[Texascavers] fake Petzl gear

2011-02-11 Thread Mixon Bill
I suspect that the safety factor in the strength of real Petzl gear  
over what is really needed for normal use is so great that the fake  
gear is not really dangerous. For example, does it really matter  
whether a Croll opens at 900 pounds or 1350 pounds? You should never  
take a fall on an ascender anyway. Still, of course, if you think  
you're getting Petzl gear, you should get the real thing. Just don't  
get paranoid about relying on somebody's Petzl gear because it might  
be fake. -- Mixon


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Re: [Texascavers] Fake Petzl products and splitting gear

2011-02-11 Thread Rod Goke
Notice how difficult Petzl claims it is to distinguish their real products from 
the dangerous fakes, ... something to think about when you're splitting gear!

Rod

-Original Message-
>From: Fofo 
>Sent: Feb 11, 2011 9:27 AM
>To: texascavers 
>Subject: [Texascavers] Fake Petzl products
>
>¡Hola!
>
>Well, it had to happen at some point: Petzl has detected fake products 
>out there:
>
>http://www.karstworlds.com/2011/02/attention-petzl-warns-for-fake-chinese.html
>
>
>Let's be careful.
>
>  - Fofo
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Re: [Texascavers] OT-fly story

2011-02-11 Thread Rod Goke
Yes, I've seen that fly catching technique. My father, who is now 98, used to 
be good at doing it in his younger days. He used to catch flies in the manner 
you described, but his method of dispatching them was different. Instead of 
clapping, he would throw the fly as hard as he could onto the floor, which 
might not kill the fly, but it usually would stun the fly just long enough for 
him to step on it. I never mastered this fly catching technique myself, but I 
always thought it was impressive to watch. Sometimes it was even more 
entertaining to watch expressions on the faces of bystanders who happened to 
witness the maneuver.

Rod

-Original Message-
>From: Rick Corbell 
>Sent: Feb 10, 2011 8:53 PM
>To: texascavers@texascavers.com
>Subject: [Texascavers] OT-fly story
>
>
>Place:Scurry Old Fields around Snyder in west Texas
>Time: '50's  (1950's)
>Long hours waiting in the "dog house" at tank batteries could get boring.  My 
>dad made a game of catching flies in his hand.  He would sweep his cupped hand 
>an inch or two above the subject and more often than not the fly would fly 
>right into his hand.  A quick squeeze would capture it.  Try it sometime.  If 
>the fly doesn't get caught between your fingers or a fold in your palm, you 
>can feel the buzz when it tries to escape.  Kind of tickles.  A clap would 
>most often dispatch the fly.  Sometimes they get away, sort of like catch and 
>release.
> 
>Rod, et. al. thanks for bringing back the memories.
> 
>This could be cave related if you think about breaking out your lunch while 
>ridge walking and drawing flies with that smashed sandwich.  While waiting on 
>everyone to finish, you now have something to entertain yourself.
>
>Rick Corbell
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[Texascavers] Government Canyon Karst Project

2011-02-11 Thread Marvin & Lisa
The 100th trip of the Government Canyon Karst Project will take place on the
5th and 6th of March. We will meet as usual at 9:00 on both days in the
parking area of the Volunteer/Research Station to organize teams and
objectives. On the evening of the 5th (Saturday) we will have a hog roast,
awards ceremony, and presentation in celebration of the 100th project trip.
The event will take place at the Volunteer/Research Station. All are invited
to come. The hog will be provided courtesy of the Government Canyon Hog
Hunters (feral hog eradication). A vegetarian entre will also be provided.
Please bring a side dish and your own drinks. The meal will begin at 5:30.

 

Many participants will be camping at the volunteer campground nearby so
bring your tent and join in the fun. Then go caving, digging, or
ridgewalking on Sunday. 

 

Directions to the Government Canyon Karst Project:

Find the intersection of U.S. 16 and Loop 1604 in northwest Bexar County
(clearly shown on any state highway map). Drive 2 miles north on U.S. 16 to
the third traffic light and turn left onto FM 1560 (there is a Shell station
on the corner). Follow 1560 for 3 miles till you see the sign for GCSNA.
Follow the arrow to the right and drive 2 more miles to the sharp left turn
in the road. The gate to GCSNA is straight ahead. Enter at the gate and then
take the first right. There is an unlocked gate that will need to be opened
and then closed behind you. Continue to the Volunteer/Research Station,
where we will meet. 

 

Marvin Miller

(210) 415-5190



Re: [Texascavers] Great prices on Petzl Gear!

2011-02-11 Thread Allan B. Cobb
Does your new Petzl gear have the Folgers Coffee label?  You know, the one with 
the motto "Good to the last drop". 

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On Feb 11, 2011, at 1:08 PM, Frank Binney  wrote:

> I was strolling through San Francisco's Chinatown yesterday and stopped at
> the Sum Ting Wong Trading Company and stocked up on new Petzl carabiners and
> ascenders at bargain basement prices. Anybody up for joining me for vertical
> practice next week off one of the big walls in Yosemite?
> Frank
> PS--The store also has great prices of Rolex watches, designer handbags and
> high-protein cat food!
> 
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[Texascavers] Great prices on Petzl Gear!

2011-02-11 Thread Frank Binney
I was strolling through San Francisco's Chinatown yesterday and stopped at
the Sum Ting Wong Trading Company and stocked up on new Petzl carabiners and
ascenders at bargain basement prices. Anybody up for joining me for vertical
practice next week off one of the big walls in Yosemite?
Frank
PS--The store also has great prices of Rolex watches, designer handbags and
high-protein cat food!



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[SWR] Fwd: [Texascavers] Fake Petzl products

2011-02-11 Thread Carol Belski



Begin forwarded message:


From: Fofo 
Date: February 11, 2011 8:27:58 AM MST
To: texascavers 
Subject: [Texascavers] Fake Petzl products

¡Hola!

Well, it had to happen at some point: Petzl has detected fake  
products out there:



http://www.karstworlds.com/2011/02/attention-petzl-warns-for-fake- 
chinese.html




Let's be careful.

 - Fofo

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Re: [Texascavers] Fake Petzl products

2011-02-11 Thread Ed Goff
Awesome! Lead carabiners would be great for cave divers. What could you do with 
a melamine headlamp? Feed it to your cat?

Ed

On Feb 11, 2011, at 9:27 AM, Fofo  wrote:

> ¡Hola!
> 
> Well, it had to happen at some point: Petzl has detected fake products out 
> there:
> 
> http://www.karstworlds.com/2011/02/attention-petzl-warns-for-fake-chinese.html
> 
> 
> Let's be careful.
> 
> - Fofo
> 
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[Texascavers] Fake Petzl products

2011-02-11 Thread Fofo

�Hola!

Well, it had to happen at some point: Petzl has detected fake products 
out there:


http://www.karstworlds.com/2011/02/attention-petzl-warns-for-fake-chinese.html


Let's be careful.

 - Fofo

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[Texascavers] splitting gear

2011-02-11 Thread Andy Gluesenkamp
Some of us were gnoshing on Joe Ivy's IronMan bars long after his demise.  
Since 
they were never really edible in the first place, they didn't seem any worse a 
year or so past their expiration date.  

AGG

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Driftwood, Texas 78619
(512) 799-1095
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From: Gill Edigar 
To: tbsam...@verizon.net
Cc: jpbrook...@sbcglobal.net; texascavers@texascavers.com
Sent: Thu, February 10, 2011 11:05:47 PM
Subject: Re: Re: [Texascavers] Sanctum


On Thu, Feb 10, 2011 at 9:52 AM,  wrote:

Mercy killings?  Did they split up his gear?

Yeah, Ted, that's the kick in the ass: They didn't split up the dudes gear--or 
even their lamps and batteries or Clif Bars.
--Ediger 

Re: Re: Re: [Texascavers] Sanctum

2011-02-11 Thread tbsamsel

A passel of Hollywood wussies.Feb 10, 2011 11:05:47 PM, gi...@att.net wrote:

On Thu, Feb 10, 2011 at 9:52 AM,  wrote:


Mercy killings?  Did they split up his gear?

Yeah, Ted, that's the kick in the ass: They didn't split up the dudes gear--or even their lamps and batteries or Clif Bars.
--Ediger 

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