Re: [Texascavers] going to Mexico

2010-12-13 Thread freddie poer
Well said Bill. 

--- On Fri, 12/10/10, Mixon Bill bmixon...@austin.rr.com wrote:


From: Mixon Bill bmixon...@austin.rr.com
Subject: [Texascavers] going to Mexico
To: Cavers Texas texascavers@texascavers.com
List-Post: texascavers@texascavers.com
Date: Friday, December 10, 2010, 7:42 PM


I'm getting downright discouraged by all the negative comments about Mexico and 
all the trips that don't seem to be happening. I'm pretty well plugged into the 
news, although my main and nearly only source is the New York Times, and I can 
think of only one case of a random American tourist getting killed in Mexico 
lately, and that was the guy on a boat near the gulf. A couple of other dead 
Americans worked with a US consulate. Where are all the reports of random 
tourists being ambushed on the highway and robbed, kidnapped, or killed? You 
can be sure that one incident like that would make as much news up here as 
fifty Mexicans killing each other (not that that's a particularly good thing to 
say about the US press).

Remember the rule about never driving in Mexico at night, the insane Mexican 
bus drivers, and the trucks with no lights? We didn't worry then, and the 
busses seem to have been tamed. As long as you don't hang around the border 
towns, I wouldn't be surprised if it's safer to drive now then it was then.

Of course, this is easy for me to say, I guess, because I gave up going to 
Mexico ten years ago for unrelated reasons. -- Mixon

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[Texascavers] rescue in Bulgaria

2010-12-13 Thread Mixon Bill
I know David posted something while this was going on, but I don't  
recall whether a link to the whole story has been posted. An  
interesting solution to rescue from a flooded cave; don't believe I've  
heard such a story before. More common is trying to dam or divert the  
water entering the cave. Anyway, here's a link.-- Mixon

http://www.speleo-bg.com/lang-bg/bfs/25-aso/400-rescue.html

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[Texascavers] Re: rescue in Bulgaria

2010-12-13 Thread dlocklear01
Thanks Bill for posting that.

I can't wait to see the movie of that.

For whatever reason, that article was very Blackberry friendly.  I haven't seen 
any other web-sites upload like that.  It was very easy to read.
Sent on the Sprint® Now Network from my BlackBerry®

RE: [Texascavers] rescue in Bulgaria

2010-12-13 Thread Geary Schindel
Bill,

We were able to lower the water level at Dead Mans Cave in Kendall County 
during the caving accident by removing some rocks at the entrance.  This 
lowered the water level a few inches which was enough to allow the recovery to 
occur without diving.  It only worked because the rocks were controlling the 
level of the water in the cave where Thomas became trapped. So, there are 
occasions when this will work.

Geary



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From: Mixon Bill [mailto:bmixon...@austin.rr.com] 
Sent: Monday, December 13, 2010 10:12 AM
To: Cavers Texas
Subject: [Texascavers] rescue in Bulgaria

I know David posted something while this was going on, but I don't  
recall whether a link to the whole story has been posted. An  
interesting solution to rescue from a flooded cave; don't believe I've  
heard such a story before. More common is trying to dam or divert the  
water entering the cave. Anyway, here's a link.-- Mixon
http://www.speleo-bg.com/lang-bg/bfs/25-aso/400-rescue.html

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[PBSS] PBSS T-shirts and Patches

2010-12-13 Thread Bill Bentley
All,
This is what I have left and will be bringing to the meeting tomorrow night.
T-shirts are the 25th anniversary limited edition and are $20.00 each...
10 Extra Large 
4 Large 
1 Medium

And 52 Patches for sale and they are $4.00 each (cost us $2.44 each)  with 
$1.56 each going to the grotto treasury.
Bring your money.
I will also be taking dues if you want to renew or join..

Thanks,
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[Texascavers] Bexar Grotto Christmas Party!

2010-12-13 Thread Joe Evelynn Mitchell
The Bexar Grotto Christmas Party will be held this Saturday, December 18 at the 
new home of Cindy, Patrice and Sophia at 307 Squires Row. The party will start 
at 6:00pm. Bring a gift for the white elephant exchange, a dish for the pot 
luck dinner and your adult beverage of choice.

If you need directions or have questions, call 210-530-9500.

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[Texascavers] New Zealand cavers to receive funds for deep cave exploraion :

2010-12-13 Thread JerryAtkin
 
Cavers get funds to explore deeper 

NAOMI ARNOLD - The  Nelson Mail  
 


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A group of cavers who discovered the deepest cave in New Zealand has been  
awarded a second Hillary Expedition Grant to explore their discovery 
further.  
The group, led by Waitomo's Kieran McKay, aims to find out if the Ellis 
Basin  system in Kahurangi National Park's Mt Arthur could be one of the 10 
deepest in  New Zealand.  
Earlier this year, a team of three cavers, including Mr McKay, discovered 
New  Zealand's first kilometre-deep cave by making a connection between two 
known  passages in the Ellis Basin cave system.  
The system went from 775m to 1026m with the discovery and is one of the top 
 80 deepest caves in the world.  
It was the same grant that allowed the Extreme Caving Team to explore the  
system in April this year, hailed at the time as the biggest piece of news 
in  the history of New Zealand caving.  
The latest grant will help the team, which includes Nelsonian Jane Furkett, 
 to buy the technical equipment needed to explore deeper.  
Their expedition is scheduled to begin next month and will take two months, 
 with follow-up trips throughout the year.  
Sparc allocates Hillary Expedition Grants every two years, with each one  
ranging from $10,000 to $20,000 out of a total $100,000 fund.  
Other groups to be awarded grants are a New Zealand expedition attempting 
to  be the first in the world to sea kayak the rough waters along the 
Borchgrevink  Coast in Antarctica's Ross Sea, an attempt to make the first 
speedflying descent  off an 8000m peak in Tibet, paddling a waka ama from 
Dunedin to 
Gisborne and  kayaking remote rivers in Papua New Guinea.  
Sparc chief executive Peter Miskimmin said the adventures planned by the  
expedition teams were truly awe-inspiring.  
All New Zealanders are fascinated, and feel proud and inspired by Sir 
Edmund  Hillary's feats. These grants honour that history, Mr Miskimmin said.  
The people on these expeditions will need to be physically and mentally  
tough. They'll need to plan well, yet be ready to deal with the unexpected. 
They  are the high-performance athletes of outdoor recreation and I hope 
that, like  Hillary, these adventurers go on to create their own inspiring 
stories for New  Zealanders.  
Previous expeditions have included crossing the Greenland ice cap, big-wall 
 climbing in Pakistan, making first ascents including of a previously 
unclimbed  tower in the Aisen Province, Chile, and new routes on peaks in 
Antarctica.  
_http://www.stuff.co.nz/nelson-mail/news/4456332/Cavers-get-funds-to-explore
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Re: [Texascavers] Cascade Caverns sump dive report

2010-12-13 Thread Mark Alman
Sounds like a good trip, Charles! I need to get my lazy butt down there.

Would you be interested in writing a trip report, if there are more pix to go 
with it?


Let me know.


Thanks!

Mark    





From: Charles Goldsmith wo...@justfamily.org
To: Cavetex texascavers@texascavers.com; Scott Kyle sk...@cascadecaverns.com
Sent: Sun, December 12, 2010 8:25:09 PM
Subject: [Texascavers] Cascade Caverns sump dive report

A big thanks to all of the help for the tank haul to the sump in Cascade 
Caverns 
on Saturday.  James Brown dove the sump, starting at 10:36am and resurfanced 
approximately 40 minutes later.  James extended the cave by 366 feet until he 
ran out of guideline.  Per his report, Start of Sump dive is the smallest at 6 
feet wide and 2 feet high.  Underwater passage after air bell averages 12 feet 
wide and 6 feet high.   Maximum depth is 31 feet. 


We'll be going back at the end of January or beginning of February to push this 
further.

Thanks go out to the following people:
Tom Sims
Gerry Geletzke
David Serafine
Layne Hedrick
Ian Riddington
Brandon Cook
Andy Zenker
Lyndon Tiu
Peter Druschke

Gerry and Andy also explored Raccoon Ramada cave that is on the property, but 
did not get a survey yet.  We'll be returning to do that as well.  The entrance 
to this is a very tight squeeze and I don't know anyone else that has squeezed 
into it.  I'd be curious if there are any records of this.

Charles



  

Re: [Texascavers] Cascade Caverns sump dive report

2010-12-13 Thread Charles Goldsmith
I'm waiting on just that, pix, I didn't take any, was busy, but others did.
 As soon as I get pics and see what I have to work with, I will write up a
blurb.

On Mon, Dec 13, 2010 at 10:15 PM, Mark Alman texascav...@yahoo.com wrote:

 Sounds like a good trip, Charles! I need to get my lazy butt down there.

 Would you be interested in writing a trip report, if there are more pix to
 go with it?


 Let me know.


 Thanks!
 Mark

  --
 *From:* Charles Goldsmith wo...@justfamily.org
 *To:* Cavetex texascavers@texascavers.com; Scott Kyle 
 sk...@cascadecaverns.com
 *Sent:* Sun, December 12, 2010 8:25:09 PM

 *Subject:* [Texascavers] Cascade Caverns sump dive report

 A big thanks to all of the help for the tank haul to the sump in Cascade
 Caverns on Saturday.  James Brown dove the sump, starting at 10:36am and
 resurfanced approximately 40 minutes later.  James extended the cave by 366
 feet until he ran out of guideline.  Per his report, Start of Sump dive
 is the smallest at 6 feet wide and 2 feet high.  Underwater passage after
 air bell averages 12 feet wide and 6 feet high.   Maximum depth is 31
 feet.

 We'll be going back at the end of January or beginning of February to push
 this further.

 Thanks go out to the following people:
 Tom Sims
 Gerry Geletzke
 David Serafine
 Layne Hedrick
 Ian Riddington
 Brandon Cook
 Andy Zenker
 Lyndon Tiu
 Peter Druschke

 Gerry and Andy also explored Raccoon Ramada cave that is on the property,
 but did not get a survey yet.  We'll be returning to do that as well.  The
 entrance to this is a very tight squeeze and I don't know anyone else that
 has squeezed into it.  I'd be curious if there are any records of this.

 Charles