[Texascavers] Volcano in Colima, Mexico

2015-01-23 Thread Mark Minton via Texascavers
  A volcano in Colima, Mexico erupted on Wednesday. There is a cool video
of it here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GHNQB8-mvQw. There are
also longer versions if you search for volcan Colima on YouTube.

Mark Minton
mmin...@caver.net

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Re: [Texascavers] Texas Caver

2015-01-23 Thread Eileen Egan via Texascavers
Beautiful job - hope you are doing well and I look forward to seeing you upon 
your return.  I am thinking you will be coming back to San Antonio?





 
 
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Date: Tue, 20 Jan 2015 23:45:34 +0100
Subject: [Texascavers] Texas Caver
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The On-line and E-pub versions of the Texas Caver are up!  jill orr 
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Re: [Texascavers] Texas Caver

2015-01-23 Thread Charles Goldsmith via Texascavers
Ron, it's a consolation for you being special :)

On Fri, Jan 23, 2015 at 8:46 AM, Ron Ralph via Texascavers 
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   And I received two copies for some reason.
 Ron

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 Sent from my iPhone

 On Jan 22, 2015, at 11:26 PM, Heather Tucek via Texascavers 
 texascavers@texascavers.com wrote:

  I mailed them both at the same time. I even had them put right next to
 each other in the stack. They both went out on Saturday morning.

 Sent from my iPhone


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Re: [Texascavers] Volcano in Colima, Mexico

2015-01-23 Thread George Veni via Texascavers
I'm not aware of any caves in rock on Popo, which isn't to say there aren't 
any. But long ago Scott Harden told me he was climbing the mountain, saw an ice 
cave in a glacier across a valley, heard a deep rumble from the glacier and 
watched house-size blocks of ice flying horizontally out of the cave's 
entrance!

George


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Subject: Re: [Texascavers] Volcano in Colima, Mexico

Yes, neat short video. Recently I have been reading old climbing magazines from 
the 1980's a friend recently gave me. I was too poor to subscribe then. Off 
Belay, Summit and Climbing. One rag had pulled a summary from the NSS News 
saying caves were reported inside the crater rim of Popo. I think Popo has been 
in steady eruption since 1995 when we went down there to summit, but instead we 
climbed Itza as Popo was closed due to the smoking and minor eruptions. The 
following year we climbed Orizaba, 18,600 ft. asl.

Preston in Outer Browder, KY

On Friday, January 23, 2015 12:22 PM, Mark Minton via Texascavers 
texascavers@texascavers.commailto:texascavers@texascavers.com wrote:

  A volcano in Colima, Mexico erupted on Wednesday. There is a cool video
of it here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GHNQB8-mvQw. There are
also longer versions if you search for volcan Colima on YouTube.

Mark Minton
mmin...@caver.netmailto:mmin...@caver.net

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Re: [Texascavers] Underground bike park in Kentucky's Mega Cavern

2015-01-23 Thread John Kerr via Texascavers
Was there last weekend. Did the Mega Quest (challenge course) and the Mega Zip 
(zip lines).

Bike course (BMX  mountain bike) is still under construction (some parts are 
complete but it's not yet open to the public).

They do have a Mega Tram tour, where they drive around the mine w/ a mini SUV, 
pulling an open trailer w/ seats (it was not running but will start back up 
next month).

The law in KY is you must own (or pay for) the land under which you're mining. 
The property on the surface became too expensive (leased) to justify the mining 
operation. The underground passage ways are now legally considered a building 
(w/ all that that entails). 

Challenge course was OK. Geared for kids, who would have a blast. I spent 2.5 
hrs working up a light sweat doing all 76 challenges, most of them multiple 
times (had the place to myself for the first hr+). 
It was all self guided. A double cows tail is used for constant connection to 
the safety cable. Interesting mechanical interlock system (to pass re-belays), 
such that one connection had to be made (to a solid connection) before the 
other one would release. 

The zip lines tour was more fun (the challenge course had 2 (mini) zip lines) 
but more expensive and guided. It lasted the same amount of time, and we had 13 
people on the tour (maximum size I think). It was full service, meaning you 
didn't touch your gear at any point (except to hold on (optional), adjust your 
harness, step off to start, and lift your feet as you came to the end). They 
(one of two guides) connected and disconnected you from the cable and also 
stopped us (300 lbs. weight limit. One of the bigger folks came in pretty hot 
on most (6 total) of the runs. Was entertaining to watch and hear his 
commentary). Fun times, but pricy and slow as they move through everybody one 
at a time. Guides were good and humorous w/ their comments and instruction 
while we waited. 

All this was a consolation trip since the Mammoth wild tour was sold out 2 
months ahead of time (only on the one day I could make it!). No waiting list, 
no standing by if somebody didn't show (was told there had to be an explicit 
cancelation (w/ commensurate penalty) to make a spot available). In other 
words, in the most extreme case, the entire tour could be a no show (14 people 
max), but since they already had their money, nobody else would be allowed to 
go in their place.

Anyway, maybe worth checking (both) out if you have the time, inclination, and 
money. 

- John Kerr

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 On Jan 23, 2015, at 9:02 AM, Mark Minton via Texascavers 
 texascavers@texascavers.com wrote:
 
  I'd say even less impact than the mine in Indiana. There they drove
 trucks and buses around underground. Presumably that doesn't happen as
 much in a bike park. ;-)
 
 Mark
 
 On Fri, January 23, 2015 1:56 am, Stephen Fleming via Texascavers wrote:
 Being an abandoned mine, no impacts at all and certainly nothing like
 the mine itself may have had.
 
 I'd say any potential for impacts would be about the same or less than
 the NSS had at the 2007 convention doing its photo salon and banquet in
 a limestone mine remade as a warehouse.
 
 Stephen
 
 On 01/22/2015 18:40, Linda Starr wrote:
 What will the developers think of next? More ways to make a buck off
 of remaking the environment. Sure, it's cool, but what about the
 impacts on the earth?
 Linda Starr
 
 
 On Thu, Jan 22, 2015 at 11:35 AM, Lee H. Skinner skin...@thuntek.net
 mailto:skin...@thuntek.net wrote:
 
 In a limestone mine: Phase 1 of 3 will have over 5 miles of bike trails.
 
 http://grist.org/list/this-new-underground-bike-park-totally-rules/
 
 Lee
 
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Re: [Texascavers] Volcano in Colima, Mexico

2015-01-23 Thread PRESTON FORSYTHE via Texascavers
Yes, neat short video. Recently I have been reading old climbing magazines from 
the 1980's a friend recently gave me. I was too poor to subscribe then. Off 
Belay, Summit and Climbing. One rag had pulled a summary from the NSS News 
saying caves were reported inside the crater rim of Popo. I think Popo has been 
in steady eruption since 1995 when we went down there to summit, but instead we 
climbed Itza as Popo was closed due to the smoking and minor eruptions. The 
following year we climbed Orizaba, 18,600 ft. asl.

Preston in Outer Browder, KY



On Friday, January 23, 2015 12:22 PM, Mark Minton via Texascavers 
texascavers@texascavers.com wrote:
 


  A volcano in Colima, Mexico erupted on Wednesday. There is a cool video
of it here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GHNQB8-mvQw. There are
also longer versions if you search for volcan Colima on YouTube.

Mark Minton
mmin...@caver.net

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Re: [Texascavers] [SWR] [Sandiagrotto] Underground bike park in Kentucky's Mega Cavern

2015-01-23 Thread PRESTON FORSYTHE via Texascavers
Here in KY the Lou-val quarry bike trails are news to me. I'll check with some 
cavers who live near there. Sounds like adventure for some, just as the very 
popular slides for life are today, if one never had the opportunity to do a 
slide like erry Raines had set up on his place years ago. All in fun 



On Friday, January 23, 2015 12:56 AM, Stephen Fleming via Texascavers 
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Being an abandoned mine, no impacts at all and certainly nothing like the mine 
itself may have had. 

I'd say any potential for impacts would be about the same or less
  than the NSS had at the 2007 convention doing its photo salon and
  banquet in a limestone mine remade as a warehouse.

Stephen


On 01/22/2015 18:40, Linda Starr wrote:

What will the developers think of next?  More ways to make a buck off of 
remaking the environment.  Sure, it's cool, but what about the impacts on the 
earth?

Linda Starr




On Thu, Jan 22, 2015 at 11:35 AM, Lee H. Skinner skin...@thuntek.net wrote:

In a limestone mine: Phase 1 of 3 will have over 5 miles of bike trails.

http://grist.org/list/this-new-underground-bike-park-totally-rules/

Lee


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[Texascavers] El Sotano del Barro jeep expedition

2015-01-23 Thread Frank Binney via Texascavers
Apparently there¹s a group of 4x4 enthusiasts who are attempting to reach
Sotano del Barro via jeep. Anyone know more about this?  ³El Sotano² was a
backpacking-only destination back in the day but I suppose there could have
been some roadbuilding in the area over the past 43 years.
Here are some links to news and video about the effort:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZtDr0HTE_fY

http://www.jeeperos.com/foros/showthread.php?t=109513

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6sHMhJRK7bM

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[Texascavers] Fwd: NSS HQ work weekends - schedule

2015-01-23 Thread Logan McNatt via Texascavers

Preston Forsythe asked me to forward this.
Logan
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Things are getting going at the NSS Headquarters again.  We have a
schedule for the next few months.  There may be a few more weekends
scheduled in between, but this is what we have for now.  Our first
projects will be to finish the ceiling tiles in the entry hall and
office area.  We are also getting going on the library/archives area.
No skills are needed, but if you have some, even better!

Here are the volunteer work weekends.

Jan 31
Feb 14
Feb 28
Mar 14
Mar 28
Apr 11
Apr 25
May 2
May 30
Jun 13

Camping area indoors and out.
Indoor kitchen, refrigerator, stove and microwave available.

Feel free to forward this to any appropriate grotto mailing list.

Maureen Handler




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Re: [Texascavers] Texas Caver

2015-01-23 Thread via Texascavers


Sent from my iPhone

On Jan 22, 2015, at 11:26 PM, Heather Tucek via Texascavers 
texascavers@texascavers.com wrote:

 I mailed them both at the same time. I even had them put right next to each 
 other in the stack. They both went out on Saturday morning. 
 
 
 
 
 Sent from my iPhone
 
 On Jan 22, 2015, at 10:44 PM, Katherine Arens via Texascavers 
 texascavers@texascavers.com wrote:
 
 heather, is there some reason william got his copy and I didn’t get mine? We 
 both renewed at the same time . . . 
 k
 On Jan 20, 2015, at 5:12 PM, Heather Tucek via Texascavers 
 texascavers@texascavers.com wrote:
 
 And mailed copies went out Saturday morning!
 
 On 20 January 2015 at 16:45, Jill Orr via Texascavers 
 texascavers@texascavers.com wrote:
 The On-line and E-pub versions of the Texas Caver are up!
 
  
 
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Re: [Texascavers] Underground bike park in Kentucky's Mega Cavern

2015-01-23 Thread Mark Minton via Texascavers
  I'd say even less impact than the mine in Indiana. There they drove
trucks and buses around underground. Presumably that doesn't happen as
much in a bike park. ;-)

Mark

 On Fri, January 23, 2015 1:56 am, Stephen Fleming via Texascavers wrote:
 Being an abandoned mine, no impacts at all and certainly nothing like
 the mine itself may have had.

 I'd say any potential for impacts would be about the same or less than
 the NSS had at the 2007 convention doing its photo salon and banquet in
 a limestone mine remade as a warehouse.

 Stephen

 On 01/22/2015 18:40, Linda Starr wrote:
 What will the developers think of next? More ways to make a buck off
 of remaking the environment. Sure, it's cool, but what about the
 impacts on the earth?
 Linda Starr


 On Thu, Jan 22, 2015 at 11:35 AM, Lee H. Skinner skin...@thuntek.net
 mailto:skin...@thuntek.net wrote:

  In a limestone mine: Phase 1 of 3 will have over 5 miles of bike trails.

  http://grist.org/list/this-new-underground-bike-park-totally-rules/

  Lee

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Re: [Texascavers] Texas Caver

2015-01-23 Thread Ron Ralph via Texascavers
And I received two copies for some reason.
Ron

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On Jan 22, 2015, at 11:26 PM, Heather Tucek via Texascavers 
texascavers@texascavers.com wrote:


  I mailed them both at the same time. I even had them put right next to each 
other in the stack. They both went out on Saturday morning. 

  Sent from my iPhone

  On Jan 22, 2015, at 10:44 PM, Katherine Arens via Texascavers 
texascavers@texascavers.com wrote:


heather, is there some reason william got his copy and I didn’t get mine? 
We both renewed at the same time . . .  
k

On Jan 20, 2015, at 5:12 PM, Heather Tucek via Texascavers 
texascavers@texascavers.com wrote:


  And mailed copies went out Saturday morning!


  On 20 January 2015 at 16:45, Jill Orr via Texascavers 
texascavers@texascavers.com wrote:

The On-line and E-pub versions of the Texas Caver are up!



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jill orr 



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