Re: [Texascavers] Texascavers Digest, Vol 63, Issue 22
Thanks, Nico. That was illuminating. On Sun, Sep 22, 2019, 9:42 PM Nico Hauwert wrote: > Generating electricity from natural underground > > Dr. Mustafa Saribudak of Austin measured anomalies in electrical potential > over both water-filled and air-filled caves. The method he calls natural > potential basically uses a sensitive volt meter. He has published (and I > have unpublished works) a number of surveys, including Barton Springs, > Flint Ridge Cave, McNeil High School area caves, Houston area faults and > others. I hypothesize that ions flowing in water create electrical > potential, and the air filled ones not so sure but perhaps wind borne gases > like CO2, ions, periodic flood flows or residual from long ago. > Nico Hauwert, Ph.D. > 2403 Bahama Road > Austin, Texas 78733 > 01-512-695-4597 > nmhauw...@gmail.com > > On Sun, Sep 22, 2019 at 11:00 AM > wrote: > >> Send Texascavers mailing list submissions to >> texascavers@texascavers.com >> >> To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit >> http://lists.texascavers.com/listinfo/texascavers >> or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to >> texascavers-requ...@texascavers.com >> >> You can reach the person managing the list at >> texascavers-ow...@texascavers.com >> >> When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific >> than "Re: Contents of Texascavers digest..." >> >> >> Today's Topics: >> >>1. Updated The Hall of Texas and Mexico Cavers (William R. Elliott) >>2. Ralph Doerzbacher **Jr.** (David) >>3. honoring cavers who passed (David) >>4. Generating electricity from natural underground resources (David) >> >> >> -- >> >> Message: 1 >> Date: Sat, 21 Sep 2019 15:34:34 -0500 >> From: "William R. Elliott" >> To: texascavers@texascavers.com >> Subject: [Texascavers] Updated The Hall of Texas and Mexico Cavers >> Message-ID: >> > 1orpvobdyzxeb05yqgn...@mail.gmail.com> >> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" >> >> Dear friends, >> >> I have updated The Hall of Texas and Mexico Cavers. Much more information >> now on departed cavers who explored caves in Texas and Mexico. See >> http://cavelife.info/hall/hall.htm >> >> More updates will come later, but I now have detailed information back to >> 2010 and a few beyond. >> >> Cavers send me more information, but we still have a few lost cavers. We >> need basic info on these folks, at least the year of death might help: >> >> Chip Carney, geologist, died in Alaska. >> >> Jonathan Davis, geologist, died in motorcycle accident in the late 1980s. >> He >> was the son of E Mott Davis, professor of anthropology at UT. >> >> Scott Lilly, young CVS caver, died in motorcycle accident in the 1970s. >> >> George Sevra, CVS caver, lost track of him. >> >> If you suggest someone, please help by trying to research that person >> through online searches. Paul and Elizabeth Duncan found information on >> Bill Mayne, who died in a cave diving accident in Florida in 1993, by >> searching for him on Ancestry.com. I was then able to find the accident >> report in *American Caving Accidents. * >> >> >> *William R. (Bill) Elliott* >> >> *speodes...@gmail.com * >> >> 573-291-5093 cell >> -- next part -- >> An HTML attachment was scrubbed... >> URL: < >> http://lists.texascavers.com/private/texascavers/attachments/20190921/4976f332/attachment-0001.html >> > >> >> -- >> >> Message: 2 >> Date: Sat, 21 Sep 2019 22:45:33 -0500 >> From: David >> To: CaveTex >> Subject: [Texascavers] Ralph Doerzbacher **Jr.** >> Message-ID: >> < >> caecwswoj-utc8ujnrik4pvqjdn5c3fmnawcpcga+dwxvojs...@mail.gmail.com> >> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" >> >> This email is to honor >> >> Mr. Ralph Doerzbacher Jr. >> >> ( Major Ralph E. Doerzbacher, Jr., USAF-retired ) >> >> of Saint Paris, Ohio passed away, September 16, 2019. >> >> Born on April 6, 1935 in Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania. >> >> Graduated of the University of Pittsburgh with a B.S. in Physics ( ~ 1957 >> ). >> >> Major Doerzbacher served his country in the USAF for 23 years. He then >> worked for the Dept. of Defense as an engineer for 3 years. >> >> He enjoyed caving, the Ohio Nature Conservatory, Boy Scouts and was a >> supporter of Cedar Bog in Champaign County, >> and a member of the National Speleological Society. >> >> >> https://cache.legacy.net/legacy/images/cobrands/urbanacitizen/photos/123565047_web_doerzbacher-ralph_20190917.jpg >> >> I was going to try to post more info, but there may be another Ralph >> Doerzbacher, so I do not want to post anything >> in error. >> >> Ref.: >> >> >> https://books.google.com/books?id=v7E_DwAAQBAJ&pg=PA87&lpg=PA87&dq=ralph+doerzbacher&source=bl&ots=EBYamSGRjs&sig=ACfU3U3PcTuaTu1ko-C9xgsNnGpHCTF9Pg&hl=en&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwiXqP20wOPkAhUQMawKHVEuAqs4ChDoATAAegQICRAB#v=onepage&q=ralph%20doerzbacher&f=false
Re: [Texascavers] austin american Statesman article on Bill Russell and the karst preserve
That really was a very nice testimonial for William. Thanks for posting the
link, Katie.
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Re: [Texascavers] William
Maybe we can make that happen.
On Tue, Mar 26, 2019, 8:19 PM Katherine Arens
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> Do you think Bill would object to having a cave preserve use his name?
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>> thanks, Katie. I was going to post that I thought William would
>> certainly prefer the cave keep its name. I’m glad you spoke up
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>> Nope, Guys. He HATED people who renamed known caves for no good reason,
>> with "good" meaning "correcting histoircal record on ownership and
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Re: [Texascavers] William
Do you think Bill would object to having a cave preserve use his name? On Tue, Mar 26, 2019, 4:53 PM Nancy Weaver wrote: > thanks, Katie. I was going to post that I thought William would certainly > prefer the cave keep its name. I’m glad you spoke up > Nancy > > On Mar 26, 2019, at 4:18 PM, Katherine Arens > wrote: > > Nope, Guys. He HATED people who renamed known caves for no good reason, > with "good" meaning "correcting histoircal record on ownership and > location". > -katie > > > ___ > Texascavers mailing list | http://texascavers.com > Texascavers@texascavers.com | Archives: > http://www.mail-archive.com/texascavers@texascavers.com/ > http://lists.texascavers.com/listinfo/texascavers > ___ Texascavers mailing list | http://texascavers.com Texascavers@texascavers.com | Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/texascavers@texascavers.com/ http://lists.texascavers.com/listinfo/texascavers
Re: [Texascavers] Federal shutdown, etc.
How David. If a Federal Employee wants to go the distance, they will keep their opinions very close. Not air them on a public forum. My brother works for the Forest Service, and will talk to me, but never where his opinions can be overheard. He's NOT watching the news, and doing woodworking projects. Perhaps fretting about his mortgage next month, a bit. On Fri, Jan 18, 2019, 2:48 PM David There is all sorts of stuff to talk about, yet it seems quiet out there on > CaveTex. > > Any of you affected by the gov't shutdown. > > I recall there is a caver who works for the Border Patrol or something > similar to that. > > I know a semi-retired caver it east Texas ( who would prefer to remain > anonymous ) has > been on furlough. > > I imagine there are cavers in Carlsbad or that work for caves on land > controlled by the > Federal Government, that might be affected.I can only guess they are > using their > spare time to go caving. > > I do not think the shutdown is affecting me.I sometimes deliver court > summons for the > Federal courts, but that is not really any significant part of my income. > > The news media is making a faithful effort to make it sound like > Armageddon is about to begin. > > There is plenty of fun exciting news going on, but you have to hunt for > it. Watching YouTube, > occasionally one will find an interesting video.There are other places > on the web with interesting > videos.( I do not watch much tv.I just found out yesterday that, I > missed Season One of Star Trek > Discovery ) > > On a lighter note, > > an enormous gigantic wall is being built in Houston. This wall serves > several purposes, > but one of which is security. It is only a mile long though, and is > much more sturdy than they walls shown > along the southern Texas border. Yet, not a single person is > protesting this wall, paid for by Texas taxpapers. > ___ > Texascavers mailing list | http://texascavers.com > Texascavers@texascavers.com | Archives: > http://www.mail-archive.com/texascavers@texascavers.com/ > http://lists.texascavers.com/listinfo/texascavers > ___ Texascavers mailing list | http://texascavers.com Texascavers@texascavers.com | Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/texascavers@texascavers.com/ http://lists.texascavers.com/listinfo/texascavers
Re: [Texascavers] TCR Registration history
Having spent many a late, cold Friday night accepting payments for TCR, and having read carefully through the entire chain of emails, I'll add this. The TSA assumed much of the task of registration in order to increase TSA memberships, (and, also, to increase funding for The Texas Caver, when publishing and mailing expenses were reducing its weight and content). The TSA, in my back-in-the-day experience, did not run or sponsor TCR. The TSA, similar to the TCMA, were more akin to organizational guests. Invited to attend, but not saddled with the running of things --- which, as noted, largely ran themselves. I encourage all attending to participate with the financial responsibilities. (We all use those porta-potties!) I would discourage anyone, even --or especially-- a TSA member or officer, from assuming the thankless task of policing wristbands. It will make you unhappy, and tarnish the good spirit directed towards the TSA itself, reducing its ability to carry on the many good projects for which TSA provides continuing support. TCR is not an arm of the TCMA. TCR is not an arm of the TSA. TCR is not a TSA event, although a meeting is usually held Sunday morning. It IS a great, big, fun, caver-family reunion! On Wed, Aug 29, 2018, 11:04 AM wrote: > During the time I ran TCR and when I helped Gil while he was running it I > do not remember a single instance of anyone being "thrown out" of the TCR, > ever. There were a number of cooks and cooks helpers who got comped in > because they were workers on the event. They spent their time doing those > things that make TCR run and not "hanging out" There were other prominent > individuals who contributed in vast and underappreciated ways. We showed > our gratitude to them in other ways. TCR always broke even so it was never > about money. If we had folks who for what ever reason didnt "register" it > wasnt really a big issue. We had plenty to do without worrying about > that. We tried to have as few rules as possible. > > William Russell once remarked that one of the beautiful things about TCR > was that it is the closest thing to a real working anarchy you can have. > It more or less runs itself. People know what needs to be done and do it. > Cavers are good about seeing something that needs doing and they do it with > very little compunction. Just a little guidance is all. Gil was better > at that than I was. His advice was "keep you hand lightly on the wheel" > let it run itself. This generally works fairly well. We tried very hard > to keep the event light hearted and fun. I have nothing but great > compliments for the folks who have organized the event for the last few > years because they have continued to come up with new things like the > parade that embellish that tradition. > > I dont think that I can ever fully explain what TCR means to me. I get to > see friends I have known more than 45 years. Some I see that once or twice > a year. some I havent seen in decades.I get to see caver kids I > watched grow up raising their own kids. Couple years ago one of those > "kids" said "I bet you remember me when I was that little" I did. Caving > is a team based adventure sport that thrives on camaraderie. TCR is a > celebration of those friendships and the richness of the many years of > memories. > > The cavers I grew up with were also very "non-status" oriented. That is > hard to explain and I dont see it as strong these days but nobody tried to > set up rules and make others follow them. Of course there was basic safety > and competence. You had to get voted in by the grotto member to be a > "regular" member. but then you could, check out ropes, lead trips ect > > Last year at TCR there was someone who was stalking around the cam being a > "wristband nazi" who appointed them to that I dont know. They werent > having a good time, unless hassling folks was their fun. I also know that > Registration wasnt open a large part of the time. I know folks who had a > difficult time finding somebody to give their money to. If people are > willing to work at registration I say let them decide if they want to be > there late Friday night /Sat morning, ect. If this is a issue then the > organizers ( god rest their souls) should recruit a larger group to do > this. It is one of the most onerous tasks of the event and anyone willing > to spend their time on it deserves some slack. > > TCR doesnt really run itself, there are hundreds of tasks that have to be > done. A lot of it happens before the event, the hidden part of the > iceberg. Everyone has ways the help out, some visible, some hidden. We > have created a unique cavers event word of which has spread all over the > country. Let us continue to strive to make it the most enjoyable fall > weekend you can ever have > Andy G Grubbs i > > > -- > *From: *"Nancy Weaver" > *To: *"texascavers" > *Sent: *Wednesday, August 29, 2018 9:03:24 AM > *Subjec
[Texascavers] Terry Saythers' HAWAII 70 Party
Only 19 years and 53 weeks ago, there was Terry's Hawaii 50 party. Now.its time for *MORE* Hawaiian shirts and grass skirts! WHEN April 21st, 2018 WHERE 3106 Clawson Rd, in South Austin TIME: 4-10pm There will be BBQ ! Bring a chair and your favorite side dish or liquid refreshment RSVP to debbiestuart...@yahoo.com Have questions? -like how many candles to bring? *call* Debbie at 512-627-2556 ___ Texascavers mailing list | http://texascavers.com Texascavers@texascavers.com | Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/texascavers@texascavers.com/ http://lists.texascavers.com/listinfo/texascavers
Re: [Texascavers] Mexican vehicle permit related
Swimming within 100 miles of Bustamante: Portrero Chico. Should be on the web--- climbers love the limestone there. All the pools may not have water in them. Should check. On Nov 19, 2017 8:27 PM, "David via Texascavers" < texascavers@texascavers.com> wrote: > From David Locklear > Hit delete button now, please. > > > > I am posting this here because someone might have had some vague > intangible interest. > > > This post is only for U.S.A. people wanting to drive their car deep into > Mexici, and who do not live near a bordertown, nor want to have vehicle > importation problems at the "aduana" slow down their trip. > > > In Houston, in order to get a "vehicle" permit it is a huge hassle. > > But before I get to that, you first need to have a car title, or an > official letter from the leinholder. It is helpful if that is a credit > union, and that process of getting them to provide such a letter for the > first time takes about 24 hours. They will not give you the letter unless > you first purchase Mexico insurance. That really sucks, because you are > throwing all that time and money down the toilet, if you change travel > plans. > > So once you have all that, here is what I had to do: > > Step 1:call Mexico long-distance and apply over the phone for a formal > interview appointment. > > # 011-52-55-5626-0500 <+52%2055%205626%200500> > > You get a complicated voice menu and you enter a 4-digit extension. > > This has to be done at least 24 hours in advance. > > The operator will tell you which appointment slots are available with the > Mexican Consulate Office in the mid-town area of Houston > ( Hwy 59 and Fannin St. ). > > Step 2: Then you have to drive there the following weekday ( or later) > arriving exactly 5 minutes before the appointment. You stand in a > complicated line outside on Caroline St. ( very reminiscent of the movie > "Soylent Green," waiting for your Soylent Green ration. ) you feel there > like you are no longer in the USA, nor even in the 21st Century. > > You have to be careful here for pickpockets and scammers and muggers from > your parking spot to the line. There is one security guard at the main > pedestrian gate which is the only way to enter. > > Once in line, you do a bizarre childish ritual of musical chairs for an > hour with some scary looking guys that resemble Enrique Penya Nieto. In my > case, there was a super gorgeous lady sitting next to me and so I gave her > my number and asked her to please forward it to her younger sister who she > said was single in Mexico. While in line they pull you out for 5 minutes > for an interview with person of low IQ. You have to formally declare your > religion to them, along with other bizarre questions. > > Fortunately, I read the fine print of my initial interview form while > sitting in the line, because the clerk typed that I was from Aruba. > > At the end of the line - the window ( Banjercito ), you begin the vehicle > stuff. It is chaotic - 2 clerks and 2 tourist using the same window. > There are no holes in the window for speaking, so you have to yell and > listen carefully. You want to say to yourself, WTF !Nothing is > logical. All they ever asked for was a copy of the Texas Vehicle > Registration paper that you get when you apply for a state registration > window sticker. I do not recall seeing them look at the credit union > letter, nor my insurance. But I would not have done all that without > first assuring myself that I could get my credit union permission. > > Then you hand them a credit card, and they charge $ 470. The $ 400 part > is a deposit, and there are more bizarre questions, the rest is a standard > processing fee.They did not ask about my former vehicle papers, but it > has been 13 years. > I assume I get the deposit back in July ?? I have never ever done > anything that stupid, that I recall. > > > > In addition to all that, > > in my case, I also spent money on gas driving there, as I do not live in > Harris County, and also paying to park in a place my car could have easily > been broken into. > > I will say, that after leaving the Consulate Office with the permit in > hand that it gives one a warm fuzzy feeling - until you receive the text > message your charge card was hit with $ 470. > > My permit is good until May 19th, and my credit union says they will amend > the letter next time I want to go again.AAA clerk said that that was > too much of a hassle and hope I don't have to do that insurance again. > > > > As far as other expenses getting ready for a road-trip, so far > > All I did to the Sequoia was change the oil, but Jiffy Lube charged $ > 112. I didn't have time to do it myself. > > Then I spent time searching junk-yards for an extra spare tire, which was > $ 70 plus about $ 5 spent on gas. Fortunately it is a common thing in > Houston junkyards. This was something I should have done before my > road-trip to the Nevada NSS Convention. > > > > > > On a
Re: [Texascavers] Re: in-cave marriages
I know of a non-caver wedding celebrated in Longhorn Caverns that has since been dissolved. If there's a pox on Weddings in Caves, it seems it may not be specific to Cavers (which had always been my pereception). -cathy On 1/18/12, Logan McNatt wrote: > There's one relatively recent marriage that is still intact. Bob West & > Cindy Chamberlain married in Longhorn Cavern on May 6, 2006. I was > honored to be Bob's Best Man, and it was the only time I've ever worn a tux > and cowboy boots in a cave. > Logan > > On 1/18/2012 11:49 AM, Frank Binney wrote: > > Have any marriages lasted that had their wedding celebrations in a cave? > I recall a number of underground weddings over the years officiated by > Reverend Ediger or other ordained cavers but as far as I recall all ended in > divorce. > --Frank > > > On 1/18/12 9:02 AM, "Gill Edigar" wrote: > > In April of 1969, just before or just after a trip to Golondrinas, I > sent in a 6-cent postcard with my and Jette Feduska's names and > addresses on it--no money, no nuthin else--and received our > ordinations in the Universal Life Church a few days later. For 3-cents > I got ordained. Carta Valley SUCKS was in full swing at the time and I > performed baptisms at several caver functions ranging from State > College, Pennsylvania to California (and an NSS BOG party in Buda) > with water from Oztotl's Cave in Mexico provided by the Bittingers. In > the early '80s I joined the rabble at the Church of the Sub-Genius as > the Rev Theophilus Punnoval and still have and wear my Bob Dobbs shirt > (printed in my silk screen shop at Mockingburd 300). I've probably > done something somewhat fewer than 30 weddings in all--a few in caves, > on mountain tops and rivers, and on rope high up a cliff. > > --Ediger > > > > > - > Visit our website: http://texascavers.com > To unsubscribe, e-mail: texascavers-unsubscr...@texascavers.com > For additional commands, e-mail: texascavers-h...@texascavers.com > > - Visit our website: http://texascavers.com To unsubscribe, e-mail: texascavers-unsubscr...@texascavers.com For additional commands, e-mail: texascavers-h...@texascavers.com
Re: [Texascavers] Re: in-cave marriages
I know of a non-caver wedding celebrated in Longhorn Caverns that has since been dissolved. If there's a pox on Weddings in Caves, it seems it may not be specific to Cavers (which had always been my pereception). -cathy On 1/18/12, Logan McNatt wrote: > There's one relatively recent marriage that is still intact. Bob West & > Cindy Chamberlain married in Longhorn Cavern on May 6, 2006. I was > honored to be Bob's Best Man, and it was the only time I've ever worn a tux > and cowboy boots in a cave. > Logan > > On 1/18/2012 11:49 AM, Frank Binney wrote: > > Have any marriages lasted that had their wedding celebrations in a cave? > I recall a number of underground weddings over the years officiated by > Reverend Ediger or other ordained cavers but as far as I recall all ended in > divorce. > --Frank > > > On 1/18/12 9:02 AM, "Gill Edigar" wrote: > > In April of 1969, just before or just after a trip to Golondrinas, I > sent in a 6-cent postcard with my and Jette Feduska's names and > addresses on it--no money, no nuthin else--and received our > ordinations in the Universal Life Church a few days later. For 3-cents > I got ordained. Carta Valley SUCKS was in full swing at the time and I > performed baptisms at several caver functions ranging from State > College, Pennsylvania to California (and an NSS BOG party in Buda) > with water from Oztotl's Cave in Mexico provided by the Bittingers. In > the early '80s I joined the rabble at the Church of the Sub-Genius as > the Rev Theophilus Punnoval and still have and wear my Bob Dobbs shirt > (printed in my silk screen shop at Mockingburd 300). I've probably > done something somewhat fewer than 30 weddings in all--a few in caves, > on mountain tops and rivers, and on rope high up a cliff. > > --Ediger > > > > > - > Visit our website: http://texascavers.com > To unsubscribe, e-mail: texascavers-unsubscr...@texascavers.com > For additional commands, e-mail: texascavers-h...@texascavers.com > > - Visit our website: http://texascavers.com To unsubscribe, e-mail: texascavers-unsubscr...@texascavers.com For additional commands, e-mail: texascavers-h...@texascavers.com
Re: [Texascavers] Re: in-cave marriages
I know of a non-caver wedding celebrated in Longhorn Caverns that has since been dissolved. If there's a pox on Weddings in Caves, it seems it may not be specific to Cavers (which had always been my pereception). -cathy On 1/18/12, Logan McNatt wrote: > There's one relatively recent marriage that is still intact. Bob West & > Cindy Chamberlain married in Longhorn Cavern on May 6, 2006. I was > honored to be Bob's Best Man, and it was the only time I've ever worn a tux > and cowboy boots in a cave. > Logan > > On 1/18/2012 11:49 AM, Frank Binney wrote: > > Have any marriages lasted that had their wedding celebrations in a cave? > I recall a number of underground weddings over the years officiated by > Reverend Ediger or other ordained cavers but as far as I recall all ended in > divorce. > --Frank > > > On 1/18/12 9:02 AM, "Gill Edigar" wrote: > > In April of 1969, just before or just after a trip to Golondrinas, I > sent in a 6-cent postcard with my and Jette Feduska's names and > addresses on it--no money, no nuthin else--and received our > ordinations in the Universal Life Church a few days later. For 3-cents > I got ordained. Carta Valley SUCKS was in full swing at the time and I > performed baptisms at several caver functions ranging from State > College, Pennsylvania to California (and an NSS BOG party in Buda) > with water from Oztotl's Cave in Mexico provided by the Bittingers. In > the early '80s I joined the rabble at the Church of the Sub-Genius as > the Rev Theophilus Punnoval and still have and wear my Bob Dobbs shirt > (printed in my silk screen shop at Mockingburd 300). I've probably > done something somewhat fewer than 30 weddings in all--a few in caves, > on mountain tops and rivers, and on rope high up a cliff. > > --Ediger > > > > > - > Visit our website: http://texascavers.com > To unsubscribe, e-mail: texascavers-unsubscr...@texascavers.com > For additional commands, e-mail: texascavers-h...@texascavers.com > > - Visit our website: http://texascavers.com To unsubscribe, e-mail: texascavers-unsubscr...@texascavers.com For additional commands, e-mail: texascavers-h...@texascavers.com
