Re: Re: [Texascavers] Jim White statue to be unveiled at NCKRI :

2009-11-02 Thread tbsamsel


What about abstract art that no one understands?
 
T.
 
Terry Allen's "Truckload of Art":
Recitation:Once upon a time...Sometime ago back on the east coastIn New York City, to be exact...A bunch of artists and painters andsculptors and musicians andpoets and writers and dancersand architectsStarted feeling real superiorto their ego-counter-partsOut on the West Coast...so,They all got together and decidedThey would show those snotty surfer upstartsA thing or two about the Big AppleAnd...they hired themselves a truckIt was a big, spanking new white-shinyChrome-plated cab-overPeterbilt...With mudflaps, stereo, tv, AM & FM radio,Leather seats and a naugahide sleeper...All freshWith new American Flag decals and "ART ARK"Printed on the side of the doorWith solid 24 karat gold leaf type...And they filled up this truckWith the most significant pilesAnd influential heaps of Art WorkTo ever be assembled in Modern Times,And it sent it West...to chideCajole, humble and humiliate...the Golden Bear.And this is the true story of that truck...A Truckload of ArtFrom New York CityCame rollin down the roadYeah the driver was singingAnd the sunset was prettyBut the truck turned overAnd she rolled off the roadYeah a Truckload of Artis burning near the highwayPrecious objects are scatteredAll over the groundAnd it's a terrible sightIf a person were to see itBut there weren't nobody around(Yodel)Yeah the driver went sailingHigh in the skyLanding in the gold lap of the LordWho smiled and then said"Son, you're better off deadThan haulin a truckloadfull of hot avant-garde(chorus)Yes...an important artworkWas thrown burning to the groundTragically...landing in the weedsAnd the smoke could be seenAhhh for miles all aroundYeah but nobody...knows what it meansYes...a Truckload of ArtIs burning near the highwayAnd it's a tough job for the highway patrolAhhh they'll soon see the smokeAn come runnin to pokeThen dig a deep ditchAnd throw the arts in a hole(Yodel)Yeah a Truckload of ArtIs burning near the highwayAnd it's raging far-out of controlAnd what the critics have cheeredIs now shattered and queeredAnd their noble reviewsHave been stewed on the road(chorus)Nov 1, 2009 07:46:54 AM, jpbrook...@sbcglobal.net wrote:

I think the TCMA should ammend it's by laws to prohibit statues on it's preservesSent from my iPhone
On Oct 31, 2009, at 8:33 PM, jerryat...@aol.com wrote:




I'd nominate Bob Hudson, pioneer Texas caver from the early 1950s.  He was one of the first serious cavers in Texas and was a founder of the UTG.  He explored hundreds of caves, some of which have not been visited since. He also established the first cave files for the state and wrote some of the first articles on Texas caves that appeared in the NSS News.
 
Jerry.
 
In a message dated 10/31/2009 7:37:26 A.M. Central Standard Time, gi...@att.net writes:
Well, now, lookity here, Bill, Carol is getting together a bronze foundry. I suspect we could make statues of damned near any caver we wanted--and maybe even some we didn't.  

The question is: Where would we set them up? In some cave(s)? NSS HQ? On some Cave Preserve--like Stonehenge? 
--Ediger 

 

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Re: [Texascavers] Jim White statue to be unveiled at NCKRI :

2009-11-01 Thread speleosteele
Actually, I disagree. I think the TCMA should go the other way and seek to 
recruit one of those yard art sculptors, those guys who make slip molds and 
those plaster statues, and have a garden of them at Punkin and Deep. Just think 
of how much fun it would be to have statues of the 200 Texas cavers who have 
contributed the most. We could have a path and little weatherproof signs about 
their contribution. I don't think there's anything like it, except maybe in 
China. I know I always rubber neck when I drive by one of those yard art lots 
and do a double take on the gorillas, hippos, etc., but it would be much more 
interesting if it was statues of Bob Hudson, Carl Kunath, Bill Russell, Wayne 
Russell, Pete Lindsley, John Brooks, Gary Franklin, and 193 others.

Bill

 John Brooks  wrote: 
> I think the TCMA should ammend it's by laws to prohibit statues on it's 
> preserves
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
> On Oct 31, 2009, at 8:33 PM, jerryat...@aol.com wrote:
> 
> I'd nominate Bob Hudson, pioneer Texas caver from the early 1950s.  He was 
> one of the first serious cavers in Texas and was a founder of the UTG.  He 
> explored hundreds of caves, some of which have not been visited since. He 
> also established the first cave files for the state and wrote some of the 
> first articles on Texas caves that appeared in the NSS News.
>  
> Jerry.
>  
> In a message dated 10/31/2009 7:37:26 A.M. Central Standard Time, 
> gi...@att.net writes:
> Well, now, lookity here, Bill, Carol is getting together a bronze foundry. I 
> suspect we could make statues of damned near any caver we wanted--and maybe 
> even some we didn't. 
> 
> The question is: Where would we set them up? In some cave(s)? NSS HQ? On some 
> Cave Preserve--like Stonehenge? 
> --Ediger 
>  


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Re: [Texascavers] Jim White statue to be unveiled at NCKRI :

2009-11-01 Thread John Brooks
I think the TCMA should ammend it's by laws to prohibit statues on it's 
preserves

Sent from my iPhone

On Oct 31, 2009, at 8:33 PM, jerryat...@aol.com wrote:

I'd nominate Bob Hudson, pioneer Texas caver from the early 1950s.  He was one 
of the first serious cavers in Texas and was a founder of the UTG.  He explored 
hundreds of caves, some of which have not been visited since. He also 
established the first cave files for the state and wrote some of the first 
articles on Texas caves that appeared in the NSS News.
 
Jerry.
 
In a message dated 10/31/2009 7:37:26 A.M. Central Standard Time, gi...@att.net 
writes:
Well, now, lookity here, Bill, Carol is getting together a bronze foundry. I 
suspect we could make statues of damned near any caver we wanted--and maybe 
even some we didn't. 

The question is: Where would we set them up? In some cave(s)? NSS HQ? On some 
Cave Preserve--like Stonehenge? 
--Ediger 
 


Re: [Texascavers] Jim White statue to be unveiled at NCKRI :

2009-10-31 Thread JerryAtkin
 
I'd nominate Bob Hudson, pioneer Texas caver from the early 1950s.  He  was 
one of the first serious cavers in Texas and was a founder of the UTG.   He 
explored hundreds of caves, some of which have not been visited since. He  
also established the first cave files for the state and wrote some of the 
first  articles on Texas caves that appeared in the NSS News.
 
Jerry.
 
In a message dated 10/31/2009 7:37:26 A.M. Central Standard Time,  
gi...@att.net writes:

Well,  now, lookity here, Bill, Carol is getting together a bronze foundry. 
I suspect  we could make statues of damned near any caver we wanted--and 
maybe even some  we didn't.   


The question is: Where would we set them up? In some cave(s)? NSS HQ? On  
some Cave Preserve--like Stonehenge? 
--Ediger 








Re: [Texascavers] Jim White statue to be unveiled at NCKRI :

2009-10-31 Thread Gill Edigar
Well, now, lookity here, Bill, Carol is getting together a bronze foundry. I
suspect we could make statues of damned near any caver we wanted--and maybe
even some we didn't.

The question is: Where would we set them up? In some cave(s)? NSS HQ? On
some Cave Preserve--like Stonehenge?
--Ediger

On Sat, Oct 31, 2009 at 7:51 AM,  wrote:

> I wonder if there are any other statues of cavers in the world? Are there
> of E.A. Martel or Norbert Casteret in France? There ought to be one of
> Stephen Bishop at Mammoth Cave, Kentucky. Maybe with Roger Brucker's new
> book about Bishop such a thing could happen. I would think the
> African-American community would get behind that.
>
>


Re: [Texascavers] Jim White statue to be unveiled at NCKRI :

2009-10-31 Thread speleosteele
I wonder if there are any other statues of cavers in the world? Are there of 
E.A. Martel or Norbert Casteret in France? There ought to be one of Stephen 
Bishop at Mammoth Cave, Kentucky. Maybe with Roger Brucker's new book about 
Bishop such a thing could happen. I would think the African-American community 
would get behind that.

Thanks, Jerry

 jerryat...@aol.com wrote: 
>  
> Caverns explorer's statue  awaits unveiling
> By Reid Wright
> Current-Argus Staff  Writer
> Posted: 10/29/2009 09:04:16 PM  MDT
>  
> 
> CARLSBAD — Jim White has returned to Carlsbad.  
> Tucked under blue plastic tarp in a dark corner of a county garage, a 
> stately  13-foot-tall bronze statue of the Carlsbad Caverns explorer awaits 
> unveiling.  
> Sculpted by Reynaldo "Sonny" Rivera, the more than $100,000 statue was a  
> project of a Carlsbad arts committee.  
> Rocky Hayes, a former Current-Argus publisher and committee member, said  
> White's exploration and promotion of Carlsbad Caverns was an example of the  
> western spirit and the pioneering spirit of the town.  
> "It represents Carlsbad as a western town, as a town settled by people with 
>  incredible character," he said, citing the founding of Carlsbad and the  
> construction of the first flume across the Pecos River. "To actually 
> re-direct  the river to get water over to what little soil there was, to turn 
> it 
> into this  Garden of Eden, this utopia it means overcoming some tremendous 
> challenges."  
> Jim White is reported to have been a young cowboy who followed a cloud of  
> bats to the entrance of Carlsbad Caverns, which he eventually descended into 
> on  a ladder made of sticks and fencing wire to explore.  
> "Jim was basically responsible for much of the exploration of Carlsbad  
> Caverns and bringing it to the attention of the public and the National Park  
> Service," said George Veni, executive director of the National Cave and Karst 
>  Institute.  
> Veni said it was his first trip into the caverns that inspired him to 
> pursue  a career in the research of caves.  
> He said the sculptor of the statue was inspired by the story of White. 
>  
> "He explored the caverns with very limited technology," Veni said. "I think 
>  that's a credit to his skill and his courage."  
> Hayes said the story of Jim White may be embellished or hypocritical, but 
> he  still finds it compelling.  
> "That's just a hell of a story," he said. "All I know is that level of  
> curiosity, of ruggedness, of bravery to make a real discovery. I find that  
> captivating. I think it is worth remembering and is worth memorializing."  
> The statue is expected to be unveiled in the coming months, Veni said. It  
> will be placed in front of the new Cave and Karst institute which is still 
> under  construction, expected to be opened early next year.  
> Funding for the statue included $100,000 in state funds made possible by  
> legislation passed by then-State Representative Bill Gray and Rep. John 
> Heaton  as well as Senators Vernon Asbill and Carroll Leavell. Other funds 
> included a  trust fund created by money from Gannett Newspapers, and 
> donations by 
> author  Bill Coat, Hayes said.  
> Committee members included Jim Harrison, Bob Forrest, John Heaton, Jed  
> Howard, Larry Henderson, and Jerry Matson. 
> _http://www.currentargus.com/ci_13673144_ 
> (http://www.currentargus.com/ci_13673144)  
> 


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[Texascavers] Jim White statue to be unveiled at NCKRI :

2009-10-30 Thread JerryAtkin
 
Caverns explorer's statue  awaits unveiling
By Reid Wright
Current-Argus Staff  Writer
Posted: 10/29/2009 09:04:16 PM  MDT
 

CARLSBAD — Jim White has returned to Carlsbad.  
Tucked under blue plastic tarp in a dark corner of a county garage, a 
stately  13-foot-tall bronze statue of the Carlsbad Caverns explorer awaits 
unveiling.  
Sculpted by Reynaldo "Sonny" Rivera, the more than $100,000 statue was a  
project of a Carlsbad arts committee.  
Rocky Hayes, a former Current-Argus publisher and committee member, said  
White's exploration and promotion of Carlsbad Caverns was an example of the  
western spirit and the pioneering spirit of the town.  
"It represents Carlsbad as a western town, as a town settled by people with 
 incredible character," he said, citing the founding of Carlsbad and the  
construction of the first flume across the Pecos River. "To actually 
re-direct  the river to get water over to what little soil there was, to turn 
it 
into this  Garden of Eden, this utopia it means overcoming some tremendous 
challenges."  
Jim White is reported to have been a young cowboy who followed a cloud of  
bats to the entrance of Carlsbad Caverns, which he eventually descended into 
on  a ladder made of sticks and fencing wire to explore.  
"Jim was basically responsible for much of the exploration of Carlsbad  
Caverns and bringing it to the attention of the public and the National Park  
Service," said George Veni, executive director of the National Cave and Karst 
 Institute.  
Veni said it was his first trip into the caverns that inspired him to 
pursue  a career in the research of caves.  
He said the sculptor of the statue was inspired by the story of White. 
 
"He explored the caverns with very limited technology," Veni said. "I think 
 that's a credit to his skill and his courage."  
Hayes said the story of Jim White may be embellished or hypocritical, but 
he  still finds it compelling.  
"That's just a hell of a story," he said. "All I know is that level of  
curiosity, of ruggedness, of bravery to make a real discovery. I find that  
captivating. I think it is worth remembering and is worth memorializing."  
The statue is expected to be unveiled in the coming months, Veni said. It  
will be placed in front of the new Cave and Karst institute which is still 
under  construction, expected to be opened early next year.  
Funding for the statue included $100,000 in state funds made possible by  
legislation passed by then-State Representative Bill Gray and Rep. John 
Heaton  as well as Senators Vernon Asbill and Carroll Leavell. Other funds 
included a  trust fund created by money from Gannett Newspapers, and donations 
by 
author  Bill Coat, Hayes said.  
Committee members included Jim Harrison, Bob Forrest, John Heaton, Jed  
Howard, Larry Henderson, and Jerry Matson. 
_http://www.currentargus.com/ci_13673144_ 
(http://www.currentargus.com/ci_13673144)