[Texascavers] UT Grotto Meeting May 1st
Howdy Texas Cavers, At this Wednesday's UT Grotto meeting, we are delighted to have Peter Sprouse share the latest and greatest news about the 2013 mapping efforts around Playa del Carmen, including some exciting cave diving developments over the past week. Dave Bunnell provided some spectacular photos. UT Grotto meeting - Wednesday from 7:45PM- 9:00PM University of Texas Campus in 2.48 Painter Hall (156 West 24th Street, Austin TX 78712) http://www.utexas.edu/maps/main/buildings/pai.html For information on Underground Texas Grotto activities, please see www.utgrotto.org Before the meeting, take advantage of Sao Paulo www.saopaulos.net for happy hour specials. This area is the best place to park and meet folks walking over to the meeting. Then after the official meeting, we continue with the decades long tradition to reconvene for burgers, beer, and tall tales of caving at Posse East. www.posse-east.com Cavingly, Andrea Croskrey UT Grotto Vice Chair
texascavers Digest 30 Apr 2013 05:54:07 -0000 Issue 1746
texascavers Digest 30 Apr 2013 05:54:07 - Issue 1746 Topics (messages 21664 through 21671): Caves in the news 21664 by: David Re: Airman's Cave related 21665 by: Preston Forsythe 21666 by: Heather Tucek looking for Susie Lasko 21667 by: Katherine Arens Re: looking for Susie Lasko - --FOUND, thank you all 21668 by: Katherine Arens UT Grotto Meeting May 1st 21669 by: Andrea Croskrey 2013 Caver Beach Party - update 21670 by: David A web-based Texas Caving Encyclopedia ? 21671 by: David Administrivia: To subscribe to the digest, e-mail: texascavers-digest-subscr...@texascavers.com To unsubscribe from the digest, e-mail: texascavers-digest-unsubscr...@texascavers.com To post to the list, e-mail: texascavers@texascavers.com -- ---BeginMessage--- I am off work tonight and just web-surfing for interesting new stories, so that is why I am posting this. Grutas de Garcia was in the news last week. One of the cable car operators was apparently telling the tourist that if they don't want to walk down the mountain, they could pay him cash to take the gondola back down ( even though they had not purchased a gondola ticket ). Apparently, management did not know he was doing this. One article called this fee a moche,I guess that is slang for embezzled fee.Please feel free to correct me on that. http://www.milenio.com/media/5d0/9552083648996bbab389366efae695d0_int470.jpg David Locklear ---End Message--- ---BeginMessage--- Ah, Airman's and memories of my classic trip to the very back of the cave with Bill Russell, a few years ago. Who can forget the Birth Canal, the One-Legged Man and to me the most famous passage, the Wire Wiggle. It looked like the cave now has a gate. Does the UTG control the key? I thought the video was pretty good for the 10 minute run. The primary light must have been a Mummut. A very bright spotlight, too bright for the small passage. Hope to see you in PA in early Aug...Preston in Western KY - - Original Message - From: David To: Cavers Texas Sent: Saturday, April 27, 2013 11:19 PM Subject: [Texascavers] Airman's Cave related One of the newest caving related videos on YouTube was uploaded last week and is an amateur helmet-cam video of the first section of Airman's Cave. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RHz-KatiuUE Their is no narrative, but a few captions are added, which is a good thing. There are three 70's mellow-rock songs for background music ( Crosby-Stills-Nash, Fleetwood Mac, Eric Clapton ) There are at least 4 guys and they seem equipped enough for a trip like the one they plan to go on. And maybe there is somebody waiting near the entrance in case they don't come out.The videographer writes that this is his first Airman's trip. I am sure he only posted this to show all his friends and subscribers and is not meant to be scrutinized by caver video enthusiast.But just for the sake of it, I would like to point out the helmet-cam is too shaky, the spot-light in the center of then entire video is annoying.The captions should mention that this is a warm dry dusty cave, and lightweight cotton clothing is desired.And since you might be pushing your helmet in front of you a few times, it is better to use a crappy old lightweight helmet.And that you don't need a fancy headlamp, but it needs to be reliable and have extra batteries. I haven't been to the cave in 20 years.I wish I could have gone there when I was a teenager, because I would have enjoyed it a whole lot back then. Had I seen this video as a teenager, it would have most likely inspired me to go there. David Locklear---End Message--- ---BeginMessage--- The two guys in this film tagged along with the Cowtown Grotto trip, and turned around right after the first long crawl, because one of the boys got scared. They don't know anything about taking off their helmets (which, for a trip to the Aggie Art Gallerie and back, they shouldn't need to). Preston, The City of Austin controls the key. These kids went in last Saturday, which was the day of the Open House. On 28 April 2013 08:30, Preston Forsythe pns_...@bellsouth.net wrote: ** Ah, Airman's and memories of my classic trip to the very back of the cave with Bill Russell, a few years ago. Who can forget the Birth Canal, the One-Legged Man and to me the most famous passage, the Wire Wiggle. It looked like the cave now has a gate. Does the UTG control the key? I thought the video was pretty good for the 10 minute run. The primary light must have been a Mummut. A very bright spotlight, too bright for the small passage. Hope to see you in PA in early Aug...Preston in Western KY
[Texascavers] UT Grotto Meeting May 1st
Howdy Texas Cavers, At this Wednesday's UT Grotto meeting, we are delighted to have Peter Sprouse share the latest and greatest news about the 2013 mapping efforts around Playa del Carmen, including some exciting cave diving developments over the past week. Dave Bunnell provided some spectacular photos. UT Grotto meeting - Wednesday from 7:45PM- 9:00PM University of Texas Campus in 2.48 Painter Hall (156 West 24th Street, Austin TX 78712) http://www.utexas.edu/maps/main/buildings/pai.html For information on Underground Texas Grotto activities, please see www.utgrotto.org Before the meeting, take advantage of Sao Paulo www.saopaulos.net for happy hour specials. This area is the best place to park and meet folks walking over to the meeting. Then after the official meeting, we continue with the decades long tradition to reconvene for burgers, beer, and tall tales of caving at Posse East. www.posse-east.com Cavingly, Andrea Croskrey UT Grotto Vice Chair
[Texascavers] 2013 Caver Beach Party - update
The date for the beach party is May 31, June 1st, and June 2nd. I have a small cabin on the beach for those 3 days. Other friends of mine in the NaturFest group have cabins rented also. Here is a link: http://www.brazoria-county.com/parks/quintana/Cabins.html This is the nicest beach in east Texas, except for 1 small problem. There is an enormous power plant about a 1/2 mile from the location. They do not allow vehicles on the beach or camp-fires. It is pristine as you are going to find in this region. The big deal is that the cabins are right behind the dunes facing the waves, and the cabins are very nice and not too expensive. You can camp in a tent, or maybe sleep on the floor in my cabin. I should have the cabin to myself Sunday night, so anyone is welcome to stay Sunday night in the cabin. I would bet that we have a live musician perform some acoustic Mexican music. We did this last year, and it was a success. The location is about 20 minutes south of Freeport, Texas. Google Map coordinates: 28.934153,-95.301536 David Locklear 281-995-8487 ( text-line )
texascavers Digest 30 Apr 2013 05:54:07 -0000 Issue 1746
texascavers Digest 30 Apr 2013 05:54:07 - Issue 1746 Topics (messages 21664 through 21671): Caves in the news 21664 by: David Re: Airman's Cave related 21665 by: Preston Forsythe 21666 by: Heather Tucek looking for Susie Lasko 21667 by: Katherine Arens Re: looking for Susie Lasko - --FOUND, thank you all 21668 by: Katherine Arens UT Grotto Meeting May 1st 21669 by: Andrea Croskrey 2013 Caver Beach Party - update 21670 by: David A web-based Texas Caving Encyclopedia ? 21671 by: David Administrivia: To subscribe to the digest, e-mail: texascavers-digest-subscr...@texascavers.com To unsubscribe from the digest, e-mail: texascavers-digest-unsubscr...@texascavers.com To post to the list, e-mail: texascavers@texascavers.com -- ---BeginMessage--- I am off work tonight and just web-surfing for interesting new stories, so that is why I am posting this. Grutas de Garcia was in the news last week. One of the cable car operators was apparently telling the tourist that if they don't want to walk down the mountain, they could pay him cash to take the gondola back down ( even though they had not purchased a gondola ticket ). Apparently, management did not know he was doing this. One article called this fee a moche,I guess that is slang for embezzled fee.Please feel free to correct me on that. http://www.milenio.com/media/5d0/9552083648996bbab389366efae695d0_int470.jpg David Locklear ---End Message--- ---BeginMessage--- Ah, Airman's and memories of my classic trip to the very back of the cave with Bill Russell, a few years ago. Who can forget the Birth Canal, the One-Legged Man and to me the most famous passage, the Wire Wiggle. It looked like the cave now has a gate. Does the UTG control the key? I thought the video was pretty good for the 10 minute run. The primary light must have been a Mummut. A very bright spotlight, too bright for the small passage. Hope to see you in PA in early Aug...Preston in Western KY - - Original Message - From: David To: Cavers Texas Sent: Saturday, April 27, 2013 11:19 PM Subject: [Texascavers] Airman's Cave related One of the newest caving related videos on YouTube was uploaded last week and is an amateur helmet-cam video of the first section of Airman's Cave. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RHz-KatiuUE Their is no narrative, but a few captions are added, which is a good thing. There are three 70's mellow-rock songs for background music ( Crosby-Stills-Nash, Fleetwood Mac, Eric Clapton ) There are at least 4 guys and they seem equipped enough for a trip like the one they plan to go on. And maybe there is somebody waiting near the entrance in case they don't come out.The videographer writes that this is his first Airman's trip. I am sure he only posted this to show all his friends and subscribers and is not meant to be scrutinized by caver video enthusiast.But just for the sake of it, I would like to point out the helmet-cam is too shaky, the spot-light in the center of then entire video is annoying.The captions should mention that this is a warm dry dusty cave, and lightweight cotton clothing is desired.And since you might be pushing your helmet in front of you a few times, it is better to use a crappy old lightweight helmet.And that you don't need a fancy headlamp, but it needs to be reliable and have extra batteries. I haven't been to the cave in 20 years.I wish I could have gone there when I was a teenager, because I would have enjoyed it a whole lot back then. Had I seen this video as a teenager, it would have most likely inspired me to go there. David Locklear---End Message--- ---BeginMessage--- The two guys in this film tagged along with the Cowtown Grotto trip, and turned around right after the first long crawl, because one of the boys got scared. They don't know anything about taking off their helmets (which, for a trip to the Aggie Art Gallerie and back, they shouldn't need to). Preston, The City of Austin controls the key. These kids went in last Saturday, which was the day of the Open House. On 28 April 2013 08:30, Preston Forsythe pns_...@bellsouth.net wrote: ** Ah, Airman's and memories of my classic trip to the very back of the cave with Bill Russell, a few years ago. Who can forget the Birth Canal, the One-Legged Man and to me the most famous passage, the Wire Wiggle. It looked like the cave now has a gate. Does the UTG control the key? I thought the video was pretty good for the 10 minute run. The primary light must have been a Mummut. A very bright spotlight, too bright for the small passage. Hope to see you in PA in early Aug...Preston in Western KY
[Texascavers] UT Grotto Meeting May 1st
Howdy Texas Cavers, At this Wednesday's UT Grotto meeting, we are delighted to have Peter Sprouse share the latest and greatest news about the 2013 mapping efforts around Playa del Carmen, including some exciting cave diving developments over the past week. Dave Bunnell provided some spectacular photos. UT Grotto meeting - Wednesday from 7:45PM- 9:00PM University of Texas Campus in 2.48 Painter Hall (156 West 24th Street, Austin TX 78712) http://www.utexas.edu/maps/main/buildings/pai.html For information on Underground Texas Grotto activities, please see www.utgrotto.org Before the meeting, take advantage of Sao Paulo www.saopaulos.net for happy hour specials. This area is the best place to park and meet folks walking over to the meeting. Then after the official meeting, we continue with the decades long tradition to reconvene for burgers, beer, and tall tales of caving at Posse East. www.posse-east.com Cavingly, Andrea Croskrey UT Grotto Vice Chair
[Texascavers] 2013 Caver Beach Party - update
The date for the beach party is May 31, June 1st, and June 2nd. I have a small cabin on the beach for those 3 days. Other friends of mine in the NaturFest group have cabins rented also. Here is a link: http://www.brazoria-county.com/parks/quintana/Cabins.html This is the nicest beach in east Texas, except for 1 small problem. There is an enormous power plant about a 1/2 mile from the location. They do not allow vehicles on the beach or camp-fires. It is pristine as you are going to find in this region. The big deal is that the cabins are right behind the dunes facing the waves, and the cabins are very nice and not too expensive. You can camp in a tent, or maybe sleep on the floor in my cabin. I should have the cabin to myself Sunday night, so anyone is welcome to stay Sunday night in the cabin. I would bet that we have a live musician perform some acoustic Mexican music. We did this last year, and it was a success. The location is about 20 minutes south of Freeport, Texas. Google Map coordinates: 28.934153,-95.301536 David Locklear 281-995-8487 ( text-line )
[Texascavers] A web-based Texas Caving Encyclopedia ?
Below are 29 links from Wikipedia specific to caves in Texas. That is quite a bit of info already at our fingertips already on Wikipedia. Sifting thru it all for someone not familiar with the internet and Wikipedia is not user friendly, and it is not easy for cavers to fix or collaborate. Obviously, there is an opportunity here for a future creative caver or cavers to someday make a Texas Speleo-Encyclopedia. The idea would be to first verify the correctness and next assemble all the info in a easy to use wiki-place with the overall goal to allow all cavers to easily collaborate on organizing the data. I would guess that there is some wiki software that allows one to do something like what I am proposing. I grouped the links into 7 basic categories. Archaeology Caves: __ http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rock_Dove_Cave http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Baker_Cave,_Texas Texas Caving Groups ___ http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Texas_Cave_Conservancy http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Texas_Cave_Management_Association Texas Cave-Biology __ http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Texas_blind_salamander http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Texella_reyesi http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Texella_cokendolpheri http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cascade_Caverns_salamander http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tooth_Cave_spider http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Coffin_Cave_mold_beetle http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tartarocreagris_texana http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Texas_cave_shrimp http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kretschmarr_Cave_mold_beetle Texas Commercial Caves __ http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wonder_Cave_(San_Marcos,_Texas) http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Inner_Space_Cavern http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cave_Without_a_Name http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cascade_Caverns http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Natural_Bridge_Caverns http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Caverns_of_Sonora http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Longhorn_Cavern_State_Park Texas Wild Caves http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bracken_Cave http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jacob%27s_Well_(Texas) http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Devil%27s_Sinkhole_State_Natural_Area http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kickapoo_Cavern_State_Park Cavers ___ http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/William_Stone_(caver) http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Alan_Glennon ( 1993 President of A.S.S. ) http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Michel_Siffre ( 70's Midnight Cave experiment ) Bats ( general ) __ http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mexican_free-tailed_bat I did not find anything else from a quick basic search.I did not search wild caves by title, but I bet there quite a few of the ones that are closed for scientific reasons. David Locklear NSS # 27639
texascavers Digest 30 Apr 2013 05:54:07 -0000 Issue 1746
texascavers Digest 30 Apr 2013 05:54:07 - Issue 1746 Topics (messages 21664 through 21671): Caves in the news 21664 by: David Re: Airman's Cave related 21665 by: Preston Forsythe 21666 by: Heather Tucek looking for Susie Lasko 21667 by: Katherine Arens Re: looking for Susie Lasko - --FOUND, thank you all 21668 by: Katherine Arens UT Grotto Meeting May 1st 21669 by: Andrea Croskrey 2013 Caver Beach Party - update 21670 by: David A web-based Texas Caving Encyclopedia ? 21671 by: David Administrivia: To subscribe to the digest, e-mail: texascavers-digest-subscr...@texascavers.com To unsubscribe from the digest, e-mail: texascavers-digest-unsubscr...@texascavers.com To post to the list, e-mail: texascavers@texascavers.com -- ---BeginMessage--- I am off work tonight and just web-surfing for interesting new stories, so that is why I am posting this. Grutas de Garcia was in the news last week. One of the cable car operators was apparently telling the tourist that if they don't want to walk down the mountain, they could pay him cash to take the gondola back down ( even though they had not purchased a gondola ticket ). Apparently, management did not know he was doing this. One article called this fee a moche,I guess that is slang for embezzled fee.Please feel free to correct me on that. http://www.milenio.com/media/5d0/9552083648996bbab389366efae695d0_int470.jpg David Locklear ---End Message--- ---BeginMessage--- Ah, Airman's and memories of my classic trip to the very back of the cave with Bill Russell, a few years ago. Who can forget the Birth Canal, the One-Legged Man and to me the most famous passage, the Wire Wiggle. It looked like the cave now has a gate. Does the UTG control the key? I thought the video was pretty good for the 10 minute run. The primary light must have been a Mummut. A very bright spotlight, too bright for the small passage. Hope to see you in PA in early Aug...Preston in Western KY - - Original Message - From: David To: Cavers Texas Sent: Saturday, April 27, 2013 11:19 PM Subject: [Texascavers] Airman's Cave related One of the newest caving related videos on YouTube was uploaded last week and is an amateur helmet-cam video of the first section of Airman's Cave. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RHz-KatiuUE Their is no narrative, but a few captions are added, which is a good thing. There are three 70's mellow-rock songs for background music ( Crosby-Stills-Nash, Fleetwood Mac, Eric Clapton ) There are at least 4 guys and they seem equipped enough for a trip like the one they plan to go on. And maybe there is somebody waiting near the entrance in case they don't come out.The videographer writes that this is his first Airman's trip. I am sure he only posted this to show all his friends and subscribers and is not meant to be scrutinized by caver video enthusiast.But just for the sake of it, I would like to point out the helmet-cam is too shaky, the spot-light in the center of then entire video is annoying.The captions should mention that this is a warm dry dusty cave, and lightweight cotton clothing is desired.And since you might be pushing your helmet in front of you a few times, it is better to use a crappy old lightweight helmet.And that you don't need a fancy headlamp, but it needs to be reliable and have extra batteries. I haven't been to the cave in 20 years.I wish I could have gone there when I was a teenager, because I would have enjoyed it a whole lot back then. Had I seen this video as a teenager, it would have most likely inspired me to go there. David Locklear---End Message--- ---BeginMessage--- The two guys in this film tagged along with the Cowtown Grotto trip, and turned around right after the first long crawl, because one of the boys got scared. They don't know anything about taking off their helmets (which, for a trip to the Aggie Art Gallerie and back, they shouldn't need to). Preston, The City of Austin controls the key. These kids went in last Saturday, which was the day of the Open House. On 28 April 2013 08:30, Preston Forsythe pns_...@bellsouth.net wrote: ** Ah, Airman's and memories of my classic trip to the very back of the cave with Bill Russell, a few years ago. Who can forget the Birth Canal, the One-Legged Man and to me the most famous passage, the Wire Wiggle. It looked like the cave now has a gate. Does the UTG control the key? I thought the video was pretty good for the 10 minute run. The primary light must have been a Mummut. A very bright spotlight, too bright for the small passage. Hope to see you in PA in early Aug...Preston in Western KY
