[PBSS] April Meeting
April 10th, 2012 Meeting of the PBSS Attendees: Tony Abernathy, Walter Feaster, Matthew Ormsby, Alex Ormsby and Patrick Ray Financial Report: 781.79 Welcome back Walter. We continued the conversation about the need to add Walter to the PBSS bank account so that he could do his treasurering accurately. Given the banks hours Walter would only be able to meet someone to be added to the account during his lunch hour, from 11:30 to 12:30. We discussed him possibly meeting Bill around 12:00 sometimes before the end of April. Bill will be out of town the remainder of the week so the soonest date this could be done would be April 16th. I said I'd call Bill and let him know what we were shooting for to see if we could make it happen this time. Walter gave an account of his current illness. He spent two weeks in the hospital in San Antonio but is back in Midland now. His condition is thrombotic thrombocytopenic purpura. We broke down the words to try and understand the condition but I was unfamiliar with the word purpura (I've since learned it means purple). Essentially, Walter is having unusual clotting in his small blood vessels which leads to a deficiency of platelets (your clotting cells) in the blood stream. As a result bleeding can occur under the skin, which looks like bruising, which is purple. Mystery solved. Unfortunately his kidney is not functioning normally. His quote was, Two weeks in the hospital, kidney quit, back on dialysis, it sucks. We discussed the possibility of a return trip to Blue Quail on either May 5th or 12th. Walter said he was probably free both weekends but Patrick, Alex and myself all have prior commitments. Tony said his wife will be having surgery soon so he also would probably not be able to make the trip. We also began to talk about the SWR but it doesn't look like anyone is going of the attendees so we undiscussed it. I mentioned that we were still waiting to hear back on a date for Abyss but we were shooting for the 1st or 2nd week in June. The meeting was closed with no undue objections at 7:23pm. Matthew Ormsby PBSS President /preThe contents of this electronic mail message and any attachments are confidential, possibly privileged and intended for the addressee(s) only.brOnly the addressee(s) may read, disseminate, retain or otherwise use this message. If received in error, please immediately inform the sender and then delete this message without disclosing its contents to anyone./pre ___ PBSS mailing list p...@caver.net http://caver.net/mailman/listinfo/pbss_caver.net
[Texascavers] salamanders and Andy Gluesenkamp in today's Austin American-Statesman
Once again, salamanders and State Herpetologist Andy Gluesenkamp are in the news. http://www.statesman.com/news/williamson/long-lost-krienke-springs-is-haven-for-salamanders-2306944.html
Re: [Texascavers] salamanders and Andy Gluesenkamp in today's Austin American-Statesman
Ole Wag a Bag is at it again. Preston in western KY - Original Message - From: Logan McNatt To: Texas Cavers Cc: Bill Elliott Sent: Monday, April 16, 2012 7:03 AM Subject: [Texascavers] salamanders and Andy Gluesenkamp in today's Austin American-Statesman Once again, salamanders and State Herpetologist Andy Gluesenkamp are in the news. http://www.statesman.com/news/williamson/long-lost-krienke-springs-is-haven-for-salamanders-2306944.html
[Texascavers] New Petzl LED
In July Petzl will have a new LED out, the NAO, $175, 7 to 355 Lumens, rechargeable Lithium-ion or two AAA in a pinch. That's all I know for now. Info from Climbing magazine. It may give Sten a run for it's money. Preston in western KY
Re: [Texascavers] New Petzl LED
I found more info at www.petzl.com/nao This is certainly an innovative idea for a headlamp. It's pronounced now, and features something they are calling Reactive Lighting Technology. The professional promo video is over 4 minuets long and includes no footage of the headlamp being used in a cave. I'm curious how well the Reactive Lighting Technology will work in a cave. Could be awesome, or could be frustrating beyond usefulness. Justin On Mon, Apr 16, 2012 at 8:12 PM, Preston Forsythe pns_...@bellsouth.net wrote: In July Petzl will have a new LED out, the NAO, $175, 7 to 355 Lumens, rechargeable Lithium-ion or two AAA in a pinch. That's all I know for now. Info from Climbing magazine. It may give Sten a run for it's money. Preston in western KY - Visit our website: http://texascavers.com To unsubscribe, e-mail: texascavers-unsubscr...@texascavers.com For additional commands, e-mail: texascavers-h...@texascavers.com
Re: [Texascavers] New Petzl LED
The big innovation of the NAO light is that it is supposed to sense the environment and automatically adjust the light output to match. http://www.petzl.com/us/outdoor/headlamps/nao So, for example, if you're in a large passage looking around it will be on high, but if you then look down at your survey book to sketch, it will dim so that you're not blinded by the reflected light. Sounds good in principle, but I suspect there will be situations where the light will not adjust the way you want it to. Sounds like a case of trying to design something to be too smart. What's wrong with manually changing the output as you need to? Mark At 09:12 PM 4/16/2012, Preston Forsythe wrote: In July Petzl will have a new LED out, the NAO, $175, 7 to 355 Lumens, rechargeable Lithium-ion or two AAA in a pinch. That's all I know for now. Info from Climbing magazine. It may give Sten a run for it's money. Preston in western KY Please reply to mmin...@caver.net Permanent email address is mmin...@illinoisalumni.org - Visit our website: http://texascavers.com To unsubscribe, e-mail: texascavers-unsubscr...@texascavers.com For additional commands, e-mail: texascavers-h...@texascavers.com
Re: [Texascavers] New Petzl LED
My guess is that it's going to be easy for the sensor to become muddy and it would think that it needs more light, because it's not sensing much (or any, if it's completely clogged). I'll be curious to see what cavers think about it. - Fofo Mark Minton wrote, on 16/4/12 19:16 : The big innovation of the NAO light is that it is supposed to sense the environment and automatically adjust the light output to match. ... Sounds like a case of trying to design something to be too smart. What's wrong with manually changing the output as you need to? Mark Justin Leigh Shaw wrote, on 16/4/12 19:06 : I'm curious how well the Reactive Lighting Technology will work in a cave. Could be awesome, or could be frustrating beyond usefulness. Justin - Visit our website: http://texascavers.com To unsubscribe, e-mail: texascavers-unsubscr...@texascavers.com For additional commands, e-mail: texascavers-h...@texascavers.com
[Texascavers] UT Grotto meeting Wed April 18
Howdy Caver, You are invited to the UT Grotto meeting - Wednesday April 18th from 7:45PM- 9:00PM University of Texas Campus in 2.48 Painter Hall (156 West 24th Street, Austin TX 78712) http://www.utexas.edu/maps/main/buildings/pai.html Jim Kennedy will present Gypsum Bat Caves of North Texas. Jim recently visited bat caves in the Texas panhandle to gather basic population and habitat data, and to look for signs of the approaching White Nose Syndrome. This area is a vast gypsum plain, extending into Oklahoma, and seldom visited by cavers. There are many undocumented caves, and even some of the major known caves remain unmapped. Join him and your Austin Texas Caver friends for a quick look at the bats and karst of this region. For information on Underground Texas Grotto activities, please see www.utgrotto.org Officer contact, trip reports, event calendar, and new caver training links to beginner trips or vertical rope training are available. Before the meeting, take advantage of Sao Paulo www.saopaulos.net for happy hour specials. This area is the best place to park and meet folks walking over to the meeting. Then after the official meeting, we continue with the decades long tradition to reconvene for burgers, beer, and tall tales of caving at Posse East. www.posse-east.com The UT Grotto Program calendar is wide open and needs you, the caver with photos and a story to share about your adventures, scientific research, or something else really cool. Contact me. Sincerely, Gary Franklin UT Grotto Vice Chair Program Organizer 512-585-6057 v...@utgrotto.org
[SWR] Move over cave radios, neutrino communications underground....
Cavers: Dig this, uh, take a look: http://www.ornl.gov/info/news/pulse/no360/story1.shtml jtml ___ SWR mailing list s...@caver.net http://caver.net/mailman/listinfo/swr_caver.net
Re: [SWR] Move over cave radios, neutrino communications underground....
John, That is way cool. Karl From: John Lyles j...@losalamos.com To: s...@caver.net Sent: Monday, April 16, 2012 1:52 PM Subject: [SWR] Move over cave radios, neutrino communications underground Cavers: Dig this, uh, take a look: http://www.ornl.gov/info/news/pulse/no360/story1.shtml jtml ___ SWR mailing list s...@caver.net http://caver.net/mailman/listinfo/swr_caver.net___ SWR mailing list s...@caver.net http://caver.net/mailman/listinfo/swr_caver.net
[PBSS] April Meeting
April 10th, 2012 Meeting of the PBSS Attendees: Tony Abernathy, Walter Feaster, Matthew Ormsby, Alex Ormsby and Patrick Ray Financial Report: 781.79 Welcome back Walter. We continued the conversation about the need to add Walter to the PBSS bank account so that he could do his treasurering accurately. Given the banks hours Walter would only be able to meet someone to be added to the account during his lunch hour, from 11:30 to 12:30. We discussed him possibly meeting Bill around 12:00 sometimes before the end of April. Bill will be out of town the remainder of the week so the soonest date this could be done would be April 16th. I said I'd call Bill and let him know what we were shooting for to see if we could make it happen this time. Walter gave an account of his current illness. He spent two weeks in the hospital in San Antonio but is back in Midland now. His condition is thrombotic thrombocytopenic purpura. We broke down the words to try and understand the condition but I was unfamiliar with the word purpura (I've since learned it means purple). Essentially, Walter is having unusual clotting in his small blood vessels which leads to a deficiency of platelets (your clotting cells) in the blood stream. As a result bleeding can occur under the skin, which looks like bruising, which is purple. Mystery solved. Unfortunately his kidney is not functioning normally. His quote was, Two weeks in the hospital, kidney quit, back on dialysis, it sucks. We discussed the possibility of a return trip to Blue Quail on either May 5th or 12th. Walter said he was probably free both weekends but Patrick, Alex and myself all have prior commitments. Tony said his wife will be having surgery soon so he also would probably not be able to make the trip. We also began to talk about the SWR but it doesn't look like anyone is going of the attendees so we undiscussed it. I mentioned that we were still waiting to hear back on a date for Abyss but we were shooting for the 1st or 2nd week in June. The meeting was closed with no undue objections at 7:23pm. Matthew Ormsby PBSS President /preThe contents of this electronic mail message and any attachments are confidential, possibly privileged and intended for the addressee(s) only.brOnly the addressee(s) may read, disseminate, retain or otherwise use this message. If received in error, please immediately inform the sender and then delete this message without disclosing its contents to anyone./pre ___ PBSS mailing list p...@caver.net http://caver.net/mailman/listinfo/pbss_caver.net
[Texascavers] salamanders and Andy Gluesenkamp in today's Austin American-Statesman
Once again, salamanders and State Herpetologist Andy Gluesenkamp are in the news. http://www.statesman.com/news/williamson/long-lost-krienke-springs-is-haven-for-salamanders-2306944.html
Re: [Texascavers] salamanders and Andy Gluesenkamp in today's Austin American-Statesman
Ole Wag a Bag is at it again. Preston in western KY - Original Message - From: Logan McNatt To: Texas Cavers Cc: Bill Elliott Sent: Monday, April 16, 2012 7:03 AM Subject: [Texascavers] salamanders and Andy Gluesenkamp in today's Austin American-Statesman Once again, salamanders and State Herpetologist Andy Gluesenkamp are in the news. http://www.statesman.com/news/williamson/long-lost-krienke-springs-is-haven-for-salamanders-2306944.html
Re: [Texascavers] New Petzl LED
I found more info at www.petzl.com/nao This is certainly an innovative idea for a headlamp. It's pronounced now, and features something they are calling Reactive Lighting Technology. The professional promo video is over 4 minuets long and includes no footage of the headlamp being used in a cave. I'm curious how well the Reactive Lighting Technology will work in a cave. Could be awesome, or could be frustrating beyond usefulness. Justin On Mon, Apr 16, 2012 at 8:12 PM, Preston Forsythe pns_...@bellsouth.net wrote: In July Petzl will have a new LED out, the NAO, $175, 7 to 355 Lumens, rechargeable Lithium-ion or two AAA in a pinch. That's all I know for now. Info from Climbing magazine. It may give Sten a run for it's money. Preston in western KY - Visit our website: http://texascavers.com To unsubscribe, e-mail: texascavers-unsubscr...@texascavers.com For additional commands, e-mail: texascavers-h...@texascavers.com
Re: [Texascavers] New Petzl LED
The big innovation of the NAO light is that it is supposed to sense the environment and automatically adjust the light output to match. http://www.petzl.com/us/outdoor/headlamps/nao So, for example, if you're in a large passage looking around it will be on high, but if you then look down at your survey book to sketch, it will dim so that you're not blinded by the reflected light. Sounds good in principle, but I suspect there will be situations where the light will not adjust the way you want it to. Sounds like a case of trying to design something to be too smart. What's wrong with manually changing the output as you need to? Mark At 09:12 PM 4/16/2012, Preston Forsythe wrote: In July Petzl will have a new LED out, the NAO, $175, 7 to 355 Lumens, rechargeable Lithium-ion or two AAA in a pinch. That's all I know for now. Info from Climbing magazine. It may give Sten a run for it's money. Preston in western KY Please reply to mmin...@caver.net Permanent email address is mmin...@illinoisalumni.org - Visit our website: http://texascavers.com To unsubscribe, e-mail: texascavers-unsubscr...@texascavers.com For additional commands, e-mail: texascavers-h...@texascavers.com
[Texascavers] UT Grotto meeting Wed April 18
Howdy Caver, You are invited to the UT Grotto meeting - Wednesday April 18th from 7:45PM- 9:00PM University of Texas Campus in 2.48 Painter Hall (156 West 24th Street, Austin TX 78712) http://www.utexas.edu/maps/main/buildings/pai.html Jim Kennedy will present Gypsum Bat Caves of North Texas. Jim recently visited bat caves in the Texas panhandle to gather basic population and habitat data, and to look for signs of the approaching White Nose Syndrome. This area is a vast gypsum plain, extending into Oklahoma, and seldom visited by cavers. There are many undocumented caves, and even some of the major known caves remain unmapped. Join him and your Austin Texas Caver friends for a quick look at the bats and karst of this region. For information on Underground Texas Grotto activities, please see www.utgrotto.org Officer contact, trip reports, event calendar, and new caver training links to beginner trips or vertical rope training are available. Before the meeting, take advantage of Sao Paulo www.saopaulos.net for happy hour specials. This area is the best place to park and meet folks walking over to the meeting. Then after the official meeting, we continue with the decades long tradition to reconvene for burgers, beer, and tall tales of caving at Posse East. www.posse-east.com The UT Grotto Program calendar is wide open and needs you, the caver with photos and a story to share about your adventures, scientific research, or something else really cool. Contact me. Sincerely, Gary Franklin UT Grotto Vice Chair Program Organizer 512-585-6057 v...@utgrotto.org
[SWR] Move over cave radios, neutrino communications underground....
Cavers: Dig this, uh, take a look: http://www.ornl.gov/info/news/pulse/no360/story1.shtml jtml ___ SWR mailing list s...@caver.net http://caver.net/mailman/listinfo/swr_caver.net
Re: [SWR] Move over cave radios, neutrino communications underground....
John, That is way cool. Karl From: John Lyles j...@losalamos.com To: s...@caver.net Sent: Monday, April 16, 2012 1:52 PM Subject: [SWR] Move over cave radios, neutrino communications underground Cavers: Dig this, uh, take a look: http://www.ornl.gov/info/news/pulse/no360/story1.shtml jtml ___ SWR mailing list s...@caver.net http://caver.net/mailman/listinfo/swr_caver.net___ SWR mailing list s...@caver.net http://caver.net/mailman/listinfo/swr_caver.net
[PBSS] April Meeting
April 10th, 2012 Meeting of the PBSS Attendees: Tony Abernathy, Walter Feaster, Matthew Ormsby, Alex Ormsby and Patrick Ray Financial Report: 781.79 Welcome back Walter. We continued the conversation about the need to add Walter to the PBSS bank account so that he could do his treasurering accurately. Given the banks hours Walter would only be able to meet someone to be added to the account during his lunch hour, from 11:30 to 12:30. We discussed him possibly meeting Bill around 12:00 sometimes before the end of April. Bill will be out of town the remainder of the week so the soonest date this could be done would be April 16th. I said I'd call Bill and let him know what we were shooting for to see if we could make it happen this time. Walter gave an account of his current illness. He spent two weeks in the hospital in San Antonio but is back in Midland now. His condition is thrombotic thrombocytopenic purpura. We broke down the words to try and understand the condition but I was unfamiliar with the word purpura (I've since learned it means purple). Essentially, Walter is having unusual clotting in his small blood vessels which leads to a deficiency of platelets (your clotting cells) in the blood stream. As a result bleeding can occur under the skin, which looks like bruising, which is purple. Mystery solved. Unfortunately his kidney is not functioning normally. His quote was, Two weeks in the hospital, kidney quit, back on dialysis, it sucks. We discussed the possibility of a return trip to Blue Quail on either May 5th or 12th. Walter said he was probably free both weekends but Patrick, Alex and myself all have prior commitments. Tony said his wife will be having surgery soon so he also would probably not be able to make the trip. We also began to talk about the SWR but it doesn't look like anyone is going of the attendees so we undiscussed it. I mentioned that we were still waiting to hear back on a date for Abyss but we were shooting for the 1st or 2nd week in June. The meeting was closed with no undue objections at 7:23pm. Matthew Ormsby PBSS President /preThe contents of this electronic mail message and any attachments are confidential, possibly privileged and intended for the addressee(s) only.brOnly the addressee(s) may read, disseminate, retain or otherwise use this message. If received in error, please immediately inform the sender and then delete this message without disclosing its contents to anyone./pre ___ PBSS mailing list p...@caver.net http://caver.net/mailman/listinfo/pbss_caver.net
[Texascavers] salamanders and Andy Gluesenkamp in today's Austin American-Statesman
Once again, salamanders and State Herpetologist Andy Gluesenkamp are in the news. http://www.statesman.com/news/williamson/long-lost-krienke-springs-is-haven-for-salamanders-2306944.html
Re: [Texascavers] salamanders and Andy Gluesenkamp in today's Austin American-Statesman
Ole Wag a Bag is at it again. Preston in western KY - Original Message - From: Logan McNatt To: Texas Cavers Cc: Bill Elliott Sent: Monday, April 16, 2012 7:03 AM Subject: [Texascavers] salamanders and Andy Gluesenkamp in today's Austin American-Statesman Once again, salamanders and State Herpetologist Andy Gluesenkamp are in the news. http://www.statesman.com/news/williamson/long-lost-krienke-springs-is-haven-for-salamanders-2306944.html
[Texascavers] New Petzl LED
In July Petzl will have a new LED out, the NAO, $175, 7 to 355 Lumens, rechargeable Lithium-ion or two AAA in a pinch. That's all I know for now. Info from Climbing magazine. It may give Sten a run for it's money. Preston in western KY
Re: [Texascavers] New Petzl LED
I found more info at www.petzl.com/nao This is certainly an innovative idea for a headlamp. It's pronounced now, and features something they are calling Reactive Lighting Technology. The professional promo video is over 4 minuets long and includes no footage of the headlamp being used in a cave. I'm curious how well the Reactive Lighting Technology will work in a cave. Could be awesome, or could be frustrating beyond usefulness. Justin On Mon, Apr 16, 2012 at 8:12 PM, Preston Forsythe pns_...@bellsouth.net wrote: In July Petzl will have a new LED out, the NAO, $175, 7 to 355 Lumens, rechargeable Lithium-ion or two AAA in a pinch. That's all I know for now. Info from Climbing magazine. It may give Sten a run for it's money. Preston in western KY - Visit our website: http://texascavers.com To unsubscribe, e-mail: texascavers-unsubscr...@texascavers.com For additional commands, e-mail: texascavers-h...@texascavers.com
Re: [Texascavers] New Petzl LED
The big innovation of the NAO light is that it is supposed to sense the environment and automatically adjust the light output to match. http://www.petzl.com/us/outdoor/headlamps/nao So, for example, if you're in a large passage looking around it will be on high, but if you then look down at your survey book to sketch, it will dim so that you're not blinded by the reflected light. Sounds good in principle, but I suspect there will be situations where the light will not adjust the way you want it to. Sounds like a case of trying to design something to be too smart. What's wrong with manually changing the output as you need to? Mark At 09:12 PM 4/16/2012, Preston Forsythe wrote: In July Petzl will have a new LED out, the NAO, $175, 7 to 355 Lumens, rechargeable Lithium-ion or two AAA in a pinch. That's all I know for now. Info from Climbing magazine. It may give Sten a run for it's money. Preston in western KY Please reply to mmin...@caver.net Permanent email address is mmin...@illinoisalumni.org - Visit our website: http://texascavers.com To unsubscribe, e-mail: texascavers-unsubscr...@texascavers.com For additional commands, e-mail: texascavers-h...@texascavers.com
Re: [Texascavers] New Petzl LED
My guess is that it's going to be easy for the sensor to become muddy and it would think that it needs more light, because it's not sensing much (or any, if it's completely clogged). I'll be curious to see what cavers think about it. - Fofo Mark Minton wrote, on 16/4/12 19:16 : The big innovation of the NAO light is that it is supposed to sense the environment and automatically adjust the light output to match. ... Sounds like a case of trying to design something to be too smart. What's wrong with manually changing the output as you need to? Mark Justin Leigh Shaw wrote, on 16/4/12 19:06 : I'm curious how well the Reactive Lighting Technology will work in a cave. Could be awesome, or could be frustrating beyond usefulness. Justin - Visit our website: http://texascavers.com To unsubscribe, e-mail: texascavers-unsubscr...@texascavers.com For additional commands, e-mail: texascavers-h...@texascavers.com
[Texascavers] UT Grotto meeting Wed April 18
Howdy Caver, You are invited to the UT Grotto meeting - Wednesday April 18th from 7:45PM- 9:00PM University of Texas Campus in 2.48 Painter Hall (156 West 24th Street, Austin TX 78712) http://www.utexas.edu/maps/main/buildings/pai.html Jim Kennedy will present Gypsum Bat Caves of North Texas. Jim recently visited bat caves in the Texas panhandle to gather basic population and habitat data, and to look for signs of the approaching White Nose Syndrome. This area is a vast gypsum plain, extending into Oklahoma, and seldom visited by cavers. There are many undocumented caves, and even some of the major known caves remain unmapped. Join him and your Austin Texas Caver friends for a quick look at the bats and karst of this region. For information on Underground Texas Grotto activities, please see www.utgrotto.org Officer contact, trip reports, event calendar, and new caver training links to beginner trips or vertical rope training are available. Before the meeting, take advantage of Sao Paulo www.saopaulos.net for happy hour specials. This area is the best place to park and meet folks walking over to the meeting. Then after the official meeting, we continue with the decades long tradition to reconvene for burgers, beer, and tall tales of caving at Posse East. www.posse-east.com The UT Grotto Program calendar is wide open and needs you, the caver with photos and a story to share about your adventures, scientific research, or something else really cool. Contact me. Sincerely, Gary Franklin UT Grotto Vice Chair Program Organizer 512-585-6057 v...@utgrotto.org
[SWR] Move over cave radios, neutrino communications underground....
Cavers: Dig this, uh, take a look: http://www.ornl.gov/info/news/pulse/no360/story1.shtml jtml ___ SWR mailing list s...@caver.net http://caver.net/mailman/listinfo/swr_caver.net
Re: [SWR] Move over cave radios, neutrino communications underground....
John, That is way cool. Karl From: John Lyles j...@losalamos.com To: s...@caver.net Sent: Monday, April 16, 2012 1:52 PM Subject: [SWR] Move over cave radios, neutrino communications underground Cavers: Dig this, uh, take a look: http://www.ornl.gov/info/news/pulse/no360/story1.shtml jtml ___ SWR mailing list s...@caver.net http://caver.net/mailman/listinfo/swr_caver.net___ SWR mailing list s...@caver.net http://caver.net/mailman/listinfo/swr_caver.net
