[Texascavers] TSS work session
Cavers, The next scheduled second Wednesday work session of the Texas Speleological Survey will be on February 8 in two days at the JJ Pickle Research Center. Use the front entrance on Burnet Road north of highway 183. Both publication sales and the library will be open. The door will be open at 5:00 p.m. and stay open till we adjourn. Remember it is best to arrive before 6:00 pm. Come by and help out and search the files for your favorite caves. If you have a desire to see the files and unpublished maps, come by and take a look. If you have questions, please contact me at ronra...@austin.rr.com or the office manager, Jim Kennedy. I will be happy to send you a link to the campus map. Ron Ralph Cell: 797-3817
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[Texascavers] Conn Update Please pass this on.
Conn Update Please pass this on. I talked with Jan Conn for some time this morning. She sounded upbeat, humorous, and herself. There is lots to do adjusting to life without Herb, and she has local friends helping. Thanks to all the cavers who have offered condolences. She appreciates you all, but please hold the cards and letters. Dwight Deal
[Texascavers] Lost Oasis cricket count
Cavers, The TCMA will be performing a cricket emergence count at the Lost Oasis Cave Preserve in south Austin on Wednesday 29 February. This is an excellent opportunity for a couple of interested volunteers to come out with us and learn what is involved with this biological monitoring technique. The Preserve Manager really only needs two people to participate in the training. First responses to Ron Ralph at ronra...@austin.rr.com get on the list. Others are welcome to just show up and observe if they wish. Ron will send the address and a map to participants who need such. Todd Bayless, the Natural Resources Specialist for Travis County (their karst guy) will be doing the training. There may also be a discussion on red imported fire ant surveys and treatments. Meeting time at the preserve is 5:30 pm. For more details, contact Ron. Jim Kennedy TCMA Preserves Chairman
Re: [Texascavers] Lost Oasis cricket count
February 29th? Counting crickets on the night of this Leap Year should be interesting! On 2/6/2012 10:05 AM, Jim Kennedy wrote: Cavers, The TCMA will be performing a cricket emergence count at the Lost Oasis Cave Preserve in south Austin on Wednesday 29 February. This is an excellent opportunity for a couple of interested volunteers to come out with us and learn what is involved with this biological monitoring technique. The Preserve Manager really only needs two people to participate in the training. First responses to Ron Ralph at ronra...@austin.rr.com mailto:ronra...@austin.rr.com get on the list. Others are welcome to just show up and observe if they wish. Ron will send the address and a map to participants who need such. Todd Bayless, the Natural Resources Specialist for Travis County (their karst guy) will be doing the training. There may also be a discussion on red imported fire ant surveys and treatments. Meeting time at the preserve is 5:30 pm. For more details, contact Ron. Jim Kennedy TCMA Preserves Chairman
[Texascavers] TSA Convention Map Salon
Announcing the 2012 TSA Cave Map Salon Cave cartographers, I hope you are working hard on finishing that map for the convention because it's just around the corner. I'll be organizing the salon again this year. Below are the basic rules as listed on the TSA web page. On the map salon page you can also find a link to the judging criteria. I encourage you to take a look at it to ensure that you have all the necessary elements on your map. Maps will be displayed at the Geneva School, where Saturday presentations will take place. Bring your maps there by 10:00 Saturday morning or get them to me before that if you can't make it Saturday morning. As past winners can attest, it's not that hard to win and awards are bountiful. 1) All maps submitted must be of Texas caves, or drafted by Texas cavers. Texas cavers are those whose primary residence has been Texas at some time during the previous year. Cartographers can enter as many maps as they want. Maps need not be of the entire cave (i.e. detail maps of cave sections are eligible). Caves need not be completely surveyed for a map of the cave to be eligible. 2) All maps must have been made in the past year (since the last Convention). Significant modifications or additions made to older maps in that time may also be submitted. 3) Maps that have won past awards at either the TSA or NSS Conventions are not eligible for entry. 4) Final categories depend on the number of entries, but should include: * Caves under 100 m * Caves over 100 m * First-time Cartographer. The first-time cartographer category is to encourage beginning cartographers, and is aimed at those whom have never entered a map salon before. It is not for skilled cartographers who just never took the time to enter before this. Maps may not be entered in multiple categories. 5) Judging will be objective (based on mandatory elements of good cave maps, and drafting quality) and subjective (quality points awarded for innovative representations, balance and layout, visual impact, etc.). Completed score sheets with comments will be given to the entrants at the end of the Convention. 6) Prizes will be determined by the number of entrants and categories. There is no fee to enter maps, and the maps remain the property of the entrant. However, the editors of The TEXAS CAVER will probably want to publish the winning maps in upcoming issues. 7) Ribbons are awarded for First, Second, and Third place maps, as well as Honorable Mention. All ribbons do not have to be awarded in each category if the number of submissions is low and the scoring does not suggest awards. The highest-scored map will also be awarded Best of Show, in addition to the prize in its individual category. Thank you, Marvin Miller
Re: [Texascavers] NSS voting
I think it is a great money saving idea and the volunteer run NSS needs all of the money saving help it can get. Here in KY approximately 95 % of the cavers have 'puters. (based on only 2 out of 40 KY Speleo Survey members not having email). Therefore, Texas must have at least 98% of the cavers using email. The non-puter folks can use the library or friends. There is no excuse not to read the platforms. Who knows maybe the % that vote will increase. Cavingly, Preston === - Original Message - From: Mixon Bill bmixon...@austin.rr.com To: Cavers Texas texascavers@texascavers.com Sent: Sunday, February 05, 2012 9:17 PM Subject: [Texascavers] NSS voting Great idea to permit Internet voting, but it is unconscionable not to provide paper platforms and ballots to an NSS member who doesn't have an e-mail address or chooses not to (or has neglected to) tell the NSS what it is. Sending him a postcard telling him to go to a friend's house to use his computer is not a substitute. The NSS would still save 90 percent of the cost. I'm sure the response rate will increase considerably, but so will the number of people who vote without bothering to read the platforms. Can't have it all. -- Mixon Never play leapfrog with a unicorn. You may reply to the address this message came from, but for long-term use, save: Personal: bmi...@alumni.uchicago.edu AMCS: edi...@amcs-pubs.org or sa...@amcs-pubs.org - Visit our website: http://texascavers.com To unsubscribe, e-mail: texascavers-unsubscr...@texascavers.com For additional commands, e-mail: texascavers-h...@texascavers.com - Visit our website: http://texascavers.com To unsubscribe, e-mail: texascavers-unsubscr...@texascavers.com For additional commands, e-mail: texascavers-h...@texascavers.com
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[Texascavers] Conn Update Please pass this on.
Conn Update Please pass this on. I talked with Jan Conn for some time this morning. She sounded upbeat, humorous, and herself. There is lots to do adjusting to life without Herb, and she has local friends helping. Thanks to all the cavers who have offered condolences. She appreciates you all, but please hold the cards and letters. Dwight Deal
[Texascavers] Lost Oasis cricket count
Cavers, The TCMA will be performing a cricket emergence count at the Lost Oasis Cave Preserve in south Austin on Wednesday 29 February. This is an excellent opportunity for a couple of interested volunteers to come out with us and learn what is involved with this biological monitoring technique. The Preserve Manager really only needs two people to participate in the training. First responses to Ron Ralph at ronra...@austin.rr.com get on the list. Others are welcome to just show up and observe if they wish. Ron will send the address and a map to participants who need such. Todd Bayless, the Natural Resources Specialist for Travis County (their karst guy) will be doing the training. There may also be a discussion on red imported fire ant surveys and treatments. Meeting time at the preserve is 5:30 pm. For more details, contact Ron. Jim Kennedy TCMA Preserves Chairman
Re: [Texascavers] Lost Oasis cricket count
February 29th? Counting crickets on the night of this Leap Year should be interesting! On 2/6/2012 10:05 AM, Jim Kennedy wrote: Cavers, The TCMA will be performing a cricket emergence count at the Lost Oasis Cave Preserve in south Austin on Wednesday 29 February. This is an excellent opportunity for a couple of interested volunteers to come out with us and learn what is involved with this biological monitoring technique. The Preserve Manager really only needs two people to participate in the training. First responses to Ron Ralph at ronra...@austin.rr.com mailto:ronra...@austin.rr.com get on the list. Others are welcome to just show up and observe if they wish. Ron will send the address and a map to participants who need such. Todd Bayless, the Natural Resources Specialist for Travis County (their karst guy) will be doing the training. There may also be a discussion on red imported fire ant surveys and treatments. Meeting time at the preserve is 5:30 pm. For more details, contact Ron. Jim Kennedy TCMA Preserves Chairman
[Texascavers] TSA Convention Map Salon
Announcing the 2012 TSA Cave Map Salon Cave cartographers, I hope you are working hard on finishing that map for the convention because it's just around the corner. I'll be organizing the salon again this year. Below are the basic rules as listed on the TSA web page. On the map salon page you can also find a link to the judging criteria. I encourage you to take a look at it to ensure that you have all the necessary elements on your map. Maps will be displayed at the Geneva School, where Saturday presentations will take place. Bring your maps there by 10:00 Saturday morning or get them to me before that if you can't make it Saturday morning. As past winners can attest, it's not that hard to win and awards are bountiful. 1) All maps submitted must be of Texas caves, or drafted by Texas cavers. Texas cavers are those whose primary residence has been Texas at some time during the previous year. Cartographers can enter as many maps as they want. Maps need not be of the entire cave (i.e. detail maps of cave sections are eligible). Caves need not be completely surveyed for a map of the cave to be eligible. 2) All maps must have been made in the past year (since the last Convention). Significant modifications or additions made to older maps in that time may also be submitted. 3) Maps that have won past awards at either the TSA or NSS Conventions are not eligible for entry. 4) Final categories depend on the number of entries, but should include: * Caves under 100 m * Caves over 100 m * First-time Cartographer. The first-time cartographer category is to encourage beginning cartographers, and is aimed at those whom have never entered a map salon before. It is not for skilled cartographers who just never took the time to enter before this. Maps may not be entered in multiple categories. 5) Judging will be objective (based on mandatory elements of good cave maps, and drafting quality) and subjective (quality points awarded for innovative representations, balance and layout, visual impact, etc.). Completed score sheets with comments will be given to the entrants at the end of the Convention. 6) Prizes will be determined by the number of entrants and categories. There is no fee to enter maps, and the maps remain the property of the entrant. However, the editors of The TEXAS CAVER will probably want to publish the winning maps in upcoming issues. 7) Ribbons are awarded for First, Second, and Third place maps, as well as Honorable Mention. All ribbons do not have to be awarded in each category if the number of submissions is low and the scoring does not suggest awards. The highest-scored map will also be awarded Best of Show, in addition to the prize in its individual category. Thank you, Marvin Miller
Re: [Texascavers] NSS voting
I think it is a great money saving idea and the volunteer run NSS needs all of the money saving help it can get. Here in KY approximately 95 % of the cavers have 'puters. (based on only 2 out of 40 KY Speleo Survey members not having email). Therefore, Texas must have at least 98% of the cavers using email. The non-puter folks can use the library or friends. There is no excuse not to read the platforms. Who knows maybe the % that vote will increase. Cavingly, Preston === - Original Message - From: Mixon Bill bmixon...@austin.rr.com To: Cavers Texas texascavers@texascavers.com Sent: Sunday, February 05, 2012 9:17 PM Subject: [Texascavers] NSS voting Great idea to permit Internet voting, but it is unconscionable not to provide paper platforms and ballots to an NSS member who doesn't have an e-mail address or chooses not to (or has neglected to) tell the NSS what it is. Sending him a postcard telling him to go to a friend's house to use his computer is not a substitute. The NSS would still save 90 percent of the cost. I'm sure the response rate will increase considerably, but so will the number of people who vote without bothering to read the platforms. Can't have it all. -- Mixon Never play leapfrog with a unicorn. You may reply to the address this message came from, but for long-term use, save: Personal: bmi...@alumni.uchicago.edu AMCS: edi...@amcs-pubs.org or sa...@amcs-pubs.org - Visit our website: http://texascavers.com To unsubscribe, e-mail: texascavers-unsubscr...@texascavers.com For additional commands, e-mail: texascavers-h...@texascavers.com - Visit our website: http://texascavers.com To unsubscribe, e-mail: texascavers-unsubscr...@texascavers.com For additional commands, e-mail: texascavers-h...@texascavers.com
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[Texascavers] TSS work session
Cavers, The next scheduled second Wednesday work session of the Texas Speleological Survey will be on February 8 in two days at the JJ Pickle Research Center. Use the front entrance on Burnet Road north of highway 183. Both publication sales and the library will be open. The door will be open at 5:00 p.m. and stay open till we adjourn. Remember it is best to arrive before 6:00 pm. Come by and help out and search the files for your favorite caves. If you have a desire to see the files and unpublished maps, come by and take a look. If you have questions, please contact me at ronra...@austin.rr.com or the office manager, Jim Kennedy. I will be happy to send you a link to the campus map. Ron Ralph Cell: 797-3817
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[Texascavers] Conn Update Please pass this on.
Conn Update Please pass this on. I talked with Jan Conn for some time this morning. She sounded upbeat, humorous, and herself. There is lots to do adjusting to life without Herb, and she has local friends helping. Thanks to all the cavers who have offered condolences. She appreciates you all, but please hold the cards and letters. Dwight Deal
[Texascavers] Lost Oasis cricket count
Cavers, The TCMA will be performing a cricket emergence count at the Lost Oasis Cave Preserve in south Austin on Wednesday 29 February. This is an excellent opportunity for a couple of interested volunteers to come out with us and learn what is involved with this biological monitoring technique. The Preserve Manager really only needs two people to participate in the training. First responses to Ron Ralph at ronra...@austin.rr.com get on the list. Others are welcome to just show up and observe if they wish. Ron will send the address and a map to participants who need such. Todd Bayless, the Natural Resources Specialist for Travis County (their karst guy) will be doing the training. There may also be a discussion on red imported fire ant surveys and treatments. Meeting time at the preserve is 5:30 pm. For more details, contact Ron. Jim Kennedy TCMA Preserves Chairman
Re: [Texascavers] Lost Oasis cricket count
February 29th? Counting crickets on the night of this Leap Year should be interesting! On 2/6/2012 10:05 AM, Jim Kennedy wrote: Cavers, The TCMA will be performing a cricket emergence count at the Lost Oasis Cave Preserve in south Austin on Wednesday 29 February. This is an excellent opportunity for a couple of interested volunteers to come out with us and learn what is involved with this biological monitoring technique. The Preserve Manager really only needs two people to participate in the training. First responses to Ron Ralph at ronra...@austin.rr.com mailto:ronra...@austin.rr.com get on the list. Others are welcome to just show up and observe if they wish. Ron will send the address and a map to participants who need such. Todd Bayless, the Natural Resources Specialist for Travis County (their karst guy) will be doing the training. There may also be a discussion on red imported fire ant surveys and treatments. Meeting time at the preserve is 5:30 pm. For more details, contact Ron. Jim Kennedy TCMA Preserves Chairman
[Texascavers] TSA Convention Map Salon
Announcing the 2012 TSA Cave Map Salon Cave cartographers, I hope you are working hard on finishing that map for the convention because it's just around the corner. I'll be organizing the salon again this year. Below are the basic rules as listed on the TSA web page. On the map salon page you can also find a link to the judging criteria. I encourage you to take a look at it to ensure that you have all the necessary elements on your map. Maps will be displayed at the Geneva School, where Saturday presentations will take place. Bring your maps there by 10:00 Saturday morning or get them to me before that if you can't make it Saturday morning. As past winners can attest, it's not that hard to win and awards are bountiful. 1) All maps submitted must be of Texas caves, or drafted by Texas cavers. Texas cavers are those whose primary residence has been Texas at some time during the previous year. Cartographers can enter as many maps as they want. Maps need not be of the entire cave (i.e. detail maps of cave sections are eligible). Caves need not be completely surveyed for a map of the cave to be eligible. 2) All maps must have been made in the past year (since the last Convention). Significant modifications or additions made to older maps in that time may also be submitted. 3) Maps that have won past awards at either the TSA or NSS Conventions are not eligible for entry. 4) Final categories depend on the number of entries, but should include: * Caves under 100 m * Caves over 100 m * First-time Cartographer. The first-time cartographer category is to encourage beginning cartographers, and is aimed at those whom have never entered a map salon before. It is not for skilled cartographers who just never took the time to enter before this. Maps may not be entered in multiple categories. 5) Judging will be objective (based on mandatory elements of good cave maps, and drafting quality) and subjective (quality points awarded for innovative representations, balance and layout, visual impact, etc.). Completed score sheets with comments will be given to the entrants at the end of the Convention. 6) Prizes will be determined by the number of entrants and categories. There is no fee to enter maps, and the maps remain the property of the entrant. However, the editors of The TEXAS CAVER will probably want to publish the winning maps in upcoming issues. 7) Ribbons are awarded for First, Second, and Third place maps, as well as Honorable Mention. All ribbons do not have to be awarded in each category if the number of submissions is low and the scoring does not suggest awards. The highest-scored map will also be awarded Best of Show, in addition to the prize in its individual category. Thank you, Marvin Miller
Re: [Texascavers] NSS voting
I think it is a great money saving idea and the volunteer run NSS needs all of the money saving help it can get. Here in KY approximately 95 % of the cavers have 'puters. (based on only 2 out of 40 KY Speleo Survey members not having email). Therefore, Texas must have at least 98% of the cavers using email. The non-puter folks can use the library or friends. There is no excuse not to read the platforms. Who knows maybe the % that vote will increase. Cavingly, Preston === - Original Message - From: Mixon Bill bmixon...@austin.rr.com To: Cavers Texas texascavers@texascavers.com Sent: Sunday, February 05, 2012 9:17 PM Subject: [Texascavers] NSS voting Great idea to permit Internet voting, but it is unconscionable not to provide paper platforms and ballots to an NSS member who doesn't have an e-mail address or chooses not to (or has neglected to) tell the NSS what it is. Sending him a postcard telling him to go to a friend's house to use his computer is not a substitute. The NSS would still save 90 percent of the cost. I'm sure the response rate will increase considerably, but so will the number of people who vote without bothering to read the platforms. Can't have it all. -- Mixon Never play leapfrog with a unicorn. You may reply to the address this message came from, but for long-term use, save: Personal: bmi...@alumni.uchicago.edu AMCS: edi...@amcs-pubs.org or sa...@amcs-pubs.org - Visit our website: http://texascavers.com To unsubscribe, e-mail: texascavers-unsubscr...@texascavers.com For additional commands, e-mail: texascavers-h...@texascavers.com - Visit our website: http://texascavers.com To unsubscribe, e-mail: texascavers-unsubscr...@texascavers.com For additional commands, e-mail: texascavers-h...@texascavers.com
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