[Texascavers] UT Grotto meeting - Wednesday November 18, 2009
Underground Texas Grotto meeting - Wednesday November 18, 2009 www.utgrotto.org The meeting is on Wednesday from 7:45 P.M. - 9:00 P.M. University of Texas Campus in 2.48 Painter Hall http://www.utexas.edu/maps/main/buildings/pai.html Sean Lewis will be presenting Indiana Cave Exploration. Sean recently came to Austin and Texas caving from Indiana where he was involved in a number of projects that included some spectacular photography. The most recent National Cave Rescue Commission (NCRC) http://www.caves.org/ncrc/national class was held in Indiana that conveys the extremes that state has available for caving adventures. Come check out some very cool caves from a different region. Please see the web site for information on all UT Grotto activities. All of our information is available including officer contact info, trip reports, new caver training, and an event calendar that lists upcoming caving trips, beginner trips, vertical rope training, or other cool social event activities. Occasionally, some cavers gather beforehand about 6:30 at Sau Paulo www.saopaulos.net for happy hour margaritas, and then we walk over to the meeting. After the Official Grotto meeting, we migrate to Posse East www.posseeast.com for beer & burgers, recruit for upcoming trips, and share caving stories. The UT Grotto needs you, the bold caver with photos and a story to share about your adventures, scientific research, or something else really cool. Contact Gary v...@utgrotto.org to schedule you into our incredible Program series. - Visit our website: http://texascavers.com To unsubscribe, e-mail: texascavers-unsubscr...@texascavers.com For additional commands, e-mail: texascavers-h...@texascavers.com
[Texascavers] Jill Orr
I got the info needed. Thanks, everybody! Confidentiality Note: This email and any attachment to it are confidential and protected by law and intended for the use of the individual(s) or entity named on the email. If the reader of this message is not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any dissemination or distribution of this communication is prohibited. If you have received this communication in error, please notify the sender via return email and delete it completely from your email system. If you have printed a copy of the email, please destroy it immediately. Thank you
[Texascavers] Jill Orr contact info
Does anyone have Jill's phone # and email? I tried sending her an email earlier and it bounced, and need to get in touch with her soon. Thanx. -- Jim Confidentiality Note: This email and any attachment to it are confidential and protected by law and intended for the use of the individual(s) or entity named on the email. If the reader of this message is not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any dissemination or distribution of this communication is prohibited. If you have received this communication in error, please notify the sender via return email and delete it completely from your email system. If you have printed a copy of the email, please destroy it immediately. Thank you
Re: [Texascavers] LCROSS finds lunar water
I think this is really interesting.but wonder how safe it would be to drink water from moon ice.maybe I have seen too many Sci fi flicksbut isn't it possible for there to be substances in that water that we might not want to ingest? Sent from my iPhone On Nov 16, 2009, at 1:41 PM, cavera...@aol.com wrote: These results make me wonder how different a course the manned space program might have taken if one of the Apollo ships had landed in a polar crater. But then, I suppose they would have all flash-frozen, so that might not have been such a good outcome! But what if we had this data in 1969? Roger Moore GHG -Original Message- From: Sean Lewis To: texascavers@texascavers.com Sent: Fri, Nov 13, 2009 4:45 pm Subject: [Texascavers] LCROSS finds lunar water This may not be cave related, but it is certainly exciting for those of us interested in this frontier of exploration. http://www.nasa.gov/mission_pages/LCROSS/main/prelim_water_results.html We will have to stay tuned for more information about the concentration of ice at the impact site.
Re: [Texascavers] LCROSS finds lunar water
These results make me wonder how different a course the manned space program might have taken if one of the Apollo ships had landed in a polar crater. But then, I suppose they would have all flash-frozen, so that might not have been such a good outcome! But what if we had this data in 1969? Roger Moore GHG -Original Message- From: Sean Lewis To: texascavers@texascavers.com Sent: Fri, Nov 13, 2009 4:45 pm Subject: [Texascavers] LCROSS finds lunar water This may not be cave related, but it is certainly exciting for those of us interested in this frontier of exploration. http://www.nasa.gov/mission_pages/LCROSS/main/prelim_water_results.html We will have to stay tuned for more information about the concentration of ice at the impact site.
[NMCAVER] NSS HQ Commission
NSS Volunteer Opportunities The NSS Board of Governors has established an NSS Headquarters Commission (HQComm) to oversee the creation of a new NSS headquarters facility, and adopted an NSS Headquarters Commission Charter. The NSS is now soliciting applications for the Chairman of this Commission. This is a volunteer position, which will entail considerable work, and is expected to take up to seven years to complete. Click here to see the HQComm Charter an the HQComm Chairman Job Description. For additional information, contact presid...@caves.org. http://www.caves.org/info/headquarters/index.shtml _ Hotmail: Trusted email with Microsoft's powerful SPAM protection. http://clk.atdmt.com/GBL/go/177141664/direct/01/ http://clk.atdmt.com/GBL/go/177141664/direct/01/ ___ NMCAVER mailing list nmca...@caver.net http://caver.net/mailman/listinfo/nmcaver_caver.net
RE: [Texascavers] The ant cave
Just too bad we didn't get to see the whole thing. List-Post: texascavers@texascavers.com Date: Sun, 15 Nov 2009 07:45:25 -0600 From: gi...@att.net To: texascavers@texascavers.com Subject: Re: [Texascavers] The ant cave I'm not particularly concerned about the precariousness of the world ant population suffering on account of one interesting science experiment. That thing could be written off as a piece of natural art. There's no shortage of ants. --Ediger On Sat, Nov 14, 2009 at 10:37 PM, Denise P wrote: Too bad they had to kill them all and destroy everything to check it out. The woes of science. -Denise List-Post: texascavers@texascavers.com Date: Sat, 14 Nov 2009 22:16:22 -0600 From: gi...@att.net To: texascavers@texascavers.com Subject: [Texascavers] The ant cave Here is a giant ant bed that they poured concrete into and then excavated it. It's truly worth looking at: http://www.break.com/index/giant-ant-colony-is-a-world-wonder.html --Ediger Bing brings you maps, menus, and reviews organized in one place. Try it now.
RE: [Texascavers] The Fourth Quarter issue of The TEXAS CAVER is now online!
Thank you, thank you very much! Mark From: germa...@aol.com [mailto:germa...@aol.com] Sent: Mon 11/16/2009 10:18 AM To: Alman, Mark @ IRP; texascavers@texascavers.com Subject: Re: [Texascavers] The Fourth Quarter issue of The TEXAS CAVER is now online! Another fine issue, Mark! Well done! julia -Original Message- From: mark.al...@l-3com.com To: texascavers@texascavers.com Sent: Mon, Nov 16, 2009 7:39 am Subject: [Texascavers] The Fourth Quarter issue of The TEXAS CAVER is now online! All, the fourth quarter version of The TEXAS CAVER has been posted to the Members Area by our very own near and dear and recuperating web extraordinaire, Butch Fralia.
Re: [Texascavers] The Fourth Quarter issue of The TEXAS CAVER is now online!
Another fine issue, Mark! Well done! julia -Original Message- From: mark.al...@l-3com.com To: texascavers@texascavers.com Sent: Mon, Nov 16, 2009 7:39 am Subject: [Texascavers] The Fourth Quarter issue of The TEXAS CAVER is now online! All, the fourth quarter version of The TEXAS CAVER has been posted to the Members Area by our very own near and dear and recuperating web extraordinaire, Butch Fralia. This is a smaller issue than the third quarter 64 page Mega ICS TC (Heck, the TSA would be bankrupt if every issue was 64 pages!), but is special, nevertheless. In this issue: We have some excellent trip reports and photos from Justin and Kurt Menking and their recent explorations and from our new 2010 Vice Chair, Ellie Thoene, on her Amazing Maze trip. There are articles and photos from the post ICS party for Chris Nicola and Barb McLeod from Bill Steele and Lyndon Tiu, a photo collage of TCR pix taken by David Ochel and moi in the inside cover, and another entertaining "Carbide Corner" from Mark Minton. Finally, I was fortunate enough to have received some excellent older photos of Ed Alexander sent in by James Jasek and some touching and very special photos sent in of Ed and his family taken by Frank Binney. This last issue of the TC for 2009 is available to all TSA members. Not a TSA member? No problem! We still would like for you to contemplate becoming a TSA member. Send me an email for your complimentary past issue of the TEXAS CAVER and see what you've been missing. Visit the TSA website at www.cavetexas.org and become a paid member and/or become an online member of the TSA. If you're a TSA member, but haven't yet joined the Digital Revolution, it is extremely painless to do so. Go to http://www.cavetexas.org/members/ and sign up and enjoy the current and back issues! Please remember to select how you want your TC: mail or digital. Be sure to also peruse the back issues of the TEXAS CAVER, if you haven't done so already. There now are a total of 17 issues of the Pulitzer worthy TEXAS CAVER available for your reading pleasure! You can still opt to receive a hard copy TC, but will have to wait a couple of weeks, at the earliest, to receive your latest newsletter via snail mail. The Members Area continues to expand very well and we currently have grown to 86 members, with 48 opting to receive their TC digitally. This is a substantial savings to the TSA and has helped us manage to stay in the black this year! Finally, I want to thank all of the cavers who submitted material for this issue and all of the past issues of The TEXAS CAVER. This is YOUR newsletter and I couldn't do it without YOU! So as the caving season starts in earnest, don't be bashful. Be sure to get those articles, photos, and trip reports written and sent in. Without you, there is no TSA or TEXAS CAVER! Thanks! Mark Alman - TSA Chairman and TEXAS CAVER Editor =
Re: [PBSS] Wall Photos
Thank you, Bill, for providing the photograph and for organizing the entire project. Did everyone make it home safely? --- On Mon, 11/16/09, Bill Bentley wrote: From: Bill Bentley Subject: Re: [PBSS] Wall Photos To: "PBSS Mailing List" , "New Mexico Mailing List" , "Texascavers Mailing List" Cc: "Missouri mailing List" List-Post: texascavers@texascavers.com Date: Monday, November 16, 2009, 9:37 AM http://www.caver.net/2009rockhaul/DSC02717.JPG L-R In this photo: Katy Roodenko, Walter Castruita, Kerry Lowery, Charles Goldsmith, Lori Hales, Jacqui Thomas, Patrick Ray, Sharon Long, Ruel Metcalf, Bill Bentley, Jim McLean, Martha McArthur, Walter Feaster, Steve Webb, Jamie Lankford, & Udi Fuchs I guess Facebook had issues... Bill - Original Message - From: Bill Bentley To: PBSS Mailing List ; New Mexico Mailing List ; Texascavers Mailing List Cc: Missouri mailing List Sent: Sunday, November 15, 2009 8:09 PM Subject: Wall Photos http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?pid=30333580 -Inline Attachment Follows- ___ PBSS mailing list p...@caver.net http://caver.net/mailman/listinfo/pbss_caver.net ___ PBSS mailing list p...@caver.net http://caver.net/mailman/listinfo/pbss_caver.net
[Texascavers] Re: archiving your cave data
David Locklear said: >I think the next hurdle is to develop a laptop that doesn't use batteries, and uses a crank and some kind of power saving device not affected by storage. Why not make your computer solar powered? I don't know the expected lifetime of solar panels, but ones stored dry and in the dark might last a long time. Take them and your archived computer out into the sun and let 'er rip. Presumably there will still be sunshine, unless the future is a Matrix sort of world. ;-) Actually, electricity will still likely be used and available in some form for a long time. Just provide a simple set of terminals on your computer and any power source of the future with the proper voltage and amperage should work. The bigger problem would be communicating anything 500 years into the future. What language would you use? Bill Mixon said: >Anyway, there wouldn't be any convenient way to get the data out of the computer, even if you could read it on screen. It seems likely that some sort of scanning technology will be around for quite a while. Assuming the language on the screen could be understood, it shouldn't be too much trouble to scan it, or take the equivalent of movies of it, and then convert that into whatever the current digital format is. Again the bigger problem would be making the archived output meaningful. Pictures might be better than anything written. Mark You may reply to mmin...@caver.net Permanent email address is mmin...@illinoisalumni.org - Visit our website: http://texascavers.com To unsubscribe, e-mail: texascavers-unsubscr...@texascavers.com For additional commands, e-mail: texascavers-h...@texascavers.com
[Texascavers] Re: caving question
David Locklear said: >I wonder is it o.k. to say, "We went cave snorkeling in an underwater cave" ? My opinion is that sounds weird. It should sound weird, because it wouldn't work. An underwater cave is one that is completely sumped. If it has airspace, it's not underwater. Snorkels don't work underwater... Mark Minton You may reply to mmin...@caver.net Permanent email address is mmin...@illinoisalumni.org - Visit our website: http://texascavers.com To unsubscribe, e-mail: texascavers-unsubscr...@texascavers.com For additional commands, e-mail: texascavers-h...@texascavers.com
[Texascavers] Re: Wall Photos
http://www.caver.net/2009rockhaul/DSC02717.JPG L-R In this photo: Katy Roodenko, Walter Castruita, Kerry Lowery, Charles Goldsmith, Lori Hales, Jacqui Thomas, Patrick Ray, Sharon Long, Ruel Metcalf, Bill Bentley, Jim McLean, Martha McArthur, Walter Feaster, Steve Webb, Jamie Lankford, & Udi Fuchs I guess Facebook had issues... Bill - Original Message - From: Bill Bentley To: PBSS Mailing List ; New Mexico Mailing List ; Texascavers Mailing List Cc: Missouri mailing List Sent: Sunday, November 15, 2009 8:09 PM Subject: Wall Photos http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?pid=30333580
[Texascavers] The Fourth Quarter issue of The TEXAS CAVER is now online!
All, the fourth quarter version of The TEXAS CAVER has been posted to the Members Area by our very own near and dear and recuperating web extraordinaire, Butch Fralia. This is a smaller issue than the third quarter 64 page Mega ICS TC (Heck, the TSA would be bankrupt if every issue was 64 pages!), but is special, nevertheless. In this issue: We have some excellent trip reports and photos from Justin and Kurt Menking and their recent explorations and from our new 2010 Vice Chair, Ellie Thoene, on her Amazing Maze trip. There are articles and photos from the post ICS party for Chris Nicola and Barb McLeod from Bill Steele and Lyndon Tiu, a photo collage of TCR pix taken by David Ochel and moi in the inside cover, and another entertaining "Carbide Corner" from Mark Minton. Finally, I was fortunate enough to have received some excellent older photos of Ed Alexander sent in by James Jasek and some touching and very special photos sent in of Ed and his family taken by Frank Binney. This last issue of the TC for 2009 is available to all TSA members. Not a TSA member? No problem! We still would like for you to contemplate becoming a TSA member. Send me an email for your complimentary past issue of the TEXAS CAVER and see what you've been missing. Visit the TSA website at www.cavetexas.org and become a paid member and/or become an online member of the TSA. If you're a TSA member, but haven't yet joined the Digital Revolution, it is extremely painless to do so. Go to http://www.cavetexas.org/members/ and sign up and enjoy the current and back issues! Please remember to select how you want your TC: mail or digital. Be sure to also peruse the back issues of the TEXAS CAVER, if you haven't done so already. There now are a total of 17 issues of the Pulitzer worthy TEXAS CAVER available for your reading pleasure! You can still opt to receive a hard copy TC, but will have to wait a couple of weeks, at the earliest, to receive your latest newsletter via snail mail. The Members Area continues to expand very well and we currently have grown to 86 members, with 48 opting to receive their TC digitally. This is a substantial savings to the TSA and has helped us manage to stay in the black this year! Finally, I want to thank all of the cavers who submitted material for this issue and all of the past issues of The TEXAS CAVER. This is YOUR newsletter and I couldn't do it without YOU! So as the caving season starts in earnest, don't be bashful. Be sure to get those articles, photos, and trip reports written and sent in. Without you, there is no TSA or TEXAS CAVER! Thanks! Mark Alman - TSA Chairman and TEXAS CAVER Editor
