Re: [Texascavers] Poison-ivy

[cvreeland]

This is true, by my experience. I wasn't at all allergic - could rub it on my 
skin to no effect until I was in my mid-30's. Was out ridge walking, and stuck 
my face down in a patch of it to look into a low lead under a ledge, and later 
noticed just the faintest of itches, but no real rash. About 6 months later, 
got into another patch while weeding the side yard at the old VG location on 
Shady Ln (river bottom, so it was everywhere) and BLAM. I am now full-blown 
don't even look at it allergic.

On Oct 22, 2013, at 5:40 PM, George Veni  wrote:

> Poison ivy never bothered me for many years, but I learned that immunity can 
> sometimes be lost by repeated exposure. So my advice to those who are 
> currently immune is to avoid it as much as possible. 
> 
> George
> 
> 
> Sent from my mobile phone
> 
> 
> 
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> 
>  Original message 
> From: Sheryl Rieck  
> Date: 2013/10/22 16:31 (GMT-07:00) 
> To: Mark Minton  
> Cc: TexasCavers  
> Subject: Re: [Texascavers] Poison-ivy 
> 
> 
> Good things to know. Since I am not allergic, I haven't been aware of the 
> other treatments.
> 
> Sheryl
> 
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> On Tue, Oct 22, 2013 at 5:27 PM, Mark Minton  wrote:
> A related product is Tecnu 
> , also commonly 
> available at pharmacies.  These products wash away the oily residue that 
> causes the rash .  They work best when used as soon as possible after 
> exposure, but can help even the next day or two.  Calamine (pink stuff), on 
> the other hand, is simply a topical anesthetic and antiseptic.  It reduces 
> itching, but doesn't really cure the problem (treats the symptoms, not the 
> disease).  (I'm also not affected by poison ivy, but my partner Yvonne is 
> extremely sensitive.)
> 
> Mark
> 
> 
> At 06:06 PM 10/22/2013, Charles Goldsmith wrote:
> I'm very allergic to it, I swear I can just look at a plant and it jump on 
> me, always have been.  The best stuff I've ever found to get rid of it is 
> http://www.walgreens.com/store/c/walgreens-poison-ivy-wash/ID=prod6113607-product
>  
> 
> Of course that's a store brand, there are other products that are named 
> brand.  I've used the walgreen's brand with very good results.  it's 
> expensive, but worth every cent.
> 
> Pink stuff didn't seem to work very well, my mom always put it on me.  There 
> was also some form of tablet she would buy from the local pharmacist, drop it 
> into a pint of water and spread the resulting concoction on me, but I swore 
> it was just water, never seemed to help and I don't know the name either.
> 
> If you can, try the above link
> 
> On Tue, Oct 22, 2013 at 4:47 PM, David  wrote:
> 
> Anybody know the best proven treatment for a poison-ivy rash from personal 
> experience?
> 
> Anybody have a good theory about how to boost immunity ?
> 
> 4 things that I feel make it worse are scratching, sunlight, heat or hot 
> water, and drying off with bath towels, all of which seem unavoidable.
> 
> Is it true that some ethnic groups are not allergic, and that white-skinned 
> people are the most allergic ?
> 
> David Locklear
> 
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[Texascavers] Icelandic Lava Tubes

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Very nice gallery: 

http://www.photographyserved.com/gallery/ICELAND-Icelandic-lava-tubes/7147305



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[Texascavers] Icelandic Lava Tubes

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http://www.photographyserved.com/gallery/ICELAND-Icelandic-lava-tubes/7147305



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[Texascavers] Icelandic Lava Tubes

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Very nice gallery: 

http://www.photographyserved.com/gallery/ICELAND-Icelandic-lava-tubes/7147305



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[Texascavers] Feb 2012 Punkin Photos

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We surveyed around some boulders in Punkin Cave, and I nabbed a few snapshots 
of the proceedings:

http://www.flickr.com/photos/cvreeland/sets/72157629408737631/

Also, Lowgun mentioned that no one would know they could buy my photography 
shirts unless I posted an actual link to the page, so here's that if anyone's 
interested:

http://art-wear.org/blog/?page_id=56

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[Texascavers] Feb 2012 Punkin Photos

[cvreeland]

We surveyed around some boulders in Punkin Cave, and I nabbed a few snapshots 
of the proceedings:

http://www.flickr.com/photos/cvreeland/sets/72157629408737631/

Also, Lowgun mentioned that no one would know they could buy my photography 
shirts unless I posted an actual link to the page, so here's that if anyone's 
interested:

http://art-wear.org/blog/?page_id=56

Chris
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[Texascavers] Feb 2012 Punkin Photos

[cvreeland]

We surveyed around some boulders in Punkin Cave, and I nabbed a few snapshots 
of the proceedings:

http://www.flickr.com/photos/cvreeland/sets/72157629408737631/

Also, Lowgun mentioned that no one would know they could buy my photography 
shirts unless I posted an actual link to the page, so here's that if anyone's 
interested:

http://art-wear.org/blog/?page_id=56

Chris
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Re: [Texascavers] A warning from the future.

[cvreeland]

Beautiful. Sublime, even. 

I hope you guys have a great weekend out there on the prairie.

On May 20, 2011, at 5:00 PM, David Locklear 2035  wrote:

> David,
> 
> It's me, David, from the future. 
> 
> It's taken the better part of a decade to do this, but I'm sending this from 
> the future to tell you... to tell me... that something awful has happened. 
> Things haven't been the same since Tzar Zuckerberg of Facebook merged 
> Wal-Mart with the Department of Defense, but aside from the general hardship 
> of life in the year 2035, sending an e-mail back in time is just not an easy 
> task. I won't go into all the details, but it took 1.21 jigalumens of LED 
> light and a 17th generation Facebook Blackberry to do it. 
> 
> You wouldn't believe the inaccurate treatment of caving in all the movies and 
> shows I watch on Facebook. I've compiled a spreadsheet of all the ones I've 
> encountered and will be sending that back in time also, once I can stockpile 
> enough AA batteries to do so. 
> 
> Getting back to the reason I'm sending this... It's me. I mean you. It's us, 
> David. I've seen the error of our ways. Ever since the exodus of 2012, Texans 
> don't cave anymore. Nobody knew about the trips anymore because everyone quit 
> the TexasCavers e-mail list. If only they'd switched to Facebook. Tzar 
> Zuckerberg's mandate of 2017 made it illegal to quit Facebook. They'd all 
> still be connected, and we'd be caving right now, or at least talking on 
> Facebook about caving trips a few of us went on in the 1970s.
> 
> The point is that I ruined it. You ruined it. We spammed Facebook with the 
> most banal off topic minutia of our life and everyone left. Once everyone was 
> off the list, they all just forgot about caving all together. I, you, 
> collected thousands of flashlights and headlamps for the day when caving came 
> back, but it never did. It had been like a game figuring out how to make my 
> mundane passing thoughts tangentially related to caving in whatever 
> irrelevant manner possible. If I'd wanted to dispatch a manifesto on bathroom 
> tissue, I would have, because bowel movements do not stop for caving, and one 
> time, while caving, I thought I might need to make a burrito bag, but alas, I 
> did not. The threat was real, though, this I assure you.
> 
> What the e-mail list should have been used for all along is simply 
> dispatching information about upcoming caving trips, sharing trip reports 
> from recent caving trips, and hosting the occasional meaty conversation about 
> a cave related topic such as cave geology, biology, safety, even a Werner 
> Herzog film about a cave. 
> 
> It's time to stop using this e-mail list as a vanity fueled megaphone for our 
> ramblings. Maybe our closest friends care about all we have to say, but those 
> people out there on the e-mail list aren't all our closest friends. Many of 
> them have never even met us. I see now that sending e-mails like that out 
> just damages the community because we're running people off who might 
> otherwise participate in this list if it weren't congested with our terrible 
> posts. If we stop now, in the year 2011, which the great exodus looming, 
> maybe caving can be saved. I really want to have a use for all these 
> flashlights and headlamps.
> 
> Although, on the topic of bathroom tissue, if you ever need any, I highly 
> recommend Facebook Brand Bum Wipes. They're strong, and absorbent. I haven't 
> had any of them tear on me yet. They could be softer, but I'll take utility 
> over comfort any day. I've pushed the LIKE button on their Facebook page, and 
> I recommend that all of you do too. 
> 
> David Locklear
> CEO of Natufest International,
> A subsidiary of The People's Republic of Facebook
> 
> P.S. You all should really go on Facebook and download the new Wu-Tang single 
> when it comes out in 2020. I listened to it the other day while looking at my 
> old caving photos on Facebook (which makes it on topic) and it's really 
> excellent. I never thought I'd like Classical Music, but the gunshot sound 
> effects on this one really are sublime. Also, in the early nineties they were 
> considered 'undgeround' and caving is an underground activity. So it's doubly 
> on topic.
> 
> P.P.S. I'm going to go Facebook my Facebook Facebook. Facebook.

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Re: [Texascavers] A warning from the future.

[cvreeland]

Beautiful. Sublime, even. 

I hope you guys have a great weekend out there on the prairie.

On May 20, 2011, at 5:00 PM, David Locklear 2035  wrote:

> David,
> 
> It's me, David, from the future. 
> 
> It's taken the better part of a decade to do this, but I'm sending this from 
> the future to tell you... to tell me... that something awful has happened. 
> Things haven't been the same since Tzar Zuckerberg of Facebook merged 
> Wal-Mart with the Department of Defense, but aside from the general hardship 
> of life in the year 2035, sending an e-mail back in time is just not an easy 
> task. I won't go into all the details, but it took 1.21 jigalumens of LED 
> light and a 17th generation Facebook Blackberry to do it. 
> 
> You wouldn't believe the inaccurate treatment of caving in all the movies and 
> shows I watch on Facebook. I've compiled a spreadsheet of all the ones I've 
> encountered and will be sending that back in time also, once I can stockpile 
> enough AA batteries to do so. 
> 
> Getting back to the reason I'm sending this... It's me. I mean you. It's us, 
> David. I've seen the error of our ways. Ever since the exodus of 2012, Texans 
> don't cave anymore. Nobody knew about the trips anymore because everyone quit 
> the TexasCavers e-mail list. If only they'd switched to Facebook. Tzar 
> Zuckerberg's mandate of 2017 made it illegal to quit Facebook. They'd all 
> still be connected, and we'd be caving right now, or at least talking on 
> Facebook about caving trips a few of us went on in the 1970s.
> 
> The point is that I ruined it. You ruined it. We spammed Facebook with the 
> most banal off topic minutia of our life and everyone left. Once everyone was 
> off the list, they all just forgot about caving all together. I, you, 
> collected thousands of flashlights and headlamps for the day when caving came 
> back, but it never did. It had been like a game figuring out how to make my 
> mundane passing thoughts tangentially related to caving in whatever 
> irrelevant manner possible. If I'd wanted to dispatch a manifesto on bathroom 
> tissue, I would have, because bowel movements do not stop for caving, and one 
> time, while caving, I thought I might need to make a burrito bag, but alas, I 
> did not. The threat was real, though, this I assure you.
> 
> What the e-mail list should have been used for all along is simply 
> dispatching information about upcoming caving trips, sharing trip reports 
> from recent caving trips, and hosting the occasional meaty conversation about 
> a cave related topic such as cave geology, biology, safety, even a Werner 
> Herzog film about a cave. 
> 
> It's time to stop using this e-mail list as a vanity fueled megaphone for our 
> ramblings. Maybe our closest friends care about all we have to say, but those 
> people out there on the e-mail list aren't all our closest friends. Many of 
> them have never even met us. I see now that sending e-mails like that out 
> just damages the community because we're running people off who might 
> otherwise participate in this list if it weren't congested with our terrible 
> posts. If we stop now, in the year 2011, which the great exodus looming, 
> maybe caving can be saved. I really want to have a use for all these 
> flashlights and headlamps.
> 
> Although, on the topic of bathroom tissue, if you ever need any, I highly 
> recommend Facebook Brand Bum Wipes. They're strong, and absorbent. I haven't 
> had any of them tear on me yet. They could be softer, but I'll take utility 
> over comfort any day. I've pushed the LIKE button on their Facebook page, and 
> I recommend that all of you do too. 
> 
> David Locklear
> CEO of Natufest International,
> A subsidiary of The People's Republic of Facebook
> 
> P.S. You all should really go on Facebook and download the new Wu-Tang single 
> when it comes out in 2020. I listened to it the other day while looking at my 
> old caving photos on Facebook (which makes it on topic) and it's really 
> excellent. I never thought I'd like Classical Music, but the gunshot sound 
> effects on this one really are sublime. Also, in the early nineties they were 
> considered 'undgeround' and caving is an underground activity. So it's doubly 
> on topic.
> 
> P.P.S. I'm going to go Facebook my Facebook Facebook. Facebook.

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Re: [Texascavers] A warning from the future.

[cvreeland]

Beautiful. Sublime, even. 

I hope you guys have a great weekend out there on the prairie.

On May 20, 2011, at 5:00 PM, David Locklear 2035  wrote:

> David,
> 
> It's me, David, from the future. 
> 
> It's taken the better part of a decade to do this, but I'm sending this from 
> the future to tell you... to tell me... that something awful has happened. 
> Things haven't been the same since Tzar Zuckerberg of Facebook merged 
> Wal-Mart with the Department of Defense, but aside from the general hardship 
> of life in the year 2035, sending an e-mail back in time is just not an easy 
> task. I won't go into all the details, but it took 1.21 jigalumens of LED 
> light and a 17th generation Facebook Blackberry to do it. 
> 
> You wouldn't believe the inaccurate treatment of caving in all the movies and 
> shows I watch on Facebook. I've compiled a spreadsheet of all the ones I've 
> encountered and will be sending that back in time also, once I can stockpile 
> enough AA batteries to do so. 
> 
> Getting back to the reason I'm sending this... It's me. I mean you. It's us, 
> David. I've seen the error of our ways. Ever since the exodus of 2012, Texans 
> don't cave anymore. Nobody knew about the trips anymore because everyone quit 
> the TexasCavers e-mail list. If only they'd switched to Facebook. Tzar 
> Zuckerberg's mandate of 2017 made it illegal to quit Facebook. They'd all 
> still be connected, and we'd be caving right now, or at least talking on 
> Facebook about caving trips a few of us went on in the 1970s.
> 
> The point is that I ruined it. You ruined it. We spammed Facebook with the 
> most banal off topic minutia of our life and everyone left. Once everyone was 
> off the list, they all just forgot about caving all together. I, you, 
> collected thousands of flashlights and headlamps for the day when caving came 
> back, but it never did. It had been like a game figuring out how to make my 
> mundane passing thoughts tangentially related to caving in whatever 
> irrelevant manner possible. If I'd wanted to dispatch a manifesto on bathroom 
> tissue, I would have, because bowel movements do not stop for caving, and one 
> time, while caving, I thought I might need to make a burrito bag, but alas, I 
> did not. The threat was real, though, this I assure you.
> 
> What the e-mail list should have been used for all along is simply 
> dispatching information about upcoming caving trips, sharing trip reports 
> from recent caving trips, and hosting the occasional meaty conversation about 
> a cave related topic such as cave geology, biology, safety, even a Werner 
> Herzog film about a cave. 
> 
> It's time to stop using this e-mail list as a vanity fueled megaphone for our 
> ramblings. Maybe our closest friends care about all we have to say, but those 
> people out there on the e-mail list aren't all our closest friends. Many of 
> them have never even met us. I see now that sending e-mails like that out 
> just damages the community because we're running people off who might 
> otherwise participate in this list if it weren't congested with our terrible 
> posts. If we stop now, in the year 2011, which the great exodus looming, 
> maybe caving can be saved. I really want to have a use for all these 
> flashlights and headlamps.
> 
> Although, on the topic of bathroom tissue, if you ever need any, I highly 
> recommend Facebook Brand Bum Wipes. They're strong, and absorbent. I haven't 
> had any of them tear on me yet. They could be softer, but I'll take utility 
> over comfort any day. I've pushed the LIKE button on their Facebook page, and 
> I recommend that all of you do too. 
> 
> David Locklear
> CEO of Natufest International,
> A subsidiary of The People's Republic of Facebook
> 
> P.S. You all should really go on Facebook and download the new Wu-Tang single 
> when it comes out in 2020. I listened to it the other day while looking at my 
> old caving photos on Facebook (which makes it on topic) and it's really 
> excellent. I never thought I'd like Classical Music, but the gunshot sound 
> effects on this one really are sublime. Also, in the early nineties they were 
> considered 'undgeround' and caving is an underground activity. So it's doubly 
> on topic.
> 
> P.P.S. I'm going to go Facebook my Facebook Facebook. Facebook.

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