Re: [Texascavers] PDF related
I was a year behind on the news of the electronic readers. The 4 most popular ones are all using cell service now. Here is one that might be good for reading caving newsletters: http://g-ecx.images-amazon.com/images/G/01/kindle/nell/photos/hero-top-right-05._V244132736_.jpg Pete was right. More are on the way and in color: http://www.wired.com/images_blogs/gadgetlab/2009/09/asuseeereader-300x244.jpg I have seen cave maps in PDF. A wide-screen e-reader might work better for that. David Locklear
Re: [Texascavers] PDF related
David, what it may mean is that you can now read ANY pdf on it - you don't have to generate the pdf via Amazon. But it is still in B&W! You'll see some color copy-cats in the next few months I bet. - Pete On Nov 24, 2009, at 1:04 PM, David wrote: The latest Kindle electronic reader, supposedly now supports PDF viewing. Does that mean that you could sit somewhere in a wi-fi place and read on-line caving newsletters on it ? Wouldn't it work better with 3G or 4G service ? That way you could read it anywhere within cell signal range. David Locklear - Visit our website: http://texascavers.com To unsubscribe, e-mail: texascavers-unsubscr...@texascavers.com For additional commands, e-mail: texascavers-h...@texascavers.com
[Texascavers] TCR photos online - TSA Website
I know that folks have been posting TCR photos all over the place on Flickr and Facebook. However, in keeping with tradition, I've been slowly but surely getting photographs posted on the TSA website as well. Thanks to Mark Alman and David Ochel for the photos they've made available. If anyone else would like to contribute, please contact me off list so we can figure out how to get them to me. I didn't get captions for the photos so if you have suggestions, please send them. They'd be appreciated. There are 75 photos up now with more on the way. You can see them at: http://cavetexas.org/photos/TCR2009/index.php Regards, Butch Fralia Healing Webmaster
Re: [Texascavers] Re: Hunters being the hunted in Mexico
The Explorer Post in San Antonio I joined so I could cave (Post 9 Agudas Achim Synagogue) went to Potrero in 1964, before I joined. In 1965.. Stuart Isgur may have been there. (Or so I seem to recall.) TNov 24, 2009 03:38:28 PM, mmin...@caver.net wrote: David Locklear said:>I stopped by one of these lodges about 8 years ago, in the off season, to see if there were any good deals for staying over-night. ( I didn't want to stay in a road-side motel on the way back north to San Fernando. )>The lodge was very plain and very expensive.>I didn't see any reason to stay at the one I visited, unless you were a rich hunter.Not all of those hunting lodges are plain, although I suspect all are indeed expensive. Many years ago we visited one called Paloma Blanca south of Sabinas Hidalgo. It was like a classic Mexican Hacienda. The owner was an American who also owned land near El Potrero (south of Bustamante) with caves and mines on it, which Brian Burton had learned of. We stopped at the lodge to ask permission to explore his caves. I don't know how much it cost to stay there, but the owner was incredibly gracious, inviting us in for margaritas and giving us free reign at his place in Potrero, including use of the fancy house there. We only went to Potrero a couple of times but still had some good leads. Unfortunately Paloma Blanca closed down and we lost track of the owner. Potrero would be a good place to go back to.Mark MintonYou may reply to mmin...@caver.netPermanent email address is mmin...@illinoisalumni.org -Visit our website: http://texascavers.comTo unsubscribe, e-mail: texascavers-unsubscr...@texascavers.comFor additional commands, e-mail: texascavers-h...@texascavers.com - Visit our website: http://texascavers.com To unsubscribe, e-mail: texascavers-unsubscr...@texascavers.com For additional commands, e-mail: texascavers-h...@texascavers.com
[Texascavers] Re: Hunters being the hunted in Mexico
David Locklear said: >I stopped by one of these lodges about 8 years ago, in the off season, to see if there were any good deals for staying over-night. ( I didn't want to stay in a road-side motel on the way back north to San Fernando. ) >The lodge was very plain and very expensive. >I didn't see any reason to stay at the one I visited, unless you were a rich hunter. Not all of those hunting lodges are plain, although I suspect all are indeed expensive. Many years ago we visited one called Paloma Blanca south of Sabinas Hidalgo. It was like a classic Mexican Hacienda. The owner was an American who also owned land near El Potrero (south of Bustamante) with caves and mines on it, which Brian Burton had learned of. We stopped at the lodge to ask permission to explore his caves. I don't know how much it cost to stay there, but the owner was incredibly gracious, inviting us in for margaritas and giving us free reign at his place in Potrero, including use of the fancy house there. We only went to Potrero a couple of times but still had some good leads. Unfortunately Paloma Blanca closed down and we lost track of the owner. Potrero would be a good place to go back to. Mark Minton You may reply to mmin...@caver.net Permanent email address is mmin...@illinoisalumni.org - Visit our website: http://texascavers.com To unsubscribe, e-mail: texascavers-unsubscr...@texascavers.com For additional commands, e-mail: texascavers-h...@texascavers.com
[Texascavers] PDF related
The latest Kindle electronic reader, supposedly now supports PDF viewing. Does that mean that you could sit somewhere in a wi-fi place and read on-line caving newsletters on it ? Wouldn't it work better with 3G or 4G service ? That way you could read it anywhere within cell signal range. David Locklear
[Texascavers] long sump passed in Spain
According to reports in number 173 of the Cave Diving Group Newsletter, British cave divers Jason Mallinson and Rick Stanton succeeded in passing Sump 2 in Pozo Azul, Burgos, Spain, the culmination of a multi-year project involving numerous British and Spanish assistants. Just reaching the start of Sump 2 requires a 250- meter walk to the cave entrance, diving 700-meter Sump 1, a 300-meter swim, and 100 meters of walking. As a result, camping between the sumps has been used to enable the divers to get a fresher start in Sump 2. Work in Sump 2, which reaches a maximum depth of 68 meters, involved multiple scooters, rebreathers, and underwater habitats for decompression. The ascent back toward the surface at the end of the sump is paced by monitoring decompression obligation on dive computers. The sump was finally passed on July 24, 2009, by Rick Stanton, 140 meters beyond the end of Mallinson's line, at a total length of 5160 meters. The dry passage ran only about 20 meters to new Sump 3, dived for 160 meters by Stanton before he turned back. Reaching the present end of Pozo Azul requires 6020 meters of diving. "Future trips will concentrate on camping beyond Sump 2 and making multiple pushes into Sump 3." Hardcore. -- Mixon Always forgive your enemies. Nothing annoys them more. You may "reply" to the address this message came from, but for long-term use, save: Personal: bmi...@alumni.uchicago.edu AMCS: edi...@amcs-pubs.org or sa...@amcs-pubs.org - Visit our website: http://texascavers.com To unsubscribe, e-mail: texascavers-unsubscr...@texascavers.com For additional commands, e-mail: texascavers-h...@texascavers.com
[Texascavers] anthodites
Re that photo of anthodites: Skyline Caverns is the "type locality" of anthodites, the word having first been applied to the formations pictured. Anthodite is sort of a vague term. Some purists (like Donald Davis) apply it only to clusters of snakelike helictites, such as those barely to the left of center in the picture. Others apply the term to the sort of "frostwork," often aragonite, just to the right of center. From the photo, given that it contains the type specimen, either usage would appear to be correct. The lesson may be the futility of trying to define terms for things that in fact have a continuous spectrum of forms in nature (unlike most biological species). For example, with typical pedantry, "Cave Minerals of the World" tries to distinguish gypsum hair, gypsum cotton, gypsum rope, gypsum snow, gypsum needles, gypsum spiders, and gypsum flowers, which are all just variations on selenite's long, thin crystals. --Mixon Always forgive your enemies. Nothing annoys them more. You may "reply" to the address this message came from, but for long-term use, save: Personal: bmi...@alumni.uchicago.edu AMCS: edi...@amcs-pubs.org or sa...@amcs-pubs.org - Visit our website: http://texascavers.com To unsubscribe, e-mail: texascavers-unsubscr...@texascavers.com For additional commands, e-mail: texascavers-h...@texascavers.com
Re: Re: [Texascavers] [Fwd: Hunters being the hunted in Mexico]
You're also allowed to transport your firearms and up to 100 rounds of ammo per gun which must be unloaded and stripped of the magazine during transport, provided you belong to a hunting club, have a hunting license and tags, and a permit from SEDENA (National Defense) Nico On Tue, Nov 24, 2009 at 11:18 AM, wrote: > Note: Some firearms are legal in Mexico.. Like > > > *Title Two of the Federal Law of Firearms allows possession and carrying > of handguns in a calibers of .380 or less, although some calibers are > excluded, most notably .357 magnum and 9mm parabellum.* > > *Members of agricultural collectives and other rural workers are allowed > to carry the aforesaid handguns, .22 rifles, and shotguns, as long as they > stay outside of urban areas, and obtain a license.* > > > > Nov 24, 2009 10:46:11 AM, dlocklea...@gmail.com wrote: > > This is related to the previous post, but has nothing to > do with caving, or Texas. > > > I stopped by one of these lodges about 8 years ago, in > the off season, to see if there were any good deals for > staying over-night. ( I didn't want to stay in a road-side > motel on the way back north to San Fernando. ) > > The lodge was very plain and very expensive. > I didn't see any reason to stay at the one I visited, unless you were a > rich hunter. > > My wife and mother-in-law have a place in Reynosa, which is supposedly one > of the areas the Zeta's control. > > They both will not travel at night in this town. They > seem to think the problem has become worse recently. > > Here is a news story from Matamoros from just last week: > > > http://www.elmananarey.com/diario/noticia/nacional/noticias/balacera:_mueren_militar_y_conductor/555276 > > It says that a military official was shot to death after he stopped a > suspicious vehicle. Soldiers > returned fire shooting the car at least 20 times, with 7 bullets hitting > the driver in the chest. > > Guns are illegal in Mexico. > > > - Visit > our website: http://texascavers.com To unsubscribe, e-mail: > texascavers-unsubscr...@texascavers.com For additional commands, e-mail: > texascavers-h...@texascavers.com >
Re: Re: [Texascavers] [Fwd: Hunters being the hunted in Mexico]
Note: Some firearms are legal in Mexico.. Like Title Two of the Federal Law of Firearms allows possession and carrying of handguns in a calibers of .380 or less, although some calibers are excluded, most notably .357 magnum and 9mm parabellum. Members of agricultural collectives and other rural workers are allowed to carry the aforesaid handguns, .22 rifles, and shotguns, as long as they stay outside of urban areas, and obtain a license.Nov 24, 2009 10:46:11 AM, dlocklea...@gmail.com wrote: This is related to the previous post, but has nothing to do with caving, or Texas. I stopped by one of these lodges about 8 years ago, in the off season, to see if there were any good deals for staying over-night. ( I didn't want to stay in a road-side motel on the way back north to San Fernando. ) The lodge was very plain and very expensive. I didn't see any reason to stay at the one I visited, unless you were a rich hunter. My wife and mother-in-law have a place in Reynosa, which is supposedly one of the areas the Zeta's control. They both will not travel at night in this town. They seem to think the problem has become worse recently. Here is a news story from Matamoros from just last week: http://www.elmananarey.com/diario/noticia/nacional/noticias/balacera:_mueren_militar_y_conductor/555276 It says that a military official was shot to death after he stopped a suspicious vehicle. Soldiers returned fire shooting the car at least 20 times, with 7 bullets hitting the driver in the chest. Guns are illegal in Mexico. - Visit our website: http://texascavers.com To unsubscribe, e-mail: texascavers-unsubscr...@texascavers.com For additional commands, e-mail: texascavers-h...@texascavers.com
Re: [Texascavers] [Fwd: Hunters being the hunted in Mexico]
This is related to the previous post, but has nothing to do with caving, or Texas. I stopped by one of these lodges about 8 years ago, in the off season, to see if there were any good deals for staying over-night. ( I didn't want to stay in a road-side motel on the way back north to San Fernando. ) The lodge was very plain and very expensive. I didn't see any reason to stay at the one I visited, unless you were a rich hunter. My wife and mother-in-law have a place in Reynosa, which is supposedly one of the areas the Zeta's control. They both will not travel at night in this town. They seem to think the problem has become worse recently. Here is a news story from Matamoros from just last week: http://www.elmananarey.com/diario/noticia/nacional/noticias/balacera:_mueren_militar_y_conductor/555276 It says that a military official was shot to death after he stopped a suspicious vehicle. Soldiers returned fire shooting the car at least 20 times, with 7 bullets hitting the driver in the chest. Guns are illegal in Mexico.
[Texascavers] Anthrodites in Skyline Caverns
Earth Science Picture of the Day will be interesting to some of you. ... Sam http://epod.usra.edu/
Re: [Texascavers] [Fwd: Hunters being the hunted in Mexico]
well not having read the article, only the intriguing title - I must say I've always entertained a Gary Larson like picture of doves, javelinas, deer, elk, moose, buffalo, squirrels etc armed with high velocity rifles.
RE: [Texascavers] [Fwd: Hunters being the hunted in Mexico]
A good reason for an old dude not to go caving in Mexico. I know, I know, you cave far from the border and it wouldn't happen to a peaceful caving group. But friends, the times they are a changing and desperate people take desperate actions even at the expense of their on livelihood. Fritz From: Logan McNatt [mailto:lmcn...@austin.rr.com] Sent: Monday, November 23, 2009 11:10 PM To: Texascavers Subject: [Texascavers] [Fwd: Hunters being the hunted in Mexico] Thanks to Peter Keyes for this article from the Houston Chronicle. http://www.chron.com/disp/story.mpl/world/6733362.html - Visit our website: http://texascavers.com To unsubscribe, e-mail: texascavers-unsubscr...@texascavers.com For additional commands, e-mail: texascavers-h...@texascavers.com
Re: [Texascavers] [Fwd: Hunters being the hunted in Mexico]
Odd that it took a month to go public.. or was it being saved for Lou (I'm going back to my home planet) Dobbs? TNov 23, 2009 11:09:45 PM, lmcn...@austin.rr.com wrote: Thanks to Peter Keyes for this article from the Houston Chronicle. http://www.chron.com/disp/story.mpl/world/6733362.html- Visit our website: http://texascavers.com To unsubscribe, e-mail: texascavers-unsubscr...@texascavers.com For additional commands, e-mail: texascavers-h...@texascavers.com - Visit our website: http://texascavers.com To unsubscribe, e-mail: texascavers-unsubscr...@texascavers.com For additional commands, e-mail: texascavers-h...@texascavers.com
