RE: [Texascavers] RE: Can plumbers be trusted with cell phones?
How big is your screen? From the ones I've seen, I can barely read phone numbers on mine, much less a book. L From: wo...@justfamily.org Date: Wed, 23 Dec 2009 16:49:57 -0600 To: donarb...@mac.com CC: texascavers@texascavers.com Subject: Re: [Texascavers] RE: Can plumbers be trusted with cell phones? Agreed Don, modern smart phones are not just phones anymore, they are amongst the smallest netbooks made. My Iphone is much faster than my first computer and has Gigs of storage, my first used tape drives. In a pinch, I can vpn into my office with my iphone, remote a windows or unix workstation, ssh into a terminal on a router, switch, firewall or a unix server. I carry hundreds of books around with me for entertainment, have a few movies and quite a few songs. I love the ability that my library goes with me, if I'm sitting in a waiting room at a garage, doctors office, or just have 10 mins to kill while waiting on something/someone, I have my books with me. Too many times in the past I was caught somewhere and didn't have my current book with me. I rarely talk on my phone, its used more as a computer :) Charles On Mon, Dec 21, 2009 at 9:49 AM, Don Arburn donarb...@mac.com wrote: Editor of the Caver. You probably are between the keyboard and chair more than most of us. Luddite, ain't that rich! I'm not so much tethered to my iPhone (I turn off the phone regularly) as having a toolkit in my pocket. Calculator, weather, map, translator, radio, remote control, dictionary, camera, sky chart, movie listing, chemical light stick, clock, currency exchange, tip calculator, bird identification book, text, email, Google, and a dozen other ways to pass the time while waiting for my tractor... In one small package. Don's iPhone. On Dec 21, 2009, at 7:21 AM, mark.al...@l-3com.com wrote: I like your style, Louise! I keep my candy bar cell phone in the truck and, usually, turned off. I hate to sound like a Luddite, but, I can't understand how so many people's lives revolve around or are tethered to their cell phones, especially, the iPhones. (Addicted?) My kids are the biggest culprits, but, as long as they're paying their own bills, I don't care. Now, don't get me started on the folks I see every day yacking/texting on their phones on LBJ! Unplugged and loving it! Mark From: Louise Power [mailto:power_lou...@hotmail.com] Sent: Fri 12/18/2009 4:07 PM To: Texas Cavers Subject: RE: [Texascavers] RE: Can plumbers be trusted with cell phones? Mine stays turned off and tucked away in my purse (just in case I need it on the road). I vowed when I got rid of my house phone about ten years ago and got a cell phone, that it would be for my convenience only. If people can find my number, they can call me and leave a message (I generally check it about once a week), but there are only about five people who have the number (for emergencies). The tether has been cut and I am not constantly on call. Louise - Visit our website: http://texascavers.com To unsubscribe, e-mail: texascavers-unsubscr...@texascavers.com For additional commands, e-mail: texascavers-h...@texascavers.com
Re: [Texascavers] RE: Can plumbers be trusted with cell phones?
Well, it's an iphone, but the ebook app I use lets me set the font size to whatever I want. Makes the books have many more pages when you go with a larger font, but that just makes you flip pages more often. It works really well for me. Charles On Thu, Dec 24, 2009 at 11:27 AM, Louise Power power_lou...@hotmail.com wrote: How big is your screen? From the ones I've seen, I can barely read phone numbers on mine, much less a book. L From: wo...@justfamily.org Date: Wed, 23 Dec 2009 16:49:57 -0600 To: donarb...@mac.com CC: texascavers@texascavers.com Subject: Re: [Texascavers] RE: Can plumbers be trusted with cell phones? Agreed Don, modern smart phones are not just phones anymore, they are amongst the smallest netbooks made. My Iphone is much faster than my first computer and has Gigs of storage, my first used tape drives. In a pinch, I can vpn into my office with my iphone, remote a windows or unix workstation, ssh into a terminal on a router, switch, firewall or a unix server. I carry hundreds of books around with me for entertainment, have a few movies and quite a few songs. I love the ability that my library goes with me, if I'm sitting in a waiting room at a garage, doctors office, or just have 10 mins to kill while waiting on something/someone, I have my books with me. Too many times in the past I was caught somewhere and didn't have my current book with me. I rarely talk on my phone, its used more as a computer :) Charles On Mon, Dec 21, 2009 at 9:49 AM, Don Arburn donarb...@mac.com wrote: Editor of the Caver. You probably are between the keyboard and chair more than most of us. Luddite, ain't that rich! I'm not so much tethered to my iPhone (I turn off the phone regularly) as having a toolkit in my pocket. Calculator, weather, map, translator, radio, remote control, dictionary, camera, sky chart, movie listing, chemical light stick, clock, currency exchange, tip calculator, bird identification book, text, email, Google, and a dozen other ways to pass the time while waiting for my tractor... In one small package. Don's iPhone. On Dec 21, 2009, at 7:21 AM, mark.al...@l-3com.com wrote: I like your style, Louise! I keep my candy bar cell phone in the truck and, usually, turned off. I hate to sound like a Luddite, but, I can't understand how so many people's lives revolve around or are tethered to their cell phones, especially, the iPhones. (Addicted?) My kids are the biggest culprits, but, as long as they're paying their own bills, I don't care. Now, don't get me started on the folks I see every day yacking/texting on their phones on LBJ! Unplugged and loving it! Mark From: Louise Power [mailto:power_lou...@hotmail.com] Sent: Fri 12/18/2009 4:07 PM To: Texas Cavers Subject: RE: [Texascavers] RE: Can plumbers be trusted with cell phones? Mine stays turned off and tucked away in my purse (just in case I need it on the road). I vowed when I got rid of my house phone about ten years ago and got a cell phone, that it would be for my convenience only. If people can find my number, they can call me and leave a message (I generally check it about once a week), but there are only about five people who have the number (for emergencies). The tether has been cut and I am not constantly on call. Louise - Visit our website: http://texascavers.com To unsubscribe, e-mail: texascavers-unsubscr...@texascavers.com For additional commands, e-mail: texascavers-h...@texascavers.com
Re: [Texascavers] RE: Can plumbers be trusted with cell phones?
Agreed Don, modern smart phones are not just phones anymore, they are amongst the smallest netbooks made. My Iphone is much faster than my first computer and has Gigs of storage, my first used tape drives. In a pinch, I can vpn into my office with my iphone, remote a windows or unix workstation, ssh into a terminal on a router, switch, firewall or a unix server. I carry hundreds of books around with me for entertainment, have a few movies and quite a few songs. I love the ability that my library goes with me, if I'm sitting in a waiting room at a garage, doctors office, or just have 10 mins to kill while waiting on something/someone, I have my books with me. Too many times in the past I was caught somewhere and didn't have my current book with me. I rarely talk on my phone, its used more as a computer :) Charles On Mon, Dec 21, 2009 at 9:49 AM, Don Arburn donarb...@mac.com wrote: Editor of the Caver. You probably are between the keyboard and chair more than most of us. Luddite, ain't that rich! I'm not so much tethered to my iPhone (I turn off the phone regularly) as having a toolkit in my pocket. Calculator, weather, map, translator, radio, remote control, dictionary, camera, sky chart, movie listing, chemical light stick, clock, currency exchange, tip calculator, bird identification book, text, email, Google, and a dozen other ways to pass the time while waiting for my tractor... In one small package. Don's iPhone. On Dec 21, 2009, at 7:21 AM, mark.al...@l-3com.com wrote: I like your style, Louise! I keep my candy bar cell phone in the truck and, usually, turned off. I hate to sound like a Luddite, but, I can't understand how so many people's lives revolve around or are tethered to their cell phones, especially, the iPhones. (Addicted?) My kids are the biggest culprits, but, as long as they're paying their own bills, I don't care. Now, don't get me started on the folks I see every day yacking/texting on their phones on LBJ! Unplugged and loving it! Mark From: Louise Power [mailto:power_lou...@hotmail.com] Sent: Fri 12/18/2009 4:07 PM To: Texas Cavers Subject: RE: [Texascavers] RE: Can plumbers be trusted with cell phones? Mine stays turned off and tucked away in my purse (just in case I need it on the road). I vowed when I got rid of my house phone about ten years ago and got a cell phone, that it would be for my convenience only. If people can find my number, they can call me and leave a message (I generally check it about once a week), but there are only about five people who have the number (for emergencies). The tether has been cut and I am not constantly on call. Louise
RE: [Texascavers] RE: Can plumbers be trusted with cell phones?
I like your style, Louise! I keep my candy bar cell phone in the truck and, usually, turned off. I hate to sound like a Luddite, but, I can't understand how so many people's lives revolve around or are tethered to their cell phones, especially, the iPhones. (Addicted?) My kids are the biggest culprits, but, as long as they're paying their own bills, I don't care. Now, don't get me started on the folks I see every day yacking/texting on their phones on LBJ! Unplugged and loving it! Mark From: Louise Power [mailto:power_lou...@hotmail.com] Sent: Fri 12/18/2009 4:07 PM To: Texas Cavers Subject: RE: [Texascavers] RE: Can plumbers be trusted with cell phones? Mine stays turned off and tucked away in my purse (just in case I need it on the road). I vowed when I got rid of my house phone about ten years ago and got a cell phone, that it would be for my convenience only. If people can find my number, they can call me and leave a message (I generally check it about once a week), but there are only about five people who have the number (for emergencies). The tether has been cut and I am not constantly on call. Louise
Re: [Texascavers] RE: Can plumbers be trusted with cell phones?
Editor of the Caver. You probably are between the keyboard and chair more than most of us. Luddite, ain't that rich! I'm not so much tethered to my iPhone (I turn off the phone regularly) as having a toolkit in my pocket. Calculator, weather, map, translator, radio, remote control, dictionary, camera, sky chart, movie listing, chemical light stick, clock, currency exchange, tip calculator, bird identification book, text, email, Google, and a dozen other ways to pass the time while waiting for my tractor... In one small package. Don's iPhone. On Dec 21, 2009, at 7:21 AM, mark.al...@l-3com.com wrote: I like your style, Louise! I keep my candy bar cell phone in the truck and, usually, turned off. I hate to sound like a Luddite, but, I can't understand how so many people's lives revolve around or are tethered to their cell phones, especially, the iPhones. (Addicted?) My kids are the biggest culprits, but, as long as they're paying their own bills, I don't care. Now, don't get me started on the folks I see every day yacking/ texting on their phones on LBJ! Unplugged and loving it! Mark From: Louise Power [mailto:power_lou...@hotmail.com] Sent: Fri 12/18/2009 4:07 PM To: Texas Cavers Subject: RE: [Texascavers] RE: Can plumbers be trusted with cell phones? Mine stays turned off and tucked away in my purse (just in case I need it on the road). I vowed when I got rid of my house phone about ten years ago and got a cell phone, that it would be for my convenience only. If people can find my number, they can call me and leave a message (I generally check it about once a week), but there are only about five people who have the number (for emergencies). The tether has been cut and I am not constantly on call. Louise
RE: [Texascavers] RE: Can plumbers be trusted with cell phones?
Reminds me of the Shakespeare quote - The lady (or man) doth protest too much, methinks. Anyway, it is a great tool to avoid having to socially interact with people, whether you’re texting, looking something up, or pretending to do either. LOL, G From: Don Arburn [mailto:donarb...@mac.com] Sent: Monday, December 21, 2009 9:50 AM Cc: texascavers@texascavers.com Subject: Re: [Texascavers] RE: Can plumbers be trusted with cell phones? Editor of the Caver. You probably are between the keyboard and chair more than most of us. Luddite, ain't that rich! I'm not so much tethered to my iPhone (I turn off the phone regularly) as having a toolkit in my pocket. Calculator, weather, map, translator, radio, remote control, dictionary, camera, sky chart, movie listing, chemical light stick, clock, currency exchange, tip calculator, bird identification book, text, email, Google, and a dozen other ways to pass the time while waiting for my tractor... In one small package. Don's iPhone. On Dec 21, 2009, at 7:21 AM, mark.al...@l-3com.commailto:mark.al...@l-3com.com wrote: I like your style, Louise! I keep my candy bar cell phone in the truck and, usually, turned off. I hate to sound like a Luddite, but, I can't understand how so many people's lives revolve around or are tethered to their cell phones, especially, the iPhones. (Addicted?) My kids are the biggest culprits, but, as long as they're paying their own bills, I don't care. Now, don't get me started on the folks I see every day yacking/texting on their phones on LBJ! Unplugged and loving it! Mark From: Louise Power [mailto:power_lou...@hotmail.com] Sent: Fri 12/18/2009 4:07 PM To: Texas Cavers Subject: RE: [Texascavers] RE: Can plumbers be trusted with cell phones? Mine stays turned off and tucked away in my purse (just in case I need it on the road). I vowed when I got rid of my house phone about ten years ago and got a cell phone, that it would be for my convenience only. If people can find my number, they can call me and leave a message (I generally check it about once a week), but there are only about five people who have the number (for emergencies). The tether has been cut and I am not constantly on call. Louise
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I'm not so much tethered to my iPhone (I turn off the phone regularly) as having a toolkit in my pocket. Calculator, weather, map, translator, radio, remote control, dictionary, camera, sky chart, movie listing, chemical light stick, clock, currency exchange, tip calculator, bird identification book, text, email, Google, and a dozen other ways to pass the time while waiting for my tractor... In one small package. ... and GPS coordinates to your favorite, secret cave ...
RE: [Texascavers] RE: Can plumbers be trusted with cell phones?
I don't consider either of us Luddites, just smart. Use technology when it serves you; don't when it doesn't. Oh, BTW, don't even consider using a handheld on the Left Coast after Jan 1. California already has banned handhelds; the ban in Oregon begins Jan 1. Bluetooth OK; handheld not OK. From: mark.al...@l-3com.com List-Post: texascavers@texascavers.com Date: Mon, 21 Dec 2009 07:21:30 -0600 To: power_lou...@hotmail.com CC: texascavers@texascavers.com Subject: RE: [Texascavers] RE: Can plumbers be trusted with cell phones? I like your style, Louise! I keep my candy bar cell phone in the truck and, usually, turned off. I hate to sound like a Luddite, but, I can't understand how so many people's lives revolve around or are tethered to their cell phones, especially, the iPhones. (Addicted?) My kids are the biggest culprits, but, as long as they're paying their own bills, I don't care. Now, don't get me started on the folks I see every day yacking/texting on their phones on LBJ! Unplugged and loving it! Mark From: Louise Power [mailto:power_lou...@hotmail.com] Sent: Fri 12/18/2009 4:07 PM To: Texas Cavers Subject: RE: [Texascavers] RE: Can plumbers be trusted with cell phones? Mine stays turned off and tucked away in my purse (just in case I need it on the road). I vowed when I got rid of my house phone about ten years ago and got a cell phone, that it would be for my convenience only. If people can find my number, they can call me and leave a message (I generally check it about once a week), but there are only about five people who have the number (for emergencies). The tether has been cut and I am not constantly on call. Louise
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Our plumber Marty has a plumbing business with his two sons. One day we were having a problem with our connection to the Irving City Sewer system (tree roots had invaded the line, which we eventually replaced) and Marty was bent over the open connection to our sewer line, preparing to run a snake down it. His youngest son chastised him loudly for leaving his cell phone in his front shirt pocket. You wouldn't think that the odds would be high for having the phone slide out of a shirt pocket and down such a small hole, but apparently this had become a rather expensive occupational hazard for him. Diana On Dec 18, 2009, at 10:55 AM, Geary Schindel wrote: Yes, Also storing things in your shirt pockets around open water wells creates certain opportunities you don’t want to deal with. Geary From: cavera...@aol.com [mailto:cavera...@aol.com] Sent: Friday, December 18, 2009 10:51 AM To: donarb...@mac.com Cc: texascavers@texascavers.com Subject: Re: [Texascavers] RE: Can TSA be trusted with email addresses? Don, I can't imagine reading The Caver on my iPhone. Dangerous, anyway, in the vicinity of a toilet! I lost a Motorola Flip-Phone that way, Roger -Original Message- From: Don Arburn donarb...@mac.com Cc: texascavers Texas texascavers@texascavers.com Sent: Thu, Dec 17, 2009 10:34 pm Subject: Re: [Texascavers] RE: Can TSA be trusted with email addresses? I don't know about y'all, but my NSS News Texas Caver live on the toilet tank for a few weeks as browsing material during my peaceful moments on the throne. I can't imagine reading The Caver on my iPhone. Don's iPhone. On Dec 17, 2009, at 10:27 PM, Chris Vreeland cvreel...@austin.rr.com wrote: I have yet to have a piece of paper run out of batteries. - Visit our website: http://texascavers.com To unsubscribe, e-mail: texascavers-unsubscr...@texascavers.com For additional commands, e-mail: texascavers-h...@texascavers.com * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * Diana R. Tomchick Associate Professor University of Texas Southwestern Medical Center Department of Biochemistry 5323 Harry Hines Blvd. Rm. ND10.214B Dallas, TX 75390-8816, U.S.A. Email: diana.tomch...@utsouthwestern.edu 214-645-6383 (phone) 214-645-6353 (fax) - Visit our website: http://texascavers.com To unsubscribe, e-mail: texascavers-unsubscr...@texascavers.com For additional commands, e-mail: texascavers-h...@texascavers.com
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In my case, the phone was clipped on my belt. But the belt proved not to be thick enough to keep the phone from sliding down it and you know the rest. Roger -Original Message- From: Diana Tomchick diana.tomch...@utsouthwestern.edu To: Geary Schindel gschin...@edwardsaquifer.org Cc: cavera...@aol.com cavera...@aol.com; donarb...@mac.com donarb...@mac.com; texascavers@texascavers.com texascavers@texascavers.com Sent: Fri, Dec 18, 2009 11:40 am Subject: Re: [Texascavers] RE: Can plumbers be trusted with cell phones? Our plumber Marty has a plumbing business with his two sons. One day we were having a problem with our connection to the Irving City Sewer system (tree roots had invaded the line, which we eventually replaced) and Marty was bent over the open connection to our sewer line, preparing to run a snake down it. His youngest son chastised him loudly for leaving his cell phone in his front shirt pocket. You wouldn't think that the odds would be high for having the phone slide out of a shirt pocket and down such a small hole, but apparently this had become a rather expensive occupational hazard for him. Diana On Dec 18, 2009, at 10:55 AM, Geary Schindel wrote: Yes, Also storing things in your shirt pockets around open water wells creates certain opportunities you don’t want to deal with. Geary From: cavera...@aol.com [mailto:cavera...@aol.com] Sent: Friday, December 18, 2009 10:51 AM To: donarb...@mac.com Cc: texascavers@texascavers.com Subject: Re: [Texascavers] RE: Can TSA be trusted with email addresses? Don, I can't imagine reading The Caver on my iPhone. Dangerous, anyway, in the vicinity of a toilet! I lost a Motorola Flip-Phone that way, Roger -Original Message- From: Don Arburn donarb...@mac.com Cc: texascavers Texas texascavers@texascavers.com Sent: Thu, Dec 17, 2009 10:34 pm Subject: Re: [Texascavers] RE: Can TSA be trusted with email addresses? I don't know about y'all, but my NSS News Texas Caver live on the toilet tank for a few weeks as browsing material during my peaceful moments on the throne. I can't imagine reading The Caver on my iPhone. Don's iPhone. On Dec 17, 2009, at 10:27 PM, Chris Vreeland cvreel...@austin.rr.com wrote: I have yet to have a piece of paper run out of batteries. - Visit our website: http://texascavers.com To unsubscribe, e-mail: texascavers-unsubscr...@texascavers.com For additional commands, e-mail: texascavers-h...@texascavers.com * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * Diana R. Tomchick Associate Professor University of Texas Southwestern Medical Center Department of Biochemistry 5323 Harry Hines Blvd. Rm. ND10.214B Dallas, TX 75390-8816, U.S.A. Email: diana.tomch...@utsouthwestern.edu 214-645-6383 (phone) 214-645-6353 (fax) - Visit our website: http://texascavers.com To unsubscribe, e-mail: texascavers-unsubscr...@texascavers.com For additional commands, e-mail: texascavers-h...@texascavers.com
RE: [Texascavers] RE: Can plumbers be trusted with cell phones?
Mine stays turned off and tucked away in my purse (just in case I need it on the road). I vowed when I got rid of my house phone about ten years ago and got a cell phone, that it would be for my convenience only. If people can find my number, they can call me and leave a message (I generally check it about once a week), but there are only about five people who have the number (for emergencies). The tether has been cut and I am not constantly on call. Louise To: diana.tomch...@utsouthwestern.edu; gschin...@edwardsaquifer.org List-Post: texascavers@texascavers.com Date: Fri, 18 Dec 2009 13:00:34 -0500 From: cavera...@aol.com CC: donarb...@mac.com; texascavers@texascavers.com Subject: Re: [Texascavers] RE: Can plumbers be trusted with cell phones? In my case, the phone was clipped on my belt. But the belt proved not to be thick enough to keep the phone from sliding down it and you know the rest. Roger -Original Message- From: Diana Tomchick diana.tomch...@utsouthwestern.edu To: Geary Schindel gschin...@edwardsaquifer.org Cc: cavera...@aol.com cavera...@aol.com; donarb...@mac.com donarb...@mac.com; texascavers@texascavers.com texascavers@texascavers.com Sent: Fri, Dec 18, 2009 11:40 am Subject: Re: [Texascavers] RE: Can plumbers be trusted with cell phones? Our plumber Marty has a plumbing business with his two sons. One day we were having a problem with our connection to the Irving City Sewer system (tree roots had invaded the line, which we eventually replaced) and Marty was bent over the open connection to our sewer line, preparing to run a snake down it. His youngest son chastised him loudly for leaving his cell phone in his front shirt pocket. You wouldn't think that the odds would be high for having the phone slide out of a shirt pocket and down such a small hole, but apparently this had become a rather expensive occupational hazard for him. Diana On Dec 18, 2009, at 10:55 AM, Geary Schindel wrote: Yes, Also storing things in your shirt pockets around open water wells creates certain opportunities you don’t want to deal with. Geary From: cavera...@aol.com [mailto:cavera...@aol.com] Sent: Friday, December 18, 2009 10:51 AM To: donarb...@mac.com Cc: texascavers@texascavers.com Subject: Re: [Texascavers] RE: Can TSA be trusted with email addresses? Don, I can't imagine reading The Caver on my iPhone. Dangerous, anyway, in the vicinity of a toilet! I lost a Motorola Flip-Phone that way, Roger -Original Message- From: Don Arburn donarb...@mac.com Cc: texascavers Texas texascavers@texascavers.com Sent: Thu, Dec 17, 2009 10:34 pm Subject: Re: [Texascavers] RE: Can TSA be trusted with email addresses? I don't know about y'all, but my NSS News Texas Caver live on the toilet tank for a few weeks as browsing material during my peaceful moments on the throne. I can't imagine reading The Caver on my iPhone. Don's iPhone. On Dec 17, 2009, at 10:27 PM, Chris Vreeland cvreel...@austin.rr.com wrote: I have yet to have a piece of paper run out of batteries. - Visit our website: http://texascavers.com To unsubscribe, e-mail: texascavers-unsubscr...@texascavers.com For additional commands, e-mail: texascavers-h...@texascavers.com * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * Diana R. Tomchick Associate Professor University of Texas Southwestern Medical Center Department of Biochemistry 5323 Harry Hines Blvd. Rm. ND10.214B Dallas, TX 75390-8816, U.S.A. Email: diana.tomch...@utsouthwestern.edu 214-645-6383 (phone) 214-645-6353 (fax) - Visit our website: http://texascavers.com To unsubscribe, e-mail: texascavers-unsubscr...@texascavers.com For additional commands, e-mail: texascavers-h...@texascavers.com
