[Texascavers] This is for Bill Mixon

2012-03-05 Thread Espeleo Coahuila
Hi Bill, how are you?

I have a friend to want to know if you has books of  Bulletin
10.
 *Caves of the Golondrinas Area* (2002).  and how is the cost, if you has,
could you send to Linda´s House, I will go to San Antonio soon to visit the
doctor, and then I can bring with me.

Tell me please the cost and the cost of you send.

Thank you

Moni

-- 
LCC. Monica Grissel Ponce Gonzalez
Asociacion Coahuilense de Espeleologia, A.C. (fundadora)
Assoziatione Italiana Geografiche Explorazioni La Venta  (socia)
Grupo Espeleologico Vaxakmen, A.C. (socia)
Association for Mexican Cave Studies (colaboradora)
Texas Speleological Association (Socia)
Union Mexicana de Agrupaciones Espeleologicas (Socia)
045-844-1478311 cel.
monicaponce1 by skype.


[Texascavers] This is for Bill Mixon

2012-03-05 Thread Espeleo Coahuila
Hi Bill, how are you?

I have a friend to want to know if you has books of  Bulletin
10.
 *Caves of the Golondrinas Area* (2002).  and how is the cost, if you has,
could you send to Linda´s House, I will go to San Antonio soon to visit the
doctor, and then I can bring with me.

Tell me please the cost and the cost of you send.

Thank you

Moni

-- 
LCC. Monica Grissel Ponce Gonzalez
Asociacion Coahuilense de Espeleologia, A.C. (fundadora)
Assoziatione Italiana Geografiche Explorazioni La Venta  (socia)
Grupo Espeleologico Vaxakmen, A.C. (socia)
Association for Mexican Cave Studies (colaboradora)
Texas Speleological Association (Socia)
Union Mexicana de Agrupaciones Espeleologicas (Socia)
045-844-1478311 cel.
monicaponce1 by skype.


[Texascavers] This is for Bill Mixon

2012-03-05 Thread Espeleo Coahuila
Hi Bill, how are you?

I have a friend to want to know if you has books of  Bulletin
10.
 *Caves of the Golondrinas Area* (2002).  and how is the cost, if you has,
could you send to Linda´s House, I will go to San Antonio soon to visit the
doctor, and then I can bring with me.

Tell me please the cost and the cost of you send.

Thank you

Moni

-- 
LCC. Monica Grissel Ponce Gonzalez
Asociacion Coahuilense de Espeleologia, A.C. (fundadora)
Assoziatione Italiana Geografiche Explorazioni La Venta  (socia)
Grupo Espeleologico Vaxakmen, A.C. (socia)
Association for Mexican Cave Studies (colaboradora)
Texas Speleological Association (Socia)
Union Mexicana de Agrupaciones Espeleologicas (Socia)
045-844-1478311 cel.
monicaponce1 by skype.


[Texascavers] [TSA Photo Salon Call For Entries][Again!]

2012-03-05 Thread Don Arburn
I've seen some fantastic photos, taken by cavers in this past year, the 
competition WILL be fierce. If you think you can do better, come prove it!!

Deadline for entries into Map & Photo Salon at Geneva School of Boerne is 10 
a.m. Saturday, March 31st

Winners will be announced during the evening festivities at Cascade Caverns on 
March 31st, 2012

TSA Photo Salon Rules

Download Salon Entry Form (PDF)

Categories
1.  Print (black & white, color)
2.  Digital (black & white, color) 

Entry requirements
Each photographer is limited to 2 entries.
Prints must measure at least 8 x 10 inches, but not larger than 20 x 24 inches. 
All entries must be mounted, but not framed. They may be matted at the 
discretion of the entrant. The prints title should appear either on the matte 
or on the mount directly below the print. The photographer must not be 
identified on the front of the matte or mount. (Note that if you plan to enter 
the same print in the NSS Print Salon, they require the title on the left and 
the photographers name on the right, or on a separate card measuring at least 2 
x 3 but no larger than 3 x 4, so you may want to put the title on the left and 
leave room to add the photographers name later for the NSS salon.) Lettering 
should not exceed 0.25 inch in height. The photographers name and the entry 
number (assigned by the entrant see entry form) must be written on or attached 
to the back of the mount.
Digital files may be submitted in .JPG or .TIF format.  Be sure to include the 
entry number of each photo in its filename, and reference the filenames on your 
entry form.

You can bring your files to convention on CD-ROM or a USB flash drive (no 
floppies).  All entries must be received at the photo salon location by 10 a.m. 
on the Saturday of convention.  If you cannot bring your digital entries to the 
convention, e-mail the TSA Vice-Chair to make other arrangements. Because of 
file-size limitations, please do not send any entries by e-mail.

NOTE: If you are entering in the print category, please also bring digital 
copies of your photos if at all possible, on CD-ROM or USB flash drive.  We 
will be showing a digital slide show of photo salon entries during the awards 
presentation before the auction.
A completed entry form must accompany all entries. (The entry form will be 
available for download soon on the TSA website.
Entries must be delivered to the photo salon location by 10 a.m. on the 
Saturday of convention. If you are unable to bring your photos to convention, 
please e-mail the TSA Vice-Chair to make arrangements to mail them.
Include a prepaid return mailer if you want your photos returned or pick up 
your entries before you leave the convention on Sunday.

Judging and prizes
Prize for Best of Show in each category, plus ribbons, awarded by a panel of 
judges. Prize for Peoples Choice in each category, by popular vote. We'll try 
to scan the slides and put together a looping digitally-projected slideshow so 
everyone can see all the slide entries.

There are a lot of people out there taking pictures in caves, and we hope to 
see an increase in entries for this year's photo salon. We've tried to make the 
rules as simple and easy as possible. Don't be afraid to enter. Almost 
everybody has at least one really good shot. Please take the time to let us see 
yours!

Don Arburn
President Texas Speleological Association
donarb...@mac.com





[Texascavers] [TSA Photo Salon Call For Entries][Again!]

2012-03-05 Thread Don Arburn
I've seen some fantastic photos, taken by cavers in this past year, the 
competition WILL be fierce. If you think you can do better, come prove it!!

Deadline for entries into Map & Photo Salon at Geneva School of Boerne is 10 
a.m. Saturday, March 31st

Winners will be announced during the evening festivities at Cascade Caverns on 
March 31st, 2012

TSA Photo Salon Rules

Download Salon Entry Form (PDF)

Categories
1.  Print (black & white, color)
2.  Digital (black & white, color) 

Entry requirements
Each photographer is limited to 2 entries.
Prints must measure at least 8 x 10 inches, but not larger than 20 x 24 inches. 
All entries must be mounted, but not framed. They may be matted at the 
discretion of the entrant. The prints title should appear either on the matte 
or on the mount directly below the print. The photographer must not be 
identified on the front of the matte or mount. (Note that if you plan to enter 
the same print in the NSS Print Salon, they require the title on the left and 
the photographers name on the right, or on a separate card measuring at least 2 
x 3 but no larger than 3 x 4, so you may want to put the title on the left and 
leave room to add the photographers name later for the NSS salon.) Lettering 
should not exceed 0.25 inch in height. The photographers name and the entry 
number (assigned by the entrant see entry form) must be written on or attached 
to the back of the mount.
Digital files may be submitted in .JPG or .TIF format.  Be sure to include the 
entry number of each photo in its filename, and reference the filenames on your 
entry form.

You can bring your files to convention on CD-ROM or a USB flash drive (no 
floppies).  All entries must be received at the photo salon location by 10 a.m. 
on the Saturday of convention.  If you cannot bring your digital entries to the 
convention, e-mail the TSA Vice-Chair to make other arrangements. Because of 
file-size limitations, please do not send any entries by e-mail.

NOTE: If you are entering in the print category, please also bring digital 
copies of your photos if at all possible, on CD-ROM or USB flash drive.  We 
will be showing a digital slide show of photo salon entries during the awards 
presentation before the auction.
A completed entry form must accompany all entries. (The entry form will be 
available for download soon on the TSA website.
Entries must be delivered to the photo salon location by 10 a.m. on the 
Saturday of convention. If you are unable to bring your photos to convention, 
please e-mail the TSA Vice-Chair to make arrangements to mail them.
Include a prepaid return mailer if you want your photos returned or pick up 
your entries before you leave the convention on Sunday.

Judging and prizes
Prize for Best of Show in each category, plus ribbons, awarded by a panel of 
judges. Prize for Peoples Choice in each category, by popular vote. We'll try 
to scan the slides and put together a looping digitally-projected slideshow so 
everyone can see all the slide entries.

There are a lot of people out there taking pictures in caves, and we hope to 
see an increase in entries for this year's photo salon. We've tried to make the 
rules as simple and easy as possible. Don't be afraid to enter. Almost 
everybody has at least one really good shot. Please take the time to let us see 
yours!

Don Arburn
President Texas Speleological Association
donarb...@mac.com





[Texascavers] [TSA Photo Salon Call For Entries][Again!]

2012-03-05 Thread Don Arburn
I've seen some fantastic photos, taken by cavers in this past year, the 
competition WILL be fierce. If you think you can do better, come prove it!!

Deadline for entries into Map & Photo Salon at Geneva School of Boerne is 10 
a.m. Saturday, March 31st

Winners will be announced during the evening festivities at Cascade Caverns on 
March 31st, 2012

TSA Photo Salon Rules

Download Salon Entry Form (PDF)

Categories
1.  Print (black & white, color)
2.  Digital (black & white, color) 

Entry requirements
Each photographer is limited to 2 entries.
Prints must measure at least 8 x 10 inches, but not larger than 20 x 24 inches. 
All entries must be mounted, but not framed. They may be matted at the 
discretion of the entrant. The prints title should appear either on the matte 
or on the mount directly below the print. The photographer must not be 
identified on the front of the matte or mount. (Note that if you plan to enter 
the same print in the NSS Print Salon, they require the title on the left and 
the photographers name on the right, or on a separate card measuring at least 2 
x 3 but no larger than 3 x 4, so you may want to put the title on the left and 
leave room to add the photographers name later for the NSS salon.) Lettering 
should not exceed 0.25 inch in height. The photographers name and the entry 
number (assigned by the entrant see entry form) must be written on or attached 
to the back of the mount.
Digital files may be submitted in .JPG or .TIF format.  Be sure to include the 
entry number of each photo in its filename, and reference the filenames on your 
entry form.

You can bring your files to convention on CD-ROM or a USB flash drive (no 
floppies).  All entries must be received at the photo salon location by 10 a.m. 
on the Saturday of convention.  If you cannot bring your digital entries to the 
convention, e-mail the TSA Vice-Chair to make other arrangements. Because of 
file-size limitations, please do not send any entries by e-mail.

NOTE: If you are entering in the print category, please also bring digital 
copies of your photos if at all possible, on CD-ROM or USB flash drive.  We 
will be showing a digital slide show of photo salon entries during the awards 
presentation before the auction.
A completed entry form must accompany all entries. (The entry form will be 
available for download soon on the TSA website.
Entries must be delivered to the photo salon location by 10 a.m. on the 
Saturday of convention. If you are unable to bring your photos to convention, 
please e-mail the TSA Vice-Chair to make arrangements to mail them.
Include a prepaid return mailer if you want your photos returned or pick up 
your entries before you leave the convention on Sunday.

Judging and prizes
Prize for Best of Show in each category, plus ribbons, awarded by a panel of 
judges. Prize for Peoples Choice in each category, by popular vote. We'll try 
to scan the slides and put together a looping digitally-projected slideshow so 
everyone can see all the slide entries.

There are a lot of people out there taking pictures in caves, and we hope to 
see an increase in entries for this year's photo salon. We've tried to make the 
rules as simple and easy as possible. Don't be afraid to enter. Almost 
everybody has at least one really good shot. Please take the time to let us see 
yours!

Don Arburn
President Texas Speleological Association
donarb...@mac.com





[Texascavers] [TSA Spring Business Meeting, Saturday, March 31st]

2012-03-05 Thread Don Arburn
The TSA Business meeting will be held at 5 p.m. -or- directly following the 
last presentation at Geneva School of Boerne, 113 Cascade Caverns Rd, Fair Oaks 
Ranch, TX 78015

Offer your input, insight, and thoughts to the umbrella organization that 
covers and supports all facets of caving in Texas. Come see what your TSA does, 
has done, and what we plan on doing!

http://www.cavetexas.org/events/TSASC/tsasc2012.html

https://docs.google.com/open?id=0BzP7GaKdftjDY0NhYUxVYTJTNnlQNzFXZGE0azM4QQ


Don Arburn
President Texas Speleological Association
donarb...@mac.com





[Texascavers] [TSA Spring Business Meeting, Saturday, March 31st]

2012-03-05 Thread Don Arburn
The TSA Business meeting will be held at 5 p.m. -or- directly following the 
last presentation at Geneva School of Boerne, 113 Cascade Caverns Rd, Fair Oaks 
Ranch, TX 78015

Offer your input, insight, and thoughts to the umbrella organization that 
covers and supports all facets of caving in Texas. Come see what your TSA does, 
has done, and what we plan on doing!

http://www.cavetexas.org/events/TSASC/tsasc2012.html

https://docs.google.com/open?id=0BzP7GaKdftjDY0NhYUxVYTJTNnlQNzFXZGE0azM4QQ


Don Arburn
President Texas Speleological Association
donarb...@mac.com





[Texascavers] [TSA Spring Business Meeting, Saturday, March 31st]

2012-03-05 Thread Don Arburn
The TSA Business meeting will be held at 5 p.m. -or- directly following the 
last presentation at Geneva School of Boerne, 113 Cascade Caverns Rd, Fair Oaks 
Ranch, TX 78015

Offer your input, insight, and thoughts to the umbrella organization that 
covers and supports all facets of caving in Texas. Come see what your TSA does, 
has done, and what we plan on doing!

http://www.cavetexas.org/events/TSASC/tsasc2012.html

https://docs.google.com/open?id=0BzP7GaKdftjDY0NhYUxVYTJTNnlQNzFXZGE0azM4QQ


Don Arburn
President Texas Speleological Association
donarb...@mac.com





texascavers Digest 6 Mar 2012 00:05:33 -0000 Issue 1510

2012-03-05 Thread texascavers-digest-help

texascavers Digest 6 Mar 2012 00:05:33 - Issue 1510

Topics (messages 19667 through 19675):

Re: nice article on recent exploration in  Phantom Springs Cave
19667 by: Ron Ralph
19668 by: Butch Fralia

Special Election Update
19669 by: Saj Zappitello

O-9 Well trip report - March 03, 2012
19670 by: David Ochel

UT Grotto Meeting - Wed March 7
19671 by: Gary Franklin

Green car technology for off-road underground transport :
19672 by: JerryAtkin.aol.com

TSA Spring Convention is almost here! March 30-April 1st, Boerne, TX
19673 by: ellie watson

International Exploration Session at 2012 NSS Convention
19674 by: Mark Minton

Re: CRF March Barstow Speaker Series
19675 by: germanyj.aol.com

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And while we are nit-picking, it is not the Texas Speleological Society but
rather the TEXAS SPELEOLOGICAL SURVEY. There is no Texas Speleological
Society to my knowledge.

Ron Ralph, President
TSS

-Original Message-
From: Mark Minton [mailto:mmin...@caver.net] 
Sent: Sunday, March 04, 2012 9:56 AM
To: texascavers@texascavers.com; bfra...@maverickgrotto.org
Subject: Re: [Texascavers] nice article on recent exploration in Phantom
Springs Cave

 Agreed.  Nice that the cave moved up in the long and deep 
cave lists, although they must have been using an out-of-date deep 
list, since at the old depth of 24 m it would have been nowhere near 
65th, but rather less than 126th, the limit of the list at 
. 
Or maybe they meant 165th...  The new depth of 72 m also puts them at 
21st, not 14th as they claim.  At least they got the length ranking right.

Mark

At 09:28 AM 3/4/2012, caverarch wrote:
>Fine article, indeed!
>
>Roger G. Moore
>
>-Original Message-
>From: Jim Kennedy 
>To: CaveTex ; Allan Cobb 
>; Andy Gluesenkamp ; Ann 
>Scott ; Bill Russell 
>; Butch Fralia ; Carl Kunath 
>; David McKenzie 
>; James Reddell 
>; Jerry Atkinson 
>; Kevin Stafford ; Logan 
>McNatt (work) ; Marvin Miller 
>; Peter Sprouse ; 
>Ron Ralph 
>Sent: Sun, Mar 4, 2012 8:18 am
>Subject: [Texascavers] nice article on recent exploration in Phantom 
>Springs Cave
>
>Courtesy of Tom Iliffe.  See the next-to-last paragraph for updated 
>long and deep stats.
>http://www.admfoundation.org/projects/phantom/phantomcave.html
>
>-- Jim

Please reply to mmin...@caver.net
Permanent email address is mmin...@illinoisalumni.org 


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Good catch Ron.

I double checked the depth in the database to see if I'd messed up the depth
on the website.  It's indeed 24m.

The last updates on the cave, I derived from Bill Tucker's Survey notes
plotted in Walls after instruction from David McKenzie on dive surveys in
Walls.

Butch Fralia


-Original Message-
From: Ron Ralph [mailto:ronra...@austin.rr.com] 
Sent: Sunday, March 04, 2012 10:05 AM
To: 'Mark Minton'; texascavers@texascavers.com; bfra...@maverickgrotto.org
Subject: RE: [Texascavers] nice article on recent exploration in Phantom
Springs Cave

And while we are nit-picking, it is not the Texas Speleological Society but
rather the TEXAS SPELEOLOGICAL SURVEY. There is no Texas Speleological
Society to my knowledge.

Ron Ralph, President
TSS

-Original Message-
From: Mark Minton [mailto:mmin...@caver.net] 
Sent: Sunday, March 04, 2012 9:56 AM
To: texascavers@texascavers.com; bfra...@maverickgrotto.org
Subject: Re: [Texascavers] nice article on recent exploration in Phantom
Springs Cave

 Agreed.  Nice that the cave moved up in the long and deep 
cave lists, although they must have been using an out-of-date deep 
list, since at the old depth of 24 m it would have been nowhere near 
65th, but rather less than 126th, the limit of the list at 
. 
Or maybe they meant 165th...  The new depth of 72 m also puts them at 
21st, not 14th as they claim.  At least they got the length ranking right.

Mark

At 09:28 AM 3/4/2012, caverarch wrote:
>Fine article, indeed!
>
>Roger G. Moore
>
>-Original Message-
>From: Jim Kennedy 
>To: CaveTex ; Allan Cobb 
>; Andy Gluesenkamp ; Ann 
>Scott ; Bill Russell 
>; Butch Fralia ; Carl Kunath 
>; David McKenzie 
>; James Reddell 
>; Jerry Atkinson 
>; Kevin Stafford ; Logan 
>McNatt (work) ; Marvin Miller 
>; Peter Sprouse ; 
>Ron Ralph 
>Sent: Sun, Mar 4, 2012 8:18 am
>Subject: [Texascavers] nice article on re

texascavers Digest 6 Mar 2012 00:05:33 -0000 Issue 1510

2012-03-05 Thread texascavers-digest-help

texascavers Digest 6 Mar 2012 00:05:33 - Issue 1510

Topics (messages 19667 through 19675):

Re: nice article on recent exploration in  Phantom Springs Cave
19667 by: Ron Ralph
19668 by: Butch Fralia

Special Election Update
19669 by: Saj Zappitello

O-9 Well trip report - March 03, 2012
19670 by: David Ochel

UT Grotto Meeting - Wed March 7
19671 by: Gary Franklin

Green car technology for off-road underground transport :
19672 by: JerryAtkin.aol.com

TSA Spring Convention is almost here! March 30-April 1st, Boerne, TX
19673 by: ellie watson

International Exploration Session at 2012 NSS Convention
19674 by: Mark Minton

Re: CRF March Barstow Speaker Series
19675 by: germanyj.aol.com

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--- Begin Message ---
And while we are nit-picking, it is not the Texas Speleological Society but
rather the TEXAS SPELEOLOGICAL SURVEY. There is no Texas Speleological
Society to my knowledge.

Ron Ralph, President
TSS

-Original Message-
From: Mark Minton [mailto:mmin...@caver.net] 
Sent: Sunday, March 04, 2012 9:56 AM
To: texascavers@texascavers.com; bfra...@maverickgrotto.org
Subject: Re: [Texascavers] nice article on recent exploration in Phantom
Springs Cave

 Agreed.  Nice that the cave moved up in the long and deep 
cave lists, although they must have been using an out-of-date deep 
list, since at the old depth of 24 m it would have been nowhere near 
65th, but rather less than 126th, the limit of the list at 
. 
Or maybe they meant 165th...  The new depth of 72 m also puts them at 
21st, not 14th as they claim.  At least they got the length ranking right.

Mark

At 09:28 AM 3/4/2012, caverarch wrote:
>Fine article, indeed!
>
>Roger G. Moore
>
>-Original Message-
>From: Jim Kennedy 
>To: CaveTex ; Allan Cobb 
>; Andy Gluesenkamp ; Ann 
>Scott ; Bill Russell 
>; Butch Fralia ; Carl Kunath 
>; David McKenzie 
>; James Reddell 
>; Jerry Atkinson 
>; Kevin Stafford ; Logan 
>McNatt (work) ; Marvin Miller 
>; Peter Sprouse ; 
>Ron Ralph 
>Sent: Sun, Mar 4, 2012 8:18 am
>Subject: [Texascavers] nice article on recent exploration in Phantom 
>Springs Cave
>
>Courtesy of Tom Iliffe.  See the next-to-last paragraph for updated 
>long and deep stats.
>http://www.admfoundation.org/projects/phantom/phantomcave.html
>
>-- Jim

Please reply to mmin...@caver.net
Permanent email address is mmin...@illinoisalumni.org 


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Good catch Ron.

I double checked the depth in the database to see if I'd messed up the depth
on the website.  It's indeed 24m.

The last updates on the cave, I derived from Bill Tucker's Survey notes
plotted in Walls after instruction from David McKenzie on dive surveys in
Walls.

Butch Fralia


-Original Message-
From: Ron Ralph [mailto:ronra...@austin.rr.com] 
Sent: Sunday, March 04, 2012 10:05 AM
To: 'Mark Minton'; texascavers@texascavers.com; bfra...@maverickgrotto.org
Subject: RE: [Texascavers] nice article on recent exploration in Phantom
Springs Cave

And while we are nit-picking, it is not the Texas Speleological Society but
rather the TEXAS SPELEOLOGICAL SURVEY. There is no Texas Speleological
Society to my knowledge.

Ron Ralph, President
TSS

-Original Message-
From: Mark Minton [mailto:mmin...@caver.net] 
Sent: Sunday, March 04, 2012 9:56 AM
To: texascavers@texascavers.com; bfra...@maverickgrotto.org
Subject: Re: [Texascavers] nice article on recent exploration in Phantom
Springs Cave

 Agreed.  Nice that the cave moved up in the long and deep 
cave lists, although they must have been using an out-of-date deep 
list, since at the old depth of 24 m it would have been nowhere near 
65th, but rather less than 126th, the limit of the list at 
. 
Or maybe they meant 165th...  The new depth of 72 m also puts them at 
21st, not 14th as they claim.  At least they got the length ranking right.

Mark

At 09:28 AM 3/4/2012, caverarch wrote:
>Fine article, indeed!
>
>Roger G. Moore
>
>-Original Message-
>From: Jim Kennedy 
>To: CaveTex ; Allan Cobb 
>; Andy Gluesenkamp ; Ann 
>Scott ; Bill Russell 
>; Butch Fralia ; Carl Kunath 
>; David McKenzie 
>; James Reddell 
>; Jerry Atkinson 
>; Kevin Stafford ; Logan 
>McNatt (work) ; Marvin Miller 
>; Peter Sprouse ; 
>Ron Ralph 
>Sent: Sun, Mar 4, 2012 8:18 am
>Subject: [Texascavers] nice article on re

texascavers Digest 6 Mar 2012 00:05:33 -0000 Issue 1510

2012-03-05 Thread texascavers-digest-help

texascavers Digest 6 Mar 2012 00:05:33 - Issue 1510

Topics (messages 19667 through 19675):

Re: nice article on recent exploration in  Phantom Springs Cave
19667 by: Ron Ralph
19668 by: Butch Fralia

Special Election Update
19669 by: Saj Zappitello

O-9 Well trip report - March 03, 2012
19670 by: David Ochel

UT Grotto Meeting - Wed March 7
19671 by: Gary Franklin

Green car technology for off-road underground transport :
19672 by: JerryAtkin.aol.com

TSA Spring Convention is almost here! March 30-April 1st, Boerne, TX
19673 by: ellie watson

International Exploration Session at 2012 NSS Convention
19674 by: Mark Minton

Re: CRF March Barstow Speaker Series
19675 by: germanyj.aol.com

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--- Begin Message ---
And while we are nit-picking, it is not the Texas Speleological Society but
rather the TEXAS SPELEOLOGICAL SURVEY. There is no Texas Speleological
Society to my knowledge.

Ron Ralph, President
TSS

-Original Message-
From: Mark Minton [mailto:mmin...@caver.net] 
Sent: Sunday, March 04, 2012 9:56 AM
To: texascavers@texascavers.com; bfra...@maverickgrotto.org
Subject: Re: [Texascavers] nice article on recent exploration in Phantom
Springs Cave

 Agreed.  Nice that the cave moved up in the long and deep 
cave lists, although they must have been using an out-of-date deep 
list, since at the old depth of 24 m it would have been nowhere near 
65th, but rather less than 126th, the limit of the list at 
. 
Or maybe they meant 165th...  The new depth of 72 m also puts them at 
21st, not 14th as they claim.  At least they got the length ranking right.

Mark

At 09:28 AM 3/4/2012, caverarch wrote:
>Fine article, indeed!
>
>Roger G. Moore
>
>-Original Message-
>From: Jim Kennedy 
>To: CaveTex ; Allan Cobb 
>; Andy Gluesenkamp ; Ann 
>Scott ; Bill Russell 
>; Butch Fralia ; Carl Kunath 
>; David McKenzie 
>; James Reddell 
>; Jerry Atkinson 
>; Kevin Stafford ; Logan 
>McNatt (work) ; Marvin Miller 
>; Peter Sprouse ; 
>Ron Ralph 
>Sent: Sun, Mar 4, 2012 8:18 am
>Subject: [Texascavers] nice article on recent exploration in Phantom 
>Springs Cave
>
>Courtesy of Tom Iliffe.  See the next-to-last paragraph for updated 
>long and deep stats.
>http://www.admfoundation.org/projects/phantom/phantomcave.html
>
>-- Jim

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Good catch Ron.

I double checked the depth in the database to see if I'd messed up the depth
on the website.  It's indeed 24m.

The last updates on the cave, I derived from Bill Tucker's Survey notes
plotted in Walls after instruction from David McKenzie on dive surveys in
Walls.

Butch Fralia


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From: Ron Ralph [mailto:ronra...@austin.rr.com] 
Sent: Sunday, March 04, 2012 10:05 AM
To: 'Mark Minton'; texascavers@texascavers.com; bfra...@maverickgrotto.org
Subject: RE: [Texascavers] nice article on recent exploration in Phantom
Springs Cave

And while we are nit-picking, it is not the Texas Speleological Society but
rather the TEXAS SPELEOLOGICAL SURVEY. There is no Texas Speleological
Society to my knowledge.

Ron Ralph, President
TSS

-Original Message-
From: Mark Minton [mailto:mmin...@caver.net] 
Sent: Sunday, March 04, 2012 9:56 AM
To: texascavers@texascavers.com; bfra...@maverickgrotto.org
Subject: Re: [Texascavers] nice article on recent exploration in Phantom
Springs Cave

 Agreed.  Nice that the cave moved up in the long and deep 
cave lists, although they must have been using an out-of-date deep 
list, since at the old depth of 24 m it would have been nowhere near 
65th, but rather less than 126th, the limit of the list at 
. 
Or maybe they meant 165th...  The new depth of 72 m also puts them at 
21st, not 14th as they claim.  At least they got the length ranking right.

Mark

At 09:28 AM 3/4/2012, caverarch wrote:
>Fine article, indeed!
>
>Roger G. Moore
>
>-Original Message-
>From: Jim Kennedy 
>To: CaveTex ; Allan Cobb 
>; Andy Gluesenkamp ; Ann 
>Scott ; Bill Russell 
>; Butch Fralia ; Carl Kunath 
>; David McKenzie 
>; James Reddell 
>; Jerry Atkinson 
>; Kevin Stafford ; Logan 
>McNatt (work) ; Marvin Miller 
>; Peter Sprouse ; 
>Ron Ralph 
>Sent: Sun, Mar 4, 2012 8:18 am
>Subject: [Texascavers] nice article on re

[Texascavers] Fwd: CRF March Barstow Speaker Series

2012-03-05 Thread germanyj

 This might be of interest to many on this list.

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Event Details
Thursday, March 22, 2012

8:00-8:30am Check-In & Breakfast Served
8:30-10:00am Presentation
at the 
Four Seasons Hotel Austin
98 San Jacinto Boulevard
 
Tickets
Regular Non-Member - $40.00
CRF Tributary League Member - FREE
CRF River Society Member & Student - $20.00
 
To purchase tickets, please go to 
http://coloradoriver.org/events/barstow-speaker-series, email 
cont...@coloradoriver.org 
or call 512-498-1587.
 
Proceeds benefit the Colorado River Foundation.


Distinguished Speaker Panel
 
  
  
  
Laura Huffman
Texas State Director, The Nature Conservancy

Laura J. Huffman assumed the role of Texas State Director of The Nature 
Conservancy in June 2008. Mrs. Huffman heads a Texas staff of nearly 100 
scientists, conservation experts, and support staff working at preserves and 
projects across the state, including more than a dozen major freshwater 
conservation projects of critical importance. A native of Austin, Texas, Mrs. 
Huffman has long devoted substantial time to advancing environmental causes 
such as projects to protect water-supply quality and public green spaces. As 
deputy city manager for San Marcos from 1994 to 2002 and assistant city manager 
for Austin from 2002 to 2008, she spearheaded key watershed protection and 
economic development initiatives for both cities. Mrs. Huffman earned a Master 
of Public Affairs degree from the University of Texas at Austin and a Bachelor 
of Science degree from Texas A&M University in College Station.
 
 

  
  
  
Becky Motal
General Manager, LCRA

Rebecca S. Motal became the Lower Colorado River Authority's 10th general 
manager on July 2, 2011. She is the first female general manager in LCRA's 
history. Motal first began working for LCRA in 1972 after receiving a 
bachelor's degree in math from the University of Texas. She left to pursue a 
law degree and worked as an environmental attorney before returning to LCRA in 
1987. Motal returned to serve as manager of Economic and Financial Planning. In 
2007, she was promoted to Executive Manager of External Affairs, where she 
coordinated LCRA's activities with state and federal regulatory agencies. In 
that position, Motal had oversight over local governmental affairs, public 
affairs, customer service and corporate events. Motal, a Corpus Christi native, 
has three degrees from the University of Texas at Austin: a Bachelor of Arts in 
mathematics, a law degree, and a master's degree in business administration. 
She is  also on the Board of the Texas Public Power Association.
 
 

  
  
  
Andrew Sansom
Executive Director, Tecas River Systems Institute

Andrew Sansom is one of Texas’ leading conservationists. He is a former 
Executive Director of the Texas Parks and Wildlife Department and Executive 
Director of the Texas Nature Conservancy.  For his commitment to the management 
and protection of natural resources, Mr. Sansom is a recipient of the Chevron 
Conservation Award, The Chuck Yeager Award from the National Fish and Wildlife 
Foundation, The Pugsley Medal from the National Park Foundation, the Seton 
Award from the International  Association of  Fish and Wildlife Agencies and 
the Lifetime Achievement Award from the Nature Conservancy. He is a 
Distinguished Alumnus of Austin College and Texas Tech University. Mr. Sansom 
now serves as Research Professor of Geography and Executive Director of the 
River Systems Institute at Texas State University where he coordinates 
university policy and research related to freshwater resources, manages th e 
headwaters of the San Marcos River; administers the most extensive freshwater 
environmental education program in Texas; and supervises the training and 
coordination of more than 1000 volunteer water monitors in rivers and streams 
throughout the State.
 

 
  
  
  
Edward Vaughn
Chairman, Water Development Board

Edward Vaughan is an attorney in private practice. He serves as a director of 
Securi

[Texascavers] Fwd: CRF March Barstow Speaker Series

2012-03-05 Thread germanyj

 This might be of interest to many on this list.

julia

 

 

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From: Colorado River Foundation 
To: germanyj 
Sent: Thu, Mar 1, 2012 11:19 am
Subject: CRF March Barstow Speaker Series


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The Barstow Speaker Series
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Colorado River Foundation  



Event Details
Thursday, March 22, 2012

8:00-8:30am Check-In & Breakfast Served
8:30-10:00am Presentation
at the 
Four Seasons Hotel Austin
98 San Jacinto Boulevard
 
Tickets
Regular Non-Member - $40.00
CRF Tributary League Member - FREE
CRF River Society Member & Student - $20.00
 
To purchase tickets, please go to 
http://coloradoriver.org/events/barstow-speaker-series, email 
cont...@coloradoriver.org 
or call 512-498-1587.
 
Proceeds benefit the Colorado River Foundation.


Distinguished Speaker Panel
 
  
  
  
Laura Huffman
Texas State Director, The Nature Conservancy

Laura J. Huffman assumed the role of Texas State Director of The Nature 
Conservancy in June 2008. Mrs. Huffman heads a Texas staff of nearly 100 
scientists, conservation experts, and support staff working at preserves and 
projects across the state, including more than a dozen major freshwater 
conservation projects of critical importance. A native of Austin, Texas, Mrs. 
Huffman has long devoted substantial time to advancing environmental causes 
such as projects to protect water-supply quality and public green spaces. As 
deputy city manager for San Marcos from 1994 to 2002 and assistant city manager 
for Austin from 2002 to 2008, she spearheaded key watershed protection and 
economic development initiatives for both cities. Mrs. Huffman earned a Master 
of Public Affairs degree from the University of Texas at Austin and a Bachelor 
of Science degree from Texas A&M University in College Station.
 
 

  
  
  
Becky Motal
General Manager, LCRA

Rebecca S. Motal became the Lower Colorado River Authority's 10th general 
manager on July 2, 2011. She is the first female general manager in LCRA's 
history. Motal first began working for LCRA in 1972 after receiving a 
bachelor's degree in math from the University of Texas. She left to pursue a 
law degree and worked as an environmental attorney before returning to LCRA in 
1987. Motal returned to serve as manager of Economic and Financial Planning. In 
2007, she was promoted to Executive Manager of External Affairs, where she 
coordinated LCRA's activities with state and federal regulatory agencies. In 
that position, Motal had oversight over local governmental affairs, public 
affairs, customer service and corporate events. Motal, a Corpus Christi native, 
has three degrees from the University of Texas at Austin: a Bachelor of Arts in 
mathematics, a law degree, and a master's degree in business administration. 
She is  also on the Board of the Texas Public Power Association.
 
 

  
  
  
Andrew Sansom
Executive Director, Tecas River Systems Institute

Andrew Sansom is one of Texas’ leading conservationists. He is a former 
Executive Director of the Texas Parks and Wildlife Department and Executive 
Director of the Texas Nature Conservancy.  For his commitment to the management 
and protection of natural resources, Mr. Sansom is a recipient of the Chevron 
Conservation Award, The Chuck Yeager Award from the National Fish and Wildlife 
Foundation, The Pugsley Medal from the National Park Foundation, the Seton 
Award from the International  Association of  Fish and Wildlife Agencies and 
the Lifetime Achievement Award from the Nature Conservancy. He is a 
Distinguished Alumnus of Austin College and Texas Tech University. Mr. Sansom 
now serves as Research Professor of Geography and Executive Director of the 
River Systems Institute at Texas State University where he coordinates 
university policy and research related to freshwater resources, manages th e 
headwaters of the San Marcos River; administers the most extensive freshwater 
environmental education program in Texas; and supervises the training and 
coordination of more than 1000 volunteer water monitors in rivers and streams 
throughout the State.
 

 
  
  
  
Edward Vaughn
Chairman, Water Development Board

Edward Vaughan is an attorney in private practice. He serves as a director of 
Securi

[Texascavers] Fwd: CRF March Barstow Speaker Series

2012-03-05 Thread germanyj

 This might be of interest to many on this list.

julia

 

 

-Original Message-
From: Colorado River Foundation 
To: germanyj 
Sent: Thu, Mar 1, 2012 11:19 am
Subject: CRF March Barstow Speaker Series


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Half Full -- Half Empty?
A Candid Conversation of the Future of Water in Texas
 
The Barstow Speaker Series
hosted by the 
Colorado River Foundation  



Event Details
Thursday, March 22, 2012

8:00-8:30am Check-In & Breakfast Served
8:30-10:00am Presentation
at the 
Four Seasons Hotel Austin
98 San Jacinto Boulevard
 
Tickets
Regular Non-Member - $40.00
CRF Tributary League Member - FREE
CRF River Society Member & Student - $20.00
 
To purchase tickets, please go to 
http://coloradoriver.org/events/barstow-speaker-series, email 
cont...@coloradoriver.org 
or call 512-498-1587.
 
Proceeds benefit the Colorado River Foundation.


Distinguished Speaker Panel
 
  
  
  
Laura Huffman
Texas State Director, The Nature Conservancy

Laura J. Huffman assumed the role of Texas State Director of The Nature 
Conservancy in June 2008. Mrs. Huffman heads a Texas staff of nearly 100 
scientists, conservation experts, and support staff working at preserves and 
projects across the state, including more than a dozen major freshwater 
conservation projects of critical importance. A native of Austin, Texas, Mrs. 
Huffman has long devoted substantial time to advancing environmental causes 
such as projects to protect water-supply quality and public green spaces. As 
deputy city manager for San Marcos from 1994 to 2002 and assistant city manager 
for Austin from 2002 to 2008, she spearheaded key watershed protection and 
economic development initiatives for both cities. Mrs. Huffman earned a Master 
of Public Affairs degree from the University of Texas at Austin and a Bachelor 
of Science degree from Texas A&M University in College Station.
 
 

  
  
  
Becky Motal
General Manager, LCRA

Rebecca S. Motal became the Lower Colorado River Authority's 10th general 
manager on July 2, 2011. She is the first female general manager in LCRA's 
history. Motal first began working for LCRA in 1972 after receiving a 
bachelor's degree in math from the University of Texas. She left to pursue a 
law degree and worked as an environmental attorney before returning to LCRA in 
1987. Motal returned to serve as manager of Economic and Financial Planning. In 
2007, she was promoted to Executive Manager of External Affairs, where she 
coordinated LCRA's activities with state and federal regulatory agencies. In 
that position, Motal had oversight over local governmental affairs, public 
affairs, customer service and corporate events. Motal, a Corpus Christi native, 
has three degrees from the University of Texas at Austin: a Bachelor of Arts in 
mathematics, a law degree, and a master's degree in business administration. 
She is  also on the Board of the Texas Public Power Association.
 
 

  
  
  
Andrew Sansom
Executive Director, Tecas River Systems Institute

Andrew Sansom is one of Texas’ leading conservationists. He is a former 
Executive Director of the Texas Parks and Wildlife Department and Executive 
Director of the Texas Nature Conservancy.  For his commitment to the management 
and protection of natural resources, Mr. Sansom is a recipient of the Chevron 
Conservation Award, The Chuck Yeager Award from the National Fish and Wildlife 
Foundation, The Pugsley Medal from the National Park Foundation, the Seton 
Award from the International  Association of  Fish and Wildlife Agencies and 
the Lifetime Achievement Award from the Nature Conservancy. He is a 
Distinguished Alumnus of Austin College and Texas Tech University. Mr. Sansom 
now serves as Research Professor of Geography and Executive Director of the 
River Systems Institute at Texas State University where he coordinates 
university policy and research related to freshwater resources, manages th e 
headwaters of the San Marcos River; administers the most extensive freshwater 
environmental education program in Texas; and supervises the training and 
coordination of more than 1000 volunteer water monitors in rivers and streams 
throughout the State.
 

 
  
  
  
Edward Vaughn
Chairman, Water Development Board

Edward Vaughan is an attorney in private practice. He serves as a director of 
Securi

[Texascavers] International Exploration Session at 2012 NSS Convention

2012-03-05 Thread Mark Minton

To anyone who has been caving outside of the United States:

We would like to extend the opportunity for you to present a 
talk at the International Exploration session of the NSS Convention 
to be held near Lewisburg, West Virginia, June 25-29, 2012.  As 
currently scheduled, International Exploration will take place all 
day on Wednesday of Convention week.  The length of time allotted to 
a given talk is variable, depending upon both the amount of material 
you have to present and the number of talks on the schedule, but 
typically runs 15 to 30 minutes.  Abstracts for presentations are due 
by April 15, but please do not wait until the last minute, to ensure 
that you get a spot.  More information is available 
here:  .  We 
expect to have a strong showing for what should be a large and 
exciting NSS Convention.  We hope to hear from you soon!


Mark Minton and Yvonne Droms
2012 International Exploration Session Co-Chairs

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[Texascavers] International Exploration Session at 2012 NSS Convention

2012-03-05 Thread Mark Minton

To anyone who has been caving outside of the United States:

We would like to extend the opportunity for you to present a 
talk at the International Exploration session of the NSS Convention 
to be held near Lewisburg, West Virginia, June 25-29, 2012.  As 
currently scheduled, International Exploration will take place all 
day on Wednesday of Convention week.  The length of time allotted to 
a given talk is variable, depending upon both the amount of material 
you have to present and the number of talks on the schedule, but 
typically runs 15 to 30 minutes.  Abstracts for presentations are due 
by April 15, but please do not wait until the last minute, to ensure 
that you get a spot.  More information is available 
here:  .  We 
expect to have a strong showing for what should be a large and 
exciting NSS Convention.  We hope to hear from you soon!


Mark Minton and Yvonne Droms
2012 International Exploration Session Co-Chairs

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[Texascavers] International Exploration Session at 2012 NSS Convention

2012-03-05 Thread Mark Minton

To anyone who has been caving outside of the United States:

We would like to extend the opportunity for you to present a 
talk at the International Exploration session of the NSS Convention 
to be held near Lewisburg, West Virginia, June 25-29, 2012.  As 
currently scheduled, International Exploration will take place all 
day on Wednesday of Convention week.  The length of time allotted to 
a given talk is variable, depending upon both the amount of material 
you have to present and the number of talks on the schedule, but 
typically runs 15 to 30 minutes.  Abstracts for presentations are due 
by April 15, but please do not wait until the last minute, to ensure 
that you get a spot.  More information is available 
here:  .  We 
expect to have a strong showing for what should be a large and 
exciting NSS Convention.  We hope to hear from you soon!


Mark Minton and Yvonne Droms
2012 International Exploration Session Co-Chairs

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[Texascavers] TSA Spring Convention is almost here! March 30-April 1st, Boerne, TX

2012-03-05 Thread ellie watson
*2012 TSA Spring Convention*
March 30-April 1st, 2012
Boerne, TX
http://www.cavetexas.org/events/TSASC/tsasc2012.html

Hello Texas Cavers!

The Texas Speleological Association's annual Spring Convention is less than
a month away and everyone is invited! The flowers will be blooming in full
force in the Texas Hill Country and it will be a great weekend to spend
together.

This is an annual, technical meeting with formal presentations from cavers
about cave sciences, exploration, project status and displays in the
Map/Photo Salon. The TSA, founded in 1956, has been bringing Texas
cavers together for over 50 years. Come and meet fellow cavers and project
leaders from around the state. This is a great chance to get involved with
ongoing projects and create future caving opportunities for all.

Presentations will be on Saturday, March 31st beginning around 9am and
Mallory Mayeux and Roger Moore already have a great lineup of presenters
selected. We will send out a program a week before convention if not
sooner.

*FEES: *
* *
*Registration*

   - $15.00 Individual Rate *per person*
   - $10.00 Child Rate* per child* 12-16 years old
   - $40.00 Family Rate (parents & children)
   - Children 12 and under $free

*Camping*

   - $5.00 Camping per person/per night camping (children under 16 camp
   free)

*Facility for Saturday Meeting:* *Geneva School of Boerne *(113 Cascade
Caverns Rd, Fair Oaks Ranch, TX 78015)

   - Arial view of facility(park anywhere):
   https://docs.google.com/open?id=0BzP7GaKdftjDY0NhYUxVYTJTNnlQNzFXZGE0azM4QQ

*Campground for Friday-Sunday: **Cascade Caverns** (*226 Cascade Caverns
Road, Boerne, Texas 78015) http://www.cascadecaverns.com/

   - Full use of beautiful campground facilities for Sunday meetings,
   auction, and meals
   - Renovated showers/bathrooms
   - No attack dogs permitted on campground and all pets must remain on
   leash
   - Free scheduled cave tour for all registered.

*Tentative Schedule (this is not finalized):

*
*Friday, March 30th*
*

   - 5pm - Arrival & Registration at Cascade Caverns Campground

*
*Saturday, March 31st*
*

   - 8am - Registration at Geneva School of Boerne
-  9am-5pm
- Presentations at Geneva School of Boerne
   - 10pm - Deadline for entries into Map & Photo Salon at Geneva School of
   Boerne
   - 10am-4pm- regular scheduled tour of Cascade Caverns (Tours at 10am,
   11am, 12pm, 1pm, 2pm, 3pm, 4pm)
   - 12pm-1:30pm - Lunch on own, salon viewing in facility, visit vendors
   outside of facility
   - 5pm or directly after talks- TSA meeting at Geneva School of Boerne
   - 7pm - Group Feed at Cascade Caverns Campground catered by Spinelli's
   Vistro
- 8:30pm (or after everyone is good and fed)
- TCMA Auction
in Service Center at Cascade Caverns Campground
   - The rest of the night: fun and hanging out, campfire at Cascade
   Caverns Campground

*
*Sunday, April 1st*
*

   - First thing-
Easter egg hunt for the kid
at Cascade Caverns Campground
   - 8am - TCMA breakfast at Cascade Caverns Campground
   - 9am- TCMA meeting at Cascade Caverns Campground
   - 11am-4pm-regular scheduled tour of Cascade Caverns (Tours at 11am,
   12pm, 1pm, 2pm, 3pm, 4pm)
   - 2pm - Check-out

*
More fun details to come. Please don't hesitate to ask me any questions.

See you soon!

Ellie Watson
TSA Vice Chair
509-899-0007
ellie.tho...@gmail.com
For Facebook users: https://www.facebook.com/events/312213962130706/


[Texascavers] TSA Spring Convention is almost here! March 30-April 1st, Boerne, TX

2012-03-05 Thread ellie watson
*2012 TSA Spring Convention*
March 30-April 1st, 2012
Boerne, TX
http://www.cavetexas.org/events/TSASC/tsasc2012.html

Hello Texas Cavers!

The Texas Speleological Association's annual Spring Convention is less than
a month away and everyone is invited! The flowers will be blooming in full
force in the Texas Hill Country and it will be a great weekend to spend
together.

This is an annual, technical meeting with formal presentations from cavers
about cave sciences, exploration, project status and displays in the
Map/Photo Salon. The TSA, founded in 1956, has been bringing Texas
cavers together for over 50 years. Come and meet fellow cavers and project
leaders from around the state. This is a great chance to get involved with
ongoing projects and create future caving opportunities for all.

Presentations will be on Saturday, March 31st beginning around 9am and
Mallory Mayeux and Roger Moore already have a great lineup of presenters
selected. We will send out a program a week before convention if not
sooner.

*FEES: *
* *
*Registration*

   - $15.00 Individual Rate *per person*
   - $10.00 Child Rate* per child* 12-16 years old
   - $40.00 Family Rate (parents & children)
   - Children 12 and under $free

*Camping*

   - $5.00 Camping per person/per night camping (children under 16 camp
   free)

*Facility for Saturday Meeting:* *Geneva School of Boerne *(113 Cascade
Caverns Rd, Fair Oaks Ranch, TX 78015)

   - Arial view of facility(park anywhere):
   https://docs.google.com/open?id=0BzP7GaKdftjDY0NhYUxVYTJTNnlQNzFXZGE0azM4QQ

*Campground for Friday-Sunday: **Cascade Caverns** (*226 Cascade Caverns
Road, Boerne, Texas 78015) http://www.cascadecaverns.com/

   - Full use of beautiful campground facilities for Sunday meetings,
   auction, and meals
   - Renovated showers/bathrooms
   - No attack dogs permitted on campground and all pets must remain on
   leash
   - Free scheduled cave tour for all registered.

*Tentative Schedule (this is not finalized):

*
*Friday, March 30th*
*

   - 5pm - Arrival & Registration at Cascade Caverns Campground

*
*Saturday, March 31st*
*

   - 8am - Registration at Geneva School of Boerne
-  9am-5pm
- Presentations at Geneva School of Boerne
   - 10pm - Deadline for entries into Map & Photo Salon at Geneva School of
   Boerne
   - 10am-4pm- regular scheduled tour of Cascade Caverns (Tours at 10am,
   11am, 12pm, 1pm, 2pm, 3pm, 4pm)
   - 12pm-1:30pm - Lunch on own, salon viewing in facility, visit vendors
   outside of facility
   - 5pm or directly after talks- TSA meeting at Geneva School of Boerne
   - 7pm - Group Feed at Cascade Caverns Campground catered by Spinelli's
   Vistro
- 8:30pm (or after everyone is good and fed)
- TCMA Auction
in Service Center at Cascade Caverns Campground
   - The rest of the night: fun and hanging out, campfire at Cascade
   Caverns Campground

*
*Sunday, April 1st*
*

   - First thing-
Easter egg hunt for the kid
at Cascade Caverns Campground
   - 8am - TCMA breakfast at Cascade Caverns Campground
   - 9am- TCMA meeting at Cascade Caverns Campground
   - 11am-4pm-regular scheduled tour of Cascade Caverns (Tours at 11am,
   12pm, 1pm, 2pm, 3pm, 4pm)
   - 2pm - Check-out

*
More fun details to come. Please don't hesitate to ask me any questions.

See you soon!

Ellie Watson
TSA Vice Chair
509-899-0007
ellie.tho...@gmail.com
For Facebook users: https://www.facebook.com/events/312213962130706/


[Texascavers] TSA Spring Convention is almost here! March 30-April 1st, Boerne, TX

2012-03-05 Thread ellie watson
*2012 TSA Spring Convention*
March 30-April 1st, 2012
Boerne, TX
http://www.cavetexas.org/events/TSASC/tsasc2012.html

Hello Texas Cavers!

The Texas Speleological Association's annual Spring Convention is less than
a month away and everyone is invited! The flowers will be blooming in full
force in the Texas Hill Country and it will be a great weekend to spend
together.

This is an annual, technical meeting with formal presentations from cavers
about cave sciences, exploration, project status and displays in the
Map/Photo Salon. The TSA, founded in 1956, has been bringing Texas
cavers together for over 50 years. Come and meet fellow cavers and project
leaders from around the state. This is a great chance to get involved with
ongoing projects and create future caving opportunities for all.

Presentations will be on Saturday, March 31st beginning around 9am and
Mallory Mayeux and Roger Moore already have a great lineup of presenters
selected. We will send out a program a week before convention if not
sooner.

*FEES: *
* *
*Registration*

   - $15.00 Individual Rate *per person*
   - $10.00 Child Rate* per child* 12-16 years old
   - $40.00 Family Rate (parents & children)
   - Children 12 and under $free

*Camping*

   - $5.00 Camping per person/per night camping (children under 16 camp
   free)

*Facility for Saturday Meeting:* *Geneva School of Boerne *(113 Cascade
Caverns Rd, Fair Oaks Ranch, TX 78015)

   - Arial view of facility(park anywhere):
   https://docs.google.com/open?id=0BzP7GaKdftjDY0NhYUxVYTJTNnlQNzFXZGE0azM4QQ

*Campground for Friday-Sunday: **Cascade Caverns** (*226 Cascade Caverns
Road, Boerne, Texas 78015) http://www.cascadecaverns.com/

   - Full use of beautiful campground facilities for Sunday meetings,
   auction, and meals
   - Renovated showers/bathrooms
   - No attack dogs permitted on campground and all pets must remain on
   leash
   - Free scheduled cave tour for all registered.

*Tentative Schedule (this is not finalized):

*
*Friday, March 30th*
*

   - 5pm - Arrival & Registration at Cascade Caverns Campground

*
*Saturday, March 31st*
*

   - 8am - Registration at Geneva School of Boerne
-  9am-5pm
- Presentations at Geneva School of Boerne
   - 10pm - Deadline for entries into Map & Photo Salon at Geneva School of
   Boerne
   - 10am-4pm- regular scheduled tour of Cascade Caverns (Tours at 10am,
   11am, 12pm, 1pm, 2pm, 3pm, 4pm)
   - 12pm-1:30pm - Lunch on own, salon viewing in facility, visit vendors
   outside of facility
   - 5pm or directly after talks- TSA meeting at Geneva School of Boerne
   - 7pm - Group Feed at Cascade Caverns Campground catered by Spinelli's
   Vistro
- 8:30pm (or after everyone is good and fed)
- TCMA Auction
in Service Center at Cascade Caverns Campground
   - The rest of the night: fun and hanging out, campfire at Cascade
   Caverns Campground

*
*Sunday, April 1st*
*

   - First thing-
Easter egg hunt for the kid
at Cascade Caverns Campground
   - 8am - TCMA breakfast at Cascade Caverns Campground
   - 9am- TCMA meeting at Cascade Caverns Campground
   - 11am-4pm-regular scheduled tour of Cascade Caverns (Tours at 11am,
   12pm, 1pm, 2pm, 3pm, 4pm)
   - 2pm - Check-out

*
More fun details to come. Please don't hesitate to ask me any questions.

See you soon!

Ellie Watson
TSA Vice Chair
509-899-0007
ellie.tho...@gmail.com
For Facebook users: https://www.facebook.com/events/312213962130706/


[Texascavers] Green car technology for off-road underground transport :

2012-03-05 Thread JerryAtkin
 
 
(interesting video on the  website -- GLA)
Nissan Leaf gives new meaning to "BlueGrass Underground"  (Video)

The Nissan Leaf is helping  BlueGrass and BlueGrass legend Del McCoury go 
underground!

 
By _Adam Yamada-Hanff_ (http://www.torquenews.com/users/adam-yamada-hanff)  
 on Sun, 03/04/2012 - 18:22 
 
Del McCoury and his band were shuttled by Nissan Leafs for a new season of  
“Bluegrass Underground,” which airs on PBS and is sponsored by Nissan. The 
 location of the performance was Cumberland Caverns of Warren County, TN.  
The stage for McCoury and the band, Cumberland Caverns, is more than 300 
feet  underground with a full TV production crew and a dozen other musical 
acts and  500 of his closest friends. So this is truly and literally “Bluegrass 
 Underground!”  
The video, lighting and sound gear required for this production can’t be  
carried by-hand into the cave. Vehicles are needed to carry equipment down 
into  the caverns. For traveling into the constricted dirt passageway with 
steep  inclines off-road four-wheelers would be ideal, but pollute the air of 
this  unique environment and could do harm in the caves.  
“Bringing combustible engines into the cave to get the gear and our artists 
 into the cave has been a problem,” said “Bluegrass Underground” producer 
Todd  Mayo. “Now we have a solution.” 
That solution was obviously an all-electric car like the Nissan Leaf.  
Mayo reminds us that it took 3 million years for nature to form the  
Cumberland Caverns, and now that it is being filled with music, it is important 
 
to be in harmony with the world down there.  
The 100% all-electric Nissan Leaf is an answer because it emits no 
emissions  for the cave or the performers to absorb, and for the crew and 
audience 
to  inhale. Carrying McCoury into the cave for his performance, the Leaf 
traverses  the rock passageways with only inches of clearance on each side and, 
in spots,  above. With an incredulous smile, McCoury describes his trip 
underground as the  strangest ride of his life and praised the Leaf's handling. 
 
Sara Schaffer, a bassist for the David Mayfield Parade, had not ridden in 
an  electric car before, not to mention underground.  
“It makes it a lot easier for all of us to breath which is cool, and I like 
 it better than the four wheelers because of the (lack of) noise,” said 
Schaffer.  “You could be slipping in and out with people not even noticing. It’
s really  neat.” 
McCoury has been performing since the 1960s and has sung countless times  
before, but the Caverns provide a truly interesting experience for everyone  
involved. Violet lights bathe the rock walls all around as the Del McCoury 
Band  performs its American roots style of music in a truly beautiful 
setting.  
“If you don’t want me,” sings McCoury, banjo and fiddle galloping in pace  
with his old guitar, “I’ll dry my tears and move on.”  
Cumberland Caverns once stored civil war gunpowder. Moonshiners have used 
it,  and now an electric car moves musicians and equipment in and out of this 
 historic monument.  
And, earlier, as McCoury stepped out of the Nissan Leaf and marveled at the 
 ancient environment into which it brought him to perform, he had mused 
about  this unexpected experience, “Guess only my music stays the same.” 
However, car  and vehicle technologies do not! 
_http://www.torquenews.com/1070/nissan-leaf-gives-new-meaning-bluegrass-unde
rground-video_ 
(http://www.torquenews.com/1070/nissan-leaf-gives-new-meaning-bluegrass-underground-video)

[Texascavers] Green car technology for off-road underground transport :

2012-03-05 Thread JerryAtkin
 
 
(interesting video on the  website -- GLA)
Nissan Leaf gives new meaning to "BlueGrass Underground"  (Video)

The Nissan Leaf is helping  BlueGrass and BlueGrass legend Del McCoury go 
underground!

 
By _Adam Yamada-Hanff_ (http://www.torquenews.com/users/adam-yamada-hanff)  
 on Sun, 03/04/2012 - 18:22 
 
Del McCoury and his band were shuttled by Nissan Leafs for a new season of  
“Bluegrass Underground,” which airs on PBS and is sponsored by Nissan. The 
 location of the performance was Cumberland Caverns of Warren County, TN.  
The stage for McCoury and the band, Cumberland Caverns, is more than 300 
feet  underground with a full TV production crew and a dozen other musical 
acts and  500 of his closest friends. So this is truly and literally “Bluegrass 
 Underground!”  
The video, lighting and sound gear required for this production can’t be  
carried by-hand into the cave. Vehicles are needed to carry equipment down 
into  the caverns. For traveling into the constricted dirt passageway with 
steep  inclines off-road four-wheelers would be ideal, but pollute the air of 
this  unique environment and could do harm in the caves.  
“Bringing combustible engines into the cave to get the gear and our artists 
 into the cave has been a problem,” said “Bluegrass Underground” producer 
Todd  Mayo. “Now we have a solution.” 
That solution was obviously an all-electric car like the Nissan Leaf.  
Mayo reminds us that it took 3 million years for nature to form the  
Cumberland Caverns, and now that it is being filled with music, it is important 
 
to be in harmony with the world down there.  
The 100% all-electric Nissan Leaf is an answer because it emits no 
emissions  for the cave or the performers to absorb, and for the crew and 
audience 
to  inhale. Carrying McCoury into the cave for his performance, the Leaf 
traverses  the rock passageways with only inches of clearance on each side and, 
in spots,  above. With an incredulous smile, McCoury describes his trip 
underground as the  strangest ride of his life and praised the Leaf's handling. 
 
Sara Schaffer, a bassist for the David Mayfield Parade, had not ridden in 
an  electric car before, not to mention underground.  
“It makes it a lot easier for all of us to breath which is cool, and I like 
 it better than the four wheelers because of the (lack of) noise,” said 
Schaffer.  “You could be slipping in and out with people not even noticing. It’
s really  neat.” 
McCoury has been performing since the 1960s and has sung countless times  
before, but the Caverns provide a truly interesting experience for everyone  
involved. Violet lights bathe the rock walls all around as the Del McCoury 
Band  performs its American roots style of music in a truly beautiful 
setting.  
“If you don’t want me,” sings McCoury, banjo and fiddle galloping in pace  
with his old guitar, “I’ll dry my tears and move on.”  
Cumberland Caverns once stored civil war gunpowder. Moonshiners have used 
it,  and now an electric car moves musicians and equipment in and out of this 
 historic monument.  
And, earlier, as McCoury stepped out of the Nissan Leaf and marveled at the 
 ancient environment into which it brought him to perform, he had mused 
about  this unexpected experience, “Guess only my music stays the same.” 
However, car  and vehicle technologies do not! 
_http://www.torquenews.com/1070/nissan-leaf-gives-new-meaning-bluegrass-unde
rground-video_ 
(http://www.torquenews.com/1070/nissan-leaf-gives-new-meaning-bluegrass-underground-video)

[Texascavers] Green car technology for off-road underground transport :

2012-03-05 Thread JerryAtkin
 
 
(interesting video on the  website -- GLA)
Nissan Leaf gives new meaning to "BlueGrass Underground"  (Video)

The Nissan Leaf is helping  BlueGrass and BlueGrass legend Del McCoury go 
underground!

 
By _Adam Yamada-Hanff_ (http://www.torquenews.com/users/adam-yamada-hanff)  
 on Sun, 03/04/2012 - 18:22 
 
Del McCoury and his band were shuttled by Nissan Leafs for a new season of  
“Bluegrass Underground,” which airs on PBS and is sponsored by Nissan. The 
 location of the performance was Cumberland Caverns of Warren County, TN.  
The stage for McCoury and the band, Cumberland Caverns, is more than 300 
feet  underground with a full TV production crew and a dozen other musical 
acts and  500 of his closest friends. So this is truly and literally “Bluegrass 
 Underground!”  
The video, lighting and sound gear required for this production can’t be  
carried by-hand into the cave. Vehicles are needed to carry equipment down 
into  the caverns. For traveling into the constricted dirt passageway with 
steep  inclines off-road four-wheelers would be ideal, but pollute the air of 
this  unique environment and could do harm in the caves.  
“Bringing combustible engines into the cave to get the gear and our artists 
 into the cave has been a problem,” said “Bluegrass Underground” producer 
Todd  Mayo. “Now we have a solution.” 
That solution was obviously an all-electric car like the Nissan Leaf.  
Mayo reminds us that it took 3 million years for nature to form the  
Cumberland Caverns, and now that it is being filled with music, it is important 
 
to be in harmony with the world down there.  
The 100% all-electric Nissan Leaf is an answer because it emits no 
emissions  for the cave or the performers to absorb, and for the crew and 
audience 
to  inhale. Carrying McCoury into the cave for his performance, the Leaf 
traverses  the rock passageways with only inches of clearance on each side and, 
in spots,  above. With an incredulous smile, McCoury describes his trip 
underground as the  strangest ride of his life and praised the Leaf's handling. 
 
Sara Schaffer, a bassist for the David Mayfield Parade, had not ridden in 
an  electric car before, not to mention underground.  
“It makes it a lot easier for all of us to breath which is cool, and I like 
 it better than the four wheelers because of the (lack of) noise,” said 
Schaffer.  “You could be slipping in and out with people not even noticing. It’
s really  neat.” 
McCoury has been performing since the 1960s and has sung countless times  
before, but the Caverns provide a truly interesting experience for everyone  
involved. Violet lights bathe the rock walls all around as the Del McCoury 
Band  performs its American roots style of music in a truly beautiful 
setting.  
“If you don’t want me,” sings McCoury, banjo and fiddle galloping in pace  
with his old guitar, “I’ll dry my tears and move on.”  
Cumberland Caverns once stored civil war gunpowder. Moonshiners have used 
it,  and now an electric car moves musicians and equipment in and out of this 
 historic monument.  
And, earlier, as McCoury stepped out of the Nissan Leaf and marveled at the 
 ancient environment into which it brought him to perform, he had mused 
about  this unexpected experience, “Guess only my music stays the same.” 
However, car  and vehicle technologies do not! 
_http://www.torquenews.com/1070/nissan-leaf-gives-new-meaning-bluegrass-unde
rground-video_ 
(http://www.torquenews.com/1070/nissan-leaf-gives-new-meaning-bluegrass-underground-video)