[Texascavers] RE: Mexico #18 of 20

2008-11-30 Thread Minton, Mark
  Sheryl Rieck said:

Below is a link to a listing of the 20 most dangerous places.  George was 
wondering if you think it is more dangerous in Mexico now than it was 20 years 
ago.  We haven't been to Mexico in a while, but we were surprised to see it on 
this list.

  I don't think the majority of Mexico is dangerous at all.  There are, and 
have always been, places you would want to avoid in Mexico City and other big 
urban areas, and along the borders both north and south, but otherwise I find 
it very safe.  I've been going to Mexico almost avery year for the last 40 
years, and I have never felt in danger.  I even went during the years when the 
U. S. government issued travel advisories and was warning of danger south of 
the border.  But they were mainly concerned with big cities and tourist areas.  
Cavers in the hinterlands have never been much threatened with the exception of 
a couple of incidents in Chiapas during the Zapatista rebellion.  The most 
common problem one is likely to encounter is a mild police shakedown, and even 
those have lessened markedly in recent years.  I'll be heading south in about 3 
weeks.

Mark Minton


[Texascavers] RE: Mexico #18 of 20

2008-11-30 Thread Jim Kennedy
I just drove back from Xilitla, SLP, last night, after spending a week in 
Aquismon and Bustamante with 7 other Texas cavers.  Our biggest worry was where 
to find open places to eat after getting back late from mapping caves each 
night. It's a very safe place if you use common sense and don't make yourself 
into a target.  In fact, with the lack of deer, the highways are in some ways 
safer than our own.
 
-- Jim Crash Kennedy, still very tired


Re: [Texascavers] RE: Mexico #18 of 20

2008-11-30 Thread mark gee
That 16 hour drive tires me to. Get that sleep. What caves did you see, I'd 
like to here?
Mark G





From: Jim Kennedy jkenn...@batcon.org
To: texascavers@texascavers.com
Sent: Sunday, November 30, 2008 2:04:47 PM
Subject: [Texascavers] RE: Mexico #18 of 20


I just drove back from Xilitla, SLP, last night, after spending a week in 
Aquismon and Bustamante with 7 other Texas cavers.  Our biggest worry was where 
to find open places to eat after getting back late from mapping caves each 
night. It's a very safe place if you use common sense and don't make yourself 
into a target.  In fact, with the lack of deer, the highways are in some ways 
safer than our own.
 
-- Jim Crash Kennedy, still very tired


  

[Texascavers] RE: Mexico #18 of 20

2008-11-30 Thread Nancy Weaver
Just returned from another delightful week in Mexico, where the only 
trouble seems to be how much of a good time to have.  I have always 
felt safe, hitchhiking (years ago) as a single woman, taking buses or 
driving, visiting friends in cities or caving in remote areas.  I 
have also always felt safe going thru military/armed checkpoints. 
Mexicans like most other people I've encountered around the world 
have generally been likeable and responsive to polite interaction.


There does seem to be an increase in for ransom kidnappings of 
extremely wealthy Mexicans,  at least according to the stories of my 
Mexican friends.  I think the casual american would be quite safe 
from this.


The only unpleasantness I ever experience is crossing back into the 
United States.


Nancy

[Texascavers] RE: Mexico #18 of 20

2008-11-30 Thread Minton, Mark
  Thomas Stich said:

Maria insists that even Chiapas is quite safe for tourists these days.  The 
caver incidents were just during the uprising, right?

  Correct.  It probably wasn't the wisest thing to go to Chiapas at that 
time, especially into the hinterlands.  For the same reason, we decided to 
cancel a trip to Oaxaca last year when there was unrest there due to the 
teachers' strike in Oaxaca City.  Common sense must always prevail.

Mark Minton