Re: [Texascavers] RE: QUITE AN ANALOGY

2007-09-17 Thread Ted Samsel


The Mexicans. 
This has been suggestedto several county governments in NoVA..
anyone else hear this on the current batch of corridos? I was once asked to compose a corrido about Joe Ivy, but never got around to doing it..
http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=14415291
T.
-Original Message- From: "Minton, Mark" <mmin...@nmhu.edu>Sent: Sep 14, 2007 11:33 PM To: texascavers@texascavers.com Subject: [Texascavers] RE: QUITE AN ANALOGY 

 Ted Samsel said:

I'd rather live around Mexicans than some of the pinheaded damyanquis I've been around up here.The locals here in Virginia are itching to build gulags for 'em...

 Which, the Mexicans or the pinheads? ;-)

Mark Minton

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Re: [Texascavers] RE: QUITE AN ANALOGY

2007-09-14 Thread Ted Samsel

I grew up 40 miles from the border near Eagle Pass. I've lived in the north for 
the past 20+ years. I'd rather live around Mexicans than some of the pinheaded 
damyanquis I've been around up here.

The locals here in Virginia are itching to build gulags for 'em...

T.

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Re: [Texascavers] RE: QUITE AN ANALOGY

2007-09-14 Thread Cindy Cohen

I also agree.


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From: vivb...@att.net
To: Fritz Holt fh...@townandcountryins.com, Sullivan, Phyllis 
psulli...@second.org
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Subject: Re: [Texascavers] RE: QUITE AN ANALOGY
Date: Thu, 13 Sep 2007 23:48:40 +

I've learned to tolerate, and even enjoy the off topic discussions of 
vehicles on this listserve. LED household bulbs, google maps, and truck 
tents are similarly interesting, if not directly cave related.


But I have to draw the line at blatant political rhetoric. This is not 
what this list is for. This is taking advantage of an easy medium to reach 
lots of people. People who did not sign up for political propaganda.


-- Original message --
From: Fritz Holt fh...@townandcountryins.com

 Phyllis, I whole-heartedly agree. Our federal, state and local
 governments are out of control with crazy liberal (and some
 conservative) legislators and officials enacting and supporting such
 inane laws and rules.
 I wish it were as easy as simply taking down the bird feeder which
 seems to be out of reach. Unfortunately, these officials don't seem to
 hear their constituent's cries.
 Or is it that we who pay the overblown budgets are no longer the
 majority?
 Until there is an outcry of opposition by the voting majority and REAL
 policing of our borders this burdensome problem will not be corrected.
 The groundswell has not yet become large enough to garner the attention
 of those with the power to address the matter in the proper manner.
 Let's pray that it does soon.
 Fritz Holt, a concerned citizen and lover of our great country and its
 LEGAL freedoms and opportunities.

 -Original Message-
 From: Sullivan, Phyllis [mailto:psulli...@second.org]
 Sent: Thursday, September 13, 2007 3:01 PM
 To: Fritz Holt
 Subject: FW: QUITE AN ANALOGY




 Subject: Fw: QUITE AN ANALOGY

  I bought a bird feeder. I hung it on my back porch and filled it
 with seed.
 
  Within a week we had hundreds of birds taking advantage of the
 continuous flow of free and easily accessible food.
 
  But then the birds started building nests in the boards of the
 patio, above the table, and next to the barbecue.
 
  Then came the poop. It was everywhere: on the patio tile, the
 chairs, the table...everywhere.
 
  Then some of the birds turned mean:
 
  They would dive bomb me and try to peck me even though I had fed
 them out of my own pocket.
 
  And others birds were boisterous and loud:
 
  They sat on the feeder and squawked and screamed at all hours of 
  the

 day and night and demanded that I fill it when it got low on food.
 
  After a while, I couldn't even sit on my own back porch anymore.
 
  I took down the bird feeder and in three days the birds were gone.
 
  I cleaned up their mess and took down the many nests they had built
 all over the patio.
 
 
  Soon, the back yard was like it used to be.. quiet, serene and
 no one demanding their rights to a free meal.
 
  Now lets see... our government gives out free food, subsidized
 housing, free medical care, free education and allows anyone born
 here to be an automatic citizen.
 
 
  Then the illegal's came by the tens of thousands.
 
  Suddenly ! our taxes went up to pay for free services; small
 apartments are housing 5 families: you have to wait 6 hours to be
 seen by an emergency room doctor: your child's 2nd grade class is
 behind other schools because over half the class doesn't speak
 English: Corn Flakes now come in a bilingual box; I have to press
 one to hear my bank talk to me in English, and people waving flags
 other than Old Glory are squawking and screaming in the streets,
 demanding more rights and free liberties.
 
  Maybe it's time for the! government to take down the bird feeder.
 
  If you agree, pass this on.
 



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RE: [Texascavers] RE: QUITE AN ANALOGY

2007-09-14 Thread Fritz Holt
Sorry if I offended/bored you and others. You may call this political
but it is relevant concerning those who govern and tax us all regardless
of any political affiliation. If I get too out of line the powers that
be can kick me out, but I hope not.
Fritz Holt

-Original Message-
From: wesley s [mailto:mudmal...@hotmail.com] 
Sent: Thursday, September 13, 2007 10:54 PM
To: vivb...@att.net; Fritz Holt; psulli...@second.org
Cc: jeh...@aol.com; jhol...@hotmail.com; geekazoidman...@hotmail.com;
texascavers@texascavers.com; Dianne West; bl...@vownet.net;
hea...@satx.rr.com; jim...@gvtc.com
Subject: Re: [Texascavers] RE: QUITE AN ANALOGY

Here Here! Thou shalt keep thy noncaving related rants to thyself!

UTG President
Wes~


From: vivb...@att.net
To: Fritz Holt fh...@townandcountryins.com, Sullivan, Phyllis 
psulli...@second.org
CC: jeh...@aol.com, jhol...@hotmail.com,
geekazoidman...@hotmail.com, 
texascavers@texascavers.com, Dianne West
dw...@townandcountryins.com, 
bl...@vownet.net, hea...@satx.rr.com, jim...@gvtc.com
Subject: Re: [Texascavers] RE: QUITE AN ANALOGY
Date: Thu, 13 Sep 2007 23:48:40 +

I've learned to tolerate, and even enjoy the off topic discussions of 
vehicles on this listserve. LED household bulbs, google maps, and truck

tents are similarly interesting, if not directly cave related.

But I have to draw the line at blatant political rhetoric. This is not
what 
this list is for. This is taking advantage of an easy medium to reach
lots 
of people. People who did not sign up for political propaganda.

-- Original message --
From: Fritz Holt fh...@townandcountryins.com
 
  Phyllis, I whole-heartedly agree. Our federal, state and local
  governments are out of control with crazy liberal (and some
  conservative) legislators and officials enacting and supporting such
  inane laws and rules.
  I wish it were as easy as simply taking down the bird feeder which
  seems to be out of reach. Unfortunately, these officials don't seem
to
  hear their constituent's cries.
  Or is it that we who pay the overblown budgets are no longer the
  majority?
  Until there is an outcry of opposition by the voting majority and
REAL
  policing of our borders this burdensome problem will not be
corrected.
  The groundswell has not yet become large enough to garner the
attention
  of those with the power to address the matter in the proper manner.
  Let's pray that it does soon.
  Fritz Holt, a concerned citizen and lover of our great country and
its
  LEGAL freedoms and opportunities.
 
  -Original Message-
  From: Sullivan, Phyllis [mailto:psulli...@second.org]
  Sent: Thursday, September 13, 2007 3:01 PM
  To: Fritz Holt
  Subject: FW: QUITE AN ANALOGY
 
 
 
 
  Subject: Fw: QUITE AN ANALOGY
 
   I bought a bird feeder. I hung it on my back porch and filled it
  with seed.
  
   Within a week we had hundreds of birds taking advantage of the
  continuous flow of free and easily accessible food.
  
   But then the birds started building nests in the boards of the
  patio, above the table, and next to the barbecue.
  
   Then came the poop. It was everywhere: on the patio tile, the
  chairs, the table...everywhere.
  
   Then some of the birds turned mean:
  
   They would dive bomb me and try to peck me even though I had fed
  them out of my own pocket.
  
   And others birds were boisterous and loud:
  
   They sat on the feeder and squawked and screamed at all hours of
the
  day and night and demanded that I fill it when it got low on
food.
  
   After a while, I couldn't even sit on my own back porch anymore.
  
   I took down the bird feeder and in three days the birds were
gone.
  
   I cleaned up their mess and took down the many nests they had
built
  all over the patio.
  
  
   Soon, the back yard was like it used to be.. quiet, serene
and
  no one demanding their rights to a free meal.
  
   Now lets see... our government gives out free food,
subsidized
  housing, free medical care, free education and allows anyone born
  here to be an automatic citizen.
  
  
   Then the illegal's came by the tens of thousands.
  
   Suddenly ! our taxes went up to pay for free services; small
  apartments are housing 5 families: you have to wait 6 hours to be
  seen by an emergency room doctor: your child's 2nd grade class is
  behind other schools because over half the class doesn't speak
  English: Corn Flakes now come in a bilingual box; I have to press
  one to hear my bank talk to me in English, and people waving
flags
  other than Old Glory are squawking and screaming in the
streets,
  demanding more rights and free liberties.
  
   Maybe it's time for the! government to take down the bird
feeder.
  
   If you agree, pass this on.
  
 
 
 
 
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RE: [Texascavers] RE: QUITE AN ANALOGY

2007-09-14 Thread Stefan Creaser
Sure it's relevant, but not on CaveTex...

Cheers,
Stefan

-Original Message-
From: Fritz Holt [mailto:fh...@townandcountryins.com] 
Sent: Friday, September 14, 2007 12:09 PM
To: wesley s; vivb...@att.net; psulli...@second.org
Cc: jeh...@aol.com; jhol...@hotmail.com; geekazoidman...@hotmail.com;
texascavers@texascavers.com; Dianne West; bl...@vownet.net;
hea...@satx.rr.com; jim...@gvtc.com
Subject: RE: [Texascavers] RE: QUITE AN ANALOGY

Sorry if I offended/bored you and others. You may call this political
but it is relevant concerning those who govern and tax us all regardless
of any political affiliation. If I get too out of line the powers that
be can kick me out, but I hope not.
Fritz Holt

-Original Message-
From: wesley s [mailto:mudmal...@hotmail.com] 
Sent: Thursday, September 13, 2007 10:54 PM
To: vivb...@att.net; Fritz Holt; psulli...@second.org
Cc: jeh...@aol.com; jhol...@hotmail.com; geekazoidman...@hotmail.com;
texascavers@texascavers.com; Dianne West; bl...@vownet.net;
hea...@satx.rr.com; jim...@gvtc.com
Subject: Re: [Texascavers] RE: QUITE AN ANALOGY

Here Here! Thou shalt keep thy noncaving related rants to thyself!

UTG President
Wes~


From: vivb...@att.net
To: Fritz Holt fh...@townandcountryins.com, Sullivan, Phyllis 
psulli...@second.org
CC: jeh...@aol.com, jhol...@hotmail.com,
geekazoidman...@hotmail.com, 
texascavers@texascavers.com, Dianne West
dw...@townandcountryins.com, 
bl...@vownet.net, hea...@satx.rr.com, jim...@gvtc.com
Subject: Re: [Texascavers] RE: QUITE AN ANALOGY
Date: Thu, 13 Sep 2007 23:48:40 +

I've learned to tolerate, and even enjoy the off topic discussions of 
vehicles on this listserve. LED household bulbs, google maps, and truck

tents are similarly interesting, if not directly cave related.

But I have to draw the line at blatant political rhetoric. This is not
what 
this list is for. This is taking advantage of an easy medium to reach
lots 
of people. People who did not sign up for political propaganda.

-- Original message --
From: Fritz Holt fh...@townandcountryins.com
 
  Phyllis, I whole-heartedly agree. Our federal, state and local
  governments are out of control with crazy liberal (and some
  conservative) legislators and officials enacting and supporting such
  inane laws and rules.
  I wish it were as easy as simply taking down the bird feeder which
  seems to be out of reach. Unfortunately, these officials don't seem
to
  hear their constituent's cries.
  Or is it that we who pay the overblown budgets are no longer the
  majority?
  Until there is an outcry of opposition by the voting majority and
REAL
  policing of our borders this burdensome problem will not be
corrected.
  The groundswell has not yet become large enough to garner the
attention
  of those with the power to address the matter in the proper manner.
  Let's pray that it does soon.
  Fritz Holt, a concerned citizen and lover of our great country and
its
  LEGAL freedoms and opportunities.
 
  -Original Message-
  From: Sullivan, Phyllis [mailto:psulli...@second.org]
  Sent: Thursday, September 13, 2007 3:01 PM
  To: Fritz Holt
  Subject: FW: QUITE AN ANALOGY
 
 
 
 
  Subject: Fw: QUITE AN ANALOGY
 
   I bought a bird feeder. I hung it on my back porch and filled it
  with seed.
  
   Within a week we had hundreds of birds taking advantage of the
  continuous flow of free and easily accessible food.
  
   But then the birds started building nests in the boards of the
  patio, above the table, and next to the barbecue.
  
   Then came the poop. It was everywhere: on the patio tile, the
  chairs, the table...everywhere.
  
   Then some of the birds turned mean:
  
   They would dive bomb me and try to peck me even though I had fed
  them out of my own pocket.
  
   And others birds were boisterous and loud:
  
   They sat on the feeder and squawked and screamed at all hours of
the
  day and night and demanded that I fill it when it got low on
food.
  
   After a while, I couldn't even sit on my own back porch anymore.
  
   I took down the bird feeder and in three days the birds were
gone.
  
   I cleaned up their mess and took down the many nests they had
built
  all over the patio.
  
  
   Soon, the back yard was like it used to be.. quiet, serene
and
  no one demanding their rights to a free meal.
  
   Now lets see... our government gives out free food,
subsidized
  housing, free medical care, free education and allows anyone born
  here to be an automatic citizen.
  
  
   Then the illegal's came by the tens of thousands.
  
   Suddenly ! our taxes went up to pay for free services; small
  apartments are housing 5 families: you have to wait 6 hours to be
  seen by an emergency room doctor: your child's 2nd grade class is
  behind other schools because over half the class doesn't speak
  English: Corn Flakes now come in a bilingual box; I have to press
  one to hear my bank talk to me in English, and people waving

[Texascavers] RE: QUITE AN ANALOGY

2007-09-14 Thread Minton, Mark
  Ted Samsel said:

I'd rather live around Mexicans than some of the pinheaded damyanquis I've 
been around up here.
The locals here in Virginia are itching to build gulags for 'em...

  Which, the Mexicans or the pinheads?  ;-)

Mark Minton


[Texascavers] RE: QUITE AN ANALOGY

2007-09-13 Thread Fritz Holt
Phyllis, I whole-heartedly agree. Our federal, state and local
governments are out of control with crazy liberal (and some
conservative) legislators and officials enacting and supporting such
inane laws and rules.
I wish it were as easy as simply taking down the bird feeder which
seems to be out of reach. Unfortunately, these officials don't seem to
hear their constituent's cries.
Or is it that we who pay the overblown budgets are no longer the
majority?
Until there is an outcry of opposition by the voting majority and REAL
policing of our borders this burdensome problem will not be corrected.
The groundswell has not yet become large enough to garner the attention
of those with the power to address the matter in the proper manner.
Let's pray that it does soon.
Fritz Holt, a concerned citizen and lover of our great country and its
LEGAL freedoms and opportunities.

-Original Message-
From: Sullivan, Phyllis [mailto:psulli...@second.org] 
Sent: Thursday, September 13, 2007 3:01 PM
To: Fritz Holt
Subject: FW: QUITE AN ANALOGY




Subject: Fw: QUITE AN ANALOGY

 I bought a bird feeder. I hung it on my back porch and filled it
with seed.

 Within a week we had hundreds of birds taking advantage of the
continuous flow of free and easily accessible food.

 But then the birds started building nests in the boards of the
patio, above the table, and next to the barbecue.

 Then came the poop. It was everywhere: on the patio tile, the
chairs, the table...everywhere.

 Then some of the birds turned mean:

 They would dive bomb me and try to peck me even though I had fed
them out of my own pocket.

 And others birds were boisterous and loud:

 They sat on the feeder and squawked and screamed at all hours of the
day and night and demanded that I fill it when it got low on food.

 After a while, I couldn't even sit on my own back porch anymore.

 I took down the bird feeder and in three days the birds were gone.

 I cleaned up their mess and took down the many nests they had built
all over the patio.


 Soon, the back yard was like it used to be.. quiet, serene and
no one demanding their rights to a free meal.

 Now lets see... our government gives out free food, subsidized
housing, free medical care, free education and allows anyone born
here to be an automatic citizen.


 Then the illegal's came by the tens of thousands.

 Suddenly ! our taxes went up to pay for free services; small
apartments are housing 5 families: you have to wait 6 hours to be
seen by an emergency room doctor: your child's 2nd grade class is
behind other schools because over half the class doesn't speak
English: Corn Flakes now come in a bilingual box; I have to press
one to hear my bank talk to me in English, and people waving flags
other than Old Glory are squawking and screaming in the streets,
demanding more rights and free liberties.

 Maybe it's time for the! government to take down the bird feeder.

 If you agree, pass this on.
 



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Re: [Texascavers] RE: QUITE AN ANALOGY

2007-09-13 Thread vivbone
I've learned to tolerate, and even enjoy the off topic discussions of vehicles 
on this listserve. LED household bulbs, google maps, and truck tents are 
similarly interesting, if not directly cave related.
 
But I have to draw the line at blatant political rhetoric. This is not what 
this list is for. This is taking advantage of an easy medium to reach lots of 
people. People who did not sign up for political propaganda.

-- Original message --
From: Fritz Holt fh...@townandcountryins.com

 Phyllis, I whole-heartedly agree. Our federal, state and local
 governments are out of control with crazy liberal (and some
 conservative) legislators and officials enacting and supporting such
 inane laws and rules.
 I wish it were as easy as simply taking down the bird feeder which
 seems to be out of reach. Unfortunately, these officials don't seem to
 hear their constituent's cries.
 Or is it that we who pay the overblown budgets are no longer the
 majority?
 Until there is an outcry of opposition by the voting majority and REAL
 policing of our borders this burdensome problem will not be corrected.
 The groundswell has not yet become large enough to garner the attention
 of those with the power to address the matter in the proper manner.
 Let's pray that it does soon.
 Fritz Holt, a concerned citizen and lover of our great country and its
 LEGAL freedoms and opportunities.
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Sullivan, Phyllis [mailto:psulli...@second.org] 
 Sent: Thursday, September 13, 2007 3:01 PM
 To: Fritz Holt
 Subject: FW: QUITE AN ANALOGY
 
 
 
 
 Subject: Fw: QUITE AN ANALOGY
 
  I bought a bird feeder. I hung it on my back porch and filled it
 with seed.
 
  Within a week we had hundreds of birds taking advantage of the
 continuous flow of free and easily accessible food.
 
  But then the birds started building nests in the boards of the
 patio, above the table, and next to the barbecue.
 
  Then came the poop. It was everywhere: on the patio tile, the
 chairs, the table...everywhere.
 
  Then some of the birds turned mean:
 
  They would dive bomb me and try to peck me even though I had fed
 them out of my own pocket.
 
  And others birds were boisterous and loud:
 
  They sat on the feeder and squawked and screamed at all hours of the
 day and night and demanded that I fill it when it got low on food.
 
  After a while, I couldn't even sit on my own back porch anymore.
 
  I took down the bird feeder and in three days the birds were gone.
 
  I cleaned up their mess and took down the many nests they had built
 all over the patio.
 
 
  Soon, the back yard was like it used to be.. quiet, serene and
 no one demanding their rights to a free meal.
 
  Now lets see... our government gives out free food, subsidized
 housing, free medical care, free education and allows anyone born
 here to be an automatic citizen.
 
 
  Then the illegal's came by the tens of thousands.
 
  Suddenly ! our taxes went up to pay for free services; small
 apartments are housing 5 families: you have to wait 6 hours to be
 seen by an emergency room doctor: your child's 2nd grade class is
 behind other schools because over half the class doesn't speak
 English: Corn Flakes now come in a bilingual box; I have to press
 one to hear my bank talk to me in English, and people waving flags
 other than Old Glory are squawking and screaming in the streets,
 demanding more rights and free liberties.
 
  Maybe it's time for the! government to take down the bird feeder.
 
  If you agree, pass this on.
  
 
 
 
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RE: [Texascavers] RE: QUITE AN ANALOGY

2007-09-13 Thread Joe S. Ranzau
So not to be rude but this is one of the dumbest things I have seen sent to
Texas Cavers in a long while and lord knows I have sent plenty my self.

Good luck, I would duck for cover...

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Re: [Texascavers] RE: QUITE AN ANALOGY

2007-09-13 Thread Oscar Berrones

Oye guey,  me lo podrias Traducir al ESPAÑOL Gracias
Bombon
On Sep 13, 2007, at 3:44 PM, Fritz Holt wrote:


Phyllis, I whole-heartedly agree. Our federal, state and local
governments are out of control with crazy liberal (and some
conservative) legislators and officials enacting and supporting such
inane laws and rules.
I wish it were as easy as simply taking down the bird feeder which
seems to be out of reach. Unfortunately, these officials don't seem to
hear their constituent's cries.
Or is it that we who pay the overblown budgets are no longer the
majority?
Until there is an outcry of opposition by the voting majority and REAL
policing of our borders this burdensome problem will not be corrected.
The groundswell has not yet become large enough to garner the  
attention

of those with the power to address the matter in the proper manner.
Let's pray that it does soon.
Fritz Holt, a concerned citizen and lover of our great country and its
LEGAL freedoms and opportunities.

-Original Message-
From: Sullivan, Phyllis [mailto:psulli...@second.org]
Sent: Thursday, September 13, 2007 3:01 PM
To: Fritz Holt
Subject: FW: QUITE AN ANALOGY




Subject: Fw: QUITE AN ANALOGY


I bought a bird feeder. I hung it on my back porch and filled it
with seed.

Within a week we had hundreds of birds taking advantage of the
continuous flow of free and easily accessible food.

But then the birds started building nests in the boards of the
patio, above the table, and next to the barbecue.

Then came the poop. It was everywhere: on the patio tile, the
chairs, the table...everywhere.



Then some of the birds turned mean:

They would dive bomb me and try to peck me even though I had fed
them out of my own pocket.

And others birds were boisterous and loud:

They sat on the feeder and squawked and screamed at all hours of  
the

day and night and demanded that I fill it when it got low on food.

After a while, I couldn't even sit on my own back porch anymore.

I took down the bird feeder and in three days the birds were gone.

I cleaned up their mess and took down the many nests they had built
all over the patio.


Soon, the back yard was like it used to be.. quiet, serene and
no one demanding their rights to a free meal.

Now lets see... our government gives out free food, subsidized
housing, free medical care, free education and allows anyone born
here to be an automatic citizen.


Then the illegal's came by the tens of thousands.

Suddenly ! our taxes went up to pay for free services; small
apartments are housing 5 families: you have to wait 6 hours to be
seen by an emergency room doctor: your child's 2nd grade class is
behind other schools because over half the class doesn't speak
English: Corn Flakes now come in a bilingual box; I have to press
one to hear my bank talk to me in English, and people waving  
flags

other than Old Glory are squawking and screaming in the streets,
demanding more rights and free liberties.

Maybe it's time for the! government to take down the bird feeder.

If you agree, pass this on.






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Re: [Texascavers] RE: QUITE AN ANALOGY

2007-09-13 Thread wesley s

Here Here! Thou shalt keep thy noncaving related rants to thyself!

UTG President
Wes~



From: vivb...@att.net
To: Fritz Holt fh...@townandcountryins.com, Sullivan, Phyllis 
psulli...@second.org
CC: jeh...@aol.com, jhol...@hotmail.com, geekazoidman...@hotmail.com, 
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Subject: Re: [Texascavers] RE: QUITE AN ANALOGY
Date: Thu, 13 Sep 2007 23:48:40 +

I've learned to tolerate, and even enjoy the off topic discussions of 
vehicles on this listserve. LED household bulbs, google maps, and truck 
tents are similarly interesting, if not directly cave related.


But I have to draw the line at blatant political rhetoric. This is not what 
this list is for. This is taking advantage of an easy medium to reach lots 
of people. People who did not sign up for political propaganda.


-- Original message --
From: Fritz Holt fh...@townandcountryins.com

 Phyllis, I whole-heartedly agree. Our federal, state and local
 governments are out of control with crazy liberal (and some
 conservative) legislators and officials enacting and supporting such
 inane laws and rules.
 I wish it were as easy as simply taking down the bird feeder which
 seems to be out of reach. Unfortunately, these officials don't seem to
 hear their constituent's cries.
 Or is it that we who pay the overblown budgets are no longer the
 majority?
 Until there is an outcry of opposition by the voting majority and REAL
 policing of our borders this burdensome problem will not be corrected.
 The groundswell has not yet become large enough to garner the attention
 of those with the power to address the matter in the proper manner.
 Let's pray that it does soon.
 Fritz Holt, a concerned citizen and lover of our great country and its
 LEGAL freedoms and opportunities.

 -Original Message-
 From: Sullivan, Phyllis [mailto:psulli...@second.org]
 Sent: Thursday, September 13, 2007 3:01 PM
 To: Fritz Holt
 Subject: FW: QUITE AN ANALOGY




 Subject: Fw: QUITE AN ANALOGY

  I bought a bird feeder. I hung it on my back porch and filled it
 with seed.
 
  Within a week we had hundreds of birds taking advantage of the
 continuous flow of free and easily accessible food.
 
  But then the birds started building nests in the boards of the
 patio, above the table, and next to the barbecue.
 
  Then came the poop. It was everywhere: on the patio tile, the
 chairs, the table...everywhere.
 
  Then some of the birds turned mean:
 
  They would dive bomb me and try to peck me even though I had fed
 them out of my own pocket.
 
  And others birds were boisterous and loud:
 
  They sat on the feeder and squawked and screamed at all hours of the
 day and night and demanded that I fill it when it got low on food.
 
  After a while, I couldn't even sit on my own back porch anymore.
 
  I took down the bird feeder and in three days the birds were gone.
 
  I cleaned up their mess and took down the many nests they had built
 all over the patio.
 
 
  Soon, the back yard was like it used to be.. quiet, serene and
 no one demanding their rights to a free meal.
 
  Now lets see... our government gives out free food, subsidized
 housing, free medical care, free education and allows anyone born
 here to be an automatic citizen.
 
 
  Then the illegal's came by the tens of thousands.
 
  Suddenly ! our taxes went up to pay for free services; small
 apartments are housing 5 families: you have to wait 6 hours to be
 seen by an emergency room doctor: your child's 2nd grade class is
 behind other schools because over half the class doesn't speak
 English: Corn Flakes now come in a bilingual box; I have to press
 one to hear my bank talk to me in English, and people waving flags
 other than Old Glory are squawking and screaming in the streets,
 demanding more rights and free liberties.
 
  Maybe it's time for the! government to take down the bird feeder.
 
  If you agree, pass this on.
 



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Re: [Texascavers] RE: QUITE AN ANALOGY

2007-09-13 Thread Nico Escamilla
Yeah, what Wes just said..
whoever started this thread, must I remind you that the US originally
belonged to the indians/natives or whatever you wanna call them and the
white man slaughtered them and forced them to live in reservations? and
thats only the upper half of the country, the lower half belonged to Mexico.
so please keep those comments about out of texascavers

On 9/13/07, wesley s mudmal...@hotmail.com wrote:

 Here Here! Thou shalt keep thy noncaving related rants to thyself!

 UTG President
 Wes~


 From: vivb...@att.net
 To: Fritz Holt fh...@townandcountryins.com, Sullivan, Phyllis
 psulli...@second.org
 CC: jeh...@aol.com, jhol...@hotmail.com, geekazoidman...@hotmail.com
 ,
 texascavers@texascavers.com, Dianne West dw...@townandcountryins.com
 ,
 bl...@vownet.net, hea...@satx.rr.com, jim...@gvtc.com
 Subject: Re: [Texascavers] RE: QUITE AN ANALOGY
 Date: Thu, 13 Sep 2007 23:48:40 +
 
 I've learned to tolerate, and even enjoy the off topic discussions of
 vehicles on this listserve. LED household bulbs, google maps, and truck
 tents are similarly interesting, if not directly cave related.
 
 But I have to draw the line at blatant political rhetoric. This is not
 what
 this list is for. This is taking advantage of an easy medium to reach
 lots
 of people. People who did not sign up for political propaganda.
 
 -- Original message --
 From: Fritz Holt fh...@townandcountryins.com
  
   Phyllis, I whole-heartedly agree. Our federal, state and local
   governments are out of control with crazy liberal (and some
   conservative) legislators and officials enacting and supporting such
   inane laws and rules.
   I wish it were as easy as simply taking down the bird feeder which
   seems to be out of reach. Unfortunately, these officials don't seem to
   hear their constituent's cries.
   Or is it that we who pay the overblown budgets are no longer the
   majority?
   Until there is an outcry of opposition by the voting majority and REAL
   policing of our borders this burdensome problem will not be corrected.
   The groundswell has not yet become large enough to garner the
 attention
   of those with the power to address the matter in the proper manner.
   Let's pray that it does soon.
   Fritz Holt, a concerned citizen and lover of our great country and its
   LEGAL freedoms and opportunities.
  
   -Original Message-
   From: Sullivan, Phyllis [mailto:psulli...@second.org]
   Sent: Thursday, September 13, 2007 3:01 PM
   To: Fritz Holt
   Subject: FW: QUITE AN ANALOGY
  
  
  
  
   Subject: Fw: QUITE AN ANALOGY
  
I bought a bird feeder. I hung it on my back porch and filled it
   with seed.
   
Within a week we had hundreds of birds taking advantage of the
   continuous flow of free and easily accessible food.
   
But then the birds started building nests in the boards of the
   patio, above the table, and next to the barbecue.
   
Then came the poop. It was everywhere: on the patio tile, the
   chairs, the table...everywhere.
   
Then some of the birds turned mean:
   
They would dive bomb me and try to peck me even though I had fed
   them out of my own pocket.
   
And others birds were boisterous and loud:
   
They sat on the feeder and squawked and screamed at all hours of
 the
   day and night and demanded that I fill it when it got low on food.
   
After a while, I couldn't even sit on my own back porch anymore.
   
I took down the bird feeder and in three days the birds were gone.
   
I cleaned up their mess and took down the many nests they had
 built
   all over the patio.
   
   
Soon, the back yard was like it used to be.. quiet, serene and
   no one demanding their rights to a free meal.
   
Now lets see... our government gives out free food, subsidized
   housing, free medical care, free education and allows anyone born
   here to be an automatic citizen.
   
   
Then the illegal's came by the tens of thousands.
   
Suddenly ! our taxes went up to pay for free services; small
   apartments are housing 5 families: you have to wait 6 hours to be
   seen by an emergency room doctor: your child's 2nd grade class is
   behind other schools because over half the class doesn't speak
   English: Corn Flakes now come in a bilingual box; I have to press
   one to hear my bank talk to me in English, and people waving
 flags
   other than Old Glory are squawking and screaming in the streets,
   demanding more rights and free liberties.
   
Maybe it's time for the! government to take down the bird feeder.
   
If you agree, pass this on.
   
  
  
  
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