Re: [Texascavers] [SWR CAVERS] Andy Komensky

2017-03-29 Thread Mike Gross
I mostly read, but don't reply much in this group, since I haven't been an 
active caver at all for the past several years. But, I was a high school 
kid when Andy was one of the people who introduced me to caving and to the 
good times and camaraderie of cavers, above and below the surface. Since I 
got back involved with the cavers of the greater New Mexico area maybe 10 
years ago,I had meant to, and didn't quite get around to, getting back in 
touch with Andy. Another hard lesson in letting the time slip by . . .


Mike Gross


At 08:33 PM 3/29/2017 -0600, you wrote:
He was a character that defined “character”.  He influenced so many of 
us so many times.  He will live on in legends and campfire tales.  His 
artwork should be cherished by all those who have any in their 
possession.  A sad day, but we must celebrate his life. Carol > On Mar 29, 
2017, at 7:53 PM, Peter Jones  wrote: > > I just found 
out tonight that my friend, caving mentor, father-in-law and caving legend 
Andy Komensky passed away tonight.  I was just thinking that I had not 
heard from him lately and was ready to send him an e-mail, seeing how he 
was doing, letting him know that I’d be staying with him and Maureen on 
my way to Convention in a couple of months.  So sad that to learn that we 
already had our last time together in August on my way home from Ely last 
summer.  There are not a whole lot of other people who so affected my life 
as Andy did.  Much more to say at a later time, but I will surely miss him 
deeply and remember him for all the things that he was in so many complex 
ways. > > Cave Ho, Andy.  Love you, > > Peter > > 
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Re: [Texascavers] Video link: Ancient Apocalypse: The Mayan Collapse

2012-12-24 Thread Mike Gross
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>Mexico.   He has also made a TV documentary about this by the BBC and the 
>Learning Channel. ( Ancient Apocalypse: The Mayan Collapse ). 
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Re: [Texascavers] Video link: Ancient Apocalypse: The Mayan Collapse

2012-12-24 Thread Mike Gross
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dirt...@comcast.net wrote:

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>Richardson Gill: The Great Mayan Droughts: Water, Life, and Death (University 
>of New Mexico Press 2000).   Now translated into Spanish and published in 
>Mexico.   He has also made a TV documentary about this by the BBC and the 
>Learning Channel. ( Ancient Apocalypse: The Mayan Collapse ). 
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Re: [Texascavers] Video link: Ancient Apocalypse: The Mayan Collapse

2012-12-24 Thread Mike Gross
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dirt...@comcast.net wrote:

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>By popular request, here is the link to Gill's video 
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>Richardson Gill: The Great Mayan Droughts: Water, Life, and Death (University 
>of New Mexico Press 2000).   Now translated into Spanish and published in 
>Mexico.   He has also made a TV documentary about this by the BBC and the 
>Learning Channel. ( Ancient Apocalypse: The Mayan Collapse ). 
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>Ancient Apocalypse: The Mayan Collapse 
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>Available in 5 parts on U-tube.    Part 1: 
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>http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bab6kDtFTJA 
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RE: [Texascavers] Fwd: Fw: Scary Border Stuff...Why Haven't We Heard?

2010-06-04 Thread Mike Gross

Nico--

Bravo.
I was about to reply to caverannie and ask her to send the right wing crap 
somewhere else.
In addition to the fact that nearly all weapons in Mexico are from the US 
(among the most intractable problems for Mexican law enforcement), and that 
nearly all demand for illegal drugs is from the US,
there is also the fact -- reported in today's Austin and probably other 
newspapers -- that FBI statistics show that the area of the Mexico border 
is actually safer -- in terms of violent crime -- than many other parts of 
Texas and the country.


Saludos

Mike Gross


At 08:15 AM 6/4/2010 -0700, Stefan Creaser wrote:


Im gonna side with Nico :-)



From: Fritz Holt [mailto:fh...@townandcountryins.com]
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Subject: RE: [Texascavers] Fwd: Fw: Scary Border Stuff...Why Haven't We Heard?



Sounds like a familiar blame game.



Fritz



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To: caveran...@yahoo.com
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Subject: Re: [Texascavers] Fwd: Fw: Scary Border Stuff...Why Haven't We Heard?



I thought attachments werent allowed on the list.. Charles, are you still 
asleep or something?




with that behind let me just say a couple things:

first, read through, it was not Monterrey but Higueras NL

second this is not the first gun cache that our armed forces hace seized 
(this is like the fourth or fifth one and others have been larger)


third most if not all of this weapons are gringo made so stop complaining 
about violence spilling over to your side of the river if it is exactly 
that side where this weapons are coming from.. yes the bad guys are better 
armed because yall´s government cant do shit about arms coming into my country.




things wouldnt be this way if your country wasnt the major drug consumer 
in the world, or my country wasnt located right next to it.




back to my corner



Nico



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[Texascavers] More on USGS maps

2009-12-08 Thread Mike Gross



Date: Tue, 08 Dec 2009 17:49:09 -0600
To: mailto:texascavers@texascavers.com
From: Mike Gross 
Subject: More on USGS maps

Keep quality maps alive -- order some today.

Assuming that everyone saw the post by Preston.

The rest of the story on USGS maps is that most retail vendors have gone 
over to a system of printing out scans of the maps on the spot. An example 
is Miller Blueprint in Austin, which used to be THE source in town. The 
on-the-spot prints of scans are seriously inferior in terms of paper 
quality and print quality to the offset printed maps from USGS. A 
side-by-side of one of the ink-jet prints with a "real"  USGS map will 
make the difference jump out. The worse part is that USGS is also planning 
to stop printing maps that don't get requested often and go to the system 
of ink-jet prints of scans for the rarely-ordered maps.


The message is: order maps generously and often, and directly from USGS. 
Who ever had a map they regretted buying. It's easy and cheap at 
http://topomaps.usgs.gov/. Get the index map for states you're interested 
in to keep track of which maps cover what ground, and which ones you 
already have.



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[Texascavers] Caving Club at SFA

2009-02-23 Thread Mike Gross
Hey guys -- SFA is my alma mater. Over the 17 years from 1971 to 1988, 
migrating from Forestry to Geology to Spanish to English, I managed to get 
myself a degree there, along with lots of other adventures. I'll be trying 
to get in touch with them.


There is nice little cave in East Texas,over near Center in Shelby County.

Regards,

Mike Gross


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[Texascavers] lost my hat at the UT grotto meeting

2008-12-05 Thread Mike Gross

to all who came to the 12/3 meeting:

This is pretty trivial to use up bandwidth on, but -- I dropped my favorite 
cap at the end of the meeting, didn't realize it until I was on my way out 
of the building. By the time I got back, well, someone had found it.


I'd love to have it back if it could be done . . .

I can be reached at 448-4225 (office), or 447-9442 (home), or 
mgross@cwa-tseu,org any time.


Also, a couple of folks asked me for info on the Fort Stanton Cave project 
and copies of the DVD. Let me know how, and I'll get them to you.


Mike Gross


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[Texascavers] Camping in national forests

2008-12-01 Thread Mike Gross
After reading some of the responses to the article about overnight camping 
in national forests, it seems to me the discussion is leaving out at least 
a couple of parts.


Some of it is the aging of the baby boom generation. We're the biggest 
spike to flow through US demographics ever. When we were in our 20's and 
30's we were all out hiking and climbing (and caving), a lot of  it in 
national forests and parks. A whole industry blossomed to cater to us. REI 
carried mostly serious gear that could not be bought anywhere else . EMS, 
Sierra Designs, Chouinard/Patagonia, The North Face, Petzl, Lowe Alpine, 
SMC, and dozens of others, not to mention all the European gear that was 
being sold, took off.


As we aged, millions of us turned to easier versions of outdoor sports -- 
car camping, staying at the lodge, etc etc. My wife and I have followed the 
pattern: we used to take a real hiking trip twice a year, now we mostly go 
car camping with a few day hikes thrown in. We quit buying hard core gear, 
and fewer buyers replaced us.You can follow the trend in REI, which is 
still looking for the boomer buck: now it's heavy with clothing for town & 
country.  At the stores -- which have to sell volume to pay for themselves 
-- serious outdoor gear gets crowded into smaller corners to make room for 
clothes, "packable" espresso makers and lawn chairs, etc.


I would argue that you can't label these trends good or bad: they are just 
changes.


I don't know if the post-boomer generations are more or less interested in 
serious outdoor stuff than we were on a per-capita basis: either way there 
are just less of them (you). Judging from the folks who come to UT grotto 
meetings or who I meet out caving, serious caving, climbing, and similar 
stuff is not in decline, and the standards seem higher than ever.


I would also argue that there is another component. A bad change is the 
brutal budget cutting that has devastated public lands, along with nearly 
every other element of public infrastructure, over the past eight years. 
What hasn't been allowed to fall apart has been privatized. What's your 
response when the person running the campsite you check into is some guy 
who doesn't know all that much about it but got the contract to collect 
your fees? I'm not the only person I know who finds national parks and 
forests a lot less inviting to visit than they were 25 years ago, despite 
the heroic efforts of the few federal staff who remain. The ideological 
campaign to privatize and individualize everything has also led to higher 
and higher user fees to replace falling support from general revenue, as 
opposed to a system where our common resources (taxes) support our common 
parks and forests, and all are welcome.


Hopefully we'll see a change in direction on this basic issue: the people 
who make the decisions will be people who actually believe in and care 
about public lands, maintenance and staffing will be restored, and then 
maybe we'll see if people really don't like national forests and parks as 
much as they did in the good old days. 



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RE: [Texascavers] All border crossings to be put into a data base.

2008-08-20 Thread Mike Gross
There is a more tragic element to this basic story. The town of Boquillas 
del Carmen sits across the river from the upstream end of Boquillas Canyon, 
near Rio Grande Village at Big Bend National Park. It was part of a 
long-standing -- over 100 years -- cross-border community, with people from 
Boquillas historically coming across to shop,  families with members on 
both sides, and until recently Boquillas making nearly all of the town's 
income from park visitors crossing over for dinner, curios, a drink, etc. 
It's a long, hard drive to any major town or city in Mexico -- 300 or so km 
to Monclova and probably over 400 to Saltillo. Many long-time BBNP visitors 
knew the Falcon family in Boquillas. Jose (he was the guy in the 
wheelchair) ran the cafe for many years, died a few years ago, and his wife 
and daughter kept it going. The crossing at Boquillas had been unstaffed on 
either side at least since the early 1970's. The US facilities consisted of 
an old iron gate that could be either walked around or just opened. At 
times when the river was too high to just walk across there were always 
guys in boats (one was two car hoods welded together) to ferry you over. 
Dinner and a beer in Boquillas  was a great way to end a day in Big Bend.


All was OK, even after 9/11, until an enterprising reporter from New York 
came through in mid-2002 or so, wrote up a big expose'  of the "porous 
border" down there, people coming and going at will, etc etc (I remember 
reading the article and having a bad feeling about it). The result was that 
the crossing was slammed shut, with what I understand is almost-certain 
arrest by Border Patrol for anyone crossing in either direction. For the 
people of Boquillas (and also the people of nearby San Vicente, many of 
whom came across to work at Lajitas) it was a disaster. There was no work, 
no income, no food, no anything, and the situation apparently got very 
desperate before  nearly everyone left the two towns. I've asked in several 
places, including  a couple of longtime staff at BBNP, and nobody knows 
what became, for instance, of the Falcon family, except that "it was pretty 
bad".


I've subjected you to this rambling rant because it is truly a tragedy, 
where a thoughtless, fun little trip and story idea for some reporter 
ruined a community and the lives of numerous people. Off & on I've tried to 
find some way to get more in touch with what is happening in Boquillas, 
maybe find a way to help a little, but without much luck so far.


Regards

Mike Gross

At 02:01 PM 8/20/2008 -0400, Ted Samsel wrote:

I grew up 40 miles from Eagle Pass, but went to high school in San 
Antonio.. one of the rights of passage for a lot of teenaged boys along 
the border was going over after the football game to Boys Town..


Wonder how "Friday Night Lights" is gonna skew the data.

T.




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[Texascavers] Fort Stanton Cave (New Mexico) Snowy River

2008-07-27 Thread Mike Gross
For those interested: sending a recent AP article about Snowy River. The 
formation was pushed to over 4 miles long during the work week in early 
July. The formation has been dry for a number of months, and survey work 
has been moving forward. The linked article has one photo attached.


http://hosted.ap.org/dynamic/stories/E/EXPLORING_SNOWY_RIVER?SITE=AP&SECTION=HOME&TEMPLATE=DEFAULT



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