Re: [Texascavers] A photo of Mars
--- Begin Message --- I had to read this twice: The first time I thought you were advocating for an actual small-scale interplanetary tree transplant a la "Silent Running". Forget Mars Candy, talk to Elon Musk! On Wednesday, October 25, 2017, 7:00:24 PM CDT, Charles Loving via Texascavers wrote: Does anyone thing a Sequoia could make it to Mars? Perhaps with the help of NASA Bockbeer could be the first to drive to Mars? We could contact the Mars candy company to furnish him with enough Mars bars to make the trip. On Wed, Oct 25, 2017 at 2:24 PM, David via Texascavers wrote: This very fuzzy photo is the latest released by NASA of the rover Curiosity's ridge-walking trip. Still no caves found, nor much of anything that the general public would be enthusiastic about. However, if you zoom in to the cracks of each rock, you can see thousands of years of erosion by a variety of forces. Probably from sandstorms, heating and cooling, and maybe even some find of chemical erosion, and maybe even a liquid compound from a eon or even eons ago. __ _ Texascavers mailing list | http://texascavers.com Texascavers@texascavers.com | Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/ texascavers@texascavers.com/ http://lists.texascavers.com/ listinfo/texascavers -- Charlie Loving___ Texascavers mailing list | http://texascavers.com Texascavers@texascavers.com | Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/texascavers@texascavers.com/ http://lists.texascavers.com/listinfo/texascavers --- End Message --- ___ Texascavers mailing list | http://texascavers.com Texascavers@texascavers.com | Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/texascavers@texascavers.com/ http://lists.texascavers.com/listinfo/texascavers
Re: [Texascavers] Green place in Mexico (Skinner Lee via Texascavers)
Gastón Santos sounds like a pretty interesting dude. Here is the Spanish Wiki for him: Gastón Santos - Wikipedia, la enciclopedia libre | | | | || | | | | | Gastón Santos - Wikipedia, la enciclopedia libre | | | | RD Milhollin From: Charles Loving via Texascavers To: Cavers Texas Sent: Monday, January 16, 2017 12:52 PM Subject: Re: [Texascavers] Green place in Mexico (Skinner Lee via Texascavers) Gaston Santos father was the Gov. of SLP and owned the ranch across the street from the hotel in Tamuin. We had his permission to cave but had to extra careful because he raised Toros for the corrida. He also had student protestors shot in SLP and was fired.Gaston Jr was a bull fighter and a pal of Foxey and a UT grad. On Mon, Jan 16, 2017 at 11:46 AM, via Texascavers wrote: Now we are getting somewhere! Aside from the Zetas, etc, why is the place so unpopulated? Bad dirt? Wretched vegetation? Thorn scrub never stopped a Mexican or a cow, and neither does cloud forest. Are these mountains older than the Sierra Madre Oriental? Different orogeny? Subsequent up igneous oozing? Salt dome? Nascent volcano? These are reputed to be "sky island" mountains but they seem too low and insufficiently isolated for that to be the case from a biogeographical perspective. Has anyone seen any cute little rattlesnakes there? Any other weird endemism? And why is Zacaton so deep? Is the whole area subsiding or is sulphuric acid rising up from Hell? After Trump takes office will it be possible to apply to either the Zetas or the Gulf cartel for political asylum? If so how can they be reached? Sleaze In a message dated 1/16/2017 12:07:47 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, texascavers@texascavers.com writes: There is, or was remnant cloud forest there. On Sun, Jan 15, 2017 at 11:50 AM, Lee H. Skinner via Texascavers wrote: On 1/15/2017 10:00 AM, Bill Mixon via Texascavers wrote: That valley El Picharo is certainly a curious feature. I wonder if it is an old caldera. Whole region looks virtually uninhabited, which might (or might not) make it a place for people up to no good to hang out. Surroundings seems to have well-developed surface drainage. -- Mixon I wonder if it could be an old meteor crater? Lee __ _ Texascavers mailing list | http://texascavers.com Texascavers@texascavers.com | Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/te xascav...@texascavers.com/ http://lists.texascavers.com/l istinfo/texascavers -- Charlie Loving __ _ Texascavers mailing list | http://texascavers.com Texascavers@texascavers.com | Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/ texascavers@texascavers.com/ http://lists.texascavers.com/ listinfo/texascavers __ _ Texascavers mailing list | http://texascavers.com Texascavers@texascavers.com | Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/ texascavers@texascavers.com/ http://lists.texascavers.com/ listinfo/texascavers -- Charlie Loving ___ Texascavers mailing list | http://texascavers.com Texascavers@texascavers.com | Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/texascavers@texascavers.com/ http://lists.texascavers.com/listinfo/texascavers ___ Texascavers mailing list | http://texascavers.com Texascavers@texascavers.com | Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/texascavers@texascavers.com/ http://lists.texascavers.com/listinfo/texascavers
[Texascavers] Bats and Wind Turbine Research at TCU
This story was featured on a radio news spot on local NPR affiliate KERA and on the statewide NPR program Texas Standard. http://www.star-telegram.com/news/local/community/fort-worth/article86833592.html | | | | || | | | | | TCU lab tries to save bats from death by wind turbine Those towering wind turbines that harness the wind’s power kill a lot of bats every year. | | | | RD MilhollinFort Worth ___ Texascavers mailing list | http://texascavers.com Texascavers@texascavers.com | Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/texascavers@texascavers.com/ http://lists.texascavers.com/listinfo/texascavers
[Texascavers] Texas Sinkholes: Wink and Kermit Sinks Expanding
Reported in the Fort Worth Star-Telegram: http://www.star-telegram.com/news/state/texas/article84269782.html | | | | || | | | | | Two giant sinkholes in West Texas expanding, researchers say The giant sinkholes between the West Texas towns of Wink and Kermit could eventually converge into one gigantic ... | | | | ___ Texascavers mailing list | http://texascavers.com Texascavers@texascavers.com | Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/texascavers@texascavers.com/ http://lists.texascavers.com/listinfo/texascavers
Re: [Texascavers] Texascavers Digest, Vol 23, Issue 11
This purchase was a mistake from the beginning.There were several options presented and this one was pushed through by a political group within the NSS leadership at that time, many of whom continue in office today. The building is far too large for the needs of a shrinking society, and according to well-placed and knowledgeable individuals involved with the financing will be a money pit into the future. I don't believe this issue was even discussed at the recent BOG meeting. Bill is a has taken on a mammoth task trying to save the society from the consequences of this blunder, and I wish him all luck. The most safe thing to do, however, is to start trying to find a buyer for the building to avoid a foreclosure. I am totally opposed to robbing the Life Member's fund to pay the note, that is not it was intended for and would most likely never be paid back. The loss of investment income would further cripple the society's ability to accomplish its mission. From: Alex Sproul via Texascavers To: via Texascavers Sent: Thursday, May 12, 2016 1:25 PM Subject: Re: [Texascavers] Texascavers Digest, Vol 23, Issue 11 On behalf of Bill Jackson: By now you NSS members with an email address on file will have receivedthe emailed Spring Appeal Letter. A hard copy will go out later this week to thosewithout email addresses on file. This has generated many questions about theHQ refinancing. There are answers here... Please register for NSS HQ refinancing on May 19, 2016 9:00 PM EDT at: https://attendee.gotowebinar.com/register/6733168789981104898 NSS President Shrewbury will present spreadsheet analysis of refinancingoptions for the Headquarters mortgage. After registering, you will receive a confirmation email containing informationabout joining the webinar. Brought to you by GoToWebinar® Webinars Made Easy® Bill JacksonNSS 20163FLFundraising ChairDirector ___ Texascavers mailing list | http://texascavers.com Texascavers@texascavers.com | Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/texascavers@texascavers.com/ http://lists.texascavers.com/listinfo/texascavers ___ Texascavers mailing list | http://texascavers.com Texascavers@texascavers.com | Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/texascavers@texascavers.com/ http://lists.texascavers.com/listinfo/texascavers
Re: [Texascavers] Houston grotto folks
"Accidental Cathedral" is a play on the famous Basilica Cistern in Istambul. From: Gill Ediger via Texascavers To: "texascavers@texascavers.com" ; "diana.tomch...@utsouthwestern.edu" Sent: Thursday, March 10, 2016 6:09 PM Subject: Re: [Texascavers] Houston grotto folks So they tell you it has a nickname but they never tell what it is. --Ediger On Thursday, March 10, 2016 4:08 PM, "Roger Moore (cavera...@aol.com) via Texascavers" wrote: Yes, I've known about this cistern for some time, been at the entrance, and seen pictures but have not been in it yet. Roger G. Moore -Original Message- From: Diana Tomchick To: Cave Tex Cc: Roger Moore Sent: Thu, Mar 10, 2016 3:37 pm Subject: Re: [Texascavers] Houston grotto folks Whoa Roger, this is very cool. Diana ** Diana R. Tomchick Professor Departments of Biophysics and Biochemistry University of Texas Southwestern Medical Center 5323 Harry Hines Blvd. Rm. ND10.214A Dallas, TX 75390-8816 diana.tomch...@utsouthwestern.edu (214) 645-6383 (phone) (214) 645-6353 (fax) > On Mar 10, 2016, at 3:27 PM, texascavers@texascavers.com wrote: > > Just read about this - maybe something for the GHG to work on: > http://swamplot.com/now-hiring-tour-guides-for-the-abandoned-1927-cistern-buried-along-buffalo-bayou/2016-03-10/ > ___ > Texascavers mailing list | http://texascavers.com > Texascavers@texascavers.com | Archives: > http://www.mail-archive.com/texascavers@texascavers.com/ > http://lists.texascavers.com/listinfo/texascavers UT Southwestern Medical Center The future of medicine, today. ___ Texascavers mailing list | http://texascavers.com Texascavers@texascavers.com | Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/texascavers@texascavers.com/ http://lists.texascavers.com/listinfo/texascavers ___ Texascavers mailing list | http://texascavers.com Texascavers@texascavers.com | Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/texascavers@texascavers.com/ http://lists.texascavers.com/listinfo/texascavers ___ Texascavers mailing list | http://texascavers.com Texascavers@texascavers.com | Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/texascavers@texascavers.com/ http://lists.texascavers.com/listinfo/texascavers
[Texascavers] Good News for Bats
Bats successfully treated White Nose Syndrome in Missouri released back into
the wild:
http://www.batcon.org/files/May15MissouriWNSPressReleaseBCITNC.pdf
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Re: [Texascavers] Karst Information Portal
Mark, My understanding is that the KIP is an international repository, so the "member's only" access limitation you suggest would have to be extended to all nation's "National" Speleological Association in order to be fair. Perhaps the NSS Archives Committee could be encouraged to set up a similar service but only for US cave-related organization's publications. Since the scanned newsletters are already in place on KIP, transferring those to that new "local" portal would seem to be a pretty simple process, and the collection could reside behind the NSS member "paywall". RD From: Mark Minton via Texascavers To: texascavers@texascavers.com Sent: Wednesday, December 10, 2014 9:03 AM Subject: [Texascavers] Karst Information Portal George, According to the Karst Information Portal home page, grotto newsletters are soon to be withdrawn from open access. That seems like addressing the potential problem of location information with a sledgehammer. What's the point of having things on KIP if no one can get to them? Maybe they should be put into a special "members only" area where NSS members can log in with their NSS number and some other credentials to see the newsletters. I've been actively promoting editors to make their newsletters available through KIP and many have agreed. Now that all looks like it might have been for naught. :-( Mark ___ Texascavers mailing list | http://texascavers.com Texascavers@texascavers.com | Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/texascavers@texascavers.com/ http://lists.texascavers.com/listinfo/texascavers ___ Texascavers mailing list | http://texascavers.com Texascavers@texascavers.com | Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/texascavers@texascavers.com/ http://lists.texascavers.com/listinfo/texascavers
[Texascavers] Bracken: City of San Antonio Steps Up
There city will bear $10 million of $20.5 million needed to buy 1500 acres adjoining the Bracken Preserve from developers: San Antonio City Council OKs $20.5M Bat Deal | | | | | | | | | | | San Antonio City Council OKs $20.5M Bat DealThe San Antonio City Council has approved a $20.5 million deal to halt development on top of its main water source and help preserve the world's largest bat colony. | | | | View on www.nbcdfw.com | Preview by Yahoo | | | | | ___ Texascavers mailing list | http://texascavers.com Texascavers@texascavers.com | Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/texascavers@texascavers.com/ http://lists.texascavers.com/listinfo/texascavers
