Re: [Texascavers] National Cave and Karst Management Symposium

[Missy Singleton]

I'd be happy to help with all of that.  The USFWS doesn't do sponsorships.  I 
would be happy to ask the Austin field office if they would like to set up a 
table at the conference and/or I'd be happy to man that table.  The biggest 
thing for us right now is WNS as far as bats.  Other karst critters we are 
concerned about include everything in the Edwards aquafir water shed.

Missy

From: Texascavers  on behalf of Jim 
Kennedy 
Sent: Friday, August 30, 2019 12:17 PM
To: texascavers@texascavers.com 
Subject: Re: [Texascavers] National Cave and Karst Management Symposium

10-4. Maybe doing the call for papers?  Or something similar?  Promotion?  
Registration?

Do you think USFWS would want to sponsor (i.e. donate money)?  Or set up a 
table during the conference?  I don’t even know who there is working with karst 
critters any more.

Thanks!

Jim

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On Aug 30, 2019, at 12:13 PM, Missy Singleton 
mailto:missie...@hotmail.com>> wrote:

Please let me know what I can do from afar.  

Missy

From: Texascavers 
mailto:texascavers-boun...@texascavers.com>>
 on behalf of Crash Kennedy mailto:cavercr...@gmail.com>>
Sent: Thursday, August 29, 2019 4:59 PM
To: CaveTex mailto:texascavers@texascavers.com>>
Subject: [Texascavers] National Cave and Karst Management Symposium

Cavers,

Every two years we have a National Cave and Karst Management Symposium (NCKMS) 
somewhere around the country.  This year's is in Bristol, Virginia 
(http://nckms.org/).  The last one in Texas was in 1989 (New Braunfels).  I 
hope to bring it back home in 2021.  But for that I will need some help.

It's not a large conference, only about 150 people or so.  But we still need to 
rent a venue, coordinate speakers and publish the Proceedings, plan and run 
field trips, host a banquet, find corporate/agency sponsors, set up 
Registration, advertise and advertise some more, and handle a hundred other 
details.  I'm hosting a meeting at the Texas Speleological Center (14045 North 
Green Hills Loop, Austin, TX  78737-8619) at 1 pm on Sunday 8 September for 
anyone interested in helping in any way.  What I want to do is to put together 
a small organizing committee that will work on this for the next two years, so 
that I can take a symposium bid back the the Steering Committee in Bristol in 
October.  I realize that several of you are remote, or won't be able to attend 
the meeting on such short notice, but are still willing to help in some 
fashion.  That's great!  We'll find a spot for you, also.  Guidelines for 
hosting the event are on the NCKMS website at http://nckms.org/host-a-symposium.

I'm thinking of having it in the San Marcos area.  We have so many things going 
on there:  springs, salamanders, urbanization, bats, nearby show caves, 
potential partner organizations --- the list goes on and on.  And it's a heck 
of a lot cheaper venue than Austin or San Antonio.  But let's get our heads 
together on the 8th and figure this out.

Grab some lunch before you arrive or bring it with you.  The meeting may take 
2-3 hours.  I'll have a whiteboard, and record our ideas somehow.  Bring your 
suggestions, your enthusiasm, and (most of all) yourselves.

Jim "Crash" Kennedy
NCKMS Steering Committee Chair
512-663-2287
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Re: [Texascavers] Printer Ink Cartridges

[grubbsi]

I print lots of stuff. reports, airphotos to take in the field, maps and more 
maps.  I got a  tank feed printer Epson ET 2750  It was about $100 more than a 
cartridge fed Canon pixma.  A set of 4 bottles of ink is 50 - 60 $ ( I think)   
I'm still working on the first set of ink bottles.  estimated 4500 pages per 
refill.  quality and print speed is nice  Now If I'm going out in the field I 
can print copies of all the air photos so everyone can have their own

- Original Message -
From: "mminton" 
To: "texascavers" 
Sent: Friday, August 30, 2019 10:10:23 AM
Subject: Re: [Texascavers] Printer Ink Cartridges

Back when I used an inkjet printer (now I use laser toner, which is also 
expensive) I got a very inexpensive universal ink refill kit at Costco. 
It had enough ink to refill dozens of times, and for less than the cost 
of a single cartridge. It worked with any brand, and even had 
instructions for refilling cartridges that we not intended to be 
refilled. It told how to drill a tiny hole into the cartridge ink 
reservoir, and came complete with the drill and plugs for the resulting 
hole. It worked great.

Mark Minton
mmin...@caver.net

On 2019-08-30 02:41, David wrote:
> For anyone shopping for a new printer for their computer.

> It is no surprise, but even at Sam's Club the ink cartridges are super
> expensive. In my opinion, ink is # 1 factor in choosing a new printer.
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Re: [Texascavers] National Cave and Karst Management Symposium

[Jim Kennedy]

10-4. Maybe doing the call for papers?  Or something similar?  Promotion?  
Registration?

Do you think USFWS would want to sponsor (i.e. donate money)?  Or set up a 
table during the conference?  I don’t even know who there is working with karst 
critters any more. 

Thanks!

Jim

Mobile email from my iPhone

> On Aug 30, 2019, at 12:13 PM, Missy Singleton  wrote:
> 
> Please let me know what I can do from afar.  
> 
> Missy
>  
> From: Texascavers  on behalf of Crash 
> Kennedy 
> Sent: Thursday, August 29, 2019 4:59 PM
> To: CaveTex 
> Subject: [Texascavers] National Cave and Karst Management Symposium
>  
> Cavers,
> 
> Every two years we have a National Cave and Karst Management Symposium 
> (NCKMS) somewhere around the country.  This year's is in Bristol, Virginia 
> (http://nckms.org/).  The last one in Texas was in 1989 (New Braunfels).  I 
> hope to bring it back home in 2021.  But for that I will need some help.  
> 
> It's not a large conference, only about 150 people or so.  But we still need 
> to rent a venue, coordinate speakers and publish the Proceedings, plan and 
> run field trips, host a banquet, find corporate/agency sponsors, set up 
> Registration, advertise and advertise some more, and handle a hundred other 
> details.  I'm hosting a meeting at the Texas Speleological Center (14045 
> North Green Hills Loop, Austin, TX  78737-8619) at 1 pm on Sunday 8 September 
> for anyone interested in helping in any way.  What I want to do is to put 
> together a small organizing committee that will work on this for the next two 
> years, so that I can take a symposium bid back the the Steering Committee in 
> Bristol in October.  I realize that several of you are remote, or won't be 
> able to attend the meeting on such short notice, but are still willing to 
> help in some fashion.  That's great!  We'll find a spot for you, also.  
> Guidelines for hosting the event are on the NCKMS website at 
> http://nckms.org/host-a-symposium.
> 
> I'm thinking of having it in the San Marcos area.  We have so many things 
> going on there:  springs, salamanders, urbanization, bats, nearby show caves, 
> potential partner organizations --- the list goes on and on.  And it's a heck 
> of a lot cheaper venue than Austin or San Antonio.  But let's get our heads 
> together on the 8th and figure this out.  
> 
> Grab some lunch before you arrive or bring it with you.  The meeting may take 
> 2-3 hours.  I'll have a whiteboard, and record our ideas somehow.  Bring your 
> suggestions, your enthusiasm, and (most of all) yourselves.
> 
> Jim "Crash" Kennedy
> NCKMS Steering Committee Chair
> 512-663-2287
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Re: [Texascavers] National Cave and Karst Management Symposium

[Missy Singleton]

Please let me know what I can do from afar.  

Missy

From: Texascavers  on behalf of Crash 
Kennedy 
Sent: Thursday, August 29, 2019 4:59 PM
To: CaveTex 
Subject: [Texascavers] National Cave and Karst Management Symposium

Cavers,

Every two years we have a National Cave and Karst Management Symposium (NCKMS) 
somewhere around the country.  This year's is in Bristol, Virginia 
(http://nckms.org/).  The last one in Texas was in 1989 (New Braunfels).  I 
hope to bring it back home in 2021.  But for that I will need some help.

It's not a large conference, only about 150 people or so.  But we still need to 
rent a venue, coordinate speakers and publish the Proceedings, plan and run 
field trips, host a banquet, find corporate/agency sponsors, set up 
Registration, advertise and advertise some more, and handle a hundred other 
details.  I'm hosting a meeting at the Texas Speleological Center (14045 North 
Green Hills Loop, Austin, TX  78737-8619) at 1 pm on Sunday 8 September for 
anyone interested in helping in any way.  What I want to do is to put together 
a small organizing committee that will work on this for the next two years, so 
that I can take a symposium bid back the the Steering Committee in Bristol in 
October.  I realize that several of you are remote, or won't be able to attend 
the meeting on such short notice, but are still willing to help in some 
fashion.  That's great!  We'll find a spot for you, also.  Guidelines for 
hosting the event are on the NCKMS website at http://nckms.org/host-a-symposium.

I'm thinking of having it in the San Marcos area.  We have so many things going 
on there:  springs, salamanders, urbanization, bats, nearby show caves, 
potential partner organizations --- the list goes on and on.  And it's a heck 
of a lot cheaper venue than Austin or San Antonio.  But let's get our heads 
together on the 8th and figure this out.

Grab some lunch before you arrive or bring it with you.  The meeting may take 
2-3 hours.  I'll have a whiteboard, and record our ideas somehow.  Bring your 
suggestions, your enthusiasm, and (most of all) yourselves.

Jim "Crash" Kennedy
NCKMS Steering Committee Chair
512-663-2287
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Re: [Texascavers] Printer Ink Cartridges

[mminton]

Back when I used an inkjet printer (now I use laser toner, which is also 
expensive) I got a very inexpensive universal ink refill kit at Costco. 
It had enough ink to refill dozens of times, and for less than the cost 
of a single cartridge. It worked with any brand, and even had 
instructions for refilling cartridges that we not intended to be 
refilled. It told how to drill a tiny hole into the cartridge ink 
reservoir, and came complete with the drill and plugs for the resulting 
hole. It worked great.


Mark Minton
mmin...@caver.net

On 2019-08-30 02:41, David wrote:

For anyone shopping for a new printer for their computer.



It is no surprise, but even at Sam's Club the ink cartridges are super
expensive. In my opinion, ink is # 1 factor in choosing a new printer.

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Re: [Texascavers] a toast to two beloved cavers

[Charles Loving]

Longtime caver from the sixties Terry Plemons passed on to the Great Cenote
in the sky this month. An ex PCV, put in a lot of time on the Bustamante
project and did a lot of caving in Texas and Mexico and was also a pillar
of the Caver Cooks for 20 years.

On Fri, Aug 30, 2019 at 7:33 AM Jon Cradit 
wrote:

> David,
>
> Thanks for that reminder of those we’ve lost.
>
> That list is growing too fast.
>
>
>
> Jon
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> *From:* Texascavers  *On Behalf Of *
> David
> *Sent:* Friday, August 30, 2019 2:50 AM
> *To:* CaveTex 
> *Subject:* [Texascavers] a toast to two beloved cavers
>
>
>
> This month marks the 10th anniversary of the passing
>
> of Carl Ponebshek,
>
>
>
> and the 20th anniversary of the tragic caving accident
>
> of Christy Quintana.
>
>
>
> I am sure there are others worth mentioning.
>
>
>
> plus or minus a month, you could say something similar
>
> in memory of Joe Ivy, and Ed Alexander, too.
>
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-- 
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Re: [Texascavers] a toast to two beloved cavers

[Jon Cradit]

David,
Thanks for that reminder of those we’ve lost.
That list is growing too fast.

Jon



From: Texascavers  On Behalf Of David
Sent: Friday, August 30, 2019 2:50 AM
To: CaveTex 
Subject: [Texascavers] a toast to two beloved cavers

This month marks the 10th anniversary of the passing
of Carl Ponebshek,

and the 20th anniversary of the tragic caving accident
of Christy Quintana.

I am sure there are others worth mentioning.

plus or minus a month, you could say something similar
in memory of Joe Ivy, and Ed Alexander, too.
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[Texascavers] a toast to two beloved cavers

[David]

This month marks the 10th anniversary of the passing
of Carl Ponebshek,

and the 20th anniversary of the tragic caving accident
of Christy Quintana.

I am sure there are others worth mentioning.

plus or minus a month, you could say something similar
in memory of Joe Ivy, and Ed Alexander, too.
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[Texascavers] consumer tip

[David]

For anyone shopping for a new printer for their computer.

I have a very tiny business, or at least I pretend to. I have
been trying to get by with old printers and fax machines for
most of my 21 years in business, and lately it was getting
frustrating that my printer and fax machine
was limited on certain features.

Today, the straw broke the camel's back, and I had to go
buy a new printer. I had been shopping for months, so I had
a pretty good idea what I wanted.  So I went to Sam's Club
and got their best HP printer, which as of this writing is the
OfficeJet Pro 9018. This model stands out slightly over
a lesser model sitting next to it, as the box includes full-capacity
cartridges, and a USB cable.If you are the kind of person that
prints a couple of full-page multi-color pages per month, then this
is a logical choice for you, as the cartridges are nearly twice the size
of printers that are slightly less expensive. If you are doing a lot
more color printing than that, then you need to order something online,
or go to MicroCenter or Fry's, an get an enterprise class, but those start
at $ 500 for HP models.

This printer has some bells and whistles on it, like allegedly
voice-printing.

If you have not purchased a $ 200 printer in the past year or two, you might
be in for a surprise at how complicated the set-up is. You are going to
want
a 6-pack of your favorite beverage, and do your yoga or find your
happy-place
first. I would have to say you need to plan on a 3 step process and take
a break between those 3 steps.   1 ) unboxing, drink your beverage 2 ) find
a place to set down the printer and connect the 3 cables.( You are
going to
need an extension cord, for example, and maybe even a USB extender ), drink
your bevarage. and
3 ) getting your computer to finish the set up, drink the remaining 4
beverages.


In my case, I have a Linux computer, so setting up an HP printer is
simple, if not almost fully automatic.

This printer shakes when it prints, so if you have it on a folding table, or
wobbly table, you are going to notice it vibrating back and forth.

Everything about the printers in the home-market class are cheap disposable
quality.I can only hope it will last 2 years.

It is no surprise, but even at Sam's Club the ink cartridges are super
expensive.
In my opinion, ink is # 1 factor in choosing a new printer.

I have used Brother printers and faxes for the past few years. Those
will save
you money, but you are missing out on some features. For example, HP's
ePrint
works really well. And in my case HP printers are easier to install
than Brother.

The cheap HP printers do not do photo-quality printing, but the pictures
are good enough to win
an NSS Award for a grotto newsletter.  When was the last time a Texas
grotto
won a Newsletter Cover Award at the NSS Convention ?

David Locklear

P.S.   I am on Day # 17 renting a room from some random stranger on
Craigslist. I am
probably going to try to stick it out till October.  Things today are
better than they
were when I moved in, almost livable by my standards.The main problem
is the air-quality
coming out of the AC unit.

David
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