-3 calls per day regarding snake encounters and it seems appropriate to address the issue with ICS on the horizon (pardon the pun). -There are 76 species of snakes in Texas, 11 are venomous. -The most commonly seen snakes are nonvenomous (Texas rat snake, water snakes) but the most commonly seen venomous snake (Western diamondback) is quite dangerous. -Snakes are generally shy and don't want anything to do with you. Most rattlesnakes go undetected because they choose to sit quiet and hide rather than get in a confrontation with some dangerous human. -Common sense dicates that you watch where you put your hands and feet. However, some cave entrances are rattler magnets. Toss a few pebbles down the entrance or probe the entrance with a long stick to determine if it is occupied. To the uninitiated: the warning rattle of a rattlesnake sounds like running water or a swarm of buzzing bees. You'll know when you hear it. -Rattlesnakes can only strike about 1/3 of their total length. Given that the Texas record Western diamondback was about 7ft (2m), that means that even the biggest snake would not be able to strike you from only a yard (1m away). However, it is best to give them all the room you can. -The typical snakebite victim is a male between the ages of 18 and 25 with a blood alcohol concentration of 0.08%, too drunk to drive. Most snakebites are on the hand or foot. The most common sound heard just before a snakebite is Hey guys, check this out! I'm gonna kill me a rattler! I hope everyone finds this helpful. Andy Andy Gluesenkamp, PhD Herpetologist Nongame Rare Species Texas Parks Wildlife Dept 4200 Smith School Road Austin, TX 78744 (512) 389-8722 Andrew G. Gluesenkamp, Ph.D. 700 Billie Brooks Drive Driftwood, Texas 78619 (512) 799-1095 a...@gluesenkamp.com --- On Mon, 6/29/09, Fritz Holt fh...@townandcountryins.com wrote: From: Fritz Holt fh...@townandcountryins.com Subject: [Texascavers] FW: Rattlesnake at Falcon Lake To: Off Topic o...@texascavers.com Cc: texascavers@texascavers.com texascavers@texascavers.com List-Post: texascavers@texascavers.com Date: Monday, June 29, 2009, 1:22 PM Forwarded advice for caving friends, especially in Texas. Fritz ; Subject: Rattlesnake at Falcon Lake http://bassfan.com/tv_play.asp?id=119 Click on this! This guy is crazy! Gives me the ‘hebeegeebies’ didn’t realize rattlesnakes could float in the water if they stopped moving, and coiled up… I couldn’t help but laugh even though I related to the son- who
[ot_caving] Forest System protection
FYI I just got this you might be interested Quinta Great news: A federal judge just struck down the Bush administration's rules limiting protection and citizen oversight of the entire 193-million acre National Forest System. The Bush rules stripped away the U.S. Forest Service's requirement to maintain viable wildlife populations whenever it planned a new clear-cut, mine, or road. The rules also banned the Forest Service from even considering environmental impacts when developing long-term management plans guiding million of acres of lands. The court, however, agreed with the Center for Biological Diversity's lawsuit that such willful disregard for endangered species, clean water, and quiet recreation violated the Endangered Species Act and other laws, and struck down the rules in their entirety. Our national forests provide critically important habitat for thousands of fish, wildlife, and plant species, and are a source of clean water and recreational opportunities for millions of Americans. We look forward to working with the Obama administration to develop a new set of rules that truly protect the invaluable resources they contain. Enjoy this major victory for our national forests. Thank you for helping make it happen. We'll be calling on you soon to contact the Obama administration to ensure its new rules do everything possible for wildlife and wild places.
