[Texascavers] Fwd: Edwards Aquifer Authority must shell out to pecan farmers - San Antonio Express-News/Paul Terrill

[Fritz Holt via Texascavers]

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> From: kittymr...@aol.com
> Date: February 25, 2016 at 10:39:45 AM CST
> To: Fritz Holt , Fran Bruce , Jim 
> Hughes 
> Subject: Edwards Aquifer Authority must shell out to pecan farmers - San 
> Antonio Express-News/Paul Terrill
> 
> The lawyer who won for the Braggs is Paul Terrill, GrAcie and Paul's son
> 
> 
> http://www.expressnews.com/news/local/article/BRAGG-VERDICT-6847721.php?t=ac795161b3=email-premium
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[Texascavers] DeepKarst Conference Schedule

[George Veni via Texascavers]

Dear Friends,

Normally I send announcements of things with definite dates and availability. 
This message is a little different. As I hope you know, the April 11-14 
DeepKarst conference, which focuses on hypogenic karst, will be held in 
Carlsbad, New Mexico, at NCKRI Headquarters.

The general schedule will be posted on the website probably within a few days 
but definitely by sometime next week at http://deepkarst.org/. The detailed 
schedule is nearly complete and may be posted at the same time, or possibly a 
week later. You'll find papers from several countries and across the US, plus 
the list of excellent field trips that are already listed. If you haven't 
registered, I hope you will. It will be an excellent meeting.

The reason for this odd announcement is that starting tomorrow I will be 
underground and out of phone and e-mail range until the 7th, so I wanted to get 
you this information before I leave.

As always, please feel free to share this information with anyone who may be 
interested.

George


George Veni, PhD
Executive Director
National Cave and Karst Research Institute
400-1 Cascades Avenue
Carlsbad, New Mexico 88220-6215 USA
Office: 575-887-5517
Mobile: 210-863-5919
Fax: 575-887-5523
gv...@nckri.org
www.nckri.org

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[Texascavers] Honey Creek Road Project - Fundraising Complete

[Robert B via Texascavers]

Regarding the request for donations to the Honey Creek Road Repair Project.

We have exceeded the request for donations.
As such we are not taking additional donations at this time.

A big thank you to all those who committed funds to this project.
We raised $1800 in 24 hours and have another $500 is available as back-up
should costs exceed expectations.

Arron Wertheim has been informed of this and is proceeding with the project.
He believes that actual costs will come in below the $1800

Rob
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Re: [Texascavers] Honey Creek Cave Road Repair Project

[Robert B via Texascavers]

Joe & texascavers

Thank you for your donation(s). Every little bit helps.

I'll try to answer your questions as diplomatically as possible.

#1. why isn't a group like the TSA taking care of the total cost?  They
have ample funds and this type of thing seems right up their alley...
Answer...The folks heading up this project did not directly request that
the TSA take care of the "Total Cost". They did ask that the TSA make a
fair and reasonable donation. The TSA has committed $500.
Further to your question regarding ample funds... (This is where I may fail
in the diplomatic response) The TSA does have funds that it can and does
use for such efforts. However, the TSA as an organization is not in charge
of this 'road repair project' and as such the TSA should not feel obligated
to incur 100% of the costs for which we have no control.

#2. how we keep this from happening? (There is alot of history within your
question...)
Answer...The quick answer is to not drive when wet. Yes, we (the cavers of
Texas) had done much work on the road and ranch. Might we have to do repair
work sometime on the future. Possibly... Hopefully yes! I think as an
optimist. 30 years from now when this repair project is far from our
collective memories, Texas cavers are still exploring Honey Creek and still
have excellent relations with the owner but we screw up the road during
a through trip HC to CWAN & Spring Creek and it's organized by Bill
Steele's granddaughter...
Honestly...I can only hope and work towards continued good landowner
relations today

On Wed, Feb 24, 2016 at 9:16 PM, Don Arburn via Texascavers <
texascavers@texascavers.com> wrote:

> Texas Cavers Reunion will commit a hundred. It'll cost Texas Cavers a bit
> extra at TCR, just a tad.
>
>
> --Don
>
> On Feb 24, 2016, at 7:29 PM, Robert B via Texascavers <
> texascavers@texascavers.com> wrote:
>
> To Texas Cavers
>
> The following is a request for financial donations for a project to repair
> the well shaft road at Honey Creek Cave. This is not a request for
> volunteers.
>
> The road to the Honey Creek well shaft is in need of repairs after many
> years of use, neglect and damage from last years rain during a major caver
> event.
>
> As Texas Cavers directly benefit from access to the cave, and any efforts
> at maintaining good landowner relations may enhance our continued access,
> we feel repairing the road is in our best interest.
>
> As such, on the weekend of March 5&6 repairs will begin. Equipment and
> labor is being donated to this effort but there will be significant out of
> pocket expenses. Two (2) bobcat type skidsteers, a backhoe and a large
> capacity dump trailer are being donated. Equipment operators are
> volunteering their time. However, this group feels their out of pocket
> costs such as diesel and equipment hauling costs should be compensated by
> Texas Cavers. The necessary heavy duty trucks and trailers to haul the
> skidsteers and backhoe are not being donated.
> Initial estimates of out of pocket costs = $1500.
>
> Mr. Arron Wertheim has agreed to be the Project Manager. He has contacted
> the landowner to work out road repair details and permission. He has also
> agreed to incur the up front costs himself, with the understanding that
> Texas Cavers will make reasonable 'not to exceed' commitments (donations)
> from which he will be compensated.
>
> We are requesting funds from TSA, TCMA, all Texas Grottoes and individual
> Texas Cavers.
> Funding shall be made in the form of a 'not to exceed' financial
> commitment. Upon project completion those donating shall be informed of
> their exact amount to be paid based upon actual expenses. Actual funds
> will be paid directly to Arron Wertheim after project completion.
>
> Should you feel this is a worthy cause please email me directly (off
> Texascavers Listserve) with your committed donation. Robert Bisset (
> chair...@cavetexas.org).
>
> Note: The Bexar Grotto has agreed to fund $500 with another $500 should
> fundraising efforts fall short.
>
> Thanks
> Robert Bisset - TSA Chairman
> chair...@cavetexas.org
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