[Texascavers] Volcano in Colima, Mexico
A volcano in Colima, Mexico erupted on Wednesday. There is a cool video of it here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GHNQB8-mvQw. There are also longer versions if you search for volcan Colima on YouTube. Mark Minton mmin...@caver.net ___ Texascavers mailing list | http://texascavers.com Texascavers@texascavers.com | Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/texascavers@texascavers.com/ http://lists.texascavers.com/listinfo/texascavers
Re: [Texascavers] Texas Caver
Beautiful job - hope you are doing well and I look forward to seeing you upon your return. I am thinking you will be coming back to San Antonio? Eileen Missy Egan font face=Comic Sans MSTUT... A Note from the Universe/font If you can make just one person smile today, if only by giving them one of yours, it just might change their entire week... which just might change their entire life. To: texascavers@texascavers.com Date: Tue, 20 Jan 2015 23:45:34 +0100 Subject: [Texascavers] Texas Caver From: texascavers@texascavers.com The On-line and E-pub versions of the Texas Caver are up! jill orr 210.399.6762jillorr.businesscatalyst.com ___ Texascavers mailing list | http://texascavers.com Texascavers@texascavers.com | Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/texascavers@texascavers.com/ http://lists.texascavers.com/listinfo/texascavers ___ Texascavers mailing list | http://texascavers.com Texascavers@texascavers.com | Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/texascavers@texascavers.com/ http://lists.texascavers.com/listinfo/texascavers
Re: [Texascavers] Texas Caver
Ron, it's a consolation for you being special :) On Fri, Jan 23, 2015 at 8:46 AM, Ron Ralph via Texascavers texascavers@texascavers.com wrote: And I received two copies for some reason. Ron *From:* via Texascavers texascavers@texascavers.com *Sent:* Friday, January 23, 2015 9:43 AM *To:* texascavers@texascavers.com *Subject:* Re: [Texascavers] Texas Caver Sent from my iPhone On Jan 22, 2015, at 11:26 PM, Heather Tucek via Texascavers texascavers@texascavers.com wrote: I mailed them both at the same time. I even had them put right next to each other in the stack. They both went out on Saturday morning. Sent from my iPhone ___ Texascavers mailing list | http://texascavers.com Texascavers@texascavers.com | Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/texascavers@texascavers.com/ http://lists.texascavers.com/listinfo/texascavers
Re: [Texascavers] Volcano in Colima, Mexico
I'm not aware of any caves in rock on Popo, which isn't to say there aren't any. But long ago Scott Harden told me he was climbing the mountain, saw an ice cave in a glacier across a valley, heard a deep rumble from the glacier and watched house-size blocks of ice flying horizontally out of the cave's entrance! George George Veni, Ph.D. Executive Director National Cave and Karst Research Institute 400-1 Cascades Avenue Carlsbad, New Mexico 88220-6215 USA Office: 575-887-5517 Mobile: 210-863-5919 Fax: 575-887-5523 gv...@nckri.org www.nckri.org From: Texascavers [mailto:texascavers-boun...@texascavers.com] On Behalf Of PRESTON FORSYTHE via Texascavers Sent: Friday, January 23, 2015 11:45 AM To: texascavers@texascavers.com; s...@caver.net Subject: Re: [Texascavers] Volcano in Colima, Mexico Yes, neat short video. Recently I have been reading old climbing magazines from the 1980's a friend recently gave me. I was too poor to subscribe then. Off Belay, Summit and Climbing. One rag had pulled a summary from the NSS News saying caves were reported inside the crater rim of Popo. I think Popo has been in steady eruption since 1995 when we went down there to summit, but instead we climbed Itza as Popo was closed due to the smoking and minor eruptions. The following year we climbed Orizaba, 18,600 ft. asl. Preston in Outer Browder, KY On Friday, January 23, 2015 12:22 PM, Mark Minton via Texascavers texascavers@texascavers.commailto:texascavers@texascavers.com wrote: A volcano in Colima, Mexico erupted on Wednesday. There is a cool video of it here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GHNQB8-mvQw. There are also longer versions if you search for volcan Colima on YouTube. Mark Minton mmin...@caver.netmailto:mmin...@caver.net ___ Texascavers mailing list | http://texascavers.comhttp://texascavers.com/ Texascavers@texascavers.commailto:Texascavers@texascavers.com | Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/texascavers@texascavers.com/ http://lists.texascavers.com/listinfo/texascavers ___ Texascavers mailing list | http://texascavers.com Texascavers@texascavers.com | Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/texascavers@texascavers.com/ http://lists.texascavers.com/listinfo/texascavers
Re: [Texascavers] Underground bike park in Kentucky's Mega Cavern
Was there last weekend. Did the Mega Quest (challenge course) and the Mega Zip (zip lines). Bike course (BMX mountain bike) is still under construction (some parts are complete but it's not yet open to the public). They do have a Mega Tram tour, where they drive around the mine w/ a mini SUV, pulling an open trailer w/ seats (it was not running but will start back up next month). The law in KY is you must own (or pay for) the land under which you're mining. The property on the surface became too expensive (leased) to justify the mining operation. The underground passage ways are now legally considered a building (w/ all that that entails). Challenge course was OK. Geared for kids, who would have a blast. I spent 2.5 hrs working up a light sweat doing all 76 challenges, most of them multiple times (had the place to myself for the first hr+). It was all self guided. A double cows tail is used for constant connection to the safety cable. Interesting mechanical interlock system (to pass re-belays), such that one connection had to be made (to a solid connection) before the other one would release. The zip lines tour was more fun (the challenge course had 2 (mini) zip lines) but more expensive and guided. It lasted the same amount of time, and we had 13 people on the tour (maximum size I think). It was full service, meaning you didn't touch your gear at any point (except to hold on (optional), adjust your harness, step off to start, and lift your feet as you came to the end). They (one of two guides) connected and disconnected you from the cable and also stopped us (300 lbs. weight limit. One of the bigger folks came in pretty hot on most (6 total) of the runs. Was entertaining to watch and hear his commentary). Fun times, but pricy and slow as they move through everybody one at a time. Guides were good and humorous w/ their comments and instruction while we waited. All this was a consolation trip since the Mammoth wild tour was sold out 2 months ahead of time (only on the one day I could make it!). No waiting list, no standing by if somebody didn't show (was told there had to be an explicit cancelation (w/ commensurate penalty) to make a spot available). In other words, in the most extreme case, the entire tour could be a no show (14 people max), but since they already had their money, nobody else would be allowed to go in their place. Anyway, maybe worth checking (both) out if you have the time, inclination, and money. - John Kerr Sent from my iPhone On Jan 23, 2015, at 9:02 AM, Mark Minton via Texascavers texascavers@texascavers.com wrote: I'd say even less impact than the mine in Indiana. There they drove trucks and buses around underground. Presumably that doesn't happen as much in a bike park. ;-) Mark On Fri, January 23, 2015 1:56 am, Stephen Fleming via Texascavers wrote: Being an abandoned mine, no impacts at all and certainly nothing like the mine itself may have had. I'd say any potential for impacts would be about the same or less than the NSS had at the 2007 convention doing its photo salon and banquet in a limestone mine remade as a warehouse. Stephen On 01/22/2015 18:40, Linda Starr wrote: What will the developers think of next? More ways to make a buck off of remaking the environment. Sure, it's cool, but what about the impacts on the earth? Linda Starr On Thu, Jan 22, 2015 at 11:35 AM, Lee H. Skinner skin...@thuntek.net mailto:skin...@thuntek.net wrote: In a limestone mine: Phase 1 of 3 will have over 5 miles of bike trails. http://grist.org/list/this-new-underground-bike-park-totally-rules/ Lee ___ Texascavers mailing list | http://texascavers.com Texascavers@texascavers.com | Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/texascavers@texascavers.com/ http://lists.texascavers.com/listinfo/texascavers ___ Texascavers mailing list | http://texascavers.com Texascavers@texascavers.com | Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/texascavers@texascavers.com/ http://lists.texascavers.com/listinfo/texascavers
Re: [Texascavers] Volcano in Colima, Mexico
Yes, neat short video. Recently I have been reading old climbing magazines from the 1980's a friend recently gave me. I was too poor to subscribe then. Off Belay, Summit and Climbing. One rag had pulled a summary from the NSS News saying caves were reported inside the crater rim of Popo. I think Popo has been in steady eruption since 1995 when we went down there to summit, but instead we climbed Itza as Popo was closed due to the smoking and minor eruptions. The following year we climbed Orizaba, 18,600 ft. asl. Preston in Outer Browder, KY On Friday, January 23, 2015 12:22 PM, Mark Minton via Texascavers texascavers@texascavers.com wrote: A volcano in Colima, Mexico erupted on Wednesday. There is a cool video of it here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GHNQB8-mvQw. There are also longer versions if you search for volcan Colima on YouTube. Mark Minton mmin...@caver.net ___ Texascavers mailing list | http://texascavers.com Texascavers@texascavers.com | Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/texascavers@texascavers.com/ http://lists.texascavers.com/listinfo/texascavers___ Texascavers mailing list | http://texascavers.com Texascavers@texascavers.com | Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/texascavers@texascavers.com/ http://lists.texascavers.com/listinfo/texascavers
Re: [Texascavers] [SWR] [Sandiagrotto] Underground bike park in Kentucky's Mega Cavern
Here in KY the Lou-val quarry bike trails are news to me. I'll check with some cavers who live near there. Sounds like adventure for some, just as the very popular slides for life are today, if one never had the opportunity to do a slide like erry Raines had set up on his place years ago. All in fun On Friday, January 23, 2015 12:56 AM, Stephen Fleming via Texascavers texascavers@texascavers.com wrote: Being an abandoned mine, no impacts at all and certainly nothing like the mine itself may have had. I'd say any potential for impacts would be about the same or less than the NSS had at the 2007 convention doing its photo salon and banquet in a limestone mine remade as a warehouse. Stephen On 01/22/2015 18:40, Linda Starr wrote: What will the developers think of next? More ways to make a buck off of remaking the environment. Sure, it's cool, but what about the impacts on the earth? Linda Starr On Thu, Jan 22, 2015 at 11:35 AM, Lee H. Skinner skin...@thuntek.net wrote: In a limestone mine: Phase 1 of 3 will have over 5 miles of bike trails. http://grist.org/list/this-new-underground-bike-park-totally-rules/ Lee ___ Texascavers mailing list | http://texascavers.com Texascavers@texascavers.com | Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/texascavers@texascavers.com/ http://lists.texascavers.com/listinfo/texascavers___ Texascavers mailing list | http://texascavers.com Texascavers@texascavers.com | Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/texascavers@texascavers.com/ http://lists.texascavers.com/listinfo/texascavers
[Texascavers] El Sotano del Barro jeep expedition
Apparently there¹s a group of 4x4 enthusiasts who are attempting to reach Sotano del Barro via jeep. Anyone know more about this? ³El Sotano² was a backpacking-only destination back in the day but I suppose there could have been some roadbuilding in the area over the past 43 years. Here are some links to news and video about the effort: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZtDr0HTE_fY http://www.jeeperos.com/foros/showthread.php?t=109513 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6sHMhJRK7bM Frank Binney Frank Binney Associates Interpretive Planning and Media Development P.O. Box 258 Woodacre, CA 94973 415.488.1200 Voice 415.488.1500 Fax 415.999.0556 Mobile fr...@frankbinney.com ___ Texascavers mailing list | http://texascavers.com Texascavers@texascavers.com | Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/texascavers@texascavers.com/ http://lists.texascavers.com/listinfo/texascavers
[Texascavers] Fwd: NSS HQ work weekends - schedule
Preston Forsythe asked me to forward this. Logan lmcn...@austin.rr.com Things are getting going at the NSS Headquarters again. We have a schedule for the next few months. There may be a few more weekends scheduled in between, but this is what we have for now. Our first projects will be to finish the ceiling tiles in the entry hall and office area. We are also getting going on the library/archives area. No skills are needed, but if you have some, even better! Here are the volunteer work weekends. Jan 31 Feb 14 Feb 28 Mar 14 Mar 28 Apr 11 Apr 25 May 2 May 30 Jun 13 Camping area indoors and out. Indoor kitchen, refrigerator, stove and microwave available. Feel free to forward this to any appropriate grotto mailing list. Maureen Handler ___ Texascavers mailing list | http://texascavers.com Texascavers@texascavers.com | Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/texascavers@texascavers.com/ http://lists.texascavers.com/listinfo/texascavers
Re: [Texascavers] Texas Caver
Sent from my iPhone On Jan 22, 2015, at 11:26 PM, Heather Tucek via Texascavers texascavers@texascavers.com wrote: I mailed them both at the same time. I even had them put right next to each other in the stack. They both went out on Saturday morning. Sent from my iPhone On Jan 22, 2015, at 10:44 PM, Katherine Arens via Texascavers texascavers@texascavers.com wrote: heather, is there some reason william got his copy and I didn’t get mine? We both renewed at the same time . . . k On Jan 20, 2015, at 5:12 PM, Heather Tucek via Texascavers texascavers@texascavers.com wrote: And mailed copies went out Saturday morning! On 20 January 2015 at 16:45, Jill Orr via Texascavers texascavers@texascavers.com wrote: The On-line and E-pub versions of the Texas Caver are up! image001.png jill orr 210.399.6762 jillorr.businesscatalyst.com ___ Texascavers mailing list | http://texascavers.com Texascavers@texascavers.com | Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/texascavers@texascavers.com/ http://lists.texascavers.com/listinfo/texascavers -- Go find out! -Heather Tuček UT Grotto, DFW Grotto TSA Secretary Membership Chair NSS 59660 (512) 773-1348 trog...@cavechat.org ___ Texascavers mailing list | http://texascavers.com Texascavers@texascavers.com | Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/texascavers@texascavers.com/ http://lists.texascavers.com/listinfo/texascavers Katherine Arens Office Phone: (512) 232-6363 ar...@austin.utexas.edu Dept. Phone: (512) 471-4123 Dept. of Germanic Studies FAX (512) 471-4025 2505 University Ave, C3300 Bldg.Location: Burdine 336 University of Texas at Austin Office: Burdine 320 Austin, TX 78712-1802 -. .- _..-'()`-.._ ./'. '||\\.(\_/) .//||` .`\. ./'.|'.'\\|..)O O(..|//`.`|.`\. ./'..|'.|| |\`` '` '` ''/| ||.`|..`\. ./'.||'. . . .`||.`\. /'|||'.|| { } ||.`|||`\ '.|||'.||| { } |||.`|||.` '.||| | |/' ``\||`` ''||/'' `\| | |||.` |/' \./' `\./\!|\ /|!/\./' `\./ `\| V VV}' `\ /' `{V VV ___ Texascavers mailing list | http://texascavers.com Texascavers@texascavers.com | Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/texascavers@texascavers.com/ http://lists.texascavers.com/listinfo/texascavers ___ Texascavers mailing list | http://texascavers.com Texascavers@texascavers.com | Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/texascavers@texascavers.com/ http://lists.texascavers.com/listinfo/texascavers ___ Texascavers mailing list | http://texascavers.com Texascavers@texascavers.com | Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/texascavers@texascavers.com/ http://lists.texascavers.com/listinfo/texascavers
Re: [Texascavers] Underground bike park in Kentucky's Mega Cavern
I'd say even less impact than the mine in Indiana. There they drove trucks and buses around underground. Presumably that doesn't happen as much in a bike park. ;-) Mark On Fri, January 23, 2015 1:56 am, Stephen Fleming via Texascavers wrote: Being an abandoned mine, no impacts at all and certainly nothing like the mine itself may have had. I'd say any potential for impacts would be about the same or less than the NSS had at the 2007 convention doing its photo salon and banquet in a limestone mine remade as a warehouse. Stephen On 01/22/2015 18:40, Linda Starr wrote: What will the developers think of next? More ways to make a buck off of remaking the environment. Sure, it's cool, but what about the impacts on the earth? Linda Starr On Thu, Jan 22, 2015 at 11:35 AM, Lee H. Skinner skin...@thuntek.net mailto:skin...@thuntek.net wrote: In a limestone mine: Phase 1 of 3 will have over 5 miles of bike trails. http://grist.org/list/this-new-underground-bike-park-totally-rules/ Lee ___ Texascavers mailing list | http://texascavers.com Texascavers@texascavers.com | Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/texascavers@texascavers.com/ http://lists.texascavers.com/listinfo/texascavers
Re: [Texascavers] Texas Caver
And I received two copies for some reason. Ron From: via Texascavers Sent: Friday, January 23, 2015 9:43 AM To: texascavers@texascavers.com Subject: Re: [Texascavers] Texas Caver Sent from my iPhone On Jan 22, 2015, at 11:26 PM, Heather Tucek via Texascavers texascavers@texascavers.com wrote: I mailed them both at the same time. I even had them put right next to each other in the stack. They both went out on Saturday morning. Sent from my iPhone On Jan 22, 2015, at 10:44 PM, Katherine Arens via Texascavers texascavers@texascavers.com wrote: heather, is there some reason william got his copy and I didn’t get mine? We both renewed at the same time . . . k On Jan 20, 2015, at 5:12 PM, Heather Tucek via Texascavers texascavers@texascavers.com wrote: And mailed copies went out Saturday morning! On 20 January 2015 at 16:45, Jill Orr via Texascavers texascavers@texascavers.com wrote: The On-line and E-pub versions of the Texas Caver are up! image001.png jill orr .- ___ Texascavers mailing list | http://texascavers.com Texascavers@texascavers.com | Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/texascavers@texascavers.com/ http://lists.texascavers.com/listinfo/texascavers