[Texascavers] Re: Dacron Rope

[Mark Minton]

Dacron is polyester.  There are polyester ropes, such as 
that made by 
Sterling:    It is fine 
for caving.  I don't know why it is not called Dacron.  That's 
probably someone's specific trade name, and any other company or 
slightly different formulation is called something else.


Mark

At 06:00 PM 6/6/2011, Don Cooper wrote:


But speaking of the history of caving rope -
I saw the transition of nylon parachute lines (550 cord) to dacron 
and later to kevlar.  Dacron is still.
Dacron has some fine qualities - viscous damping for instance.  Not 
"stretchy" but not completely static either.

Any ideas why (it seems that) it was never used for climbing or caving?

-WaV


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[Texascavers] Re: Dacron Rope

[Mark Minton]

Dacron is polyester.  There are polyester ropes, such as 
that made by 
Sterling:    It is fine 
for caving.  I don't know why it is not called Dacron.  That's 
probably someone's specific trade name, and any other company or 
slightly different formulation is called something else.


Mark

At 06:00 PM 6/6/2011, Don Cooper wrote:


But speaking of the history of caving rope -
I saw the transition of nylon parachute lines (550 cord) to dacron 
and later to kevlar.  Dacron is still.
Dacron has some fine qualities - viscous damping for instance.  Not 
"stretchy" but not completely static either.

Any ideas why (it seems that) it was never used for climbing or caving?

-WaV


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[Texascavers] Re: Dacron Rope

[Mark Minton]

Dacron is polyester.  There are polyester ropes, such as 
that made by 
Sterling:    It is fine 
for caving.  I don't know why it is not called Dacron.  That's 
probably someone's specific trade name, and any other company or 
slightly different formulation is called something else.


Mark

At 06:00 PM 6/6/2011, Don Cooper wrote:


But speaking of the history of caving rope -
I saw the transition of nylon parachute lines (550 cord) to dacron 
and later to kevlar.  Dacron is still.
Dacron has some fine qualities - viscous damping for instance.  Not 
"stretchy" but not completely static either.

Any ideas why (it seems that) it was never used for climbing or caving?

-WaV


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Re: [Texascavers] Re: Polypropylene rope and caving history

[Alex Sproul]

>I'm surprised no one had mentioned it before.

So was I!  Becky Jones is on the list; I'd have thought she'd pipe 
up.  I did ask the PMI folks about the larger caving rope -- which 
they had dubbed "PIT Glow."  It was discontinued in 2006 due to 
poor sales (i.e., too expensive).

Good to hear from ya, Logan!

Alex

Re: [Texascavers] Re: Polypropylene rope and caving history

[Alex Sproul]

>I'm surprised no one had mentioned it before.

So was I!  Becky Jones is on the list; I'd have thought she'd pipe 
up.  I did ask the PMI folks about the larger caving rope -- which 
they had dubbed "PIT Glow."  It was discontinued in 2006 due to 
poor sales (i.e., too expensive).

Good to hear from ya, Logan!

Alex

Re: [Texascavers] Re: Polypropylene rope and caving history

[Alex Sproul]

>I'm surprised no one had mentioned it before.

So was I!  Becky Jones is on the list; I'd have thought she'd pipe 
up.  I did ask the PMI folks about the larger caving rope -- which 
they had dubbed "PIT Glow."  It was discontinued in 2006 due to 
poor sales (i.e., too expensive).

Good to hear from ya, Logan!

Alex

Re: [Texascavers] Re: Polypropylene rope and caving history

[Logan McNatt]

Alex, thanks for the info.  I'm surprised no one had mentioned it before.

Logan (LowGun)

On 6/6/2011 10:34 AM, Alex Sproul wrote:

I offer for your perusal these phosphorescent caving and rescue products from 
Pigeon Mountain Industries:

PMI Lumi-Line _http://tinyurl.com/4y2k658_

PMI NiteLine _http://tinyurl.com/3rylfml_

They used to also make 11mm and 13.5mm static nylon caving ropes of 100% phosphorescent yarn that was quite bright.  I still have a sample 
piece that gives me a start when I encounter it in the dark.  These products apparently priced themselves out of the market.


The 3mm NiteLine, though expensive, remains quite popular for tent guylines in 
close quarters like OTR...

Alex

Re: [Texascavers] Re: Polypropylene rope and caving history

[Logan McNatt]

Alex, thanks for the info.  I'm surprised no one had mentioned it before.

Logan (LowGun)

On 6/6/2011 10:34 AM, Alex Sproul wrote:

I offer for your perusal these phosphorescent caving and rescue products from 
Pigeon Mountain Industries:

PMI Lumi-Line _http://tinyurl.com/4y2k658_

PMI NiteLine _http://tinyurl.com/3rylfml_

They used to also make 11mm and 13.5mm static nylon caving ropes of 100% phosphorescent yarn that was quite bright.  I still have a sample 
piece that gives me a start when I encounter it in the dark.  These products apparently priced themselves out of the market.


The 3mm NiteLine, though expensive, remains quite popular for tent guylines in 
close quarters like OTR...

Alex

Re: [Texascavers] Re: Polypropylene rope and caving history

[Logan McNatt]

Alex, thanks for the info.  I'm surprised no one had mentioned it before.

Logan (LowGun)

On 6/6/2011 10:34 AM, Alex Sproul wrote:

I offer for your perusal these phosphorescent caving and rescue products from 
Pigeon Mountain Industries:

PMI Lumi-Line _http://tinyurl.com/4y2k658_

PMI NiteLine _http://tinyurl.com/3rylfml_

They used to also make 11mm and 13.5mm static nylon caving ropes of 100% phosphorescent yarn that was quite bright.  I still have a sample 
piece that gives me a start when I encounter it in the dark.  These products apparently priced themselves out of the market.


The 3mm NiteLine, though expensive, remains quite popular for tent guylines in 
close quarters like OTR...

Alex

Re: [Texascavers] Re: Polypropylene rope and caving history

[Don Cooper]

Diana - I'm not of the opinion that it's enough light to do damage. :-)

But speaking of the history of caving rope -
I saw the transition of nylon parachute lines (550 cord) to dacron and later
to kevlar.  Dacron is still.
Dacron has some fine qualities - viscous damping for instance.  Not
"stretchy" but not completely static either.
Any ideas why (it seems that) it was never used for climbing or caving?

-WaV

On Mon, Jun 6, 2011 at 11:33 AM, Diana Tomchick <
diana.tomch...@utsouthwestern.edu> wrote:

> > PMI Lumi-Line  http://tinyurl.com/4y2k658
> >
> > PMI NiteLine  http://tinyurl.com/3rylfml
> >
> > They used to also make 11mm and 13.5mm static nylon caving ropes of 100%
> phosphorescent yarn that was quite bright.  I still have a sample piece that
> gives me a start when I encounter it in the dark.  These products apparently
> priced themselves out of the market.
>
> Besides, who wants to expose their nylon caving ropes to "extended exposure
> to a light source" just so it will glow for 7 hours? Not good for the rope.
>
> Diana
>
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> Department of Biochemistry
> 5323 Harry Hines Blvd.
> Rm. ND10.214B
> Dallas, TX 75390-8816, U.S.A.
> Email: diana.tomch...@utsouthwestern.edu
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Re: [Texascavers] Re: Polypropylene rope and caving history

[Don Cooper]

Diana - I'm not of the opinion that it's enough light to do damage. :-)

But speaking of the history of caving rope -
I saw the transition of nylon parachute lines (550 cord) to dacron and later
to kevlar.  Dacron is still.
Dacron has some fine qualities - viscous damping for instance.  Not
"stretchy" but not completely static either.
Any ideas why (it seems that) it was never used for climbing or caving?

-WaV

On Mon, Jun 6, 2011 at 11:33 AM, Diana Tomchick <
diana.tomch...@utsouthwestern.edu> wrote:

> > PMI Lumi-Line  http://tinyurl.com/4y2k658
> >
> > PMI NiteLine  http://tinyurl.com/3rylfml
> >
> > They used to also make 11mm and 13.5mm static nylon caving ropes of 100%
> phosphorescent yarn that was quite bright.  I still have a sample piece that
> gives me a start when I encounter it in the dark.  These products apparently
> priced themselves out of the market.
>
> Besides, who wants to expose their nylon caving ropes to "extended exposure
> to a light source" just so it will glow for 7 hours? Not good for the rope.
>
> Diana
>
> * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *
> Diana R. Tomchick
> Associate Professor
> University of Texas Southwestern Medical Center
> Department of Biochemistry
> 5323 Harry Hines Blvd.
> Rm. ND10.214B
> Dallas, TX 75390-8816, U.S.A.
> Email: diana.tomch...@utsouthwestern.edu
> 214-645-6383 (phone)
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Re: [Texascavers] Re: Polypropylene rope and caving history

[Don Cooper]

Diana - I'm not of the opinion that it's enough light to do damage. :-)

But speaking of the history of caving rope -
I saw the transition of nylon parachute lines (550 cord) to dacron and later
to kevlar.  Dacron is still.
Dacron has some fine qualities - viscous damping for instance.  Not
"stretchy" but not completely static either.
Any ideas why (it seems that) it was never used for climbing or caving?

-WaV

On Mon, Jun 6, 2011 at 11:33 AM, Diana Tomchick <
diana.tomch...@utsouthwestern.edu> wrote:

> > PMI Lumi-Line  http://tinyurl.com/4y2k658
> >
> > PMI NiteLine  http://tinyurl.com/3rylfml
> >
> > They used to also make 11mm and 13.5mm static nylon caving ropes of 100%
> phosphorescent yarn that was quite bright.  I still have a sample piece that
> gives me a start when I encounter it in the dark.  These products apparently
> priced themselves out of the market.
>
> Besides, who wants to expose their nylon caving ropes to "extended exposure
> to a light source" just so it will glow for 7 hours? Not good for the rope.
>
> Diana
>
> * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *
> Diana R. Tomchick
> Associate Professor
> University of Texas Southwestern Medical Center
> Department of Biochemistry
> 5323 Harry Hines Blvd.
> Rm. ND10.214B
> Dallas, TX 75390-8816, U.S.A.
> Email: diana.tomch...@utsouthwestern.edu
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[SWR] Fort Stanton Planning

[Stephen Fleming]

For those commenting on the Fort Stanton plan,  there's a few things of 
which you should be aware. If you already have submitted your comments, 
you may want to review and possibly amend them in light of the following:


Things to consider from a planning/NEPA perspective
Even though the draft plan has neatly parsed various actions and 
activities into separate alternatives, these actions/activities do not 
have to stay with a particular alternative.  The agency looks at and 
evaluates a reasonable range of alternatives and then can select (much 
like making selections from a Chinese menu) activities and actions from 
any alternative and combine them into a final plan for the area. In fact 
activities do not have to be spelled out specifically, the plan can 
include them as long as they are within the range of activities 
considered in the NEPA document.  An example might be sites for a new 
campground. If the draft plan considers 5 sites in one alternative, 10 
in another alternative, and 25 in another alternative; the final plan 
could have any number from 5-25. Therefore, if there is a particular 
action or activity you feel is incompatible with the intent of the 
designation or contrary to conservation of the environment, say so. _Do 
not rely on the fact it is not in the preferred alternative_.
When making comments, remember, you do not get a vote. You need to make 
substantive comments regarding concerns and objections. Have and state 
reasons for comments both good and bad that will cause a reconsideration 
of the proposal and sway agency opinion one way or another. Simply 
saying you don't like something is not helpful and will not get the 
attention you think is warranted.


Part of the reason these things are in the public venue is that agencies 
don't necessarily have a lock on articulating all or even the best 
avenues. They can, and do, overlook things or make bad proposals.


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[SWR] Fort Stanton Planning

[Stephen Fleming]

For those commenting on the Fort Stanton plan,  there's a few things of 
which you should be aware. If you already have submitted your comments, 
you may want to review and possibly amend them in light of the following:


Things to consider from a planning/NEPA perspective
Even though the draft plan has neatly parsed various actions and 
activities into separate alternatives, these actions/activities do not 
have to stay with a particular alternative.  The agency looks at and 
evaluates a reasonable range of alternatives and then can select (much 
like making selections from a Chinese menu) activities and actions from 
any alternative and combine them into a final plan for the area. In fact 
activities do not have to be spelled out specifically, the plan can 
include them as long as they are within the range of activities 
considered in the NEPA document.  An example might be sites for a new 
campground. If the draft plan considers 5 sites in one alternative, 10 
in another alternative, and 25 in another alternative; the final plan 
could have any number from 5-25. Therefore, if there is a particular 
action or activity you feel is incompatible with the intent of the 
designation or contrary to conservation of the environment, say so. _Do 
not rely on the fact it is not in the preferred alternative_.
When making comments, remember, you do not get a vote. You need to make 
substantive comments regarding concerns and objections. Have and state 
reasons for comments both good and bad that will cause a reconsideration 
of the proposal and sway agency opinion one way or another. Simply 
saying you don't like something is not helpful and will not get the 
attention you think is warranted.


Part of the reason these things are in the public venue is that agencies 
don't necessarily have a lock on articulating all or even the best 
avenues. They can, and do, overlook things or make bad proposals.


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outcome of this process.
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[SWR] Fort Stanton Planning

[Stephen Fleming]

For those commenting on the Fort Stanton plan,  there's a few things of 
which you should be aware. If you already have submitted your comments, 
you may want to review and possibly amend them in light of the following:


Things to consider from a planning/NEPA perspective
Even though the draft plan has neatly parsed various actions and 
activities into separate alternatives, these actions/activities do not 
have to stay with a particular alternative.  The agency looks at and 
evaluates a reasonable range of alternatives and then can select (much 
like making selections from a Chinese menu) activities and actions from 
any alternative and combine them into a final plan for the area. In fact 
activities do not have to be spelled out specifically, the plan can 
include them as long as they are within the range of activities 
considered in the NEPA document.  An example might be sites for a new 
campground. If the draft plan considers 5 sites in one alternative, 10 
in another alternative, and 25 in another alternative; the final plan 
could have any number from 5-25. Therefore, if there is a particular 
action or activity you feel is incompatible with the intent of the 
designation or contrary to conservation of the environment, say so. _Do 
not rely on the fact it is not in the preferred alternative_.
When making comments, remember, you do not get a vote. You need to make 
substantive comments regarding concerns and objections. Have and state 
reasons for comments both good and bad that will cause a reconsideration 
of the proposal and sway agency opinion one way or another. Simply 
saying you don't like something is not helpful and will not get the 
attention you think is warranted.


Part of the reason these things are in the public venue is that agencies 
don't necessarily have a lock on articulating all or even the best 
avenues. They can, and do, overlook things or make bad proposals.


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Re: [Texascavers] Re: Polypropylene rope and caving history

[Diana Tomchick]

> PMI Lumi-Line  http://tinyurl.com/4y2k658
>
> PMI NiteLine  http://tinyurl.com/3rylfml
>
> They used to also make 11mm and 13.5mm static nylon caving ropes of 100% 
> phosphorescent yarn that was quite bright.  I still have a sample piece that 
> gives me a start when I encounter it in the dark.  These products apparently 
> priced themselves out of the market.

Besides, who wants to expose their nylon caving ropes to "extended exposure to 
a light source" just so it will glow for 7 hours? Not good for the rope.

Diana

* * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *
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Associate Professor
University of Texas Southwestern Medical Center
Department of Biochemistry
5323 Harry Hines Blvd.
Rm. ND10.214B
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Re: [Texascavers] Re: Polypropylene rope and caving history

[Diana Tomchick]

> PMI Lumi-Line  http://tinyurl.com/4y2k658
>
> PMI NiteLine  http://tinyurl.com/3rylfml
>
> They used to also make 11mm and 13.5mm static nylon caving ropes of 100% 
> phosphorescent yarn that was quite bright.  I still have a sample piece that 
> gives me a start when I encounter it in the dark.  These products apparently 
> priced themselves out of the market.

Besides, who wants to expose their nylon caving ropes to "extended exposure to 
a light source" just so it will glow for 7 hours? Not good for the rope.

Diana

* * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *
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Associate Professor
University of Texas Southwestern Medical Center
Department of Biochemistry
5323 Harry Hines Blvd.
Rm. ND10.214B
Dallas, TX 75390-8816, U.S.A.
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Re: [Texascavers] Re: Polypropylene rope and caving history

[Diana Tomchick]

> PMI Lumi-Line  http://tinyurl.com/4y2k658
>
> PMI NiteLine  http://tinyurl.com/3rylfml
>
> They used to also make 11mm and 13.5mm static nylon caving ropes of 100% 
> phosphorescent yarn that was quite bright.  I still have a sample piece that 
> gives me a start when I encounter it in the dark.  These products apparently 
> priced themselves out of the market.

Besides, who wants to expose their nylon caving ropes to "extended exposure to 
a light source" just so it will glow for 7 hours? Not good for the rope.

Diana

* * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *
Diana R. Tomchick
Associate Professor
University of Texas Southwestern Medical Center
Department of Biochemistry
5323 Harry Hines Blvd.
Rm. ND10.214B
Dallas, TX 75390-8816, U.S.A.
Email: diana.tomch...@utsouthwestern.edu
214-645-6383 (phone)
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[Texascavers] Re: Polypropylene rope and caving history

[Alex Sproul]

LowGun wrote:
>Some of you probably have seen this before, but I had not until a
>Memorial Day visit to Harbor Freight Tools.
>"This 100% polypropylene rope includes fluorescent material that 
>can be charged with either natural or artificial light and will then
>glow for up to 5 hours when placed in the dark.

I offer for your perusal these phosphorescent caving and rescue 
products from Pigeon Mountain Industries:

PMI Lumi-Line  http://tinyurl.com/4y2k658

PMI NiteLine  http://tinyurl.com/3rylfml

They used to also make 11mm and 13.5mm static nylon caving 
ropes of 100% phosphorescent yarn that was quite bright.  I still 
have a sample piece that gives me a start when I encounter it in 
the dark.  These products apparently priced themselves out of the 
market.

The 3mm NiteLine, though expensive, remains quite popular for 
tent guylines in close quarters like OTR...

Alex

[Texascavers] Re: Polypropylene rope and caving history

[Alex Sproul]

LowGun wrote:
>Some of you probably have seen this before, but I had not until a
>Memorial Day visit to Harbor Freight Tools.
>"This 100% polypropylene rope includes fluorescent material that 
>can be charged with either natural or artificial light and will then
>glow for up to 5 hours when placed in the dark.

I offer for your perusal these phosphorescent caving and rescue 
products from Pigeon Mountain Industries:

PMI Lumi-Line  http://tinyurl.com/4y2k658

PMI NiteLine  http://tinyurl.com/3rylfml

They used to also make 11mm and 13.5mm static nylon caving 
ropes of 100% phosphorescent yarn that was quite bright.  I still 
have a sample piece that gives me a start when I encounter it in 
the dark.  These products apparently priced themselves out of the 
market.

The 3mm NiteLine, though expensive, remains quite popular for 
tent guylines in close quarters like OTR...

Alex

[Texascavers] Re: Polypropylene rope and caving history

[Alex Sproul]

LowGun wrote:
>Some of you probably have seen this before, but I had not until a
>Memorial Day visit to Harbor Freight Tools.
>"This 100% polypropylene rope includes fluorescent material that 
>can be charged with either natural or artificial light and will then
>glow for up to 5 hours when placed in the dark.

I offer for your perusal these phosphorescent caving and rescue 
products from Pigeon Mountain Industries:

PMI Lumi-Line  http://tinyurl.com/4y2k658

PMI NiteLine  http://tinyurl.com/3rylfml

They used to also make 11mm and 13.5mm static nylon caving 
ropes of 100% phosphorescent yarn that was quite bright.  I still 
have a sample piece that gives me a start when I encounter it in 
the dark.  These products apparently priced themselves out of the 
market.

The 3mm NiteLine, though expensive, remains quite popular for 
tent guylines in close quarters like OTR...

Alex

[PBSS] Rock Haul November 5th

[Bill Bentley]

Folks our November Rock Haul has been cancelled.

Thanks,
Bill


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Sent: Wednesday, June 01, 2011 2:00 PM
Subject: Rock Haul November 5th




Hi Bill,

I hope that you are doing well. Unfortunately, we are going to have to
postpone your Rubble Haul scheduled for November 5th. We have a schedule
conflict and Jason Walz, our Cave Technician is leaving the Park to take a
job with the Guadalupe District of the Lincoln National Forest. Now that
Paul Burger and Jason have left our office it is just Dale and I. Please
keep in touch and when we hire a new Cave Technician, you could work with
them on rescheduling a Rubble Haul.

Thanks for all of your help in Rubble Hauls,

Stan



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[PBSS] Rock Haul November 5th

[Bill Bentley]

Folks our November Rock Haul has been cancelled.

Thanks,
Bill


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From: 

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Sent: Wednesday, June 01, 2011 2:00 PM
Subject: Rock Haul November 5th




Hi Bill,

I hope that you are doing well. Unfortunately, we are going to have to
postpone your Rubble Haul scheduled for November 5th. We have a schedule
conflict and Jason Walz, our Cave Technician is leaving the Park to take a
job with the Guadalupe District of the Lincoln National Forest. Now that
Paul Burger and Jason have left our office it is just Dale and I. Please
keep in touch and when we hire a new Cave Technician, you could work with
them on rescheduling a Rubble Haul.

Thanks for all of your help in Rubble Hauls,

Stan



Stan Allison, Cave Technician
Carlsbad Caverns National Park
3225 National Parks Highway
Carlsbad, NM  88220
575-785-3105
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[PBSS] Rock Haul November 5th

[Bill Bentley]

Folks our November Rock Haul has been cancelled.

Thanks,
Bill


- Original Message - 
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To: "Bill Bentley" 
Sent: Wednesday, June 01, 2011 2:00 PM
Subject: Rock Haul November 5th




Hi Bill,

I hope that you are doing well. Unfortunately, we are going to have to
postpone your Rubble Haul scheduled for November 5th. We have a schedule
conflict and Jason Walz, our Cave Technician is leaving the Park to take a
job with the Guadalupe District of the Lincoln National Forest. Now that
Paul Burger and Jason have left our office it is just Dale and I. Please
keep in touch and when we hire a new Cave Technician, you could work with
them on rescheduling a Rubble Haul.

Thanks for all of your help in Rubble Hauls,

Stan



Stan Allison, Cave Technician
Carlsbad Caverns National Park
3225 National Parks Highway
Carlsbad, NM  88220
575-785-3105
stan_alli...@nps.gov






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