Re: [Texascavers] Backcountry preps - part 2

[Chris Vreeland via Texascavers]

Yeah, we left your little truck about a mile from Potrero Redondo in ‘95 when 
it would go no further, & it was all still there when we got back to it several 
days later. 

That was the trip that the Grey Pendejo got its name. The Holly carb on that 
thing was crap & the linkage kept slipping out of low gear rolling downhill. 
The water literally boiled off of my brakes at one of the river fords. I was 
lucky the disks didn’t crack.

Chris Vreeland 

> On Nov 22, 2017, at 7:35 AM, Charles Loving via Texascavers 
>  wrote:
> 
> Amzing. I drive to the Sierra del Burro with one spare and no wheel locks in 
> my 2002 Pickup on Firestone tires that are at least a year old and a spare 
> that has never been on the ground and my mechanic says is dangerous. So far I 
> havemade three four or five day trips and two out to Alpine and the desert 
> out there. Bockbeer is a strange critter but I will soon post the new cartoon 
> series the boring adventures of Bockbeer and his estranged Sequoia.
> 
>> On Tue, Nov 21, 2017 at 4:46 PM, David via Texascavers 
>>  wrote:
>> From David Locklear
>> 
>> An irrelevant story about tires:
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> I continued my quest today to prepare for a 3 day road-trip into the rural 
>> roads of northern Mexico.
>> 
>> I went to about 20 used tire shops in search of a very specific all-terrain 
>> tire that I wanted for my 18 inch junkyard steel rims.
>> 
>> So far I have spent today on 3 tires, ( only installing 2 ) was $ 360.
>> 
>> The size is 265/70R18 which is an odd rare size but common on the internet.  
>> It is 5 narrower and 5 taller that the street tires pictured.
>> 
>> One is a Falken Rocky Mountain ( not pictured ).  The other identical but 
>> different name, Falken Wild Country, and the 3rd a B.F. Goodrich, all new in 
>> never used condition.
>> 
>> I also bought the cheap PepBoy's wheel locks for $ 14 that can be knocked 
>> off with any sledge hammer, if you hit them just right.
>> 
>> I did all of this in Spanish - probably saving about $ 75, but I also spent 
>> $ 20 on gas searching for the tires.
>> 
>> I am done with work until the 28th.
>> 
>> I just have to find some money, and if it ain't in the mailbox when I get 
>> home late tonight, then I will have to wait another day to check the mail, 
>> and then possibly cancel my road-trip, after all that wacky hoopla.
>> 
>> Then there is an ordeal beyond words, dealing with the sweet lady mentioned 
>> in previous post.  She claims that she is going solo on her own to Monterrey 
>> from our house in her P.O.S. car with crappy tires ( yelling in a very loud 
>> deranged tone of voice interjected with colorful Spanish words like  
>> super-c*brone," and "inutil." ).
>> 
>> At the moment, I have 3 functioning spare tires, but I only hope to take one 
>> of them.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> I mentioned about previous trips being clusterph*cks.   Yesterday, I finally 
>> learned where the tool is hidden on the Sequoia that lowers the spare tire.  
>>  I also learned that the lug-wrench did not match the lug nuts and that the 
>> hidden jack looks like it has never been used and I never knew it was hidden 
>> there.   I did not even know it had a jack, and the jack that I had been 
>> carrying was a tiny one off my old Camry and was probably worthless for 
>> changing a tire on a big 2008 Sequoia on the side of the road.  I have had 
>> this vehicle 17 months and put 65,000 miles in it, I think.
>> 
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> 
> 
> 
> -- 
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Re: [Texascavers] Speleo-ready truck

[Chris Vreeland via Texascavers]

I can guarantee that thing gets 10 mpg hiway, 8 mpg city. It's a year or two 
newer than The Grey Pendejo was, but essentially the same truck with minor body 
style differences. Not a smart long-distance choice unless you're unimaginably 
wealthy.

Chris Vreeland 

> On Jul 10, 2017, at 5:27 PM, David via Texascavers 
>  wrote:
> 
> I found this antique truck near the town of Chapell Hill on Hwy. 290
> 
> Solid front axle with leaf-springs.  Dual gas tank.  3 speed manual on the 
> floor
> 
> Custom Deluxe 20.
> 
> Diamond-plate flat-bed
> 
> Super-duty bumpers
> 
> Clean with metallic paint job.
> 
> Bench seat.
> 
> Headache rack.
> 
> Tel.  979-421-3866
> 
> I am taking a wild guess it is a 1982 Chevrolet K20.
> 
> Heavy duty custom side-rails.
> 
> I have a rear photo.
> 
> David Locklear
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Re: [Texascavers] The Texas Caver

[Chris Vreeland via Texascavers]

I was editor, or co-editor back in the mid-90's when we tried this, & it helped 
a little for the first few months & all the correspondents slowly drifted away 
from the idea mentally.

I had lots of capable help from co-editors - Jay Jorden & Jim Kennedy in 
particular, & great proofreaders in Katie Arens & Joy Kennedy & a quality 
printer in Terry Raines, lots of help with mailing from Gill, etc. I'm sure 
I've left some people out.

Even so, it was a difficult, time consuming task, & beating the bushes for 
material was the worst chore of them all. I wrote a small amount of it myself, 
just to have things to fill issues. I worked at it for about 3 years total, & 
while I got compliments & thanks, I endured enough baseless criticism & 
pointless complaints that I don't think I'd go back to it mainly for that 
reason, especially in light of the fusillades launched here on cavetex in the 
last few days. (I briefly entertained the thought, then noped out after the one 
from Kunath.) Back then, one person even complained that one of my issues was 
too big & extravagant after I had decided to personally foot the bill for the 
difference between the budgeted cost & the cost overrun to print it. I got no 
response after pointing that out in a reply. That email exchange felt GREAT. 

No good deed goes unpunished, indeed.

Chris Vreeland

> On Oct 28, 2016, at 1:37 PM, Mark Minton via Texascavers 
>  wrote:
> 
>   We actually did that back in the ‘90s. Every grotto had a correspondent 
> that wrote summaries of trip reports given at their meetings and then sent 
> them to the Texas Caver editor. Each TC issue had a section on Grotto Reports 
> or some such, with a paragraph or two from each grotto that sent in 
> something. I did it for UTG for a while. Seemed like a good idea to me, but I 
> don’t think it lasted very long. Not sure why – I guess many correspondents 
> got lazy, moved away, etc. Shouldn’t be hard to reinstate if interest is high 
> enough, and it would be easier now with email.
> 
> Mark Minton
> 
> mmin...@caver.net
> 
> 
> On Fri, 28 Oct, 2016 at 12:08 PM, Charles Loving via Texascavers 
>  wrote:
>  
> To: Cavers Texas
> Another stupid idea of mine. I don't have a clue as to how many grottos there 
> are or caver clubs. Each one should elect a scribe and send the e-mail 
> reports to a central place. Editor in chief. You can send photos too. This is 
> a picture of Crash Kennedy being eaten by Godzilla at Dimbulb Cave in  Lower 
> Slobovia.
> 
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Re: [Texascavers] [TCR T-Shirts Request For Transport to Paradise Canyon]

[Chris Vreeland via Texascavers]

Grace picked them up last night - thanks.

> On Oct 12, 2016, at 11:38 PM, Jenny Holt via Texascavers 
> <texascavers@texascavers.com> wrote:
> 
> I hope you had someone pick up your T-Shirts. Don emailed me to hold off to 
> see if your other options worked out. Let me know-thx!
> Jenny
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Oct 12, 2016, at 6:52 AM, Chris Vreeland via Texascavers 
>> <texascavers@texascavers.com> wrote:
>> 
>> One is about 18 x 18 x 24, the other is about half that size. Call first- 
>> Grace may be coming by, but a backup plan is good 512-289-3510
>> 
>>> On Oct 11, 2016, at 11:52 PM, Jenny Holt via Texascavers 
>>> <texascavers@texascavers.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>> How big are the boxes?  Chris, can you contact me off list?  I may be able 
>>> to help. 
>>> jhol...@hotmail.com. I'm going down Friday early afternoon, and may be able 
>>> to pick them up from you after work Wednesday evening.
>>> Jenny Holt
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>> 
>>>> On Oct 11, 2016, at 11:37 PM, Don Arburn via Texascavers 
>>>> <texascavers@texascavers.com> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> I don't think he can. He requested them to be picked up at his place.
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> --Don
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> --Don
>>>>> On Oct 11, 2016, at 11:29 PM, Stefan Creaser via Texascavers 
>>>>> <texascavers@texascavers.com> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> I can, probably, since I'm bringing a trailer. Can he get them to me?
>>>>> 
>>>>> Stefan Creaser
>>>>> Staff Design Engineer; Physical Design Group; ARM
>>>>> 5707 Southwest Parkway, Bldg 1, Suite 100, Austin, TX 78735, USA.
>>>>> Direct: +1-512-314-1012, Internal: 11012.
>>>>> Email: stefan.crea...@arm.com. Skype: stefan_creaser
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> -Original Message-
>>>>> From: Texascavers [mailto:texascavers-boun...@texascavers.com] On Behalf 
>>>>> Of Don Arburn via Texascavers
>>>>> Sent: Tuesday, October 11, 2016 11:27 PM
>>>>> To: TSA Cavers List
>>>>> Subject: [Texascavers] [TCR T-Shirts Request For Transport to Paradise 
>>>>> Canyon]
>>>>> 
>>>>> Chris has prior obligations and cannot bring the TCR shirts to Paradise 
>>>>> Canyon. Is there anyone in the Austin area, or passing through, able to 
>>>>> pick up the two boxes of shirts and see them to this years reunion? 
>>>>> Wednesday is his best day to do this. Please?
>>>>> 
>>>>> --Don
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
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>>>>> httpI hope you had someone pick up your T-Shirts. Don emailed me to hold 
>>>>> off to see if your other options worked out. Let me know-thx!
> Jenny
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Oct 12, 2016, at 6:52 AM, Chris Vreeland via Texascavers 
>> <texascavers@texascavers.com> wrote:
>> 
>> One is about 18 x 18 x 24, the other is about half that size. Call first- 
>> Grace may be coming by, but a backup plan is good 512-289-3510
>> 
>>> On Oct 11, 2016, at 11:52 PM, Jenny Holt via Texascavers 
>>> <texascavers@texascavers.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>> How big are the boxes?  Chris, can you contact me off list?  I may be able 
>>> to help. 
>>> jhol...@hotmail.com. I'm going down Friday early afternoon, and may be able 
>>> to pick them up from you after work Wednesday evening.
>>> Jenny Holt
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>> 
>>>> On Oct 11, 2016, at 11:37 PM, Don Arburn via Texascavers 
>>>> <texascavers@texascavers.com> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> I don't think he can. He requested them to be picked up at his place.
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> --Don
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> --Don
>>>>> On Oct 11, 2016, at 11:29 PM, Stefan Creaser via Texascavers 
>>>>> <texascavers@texascavers.com> wrote:
>>>>> 
>&

Re: [Texascavers] [TCR T-Shirts Request For Transport to Paradise Canyon]

[Chris Vreeland via Texascavers]

One is about 18 x 18 x 24, the other is about half that size. Call first- Grace 
may be coming by, but a backup plan is good 512-289-3510

> On Oct 11, 2016, at 11:52 PM, Jenny Holt via Texascavers 
>  wrote:
> 
> How big are the boxes?  Chris, can you contact me off list?  I may be able to 
> help. 
> jhol...@hotmail.com. I'm going down Friday early afternoon, and may be able 
> to pick them up from you after work Wednesday evening.
> Jenny Holt
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Oct 11, 2016, at 11:37 PM, Don Arburn via Texascavers 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> I don't think he can. He requested them to be picked up at his place.
>> 
>> 
>> --Don
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> --Don
>>> On Oct 11, 2016, at 11:29 PM, Stefan Creaser via Texascavers 
>>>  wrote:
>>> 
>>> I can, probably, since I'm bringing a trailer. Can he get them to me?
>>> 
>>> Stefan Creaser
>>> Staff Design Engineer; Physical Design Group; ARM
>>> 5707 Southwest Parkway, Bldg 1, Suite 100, Austin, TX 78735, USA.
>>> Direct: +1-512-314-1012, Internal: 11012.
>>> Email: stefan.crea...@arm.com. Skype: stefan_creaser
>>> 
>>> 
>>> -Original Message-
>>> From: Texascavers [mailto:texascavers-boun...@texascavers.com] On Behalf Of 
>>> Don Arburn via Texascavers
>>> Sent: Tuesday, October 11, 2016 11:27 PM
>>> To: TSA Cavers List
>>> Subject: [Texascavers] [TCR T-Shirts Request For Transport to Paradise 
>>> Canyon]
>>> 
>>> Chris has prior obligations and cannot bring the TCR shirts to Paradise 
>>> Canyon. Is there anyone in the Austin area, or passing through, able to 
>>> pick up the two boxes of shirts and see them to this years reunion? 
>>> Wednesday is his best day to do this. Please?
>>> 
>>> --Don
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
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Re: [Texascavers] Fwd: UTG program last night

[Chris Vreeland via Texascavers]

That was Charlie Loving. I have travelled internationally with Mr. Loving on 2 
of the most memorable trips of my life, especially our loosely organized jaunt 
to Puerto Rico in '95 or '96 where we saw the Cueva Angeles portion of the Rio 
Camuy system. It was a trip in both senses of the word -- there are some 
mediocre pics on my Flickr page. 
https://flickr.com/photos/76711952@N00/sets/1180258

Chris Vreeland NSS# 41811 shoe size 11.

> On Aug 4, 2016, at 2:04 PM, via Texascavers  
> wrote:
> 
> Who travels a lot?
>  
> I fail to understand why someone who wants to rattle on about whatever cannot 
> find the time to sign their post.
>  
> With the exception of Messrs. Steele, Minton, and Locklear It appears that 
> 99% of those who post to this list fall into two categories, those who have 
> no name, and those whose name includes a list of achievements and honorifics 
> plus a wrongly attributed aphorism and perhaps some keyboard generated "art" 
> if you wish to so abuse the term.
>  
> A recognizable pseudonym will do, such as...
>  
> Sleazeweazel
>  
> ps: Just to be a jerk I have purposefully failed to truncate the extraneous 
> information in this thread. It is so much easier to just hit 'reply'. That 
> way I get to waste your time rather than my own.
>  
> In a message dated 8/4/2016 12:31:25 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, 
> texascavers@texascavers.com writes:
> You travel a lot. 
> 
> I traveled a lot before I reached 60. 
> Africa, South America, Central America, Europe and all those places.  Spent 
> years in Colombia and Peru. Got stuck in Argentina during the Malvinas War. 
> Lived in Real de Catorce for five years all in the era before technology and 
> never thought or missed it. I guess since I don't use it I don't miss it. I 
> still like steel nibbled pens that you dip into an ink well to do art. 
> Something about that makes a connection, you can't make amistake. 
> 
> Sent faxes from Talara, Peru in those days. Flew in Portuguese helicopters in 
> Angola and Italian ones in Zaire. It was all good fun and devious.  Did 
> somethings in Africa with the French military mission as a liaison person, 
> since I was raised with that as my first language back when I was going to 
> grade school in Switzerland.
> 
>> On Thu, Aug 4, 2016 at 11:17 AM, Bill Steele via Texascavers 
>>  wrote:
>> Que lastima. I'm not as old as you (two months from 68). I was on the cusp 
>> of Internet technology and am glad I have it. I have an iPhone 6 and use it 
>> constantly. Live the way you want to. I sure do. 
>> 
>>> On Aug 4, 2016, at 11:06 AM, Charles Loving via Texascavers 
>>>  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Down load an AP  to my phone. Oh no, I don't have one of those kinds of 
>>> phones. In fact I have two phones that I never use because there is no 
>>> service where I live and I am too lazy and cheap to get Skyp or some such. 
>>> No one ever calls, not even my kids and there is no actual reason for 
>>> anyone to call, since I never do anything or go anywhere. I just have a 
>>> clunky computer. So I guess that is another technological wash for the 
>>> ludite.
>>> 
 On Thu, Aug 4, 2016 at 10:21 AM, Bill Steele via Texascavers 
  wrote:
 I've been asked how to find the 46 minute video. Here's the link:
 
 https://www.periscope.tv/UTGrotto/1YqxoZydnYaJv
 
 It goes, 
 
 Bill Steele 
 cwilliamste...@gmail.com
 
 
 Begin forwarded message:
 
> From: Bill Steele 
> Date: August 4, 2016 at 7:28:44 AM CDT
> To: texascavers@texascavers.com
> Subject: UTG program last night
> Last night, from the comfort of my home in Irving, Texas, I watched and 
> enjoyed the program live from Austin. I used the app Periscope. It was 
> easy. 
> 
> The program was a slide show and lively narrative by Fernando Hernandez 
> about this year's PESH (Proyecto Espeleologico Sistema Huautla) 
> expedition. This was Fernando's first trip to Huautla. His perspective as 
> a Mexican citizen, excellent caver, fluent in English, and culturally 
> sensitive, made for a very interesting talk. 
> 
> My understanding is that the video of Fernando's talk will be available 
> at Periscope for a short amount of time. 
> 
> One thing that Fernando did not mention is that he was the winner of the 
> PESH 2016 Expedition "Rookie of the Year" award. He hustled underground 
> and was a pleasure to be around. 
> 
> Cavingly,
> 
> Bill Steele 
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>>> 
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Re: [Texascavers] January & February Government Canyon Karst Project Report

[Chris Vreeland via Texascavers]

Marvin, I'd love to see your pictures of Sure Sink. I have a couple of the 
entrance, but never took the camera in the cave.

> On Mar 3, 2016, at 8:49 PM, Marvin and Lisa via Texascavers 
>  wrote:
> 
> Government Canyon Karst Project Report
>  
> January 2, 2016
>  
> Participants: Pam Campbell, Bennett Lee, Leah Miller, Marvin Miller, Joe 
> Schaertl
>  
> Saturday was a cold, rainy day but 3 participants showed up to join my 
> daughter Leah and me. Because of the weather I decided we would do a 
> monitoring trip into Dancing Rattler Cave. I also thought that Leah might be 
> able to make it through a tight, fragile spot to inspect a lead that I had 
> known about for a long time.
>  
> The woods were wet and cold but the cave was dry and warm. We all made it 
> through the first three squeezes but Pam had a bit of a struggle. She decided 
> not to negotiate the last obstacle which requires a backward squirm into a 
> short pit. Leah is short enough she was able to do it head first and get her 
> legs under her into the pit. Once in the Dance Hall section of the cave I 
> took Leah to the place where a screen of stalagmites and stalactites prevents 
> a larger person from getting to the space beyond. Leah was able to make it 
> through and reported that the holes beyond were too small. I then led her, 
> Bennett, and Joe to the Pool Hall. We hoped to find the rimstone pools below 
> the Frozen Cascade full of water but they were dry. We then exited the cave 
> and returned to the Volunteer/Research Station. Our trip had taken about 3 
> hours.
>  
> February 6 & 7, 2016
>  
> Participants: Kolin Beam, Luciano Bejerano, Bernadette Flehmer, Sarah Gorton, 
> Leia Hill, Marvin Miller, Kevin Pride, Joe Schaertl, Matt Waterreus
>  
> On Saturday, Joe led Kolin, Sarah, and Matt to ridgewalk in Area 9. They 
> finished an unwalked region close to the south end of the area and 
> immediately west of the Sendero Balcones trail, and then proceeded to do a 
> transect along the northern boundary of the area. Unfortunately, the team 
> found nothing to reward their efforts.
>  
> I led Bernadette, Leia, and Kevin to continue excavating feature FC-096, 
> which is a fairly large sink that my daughter Leah and I started working on 
> in September, 2015. The sink is also located in Area 9. We dug the floor of 
> the sink down to a rock floor that sloped on into the sink. We continued to 
> dig in the narrow confines between floor and ceiling until we confirmed that 
> we were just digging out a bedding plane void with just a few cm of air space 
> between the in-filling dirt and the ceiling. When we couldn’t see any hope of 
> getting into a larger space we stopped the dig.
>  
> It was only about 3:00 so I suggested we head back to Sendero Balcones and go 
> north the short distance to Sure Sink. Those who wished could explore the 
> cave. While hiking north we met Joe’s team coming south. They had had their 
> fill of brush-crashing with no reward. They turned around and headed north 
> with us to the cave. Kevin, Joe, Kolin, Leiah, Sarah, and I entered the cave, 
> but not all at once, because it isn’t big enough for that many. While small, 
> the cave has some challenging tight spots and some fun climbs. I took some 
> photos in the cave.
>  
>  
> On Sunday Leia and Kevin were back and we were joined by Luciano Bejarano. 
> Luciano was the discoverer of Lilyhammer Cave in December of 2014 and he 
> hadn’t been back to the project since then. Knowing that there was a dig lead 
> in the cave that needed micro-blasting, I decided that with Luciano joining 
> us, it was the appropriate time to go work on this lead. The trek to the cave 
> is a long one and we got there about lunch time. The cave is located in a 
> creek bed and takes considerable water at high flow levels. Leia had been on 
> the team that first explored the cave but I hadn’t been there since the day 
> Luciano found it on a ridgewalk. On that day we had not been able to proceed 
> past the small entrance room.
>  
> We traversed the sloping entrance crawl for 5 meters and then the floor 
> dropped about half-a-meter into a higher space. A fracture oriented 
> perpendicular to the entrance passage contributes to the taller ceiling in 
> this area. In less than 2 meters the ceiling comes back down to about 30 cm 
> from the floor and extends at this height and 4 meters wide in the same 
> direction as the entrance passage for an uncertain distance. However, this 
> space is mostly filled with organic debris and dirt washed in from the 
> surface. At the left end of the larger space the ceiling comes down and the 
> walls come together to form a constriction, with more space visible beyond at 
> a higher level than the low, dirt-filled extension. Two previous teams had 
> tried to get through this spot with muscle power alone. Using micro-shaving 
> techniques we removed several inches of rock from the right wall. Then 
> 

Re: [Texascavers] Castleguard Cave movie

[Chris Vreeland via Texascavers]

This is an amazing film! 80-foot cable ladder descents! Carbide lamps! Also, an 
amazing cave.

Thanks, Bill!

On Nov 13, 2015, at 7:3755 PM, Mixon Bill via Texascavers 
 wrote:

> Sid Perou's movie about Castleguard Cave in the Canadian Rockies is on 
> YouTube at
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7Lpa7I1SNu0
> 
> This was filmed (on actual film; remember that?) in 1973 and for a long time 
> was hard to find, because of some sort of rights problem that precluded 
> making videotapes of it. I think Frank Binney worked with Sid on the film as 
> sound recorder, although I think I've heard that the voices recorded in the 
> cave couldn't be used because they were all in English, so, the cave being 
> owned by Parks Canada, everything had to be dubbed in both English and 
> French. Maybe Frank can tell the tale.
> 
> If up go to that URL, YouTube will also recommend a lot of other old caving 
> films by Sid Perou. -- Mixon
> 
> A man cannot be too careful in his choice of enemies.
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Re: [Texascavers] cleanup scheduled at TCMA's Lost Oasis Cave Preserve

[Chris Vreeland via Texascavers]

Reminder, The Lost Oasis workday is on for next Saturday. Gill is bringing the 
chipper. Jim Kennedy and Ron Ralph are bringing chainsaws -- I was out at the 
site this morning,  we've got quite a bit of dead wood to cut, so I'm still 
looking for folks to come  help feed it into the chipper  to help pull up 
prickly pear.

Bring gloves  bow rakes, if you have them.

We'll start at 9 AM -- the preserve is at 4019 Lost Oasis Hollow, 78739, across 
the street from Bailey middle school.

Hope to see you there!
Chris
 
On Mar 15, 2015, at 8:2043 PM, Crash Kennedy via Texascavers 
texascavers@texascavers.com wrote:

 The Lost Oasis Cave Preserve in South Austin is having a cleanup day
 Saturday, April 4th from 9 am until about 2 pm, or until everyone gets
 tired.
 
 All in all, we could probably use 20-30 people, considering the
 multiple chores we're hoping to take care of.
 
 There are three or four dead trees that need to be cut, and a lot of
 new-growth juniper that should be thinned.  We would like to have at
 least two people bring and operate chainsaws.  We need another 6-8
 people to be saw attendants and draggers.  Gill Ediger is bringing the
 big chipper so that we can feed these and several piles of old cut
 brush into it and make mulch. Feel free to bring bags, buckets, or
 tubs to take some mulch home for your yards.  We'll have plenty.
 
 We also need to start doing more active need to do fire ant control,
 so we would like several people to bring big pots and boilers (and 3-4
 five-gallon jugs of water each) so we can pour boiling water on the
 mounds. There is a lot of this to do -- probably 50-100 mounds, so
 we'd like four or more boilers and people unafraid to haul pots. Once
 we know how many boilers we can have on site, we will coordinate
 picking up propane tanks for same.
 
 And if you don't want to drag brush or carry buckets of boiling water,
 we have another chore for you.  We will start thinning the profusion
 of prickly pear around the cave, so bring bow rakes (garden rakes),
 pitchforks, clam rakes, and other similar tools to help with that
 project.
 
 Everyone should bring gloves and dress appropriately.  TCMA will
 provide coolers with beverages.
 
 After the work is finished, Preserve Manager Chris Vreeland will be
 happy to open the cave for anyone who wants to see it.  A helmet and
 headlamp are required, but you don't need much else.
 
 Contact Chris offlist at cvreel...@austin.rr.com to sign up, volunteer
 for a particular task, or to get directions.
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[Texascavers] Nebo flashlight

[Chris Vreeland via Texascavers]

Not usually one to write this sort of stuff, but I just stopped by the hardware 
store  bought this on a whim:

https://www.nebotools.com/prod_details.php?id=31cid=16subid=94subsubcid=45
 
I like it because it's the same width as the body of a 2 x AA Maglight  looks 
like it'll be helmet-mountable with zip ties  because it takes a single AA 
battery, the kind I already have in my cave pack all the time for my mag lights 
 my camera flashes. It seems sturdy (time will tell). The clip is sturdy 
enough, but comes off, which is probably for the best.

I compared it side by side with my Sten  it's about as bright as the Sten on 
the 2nd setting, though with a more concentrated spot  quite a bit more 
blue-ish in color. Seems like a great backup light for $9.99.


Chris Vreeland

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[Texascavers] Semi-impromptu dig trip to Lost Oasis 12-27

[Chris Vreeland via Texascavers]

Fellow Austinintes: Are you going to be bored out of your mind by Saturday 
morning  need an excuse to get out of the house for a few hours?

I'm heading down to Lost Oasis at 10 AM Saturday the 27th to commence to moving 
some rubble, and would like the help of 3-4 people if anyone's up for it. Email 
me back privately at cvreel...@austin.rr.com if you feel like hauling buckets 
of rocks  potentially squeezing though tight cracks.

Will probably just stay 2-3 hours, since I'm old  out of shape.

Chris 
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Re: [Texascavers] locklear

[Chris Vreeland via Texascavers]

Wow. That's really uncalled for on a public forum. 

 On Dec 20, 2014, at 3:48 PM, Julie Jenkins via Texascavers 
 texascavers@texascavers.com wrote:
 
 I gotta say this- lockear, most of the time u don't know what the hell yur 
 talking about!!
 All u posts r crap U sir know nothing clearly factual about any Austin 
 caves and I doubt what ever in may accidentally read that u post. So I don't 
 have to put up with seeing yur BS and complete crap. I've chosen to block yur 
 name from any type of contact, FB , or anything else!
 David, shut the F---k Up! And quit posting
 
 Jules 
 
 
 
 On Dec 20, 2014, at 3:09 PM, via Texascavers texascavers@texascavers.com 
 wrote:
 
 Cave x.is owned t regents private school. The cave passage goes directly 
 under there very nice green football field. Ive heard The school does not 
 want anyone to enter the cave in fear if finding out that all those 
 fertilizers are effecting the cave. 
 
 Galen P. Falgout 
 Sent from my iPhone
 
 On Dec 19, 2014, at 11:12 PM, David via Texascavers 
 texascavers@texascavers.com wrote:
 
 The original post about the cave in Austin mentioned something about the 
 city acquiring land. 
 
 The storm sewer lies in a highfalutin neighborhood.  It does not seem 
 practical to buy a land preserve there.
 
 The cost of ripping out the storm-sewer and doing a gov't authorized dig 
 would be a million dollars.
 
 A more worthwhile project would be something at Cave X,  which I would 
 guess is controlled by the Balcones Escarpment District, which I know 
 nothing about.
 
 David Locklear
 dlocklea...@gmail.com
 
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Re: [Texascavers] Texas Caver issue

[Chris Vreeland via Texascavers]

Hi Jill,
I seem to have a vague recollection of seeing an email a while back 
about a lit of people with address failures for the print edition of the Caver, 
 that perhaps my name was on it. I meant to respond at the time, but have 
since lost track of that email.

Anyway, can you check  see if I'm still on the mailing list for the dead-tree 
caver?

Correct address info is:
Chris Veeland
1522 W 32nd St
Austin, TX 78703

Thanks so much,
Chris

On Oct 9, 2014, at 5:2423 PM, Jill Orr via Texascavers 
texascavers@texascavers.com wrote:

 The Texas Caver online issue is up.
  
 And now there is also an eBook  version!  However since neither I or the TSA 
 webmaster own a Nook or tablet, and I haven’t gotten around to downloading a 
 digital book ap, I’m depending on readers with the capability for feedback.
 Thanks!
  
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 210.399.6762
 jillorr.businesscatalyst.com
  
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Re: [Texascavers] Texas Caver issue

[Chris Vreeland via Texascavers]

Obviously, I thought I was sending that last message directly to Jill  not the 
whole list. Apologies.



 On Oct 15, 2014, at 8:27 PM, Chris Vreeland via Texascavers 
 texascavers@texascavers.com wrote:
 
 Hi Jill,
   I seem to have a vague recollection of seeing an email a while back 
 about a lit of people with address failures for the print edition of the 
 Caver,  that perhaps my name was on it. I meant to respond at the time, but 
 have since lost track of that email.
 
 Anyway, can you check  see if I'm still on the mailing list for the 
 dead-tree caver?
 
 Correct address info is:
 Chris Veeland
 1522 W 32nd St
 Austin, TX 78703
 
 Thanks so much,
 Chris
 
 On Oct 9, 2014, at 5:2423 PM, Jill Orr via Texascavers 
 texascavers@texascavers.com wrote:
 
 The Texas Caver online issue is up.
  
 And now there is also an eBook  version!  However since neither I or the TSA 
 webmaster own a Nook or tablet, and I haven’t gotten around to downloading a 
 digital book ap, I’m depending on readers with the capability for feedback.
 Thanks!
  
 image003.png
 jill orr
 210.399.6762
 jillorr.businesscatalyst.com
  
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[Texascavers] Shirts picked up!

[Chris Vreeland via Texascavers]

Thanks everyone, Jim Kennedy has the TCR shirts and will deliver the to the 
TCMA tent at the site later today.


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[Texascavers] Can someone transport TCR Shirts?

[Chris Vreeland via Texascavers]

I'm looking for anyone in the Austin area who is heading to TCR either tomorrow 
or Friday AM to meet up with me to get the official reunion T-shirts  
deliver them to the TCMA tent. If I make it to the reunion at all, it won't be 
until mid-morning Saturday. 

The shirts will be ready to go tomorrow morning about 9 o'clock, after I get 
the back on them. The front came out really nice.

Chris Vreeland
512-289-3510
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Re: [Texascavers] [BexarGrotto] Honey Creek Cave in the news

[Chris Vreeland via Texascavers]

No, we set up a very similar shot, but I had Jacob off to the left side in the 
foreground in mine.

 On Sep 10, 2014, at 12:29 PM, Josh Rubinstein via Texascavers 
 texascavers@texascavers.com wrote:
 
 I think the photos of Kickapoo Cave were taken by Chris Vreeland.
 
 Josh
 
 On Wed, Sep 10, 2014 at 12:18 PM, Kurt L. Menking kmenk...@bcad.org wrote:
 I did talk to the reporter, but he obviously didn’t get all the quotes 
 right. (do they ever?)  And much of his numbers, text, and photos came from 
 his own web searches.
 
  
 
 And by the way I’m not the chairman of the TSS.  All of the caves we 
 discussed were 100% underground.  I’ve never surveyed underwater, I leave 
 that work to certified professionals.
 
  
 
 Kurt
 
  
 
 From: bexargro...@googlegroups.com [mailto:bexargro...@googlegroups.com] On 
 Behalf Of Chris Lafferty
 Sent: Wednesday, September 10, 2014 9:58 AM
 To: bexargro...@googlegroups.com
 Subject: [BexarGrotto] Honey Creek Cave in the news
 
  
 
 http://www.chron.com/news/local/article/Honey-Creek-Cave-5744500.php
 
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Re: [Texascavers] Ranch with 2 caves up for sale

[Chris Vreeland via Texascavers]

Buy it all, then subdivide  sell 3500 acres immediately, keep the caves  a 
spot big enough for TCR on the river. It's just that simple! (I can dream...)

Chris Vreeland, 
some guy in Austin

 On Sep 3, 2014, at 10:31 AM, Bob Oakley via Texascavers 
 texascavers@texascavers.com wrote:
 
 I think 4000 acres X 2000/ acre = about 8 million dollars
 
 bob oakley
 Uvalde county
 a452...@outlook.com
 
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 From: via Texascavers
 Sent: ‎Wednesday‎, ‎September‎ ‎3‎, ‎2014 ‎9‎:‎58‎ ‎AM
 To: via Texascavers
 
 
 Only about 1 million dollars and I bet they would take less.  What a great 
 project for TSA and permanent home for TCR. . . .
 
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Re: [Texascavers] Texas Caver article reminder!

[Chris Vreeland via Texascavers]

I have a govt canyon trip report finished, with photos. I need to give the 
photos a look-over tonight, but if you haven't seen it by tomorrow night, bug 
me because it's essentially done.

 On Aug 13, 2014, at 4:07 PM, Mallory via Texascavers 
 texascavers@texascavers.com wrote:
 
 Happy Wednesday everyone! 
 
 This is just a reminder to everyone that articles for the next edition of the 
 Texas Caver are due this Friday, August the 15th! Please get your articles in 
 to Jill or myself by then in order to see yourself in print and preserve the 
 awesomeness that is your caving trip by making in part of documented Texas 
 Caving History!
 
 Mallory Mayeux
 Assistant article gatherer
 mmay...@gmail.com
 
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