Re: [Texascavers] Caving vehicles

2019-06-08 Thread Jocelyn Hooper 
Pete’ old red truck has gone to Houston with a fellow Sprouse told him
about who rebuilds old power wagons.  We are still stuck with Stone’s truck
that slid upside down along a hwy in Mexico all those years ago.  He lost
the title, and neither Pete nor I have been able to get him to get
another.  Would love someone to haul it off! 🥴

On Sat, Jun 8, 2019 at 11:40 AM PRESTON FORSYTHE 
wrote:

> Considering who owned that vehicle and what she accomplished using, I
> assume, that vehicle, the Chevy Tomato should go in a Caver Vehicle Museum
> in NM, TX or Huntsville. I mean in NM the humidity is so low the museum
> would not even have to be under roof.
>
> However, Nico is correct I am sure about the maintenance history of such
> vehicle. Having rebuilt an old caving vehicle decades ago, I have no desire
> to do another one. For one, the safety features on newer vehicles are worth
> it, and reliability counts as well. Cost? Fairly new vehicles to me are
> worth it because I no longer have unlimited time or necessarily want to
> make unlimited time, yet, to get there, with multiple tire problems,
> overheating, wheels flying off, drive shafts slinging off down the
> interstate or country dirt caving roads,  carb. clogging up from dirty fuel
> tanks, and more. Does anyone really get off road these days. Are there
> still caves to be found?
>
> I would be happy to see the Old School Bus in a museum. I would pay for
> having Strickland's old '68 Red Dodge Power Wagon pulled out of the weeds
> and hauled to Huntsville. There is space behind the hdqtrs in Huntsville
> for several vehicles. Terry R. do you still have an old vehicle or two to
> donate to the cause? We could park them in Huntsville, with Geary's
> permission,  and put a couple of drip pans underneath, maybe a half dozen
> drip pans. Are any of Frank's old Toyotas still stuck back in the weeds? I
> know Blake has one two.
>
> By the way George can do whatever he wants in my book. That TX convention
> was tops and those things are not easy to put on. Volunteer and help at TN.
>
> Nico, we will never get tired of your Giant Caves of Northern Mexico.
>
>
> Preston Forsythe, Browder, KY
>
> On Saturday, June 8, 2019, 11:04:43 AM CDT, Nico Escamilla <
> pitboun...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
> Vw saveiro as well as the Chevrolet tornado are gutless, Ive driven both,
> they're good for running errands and have decent fuel economy but thats it,
> neither could ever be considered a caving vehicle unless your idea of
> caving involves paved roads to the entrance like Palmito or Grutas de
> Garcia. They're nothing but a small carr disguised as a pickup, in the case
> of the Chevy its the Aveo platform with a pickup bed and the VW I believe
> its the Polo/vento turned into a pick'em up truck or I could be wrong and
> it could be the Gol platform... in any case, they both have tiny engines
> aimed at fuel economy and thats it, the Chevy is geared lower which helps
> with you put 500 kilos worth cattle feed or such in the bed, the tradeoff
> is higher rpms at highway speeds.. Ground clearance is nothing to write
> home about either.. I could go on and on, but that'd be as pointless as
> most of Locklear's posts on this listserve since neither of them vehicles
> is offered in the states cause they're little death boxes without airbags
> or any such safety features.
>
> Nico
>
>
> Nico
>
>
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> El vie., 7 de jun. de 2019 7:37 PM, David 
> escribió:
>
> I saw the Volkwagen in the link below on the highway in Houston today, or
> something very similar to it.
>
>
>
> http://an-review.weebly.com/uploads/7/8/3/9/78391004/new-saveiro-2018-2_orig.jpg
>
> I think it had Mexican plates.
>
> Somebody should get one for Walt.
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Re: [Texascavers] Caving vehicles

2019-06-08 Thread PRESTON FORSYTHE 
 Considering who owned that vehicle and what she accomplished using, I assume, 
that vehicle, the Chevy Tomato should go in a Caver Vehicle Museum in NM, TX or 
Huntsville. I mean in NM the humidity is so low the museum would not even have 
to be under roof.
However, Nico is correct I am sure about the maintenance history of such 
vehicle. Having rebuilt an old caving vehicle decades ago, I have no desire to 
do another one. For one, the safety features on newer vehicles are worth it, 
and reliability counts as well. Cost? Fairly new vehicles to me are worth it 
because I no longer have unlimited time or necessarily want to make unlimited 
time, yet, to get there, with multiple tire problems, overheating, wheels 
flying off, drive shafts slinging off down the interstate or country dirt 
caving roads,  carb. clogging up from dirty fuel tanks, and more. Does anyone 
really get off road these days. Are there still caves to be found?
I would be happy to see the Old School Bus in a museum. I would pay for having 
Strickland's old '68 Red Dodge Power Wagon pulled out of the weeds and hauled 
to Huntsville. There is space behind the hdqtrs in Huntsville for several 
vehicles. Terry R. do you still have an old vehicle or two to donate to the 
cause? We could park them in Huntsville, with Geary's permission,  and put a 
couple of drip pans underneath, maybe a half dozen drip pans. Are any of 
Frank's old Toyotas still stuck back in the weeds? I know Blake has one two.
By the way George can do whatever he wants in my book. That TX convention was 
tops and those things are not easy to put on. Volunteer and help at TN.
Nico, we will never get tired of your Giant Caves of Northern Mexico.

Preston Forsythe, Browder, KY

On Saturday, June 8, 2019, 11:04:43 AM CDT, Nico Escamilla 
 wrote:  
 
 Vw saveiro as well as the Chevrolet tornado are gutless, Ive driven both, 
they're good for running errands and have decent fuel economy but thats it, 
neither could ever be considered a caving vehicle unless your idea of caving 
involves paved roads to the entrance like Palmito or Grutas de Garcia. They're 
nothing but a small carr disguised as a pickup, in the case of the Chevy its 
the Aveo platform with a pickup bed and the VW I believe its the Polo/vento 
turned into a pick'em up truck or I could be wrong and it could be the Gol 
platform... in any case, they both have tiny engines aimed at fuel economy and 
thats it, the Chevy is geared lower which helps with you put 500 kilos worth 
cattle feed or such in the bed, the tradeoff is higher rpms at highway speeds.. 
Ground clearance is nothing to write home about either.. I could go on and on, 
but that'd be as pointless as most of Locklear's posts on this listserve since 
neither of them vehicles is offered in the states cause they're little death 
boxes without airbags or any such safety features.
Nico

Nico
 
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El vie., 7 de jun. de 2019 7:37 PM, David  escribió:

I saw the Volkwagen in the link below on the highway in Houston today, or 
something very similar to it.

http://an-review.weebly.com/uploads/7/8/3/9/78391004/new-saveiro-2018-2_orig.jpg

I think it had Mexican plates.
Somebody should get one for Walt.
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Re: [Texascavers] Caving vehicles

2019-06-08 Thread Nico Escamilla 
Vw saveiro as well as the Chevrolet tornado are gutless, Ive driven both,
they're good for running errands and have decent fuel economy but thats it,
neither could ever be considered a caving vehicle unless your idea of
caving involves paved roads to the entrance like Palmito or Grutas de
Garcia. They're nothing but a small carr disguised as a pickup, in the case
of the Chevy its the Aveo platform with a pickup bed and the VW I believe
its the Polo/vento turned into a pick'em up truck or I could be wrong and
it could be the Gol platform... in any case, they both have tiny engines
aimed at fuel economy and thats it, the Chevy is geared lower which helps
with you put 500 kilos worth cattle feed or such in the bed, the tradeoff
is higher rpms at highway speeds.. Ground clearance is nothing to write
home about either.. I could go on and on, but that'd be as pointless as
most of Locklear's posts on this listserve since neither of them vehicles
is offered in the states cause they're little death boxes without airbags
or any such safety features.

Nico


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El vie., 7 de jun. de 2019 7:37 PM, David  escribió:

> I saw the Volkwagen in the link below on the highway in Houston today, or
> something very similar to it.
>
>
>
> http://an-review.weebly.com/uploads/7/8/3/9/78391004/new-saveiro-2018-2_orig.jpg
>
> I think it had Mexican plates.
>
> Somebody should get one for Walt.
>
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[Texascavers] Caving vehicles

2019-06-07 Thread David 
I saw the Volkwagen in the link below on the highway in Houston today, or
something very similar to it.


http://an-review.weebly.com/uploads/7/8/3/9/78391004/new-saveiro-2018-2_orig.jpg

I think it had Mexican plates.

Somebody should get one for Walt.
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[Texascavers] caving vehicles

2010-12-07 Thread David 
This should be old news to most of you.

Back in the mid-80's when I was hoping to acquire my first vehicle that was
suitable for caving trips to the Sierra Madres, it was impossible to find an
inexpensive SUV with 4x4, especially one with 4 doors.

Today's young cavers don't realize how easy they have it.

All they have to do is get on-line with their web-gadgets and do a few minutes
of shopping.

Here is an example:

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Isuzu-Trooper-TROOPER-NO-RESERVE-1996-ISUZU-TROOPER-SE-TEXAS-/180595521734?pt=US_Cars_Trucks&hash=item2a0c54f8c6#ht_520wt_1161

Someone near Dallas willing to repair it, might be interested in that.


Also, for the rich cavers, there are deals that were unheard of back in the day.

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/International-Harvester-Scout-Travelall-MINT-68-International-Harvester-Scout-Travelall-IH-/310277406847?pt=US_Cars_Trucks&hash=item483df9807f#ht_71761wt_1282

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/1976-blazer-chalet-4x4-camper-/120656902913?pt=US_Cars_Trucks&hash=item1c17b63b01#ht_500wt_810

I saw dozens of other deals if anyone wants the links. Just do a
search at motors.ebay and put 4x4 in the keyword
search or any other feature you are looking for.

David Locklear

P.S.   I have a 92 4x4 Toyota truck going cheap, but needs major work.

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