Re: [Texascavers] Langtry caving

2017-10-19 Thread Charles Loving via Texascavers 
I went to Langtry Leads twice. And to a sink out there somewhere. Did some
caving on the Alamo Village Ranch for Happy Shahan looking for guano to
mine. All a long time ago.

On Thu, Oct 19, 2017 at 11:43 AM, Fritz Holt via Texascavers <
texascavers@texascavers.com> wrote:

> David,
> Good information. What are the names of the other two caves? I have made
> the drop into the main cave in the Hwy. 90 cut at Langtry some years ago
> with Preston McMichael and other friends.
> Fritz Holt
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> > On Oct 19, 2017, at 10:53 AM, David via Texascavers <
> texascavers@texascavers.com> wrote:
> >
> > I mentioned last month that I had discovered that the landowner of the 3
> big caves out at the big ranch north of the town of Langtry had passed away.
> >
> > I made a diligent effort to contact his large family and offer
> condolences.
> >
> > They are now aware of my intentions.
> >
> > I can only hope that someday one of them will contact me expressing
> interest in assistance with visiting the caves or reach out on their own to
> another caver.
> >
> > I have guided several trips into each of the 3 caves, but the last time
> was at about 19 years ago.  I am not in good enough health to do it any
> time soon.
> >
> > These caves are warmer and dustier and drier than caves in the Hill
> Country.Emerald Sink probably has a huge bat population.
> >
> > Proper gear is just a caving quality headlamp ( $ 30 to $ 70 from Frys
> ), jeans and t-shirt, plenty of water or Gatorade and some lightweight
> cotton gloves and any kind of helmet.
> >
> > Thin kneepads for those who can not tolerate occasional crawling.
> >
> > Maybe something new will happen in 2018 in the Langtry Caves.
> >
> > But as of October 19, I do not know if they want cavers to contact them,
> or who in their family wants to be the cave contact, or even if any of them
> still own the ranch.
> >
> > I do not plan to ever reach out to them again.   The ball is in their
> court.
> >
> > If my effort fails, then another caver should try, or attempt a
> different approach method, but at least wait a few months.
> >
> > David Locklear
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[Texascavers] Caving in Guatemala at this Monday's Bexar Grotto meeting

2017-10-19 Thread Bennett Lee via Texascavers 
This Monday night, Ben Hutchins will be talking about caving in Guatemala. He's 
a fantastic speaker, and his presentations are always top notch.

Caving the headwaters of the Machaquila River
The Machaquila River rises near the Belize border in Peten State, Guatemala, 
but upstream of its "beginning" on the surface, the river flows through 
numerous caves. For the 2nd year in a row, cavers visited the subterranean 
headwaters of the Machaquila this March to trace its underground path.

The Bexar Grotto meets every 2nd and 4th Monday of the month at 7pm in the 
Party Room of Chester's at 410 and N New Braunfels.

Chester's 
Hamburgers
1006 NE Loop 
410
San Antonio, TX 
78209

Bennett Lee
Programs Vice-Chair
Bexar Grotto
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Re: [Texascavers] Langtry caving

2017-10-19 Thread Fritz Holt via Texascavers 
David,
Good information. What are the names of the other two caves? I have made the 
drop into the main cave in the Hwy. 90 cut at Langtry some years ago with 
Preston McMichael and other friends.
Fritz Holt

Sent from my iPhone

> On Oct 19, 2017, at 10:53 AM, David via Texascavers 
>  wrote:
> 
> I mentioned last month that I had discovered that the landowner of the 3 big 
> caves out at the big ranch north of the town of Langtry had passed away.
> 
> I made a diligent effort to contact his large family and offer condolences.
> 
> They are now aware of my intentions.
> 
> I can only hope that someday one of them will contact me expressing interest 
> in assistance with visiting the caves or reach out on their own to another 
> caver.
> 
> I have guided several trips into each of the 3 caves, but the last time was 
> at about 19 years ago.  I am not in good enough health to do it any time soon.
> 
> These caves are warmer and dustier and drier than caves in the Hill Country.  
>   Emerald Sink probably has a huge bat population.
> 
> Proper gear is just a caving quality headlamp ( $ 30 to $ 70 from Frys ), 
> jeans and t-shirt, plenty of water or Gatorade and some lightweight cotton 
> gloves and any kind of helmet.
> 
> Thin kneepads for those who can not tolerate occasional crawling.
> 
> Maybe something new will happen in 2018 in the Langtry Caves.  
> 
> But as of October 19, I do not know if they want cavers to contact them, or 
> who in their family wants to be the cave contact, or even if any of them 
> still own the ranch.
> 
> I do not plan to ever reach out to them again.   The ball is in their court.
> 
> If my effort fails, then another caver should try, or attempt a different 
> approach method, but at least wait a few months.
> 
> David Locklear
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[Texascavers] Langtry caving

2017-10-19 Thread David via Texascavers 
I mentioned last month that I had discovered that the landowner of the 3
big caves out at the big ranch north of the town of Langtry had passed away.

I made a diligent effort to contact his large family and offer condolences.

They are now aware of my intentions.

I can only hope that someday one of them will contact me expressing
interest in assistance with visiting the caves or reach out on their own to
another caver.

I have guided several trips into each of the 3 caves, but the last time was
at about 19 years ago.  I am not in good enough health to do it any time
soon.

These caves are warmer and dustier and drier than caves in the Hill
Country.Emerald Sink probably has a huge bat population.

Proper gear is just a caving quality headlamp ( $ 30 to $ 70 from Frys ),
jeans and t-shirt, plenty of water or Gatorade and some lightweight cotton
gloves and any kind of helmet.

Thin kneepads for those who can not tolerate occasional crawling.

Maybe something new will happen in 2018 in the Langtry Caves.

But as of October 19, I do not know if they want cavers to contact them, or
who in their family wants to be the cave contact, or even if any of them
still own the ranch.

I do not plan to ever reach out to them again.   The ball is in their court.

If my effort fails, then another caver should try, or attempt a different
approach method, but at least wait a few months.

David Locklear
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