[Texascavers] Sunday Hog

2012-12-13 Thread TM Raines

Greetings Friends, Cavers, and Carnivors,

Gill was kind to make the posting below on his Facebook. This Sunday  
we will be slaughtering a large hog, so if you would like to reserve  
an entire leg please call me soon. Otherwise it will be meat by the  
pound.


Seasons Greetings, Terry


Gill Ediger updated his status: HOG KILLING Event: Terry Raines y  
Vico are butchering a large domestic hog Sunday morning and have more  
meat than they need. Terry is offering entire legs and such for $1.75  
a pound to cover most of the cost of feed. For more info call Terry at  
512-466-4319.

Re: [Texascavers] Sunday Hog

2012-12-13 Thread Preston Forsythe
Are you going to smoke it with KY Hickory or Texas Mesquite? Ok, I know which 
wood is best! I haven't seen anyone cook a whole hog in decades here in KY. 
Some involved process out of the Foxfire books and a lot of work boiling 
lifting and dipping and scalding the hog to scrape the hide of hair. That's 
what I remember the last time I was around this. I suppose you are going to do 
some of the above, dig a pit, wrap with something, cover with coals and 
slow cook for 12-20 hours or more? I bet Floyd Collins knew how to cook 
a whole hog. Recently I was thinking about taking on some chickens, ducks, 
burro, and even a cow or two, including a Jersey milk cow and some hogs. But, 
then I realized I would never be able to travel anymore or attend conventions 
due to those daily choresToday gardening is about all we can handle. Wish 
we could be there for the event. I still read Mother Earth News each month.

Cavingly,

Preston
  - Original Message - 
  From: TM Raines 
  To: TexasCavers 
  Sent: Thursday, December 13, 2012 9:48 AM
  Subject: [Texascavers] Sunday Hog


  Greetings Friends, Cavers, and Carnivors,


  Gill was kind to make the posting below on his Facebook. This Sunday we will 
be slaughtering a large hog, so if you would like to reserve an entire leg 
please call me soon. Otherwise it will be meat by the pound.


  Seasons Greetings, Terry




  Gill Ediger updated his status: HOG KILLING Event: Terry Raines y Vico are 
butchering a large domestic hog Sunday morning and have more meat than they 
need. Terry is offering entire legs and such for $1.75 a pound to cover most of 
the cost of feed. For more info call Terry at 512-466-4319.

texascavers Digest 13 Dec 2012 22:00:23 -0000 Issue 1680

2012-12-13 Thread texascavers-digest-help

texascavers Digest 13 Dec 2012 22:00:23 - Issue 1680

Topics (messages 21143 through 21151):

Re: George Veni to speak on Wednesday, December 12 at noon at Edwards Aquifer 
Authority
21143 by: Geary Schindel

greener lithium ion batteries coming?
21144 by: philipmoss.juno.com

WNS Story Map
21145 by: Mark Minton

Sunday Hog
21146 by: TM Raines
21147 by: Preston Forsythe
21148 by: Stefan Creaser

mexico traveling
21149 by: Nancy Weaver
21150 by: Fofo
21151 by: Nico Escamilla

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Folks,

This is a reminder of the Brown Bag Talk today (12/12/12) at high noon.

Geary


Subject: George Veni to speak on Wednesday, December 12 at noon at Edwards 
Aquifer Authority


Edwards Aquifer Philosophical Society -

aka brown bag luncheon
Wednesday, December 12, 2012 at Noon
Edwards Aquifer Authority
Caucus Room
1615 N. St. Mary's Street, San Antonio, TX


Dr. George Veni, Executive Director of the National Cave and Karst Research 
Institute in Carlsbad, New Mexico will be making a presentation titled: The 
National Cave and Karst Research Institute:
From Inner Space to Outer Space

The presentation will be held on Wednesday, December 12, 2012 at high noon in 
the caucus room at the Edwards Aquifer Authority.  These are informal 
presentations so please feel free to bring your lunch.  For directions or 
further information, the Authority may be contacted at 210.222.2204 or 
www.edwardsaquifer.orghttp://www.edwardsaquifer.org/. Note also that this 
talk will be in our new building.  While the address is still 1615 N. St. 
Mary's Street, you must enter the parking lot off of Camden or Quincy Street.

If you are traveling a long distance to the talk, I would recommend that you 
call our receptionist that morning to make sure that the talk is still 
scheduled at the number below.  On very rare occasions, we have had to cancel 
or move the talk.  I apologize for any inconvenience this may cause.

Thank you.

Geary Schindel
Director - Chief Technical Officer
Aquifer Science
Edwards Aquifer Authority
210.222.2204

Presentation Description

The National Cave and Karst Research Institute:
From Inner Space to Outer Space

by
George Veni, Ph.D.
Executive Director

The U.S. Congress created the National Cave and Karst Research Institute 
(NCKRI) in 1998, in partnership with the State of New Mexico and the City of 
Carlsbad, and was mandated to conduct, support, facilitate, and promote 
programs in all aspects of cave and karst research, management, education, data 
archiving, and national and international collaborations. NCKRI is a non-profit 
corporation administered by the New Mexico Institute of Mining and Technology. 
While many of NCKRI's early years were spent building a physical headquarters 
and administrative foundations, it has worked consistently toward its mandates 
at the local, national, and international level. The past couple of years have 
seen substantial growth in activities through a variety of projects that 
include:

 *   The Karst Information Portal: an open access international virtual cave 
and karst library.
 *   Designing state-of-the-art exhibits for NCKRI's National Cave and Karst 
Museum.
 *   Geophysical research on and to prevent collapse of anthropogenic sinkholes 
more than 100 m in diameter.
 *   Humanitarian project to alleviate karst-related flooding problems in 
Guatemala.
 *   Karst aquifer management workshops for educators and managers taught in 
Brazil, Mexico, Texas, and West Virginia.
 *   Nationwide evaluation of cave and karst research, management, and 
education programs at all U.S. National Parks containing caves and/or karst.
 *   Dye tracing in arid karst terrains.
 *   Hosting two national and three international conferences over the next 18 
months.
 *   Geomicrobiological research on the potential for extraterrestrial life.
 *
To learn about these and other NCKRI projects, and on how you might be able to 
partner with NCKRI, come to the lecture. If you can't make it, check out 
www.nckri.orghttp://www.nckri.org.


Biography

Dr. Veni is an internationally recognized hydrogeologist specializing in caves 
and karst terrains. Prior to NCKRI, he owned and served as principal 
investigator of George Veni and Associates for more than 20 years in San 
Antonio. Much of his work has been in Texas, but he has also conducted 
extensive karst research throughout the United States and in several other 
countries. He presently serves as Vice President of Administration for the 
International Union of Speleology and has served as a doctoral committee 
advisor for 

[Texascavers] Government Canyon reminder

2012-12-13 Thread Marvin and Lisa
The next Government Canyon Karst Survey Project trip will take place on the
first weekend of January. Activities will take place on both Saturday and
Sunday. Camping is available. Contact me to set it up.
 
We will meet at 9:00 both mornings at the Volunteer/Research Station. Take
the first right after entering the park. Go through the gate and drive about
a mile to the VRS.
 
Marvin Miller
 
(210) 415-5190
 
 


[Texascavers] Sunday Hog

2012-12-13 Thread TM Raines

Greetings Friends, Cavers, and Carnivors,

Gill was kind to make the posting below on his Facebook. This Sunday  
we will be slaughtering a large hog, so if you would like to reserve  
an entire leg please call me soon. Otherwise it will be meat by the  
pound.


Seasons Greetings, Terry


Gill Ediger updated his status: HOG KILLING Event: Terry Raines y  
Vico are butchering a large domestic hog Sunday morning and have more  
meat than they need. Terry is offering entire legs and such for $1.75  
a pound to cover most of the cost of feed. For more info call Terry at  
512-466-4319.

Re: [Texascavers] Sunday Hog

2012-12-13 Thread Preston Forsythe
Are you going to smoke it with KY Hickory or Texas Mesquite? Ok, I know which 
wood is best! I haven't seen anyone cook a whole hog in decades here in KY. 
Some involved process out of the Foxfire books and a lot of work boiling 
lifting and dipping and scalding the hog to scrape the hide of hair. That's 
what I remember the last time I was around this. I suppose you are going to do 
some of the above, dig a pit, wrap with something, cover with coals and 
slow cook for 12-20 hours or more? I bet Floyd Collins knew how to cook 
a whole hog. Recently I was thinking about taking on some chickens, ducks, 
burro, and even a cow or two, including a Jersey milk cow and some hogs. But, 
then I realized I would never be able to travel anymore or attend conventions 
due to those daily choresToday gardening is about all we can handle. Wish 
we could be there for the event. I still read Mother Earth News each month.

Cavingly,

Preston
  - Original Message - 
  From: TM Raines 
  To: TexasCavers 
  Sent: Thursday, December 13, 2012 9:48 AM
  Subject: [Texascavers] Sunday Hog


  Greetings Friends, Cavers, and Carnivors,


  Gill was kind to make the posting below on his Facebook. This Sunday we will 
be slaughtering a large hog, so if you would like to reserve an entire leg 
please call me soon. Otherwise it will be meat by the pound.


  Seasons Greetings, Terry




  Gill Ediger updated his status: HOG KILLING Event: Terry Raines y Vico are 
butchering a large domestic hog Sunday morning and have more meat than they 
need. Terry is offering entire legs and such for $1.75 a pound to cover most of 
the cost of feed. For more info call Terry at 512-466-4319.

RE: [Texascavers] Sunday Hog

2012-12-13 Thread Stefan Creaser
Preston,

Hickory is best, but not easy to come by here. I bought a couple of bags a few 
years ago for $25 each. Could do with a truck load if you're ever coming over 
this way ;-)

Cheers,
Stefan.


From: Preston Forsythe [mailto:pns_...@bellsouth.net]
Sent: Thursday, December 13, 2012 10:13 AM
To: TM Raines; TexasCavers
Subject: Re: [Texascavers] Sunday Hog

Are you going to smoke it with KY Hickory or Texas Mesquite? Ok, I know which 
wood is best! I haven't seen anyone cook a whole hog in decades here in KY. 
Some involved process out of the Foxfire books and a lot of work boiling 
lifting and dipping and scalding the hog to scrape the hide of hair. That's 
what I remember the last time I was around this. I suppose you are going to do 
some of the above, dig a pit, wrap with something, cover with coals and 
slow cook for 12-20 hours or more? I bet Floyd Collins knew how to cook 
a whole hog. Recently I was thinking about taking on some chickens, ducks, 
burro, and even a cow or two, including a Jersey milk cow and some hogs. But, 
then I realized I would never be able to travel anymore or attend conventions 
due to those daily choresToday gardening is about all we can handle. Wish 
we could be there for the event. I still read Mother Earth News each month.

Cavingly,

Preston
- Original Message -
From: TM Rainesmailto:tmrai...@amcs.org
To: TexasCaversmailto:texascavers@texascavers.com
Sent: Thursday, December 13, 2012 9:48 AM
Subject: [Texascavers] Sunday Hog

Greetings Friends, Cavers, and Carnivors,

Gill was kind to make the posting below on his Facebook. This Sunday we will be 
slaughtering a large hog, so if you would like to reserve an entire leg please 
call me soon. Otherwise it will be meat by the pound.

Seasons Greetings, Terry


Gill 
Edigerhttp://www.facebook.com/n/?gill.edigermid=7329d99G548fab82G5915010G79bcode=1.1355325547.AbmaSR00iu22OKrPn_m=tmraines%40amcs.org
 updated his status: HOG KILLING Event: Terry Raines y Vico are butchering a 
large domestic hog Sunday morning and have more meat than they need. Terry is 
offering entire legs and such for $1.75 a pound to cover most of the cost of 
feed. For more info call Terry at 512-466-4319.

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[Texascavers] mexico traveling

2012-12-13 Thread Nancy Weaver
Thursday Dec 6th Brigit Alexander, her 16 yr old daughter Mimi and 
school friend Teresa, and I drove to Real de Catorce for a multiday 
celebration of Humberto Fernandez' 70th bday.  The drive down was 
swift and easy and uneventful.  A bit bizarrely, before being allowed 
to enter the bridge on the US side, each car was being searched with 
that nifty flashlight and mirror on a stick.  When I asked why - we 
were sonorously told that 'bad things were going in and out of 
Mexico'.  Then we were quizzed as to whether we knew what they were. 
Brigit won points for quessing drugs were coming in.  It was my 
opinion that bad manners were being exported, but no, turns out guns 
are being taken into Mexico strapped underneath tourist cars.  Who 
knew.  We asked when this search had started and were informed 'it 
was always this way'.  Quess we were just lucky all those border 
crossings over the past 30 years never to see this.


We had a short stop on the other side for papers for Teresa.  While 
waiting in the parking lot, Mimi and I noticed a tv crew interviewing 
several of the other drivers.  Turns out they were doing a story 
about campesinos traveling in caravans for safety.  They were pretty 
impressed that 4 gringas were traveling alone and wanted to interview 
us.  We wanted to get going and saw no reason to advertise our 
presence on tv.  Most of the autopista traffic is trucks, probably 
80- 90%.  Made it to Real by dark, and got up before dawn to hike to 
the peak of the sacred mountain for a sunrise Huichol ceremony.  Then 
the partying started in earnest with dinners, dances, drinks, live 
bands, and spectacular fireworks for the next 2 days.  There were 
about 80 guests who had bussed, flown and driven (and in the case of 
the 4 Huichol, walked) in for the celebration.  Hollywood was 
represented by the director and camera people of The Mexican and 
Pirates of the Caribeean.  As usual there were at least 4 languages 
being spoken.


Simultaneously, the town was celebrating one of their biggest 
holidays - the procession of the virgin, a weekend of promenading the 
virgins portrait thru the streets from one church to the other, then 
back, wild ringing of church bells, dancing in feathered sequined 
costumes (not sure what that was about) and live music.   There was a 
group of about a dozen ATV's at the hotel next to Brigits.   And 
perhaps 30 Harley riders at the Hotel Mina Real.  A good time was 
apparently had by all.  Mimi Teresa and I drove down to the partially 
completed Museo del Desierto, an ambitious underground complex with a 
fancy road, enormous parking lot, elaborate sculptures scattered 
across the creosote and cactus.  and completely abandoned.  Worth a 
visit, very UFOish, and protected by numerous peyote plants.


On the drive home, we decided to try Colombia, since none of us had 
been there for several years and we were intrigued by the flashy 
billboards advertising crossing there.  The Mexicans are building a 
multi lane divided highway parallel to the river and there are 
enormous complexes of factories, perhaps maquilidores?  along the 
way.  We were briefly dismayed by 2 long lines of trucks and only 
one other passenger car, idling.  But Brigit opted past all the 
vehicles, driving up onto the grass to get to the vehicle permit 
booth to turn in her sticker.  It was still trucks as far as we could 
see, but the Mexicans promptly opened another lane and waved us past 
everyone and onto the bridge.  A delightful gesture.


The US side as ever was far less friendly and seemed irritated that a 
passenger car had entered there interrupting their inactivity. 
Finally after forbidding Brigit to get out of the car, and 
questioning us numerous times about our occupations, why we were in 
Mexico, etc. they got bored and waved us on as well.



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Re: [Texascavers] mexico traveling

2012-12-13 Thread Fofo

Cool trip report! Thanks for sharing it.

I'm glad you had a great time in Mexico. And yes, they're starting to be 
more proactive about searching for guns entering Mexico (it used to be 
that there was almost no search when going from the US to Mexico).


- Fofo

On 13/12/12 12:36, Nancy Weaver wrote:

Thursday Dec 6th Brigit Alexander, her 16 yr old daughter Mimi and
school friend Teresa, and I drove to Real de Catorce for a multiday
celebration of Humberto Fernandez' 70th bday.  The drive down was swift
and easy and uneventful.  A bit bizarrely, before being allowed to enter
the bridge on the US side, each car was being searched with that nifty
flashlight and mirror on a stick.  When I asked why - we were sonorously
told that 'bad things were going in and out of Mexico'.  Then we were
quizzed as to whether we knew what they were. Brigit won points for
quessing drugs were coming in.  It was my opinion that bad manners were
being exported, but no, turns out guns are being taken into Mexico
strapped underneath tourist cars.  Who knew.  We asked when this search
had started and were informed 'it was always this way'.  Quess we were
just lucky all those border crossings over the past 30 years never to
see this.

We had a short stop on the other side for papers for Teresa.  While
waiting in the parking lot, Mimi and I noticed a tv crew interviewing
several of the other drivers.  Turns out they were doing a story about
campesinos traveling in caravans for safety.  They were pretty impressed
that 4 gringas were traveling alone and wanted to interview us.  We
wanted to get going and saw no reason to advertise our presence on tv.
Most of the autopista traffic is trucks, probably 80- 90%.  Made it to
Real by dark, and got up before dawn to hike to the peak of the sacred
mountain for a sunrise Huichol ceremony.  Then the partying started in
earnest with dinners, dances, drinks, live bands, and spectacular
fireworks for the next 2 days.  There were about 80 guests who had
bussed, flown and driven (and in the case of the 4 Huichol, walked) in
for the celebration.  Hollywood was represented by the director and
camera people of The Mexican and Pirates of the Caribeean.  As usual
there were at least 4 languages being spoken.

Simultaneously, the town was celebrating one of their biggest holidays -
the procession of the virgin, a weekend of promenading the virgins
portrait thru the streets from one church to the other, then back, wild
ringing of church bells, dancing in feathered sequined costumes (not
sure what that was about) and live music.   There was a group of about a
dozen ATV's at the hotel next to Brigits.   And perhaps 30 Harley riders
at the Hotel Mina Real.  A good time was apparently had by all.  Mimi
Teresa and I drove down to the partially completed Museo del Desierto,
an ambitious underground complex with a fancy road, enormous parking
lot, elaborate sculptures scattered across the creosote and cactus.  and
completely abandoned.  Worth a visit, very UFOish, and protected by
numerous peyote plants.

On the drive home, we decided to try Colombia, since none of us had been
there for several years and we were intrigued by the flashy billboards
advertising crossing there.  The Mexicans are building a multi lane
divided highway parallel to the river and there are enormous complexes
of factories, perhaps maquilidores?  along the way.  We were briefly
dismayed by 2 long lines of trucks and only one other passenger car,
idling.  But Brigit opted past all the vehicles, driving up onto the
grass to get to the vehicle permit booth to turn in her sticker.  It was
still trucks as far as we could see, but the Mexicans promptly opened
another lane and waved us past everyone and onto the bridge.  A
delightful gesture.

The US side as ever was far less friendly and seemed irritated that a
passenger car had entered there interrupting their inactivity. Finally
after forbidding Brigit to get out of the car, and questioning us
numerous times about our occupations, why we were in Mexico, etc. they
got bored and waved us on as well.


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texascavers Digest 13 Dec 2012 22:00:23 -0000 Issue 1680

2012-12-13 Thread texascavers-digest-help

texascavers Digest 13 Dec 2012 22:00:23 - Issue 1680

Topics (messages 21143 through 21151):

Re: George Veni to speak on Wednesday, December 12 at noon at Edwards Aquifer 
Authority
21143 by: Geary Schindel

greener lithium ion batteries coming?
21144 by: philipmoss.juno.com

WNS Story Map
21145 by: Mark Minton

Sunday Hog
21146 by: TM Raines
21147 by: Preston Forsythe
21148 by: Stefan Creaser

mexico traveling
21149 by: Nancy Weaver
21150 by: Fofo
21151 by: Nico Escamilla

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Folks,

This is a reminder of the Brown Bag Talk today (12/12/12) at high noon.

Geary


Subject: George Veni to speak on Wednesday, December 12 at noon at Edwards 
Aquifer Authority


Edwards Aquifer Philosophical Society -

aka brown bag luncheon
Wednesday, December 12, 2012 at Noon
Edwards Aquifer Authority
Caucus Room
1615 N. St. Mary's Street, San Antonio, TX


Dr. George Veni, Executive Director of the National Cave and Karst Research 
Institute in Carlsbad, New Mexico will be making a presentation titled: The 
National Cave and Karst Research Institute:
From Inner Space to Outer Space

The presentation will be held on Wednesday, December 12, 2012 at high noon in 
the caucus room at the Edwards Aquifer Authority.  These are informal 
presentations so please feel free to bring your lunch.  For directions or 
further information, the Authority may be contacted at 210.222.2204 or 
www.edwardsaquifer.orghttp://www.edwardsaquifer.org/. Note also that this 
talk will be in our new building.  While the address is still 1615 N. St. 
Mary's Street, you must enter the parking lot off of Camden or Quincy Street.

If you are traveling a long distance to the talk, I would recommend that you 
call our receptionist that morning to make sure that the talk is still 
scheduled at the number below.  On very rare occasions, we have had to cancel 
or move the talk.  I apologize for any inconvenience this may cause.

Thank you.

Geary Schindel
Director - Chief Technical Officer
Aquifer Science
Edwards Aquifer Authority
210.222.2204

Presentation Description

The National Cave and Karst Research Institute:
From Inner Space to Outer Space

by
George Veni, Ph.D.
Executive Director

The U.S. Congress created the National Cave and Karst Research Institute 
(NCKRI) in 1998, in partnership with the State of New Mexico and the City of 
Carlsbad, and was mandated to conduct, support, facilitate, and promote 
programs in all aspects of cave and karst research, management, education, data 
archiving, and national and international collaborations. NCKRI is a non-profit 
corporation administered by the New Mexico Institute of Mining and Technology. 
While many of NCKRI's early years were spent building a physical headquarters 
and administrative foundations, it has worked consistently toward its mandates 
at the local, national, and international level. The past couple of years have 
seen substantial growth in activities through a variety of projects that 
include:

 *   The Karst Information Portal: an open access international virtual cave 
and karst library.
 *   Designing state-of-the-art exhibits for NCKRI's National Cave and Karst 
Museum.
 *   Geophysical research on and to prevent collapse of anthropogenic sinkholes 
more than 100 m in diameter.
 *   Humanitarian project to alleviate karst-related flooding problems in 
Guatemala.
 *   Karst aquifer management workshops for educators and managers taught in 
Brazil, Mexico, Texas, and West Virginia.
 *   Nationwide evaluation of cave and karst research, management, and 
education programs at all U.S. National Parks containing caves and/or karst.
 *   Dye tracing in arid karst terrains.
 *   Hosting two national and three international conferences over the next 18 
months.
 *   Geomicrobiological research on the potential for extraterrestrial life.
 *
To learn about these and other NCKRI projects, and on how you might be able to 
partner with NCKRI, come to the lecture. If you can't make it, check out 
www.nckri.orghttp://www.nckri.org.


Biography

Dr. Veni is an internationally recognized hydrogeologist specializing in caves 
and karst terrains. Prior to NCKRI, he owned and served as principal 
investigator of George Veni and Associates for more than 20 years in San 
Antonio. Much of his work has been in Texas, but he has also conducted 
extensive karst research throughout the United States and in several other 
countries. He presently serves as Vice President of Administration for the 
International Union of Speleology and has served as a doctoral committee 
advisor for 

[Texascavers] Government Canyon reminder

2012-12-13 Thread Marvin and Lisa
The next Government Canyon Karst Survey Project trip will take place on the
first weekend of January. Activities will take place on both Saturday and
Sunday. Camping is available. Contact me to set it up.
 
We will meet at 9:00 both mornings at the Volunteer/Research Station. Take
the first right after entering the park. Go through the gate and drive about
a mile to the VRS.
 
Marvin Miller
 
(210) 415-5190
 
 


[Texascavers] Sunday Hog

2012-12-13 Thread TM Raines

Greetings Friends, Cavers, and Carnivors,

Gill was kind to make the posting below on his Facebook. This Sunday  
we will be slaughtering a large hog, so if you would like to reserve  
an entire leg please call me soon. Otherwise it will be meat by the  
pound.


Seasons Greetings, Terry


Gill Ediger updated his status: HOG KILLING Event: Terry Raines y  
Vico are butchering a large domestic hog Sunday morning and have more  
meat than they need. Terry is offering entire legs and such for $1.75  
a pound to cover most of the cost of feed. For more info call Terry at  
512-466-4319.

Re: [Texascavers] Sunday Hog

2012-12-13 Thread Preston Forsythe
Are you going to smoke it with KY Hickory or Texas Mesquite? Ok, I know which 
wood is best! I haven't seen anyone cook a whole hog in decades here in KY. 
Some involved process out of the Foxfire books and a lot of work boiling 
lifting and dipping and scalding the hog to scrape the hide of hair. That's 
what I remember the last time I was around this. I suppose you are going to do 
some of the above, dig a pit, wrap with something, cover with coals and 
slow cook for 12-20 hours or more? I bet Floyd Collins knew how to cook 
a whole hog. Recently I was thinking about taking on some chickens, ducks, 
burro, and even a cow or two, including a Jersey milk cow and some hogs. But, 
then I realized I would never be able to travel anymore or attend conventions 
due to those daily choresToday gardening is about all we can handle. Wish 
we could be there for the event. I still read Mother Earth News each month.

Cavingly,

Preston
  - Original Message - 
  From: TM Raines 
  To: TexasCavers 
  Sent: Thursday, December 13, 2012 9:48 AM
  Subject: [Texascavers] Sunday Hog


  Greetings Friends, Cavers, and Carnivors,


  Gill was kind to make the posting below on his Facebook. This Sunday we will 
be slaughtering a large hog, so if you would like to reserve an entire leg 
please call me soon. Otherwise it will be meat by the pound.


  Seasons Greetings, Terry




  Gill Ediger updated his status: HOG KILLING Event: Terry Raines y Vico are 
butchering a large domestic hog Sunday morning and have more meat than they 
need. Terry is offering entire legs and such for $1.75 a pound to cover most of 
the cost of feed. For more info call Terry at 512-466-4319.

Re: [Texascavers] mexico traveling

2012-12-13 Thread Nico Escamilla
About 3 times out of ten I've been searched on my way to Mexico from Tx,
one in particular where the guy was asking me a bunch of questions and
tried to catch me off guard: so how long did you tell me that you have been
a lawyer for?
I never said I was a lawyer, officer. Where did that come from?
Go ahead, be safe

El jueves, 13 de diciembre de 2012, Fofo escribió:

 Cool trip report! Thanks for sharing it.

 I'm glad you had a great time in Mexico. And yes, they're starting to be
 more proactive about searching for guns entering Mexico (it used to be that
 there was almost no search when going from the US to Mexico).

 - Fofo

 On 13/12/12 12:36, Nancy Weaver wrote:

 Thursday Dec 6th Brigit Alexander, her 16 yr old daughter Mimi and
 school friend Teresa, and I drove to Real de Catorce for a multiday
 celebration of Humberto Fernandez' 70th bday.  The drive down was swift
 and easy and uneventful.  A bit bizarrely, before being allowed to enter
 the bridge on the US side, each car was being searched with that nifty
 flashlight and mirror on a stick.  When I asked why - we were sonorously
 told that 'bad things were going in and out of Mexico'.  Then we were
 quizzed as to whether we knew what they were. Brigit won points for
 quessing drugs were coming in.  It was my opinion that bad manners were
 being exported, but no, turns out guns are being taken into Mexico
 strapped underneath tourist cars.  Who knew.  We asked when this search
 had started and were informed 'it was always this way'.  Quess we were
 just lucky all those border crossings over the past 30 years never to
 see this.

 We had a short stop on the other side for papers for Teresa.  While
 waiting in the parking lot, Mimi and I noticed a tv crew interviewing
 several of the other drivers.  Turns out they were doing a story about
 campesinos traveling in caravans for safety.  They were pretty impressed
 that 4 gringas were traveling alone and wanted to interview us.  We
 wanted to get going and saw no reason to advertise our presence on tv.
 Most of the autopista traffic is trucks, probably 80- 90%.  Made it to
 Real by dark, and got up before dawn to hike to the peak of the sacred
 mountain for a sunrise Huichol ceremony.  Then the partying started in
 earnest with dinners, dances, drinks, live bands, and spectacular
 fireworks for the next 2 days.  There were about 80 guests who had
 bussed, flown and driven (and in the case of the 4 Huichol, walked) in
 for the celebration.  Hollywood was represented by the director and
 camera people of The Mexican and Pirates of the Caribeean.  As usual
 there were at least 4 languages being spoken.

 Simultaneously, the town was celebrating one of their biggest holidays -
 the procession of the virgin, a weekend of promenading the virgins
 portrait thru the streets from one church to the other, then back, wild
 ringing of church bells, dancing in feathered sequined costumes (not
 sure what that was about) and live music.   There was a group of about a
 dozen ATV's at the hotel next to Brigits.   And perhaps 30 Harley riders
 at the Hotel Mina Real.  A good time was apparently had by all.  Mimi
 Teresa and I drove down to the partially completed Museo del Desierto,
 an ambitious underground complex with a fancy road, enormous parking
 lot, elaborate sculptures scattered across the creosote and cactus.  and
 completely abandoned.  Worth a visit, very UFOish, and protected by
 numerous peyote plants.

 On the drive home, we decided to try Colombia, since none of us had been
 there for several years and we were intrigued by the flashy billboards
 advertising crossing there.  The Mexicans are building a multi lane
 divided highway parallel to the river and there are enormous complexes
 of factories, perhaps maquilidores?  along the way.  We were briefly
 dismayed by 2 long lines of trucks and only one other passenger car,
 idling.  But Brigit opted past all the vehicles, driving up onto the
 grass to get to the vehicle permit booth to turn in her sticker.  It was
 still trucks as far as we could see, but the Mexicans promptly opened
 another lane and waved us past everyone and onto the bridge.  A
 delightful gesture.

 The US side as ever was far less friendly and seemed irritated that a
 passenger car had entered there interrupting their inactivity. Finally
 after forbidding Brigit to get out of the car, and questioning us
 numerous times about our occupations, why we were in Mexico, etc. they
 got bored and waved us on as well.


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texascavers Digest 13 Dec 2012 22:00:23 -0000 Issue 1680

2012-12-13 Thread texascavers-digest-help

texascavers Digest 13 Dec 2012 22:00:23 - Issue 1680

Topics (messages 21143 through 21151):

Re: George Veni to speak on Wednesday, December 12 at noon at Edwards Aquifer 
Authority
21143 by: Geary Schindel

greener lithium ion batteries coming?
21144 by: philipmoss.juno.com

WNS Story Map
21145 by: Mark Minton

Sunday Hog
21146 by: TM Raines
21147 by: Preston Forsythe
21148 by: Stefan Creaser

mexico traveling
21149 by: Nancy Weaver
21150 by: Fofo
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Folks,

This is a reminder of the Brown Bag Talk today (12/12/12) at high noon.

Geary


Subject: George Veni to speak on Wednesday, December 12 at noon at Edwards 
Aquifer Authority


Edwards Aquifer Philosophical Society -

aka brown bag luncheon
Wednesday, December 12, 2012 at Noon
Edwards Aquifer Authority
Caucus Room
1615 N. St. Mary's Street, San Antonio, TX


Dr. George Veni, Executive Director of the National Cave and Karst Research 
Institute in Carlsbad, New Mexico will be making a presentation titled: The 
National Cave and Karst Research Institute:
From Inner Space to Outer Space

The presentation will be held on Wednesday, December 12, 2012 at high noon in 
the caucus room at the Edwards Aquifer Authority.  These are informal 
presentations so please feel free to bring your lunch.  For directions or 
further information, the Authority may be contacted at 210.222.2204 or 
www.edwardsaquifer.orghttp://www.edwardsaquifer.org/. Note also that this 
talk will be in our new building.  While the address is still 1615 N. St. 
Mary's Street, you must enter the parking lot off of Camden or Quincy Street.

If you are traveling a long distance to the talk, I would recommend that you 
call our receptionist that morning to make sure that the talk is still 
scheduled at the number below.  On very rare occasions, we have had to cancel 
or move the talk.  I apologize for any inconvenience this may cause.

Thank you.

Geary Schindel
Director - Chief Technical Officer
Aquifer Science
Edwards Aquifer Authority
210.222.2204

Presentation Description

The National Cave and Karst Research Institute:
From Inner Space to Outer Space

by
George Veni, Ph.D.
Executive Director

The U.S. Congress created the National Cave and Karst Research Institute 
(NCKRI) in 1998, in partnership with the State of New Mexico and the City of 
Carlsbad, and was mandated to conduct, support, facilitate, and promote 
programs in all aspects of cave and karst research, management, education, data 
archiving, and national and international collaborations. NCKRI is a non-profit 
corporation administered by the New Mexico Institute of Mining and Technology. 
While many of NCKRI's early years were spent building a physical headquarters 
and administrative foundations, it has worked consistently toward its mandates 
at the local, national, and international level. The past couple of years have 
seen substantial growth in activities through a variety of projects that 
include:

 *   The Karst Information Portal: an open access international virtual cave 
and karst library.
 *   Designing state-of-the-art exhibits for NCKRI's National Cave and Karst 
Museum.
 *   Geophysical research on and to prevent collapse of anthropogenic sinkholes 
more than 100 m in diameter.
 *   Humanitarian project to alleviate karst-related flooding problems in 
Guatemala.
 *   Karst aquifer management workshops for educators and managers taught in 
Brazil, Mexico, Texas, and West Virginia.
 *   Nationwide evaluation of cave and karst research, management, and 
education programs at all U.S. National Parks containing caves and/or karst.
 *   Dye tracing in arid karst terrains.
 *   Hosting two national and three international conferences over the next 18 
months.
 *   Geomicrobiological research on the potential for extraterrestrial life.
 *
To learn about these and other NCKRI projects, and on how you might be able to 
partner with NCKRI, come to the lecture. If you can't make it, check out 
www.nckri.orghttp://www.nckri.org.


Biography

Dr. Veni is an internationally recognized hydrogeologist specializing in caves 
and karst terrains. Prior to NCKRI, he owned and served as principal 
investigator of George Veni and Associates for more than 20 years in San 
Antonio. Much of his work has been in Texas, but he has also conducted 
extensive karst research throughout the United States and in several other 
countries. He presently serves as Vice President of Administration for the 
International Union of Speleology and has served as a doctoral committee 
advisor for 

[Texascavers] Government Canyon reminder

2012-12-13 Thread Marvin and Lisa
The next Government Canyon Karst Survey Project trip will take place on the
first weekend of January. Activities will take place on both Saturday and
Sunday. Camping is available. Contact me to set it up.
 
We will meet at 9:00 both mornings at the Volunteer/Research Station. Take
the first right after entering the park. Go through the gate and drive about
a mile to the VRS.
 
Marvin Miller
 
(210) 415-5190