Re: [Texascavers] Re: Weekend Work Trip to Laguna de Sanchez
Gary, I have been saving a cat food bags and water softener salt bags for the last few years. When I poured the slab to for my workshop, we used bags like this filled with dirt to create the the concrete beams in the slab. I thought I'd save them for my next slab ... I don't need all these bags so if you want them for road repair, you can take them with you. They should be useful for holding dirt and sand together for a nice road base. Some are paper, and some are plastic. The plastic ones would probably hold up pretty well near creeks. Let me know if you want them, and I can bring them over. Andy On Sat, Aug 21, 2010 at 6:30 AM, Gary Franklin wrote: > Mark, > Thanks for the positive assessment and encouragement. > I edited the set of photos initially posted at the link which showed > essentially a hike down the road. Many of the non-issue area photos were > deleted to focus on the problem areas. > > Many folks have offered advice toward clearing the pathway just enough for > a minimal vehicle egress. Using sand bags to fill areas between big rocks as > well as heavy duty loading ramps to lay across washout channels are all > under consideration. Similar to moving a vehicle across desert sands where > items are laid down to drive across, then keep moving these tracks as the > vehicle progresses. I challenge them to come apply their best technique. > > I still need more people and another driver to help me out. > > My vehicle rescue party has grown to six potentials that are still not > confirmed. Some folks describe Ediger as a superman, but we still need some > help to make this washed out road passable. > > A piece of equipment would change the whole game. I saw a backhoe in > downtown Laguna de Sanchez last weekend, but was unable to find anyone to > talk to about whether it was available. I am searching for an equipment > rental company in Saltillo, but the mexican web searches are not working for > me. > > You tough cavers out there need to join my party for this weekend to make > short work of this little washed out roadway. Contact me for details. > Forward any equipment rental or owner operator contacts in the Saltillo or > Santiago area as well. > > Gary Franklin > UT Grotto - Austin Texas > 512-585-6057 > caver.g...@gmail.com > > On Fri, Aug 20, 2010 at 12:00 PM, Mark Minton wrote: > >>I agree with Ediger's assessment that most of the road should be >> relatively easy to repair for 4WD passage. Be sure to take a chain saw, a >> come along and a winch, in addition to other earth moving tools. In a >> single day back in 2006 a group of only 8 cavers rebuilt a very washed out >> section of road right down the middle of an arroyo in Purificación, and this >> looks no worse, except for the trees. (See AMCS Activities Newsletter No. >> 30, 2007 and Death Coral Caver No 14, 2009.) Good luck! (By the way, >> Ediger's comment mentioned photos 100-104, but I counted only 93 photos >> total!?) >> >> Mark Minton >> >> >> At 08:53 AM 8/19/2010, Gary Franklin wrote: >> >>> RE: Weekend Work Trip August 28 & 29 >>> >>> Cavers, >>> >>> I am planning a Weekend Work Trip to Laguna de Sanchez to work the road >>> down to the ranch at La Camotera where our vehicles were stranded during the >>> Hurricane Alex rains in early July. There are some areas that need a >>> backhoe, but much of the 4 Km road can be driven by straddling the washout >>> gouges with the 4WD vehicles that need some help to get past some obstacles. >>> >>> Join us for a quick trip to Mexico to help out some cavers who are trying >>> to get there vehicles back from a Caving trip. There was a backho in town >>> that may be for hire. I have some rock bars, shovels, picks, and a chain >>> winch that can provide a better work out than the gym. I need several folks >>> and another driver. The Road to Laguna was accessible via Saltillo where the >>> Santiago way in still lacked a section through the box canyon. We are trying >>> to get to WGS 84 - [ 25.3146, -100.210] or [ N 25 18.876 W 100 12.600 ] >>> >>> A chronological trip down the road are posted at the following public >>> link. >>> >>> http://www.facebook.com/album.php?aid=2078702&id=1422061735&l=f260019c74 >>> >>> nd another . We are leaving out on Friday afternoon, work Saturday and >>> Sunday, and return on Monday. Give me a call or reply to my email to share >>> in the fun that will help out your fellow caver and the Rancher who has been >>> cutoff for a couple of months. >>> >>> Gary Franklin >>> UT Grotto - Austin Texas >>> 512-585-6057 >>> caver.g...@gmail.com >>> >> >> Please reply to mmin...@caver.net >> Permanent email address is mmin...@illinoisalumni.org >> >> - >> Visit our website: http://texascavers.com >> To unsubscribe, e-mail: texascavers-unsubscr...@texascavers.com >> For additional commands, e-mail: texascavers-h...@texascavers.com >> >> >
Re: [Texascavers] Re: Weekend Work Trip to Laguna de Sanchez
Mark, Thanks for the positive assessment and encouragement. I edited the set of photos initially posted at the link which showed essentially a hike down the road. Many of the non-issue area photos were deleted to focus on the problem areas. Many folks have offered advice toward clearing the pathway just enough for a minimal vehicle egress. Using sand bags to fill areas between big rocks as well as heavy duty loading ramps to lay across washout channels are all under consideration. Similar to moving a vehicle across desert sands where items are laid down to drive across, then keep moving these tracks as the vehicle progresses. I challenge them to come apply their best technique. I still need more people and another driver to help me out. My vehicle rescue party has grown to six potentials that are still not confirmed. Some folks describe Ediger as a superman, but we still need some help to make this washed out road passable. A piece of equipment would change the whole game. I saw a backhoe in downtown Laguna de Sanchez last weekend, but was unable to find anyone to talk to about whether it was available. I am searching for an equipment rental company in Saltillo, but the mexican web searches are not working for me. You tough cavers out there need to join my party for this weekend to make short work of this little washed out roadway. Contact me for details. Forward any equipment rental or owner operator contacts in the Saltillo or Santiago area as well. Gary Franklin UT Grotto - Austin Texas 512-585-6057 caver.g...@gmail.com On Fri, Aug 20, 2010 at 12:00 PM, Mark Minton wrote: >I agree with Ediger's assessment that most of the road should be > relatively easy to repair for 4WD passage. Be sure to take a chain saw, a > come along and a winch, in addition to other earth moving tools. In a > single day back in 2006 a group of only 8 cavers rebuilt a very washed out > section of road right down the middle of an arroyo in Purificación, and this > looks no worse, except for the trees. (See AMCS Activities Newsletter No. > 30, 2007 and Death Coral Caver No 14, 2009.) Good luck! (By the way, > Ediger's comment mentioned photos 100-104, but I counted only 93 photos > total!?) > > Mark Minton > > > At 08:53 AM 8/19/2010, Gary Franklin wrote: > >> RE: Weekend Work Trip August 28 & 29 >> >> Cavers, >> >> I am planning a Weekend Work Trip to Laguna de Sanchez to work the road >> down to the ranch at La Camotera where our vehicles were stranded during the >> Hurricane Alex rains in early July. There are some areas that need a >> backhoe, but much of the 4 Km road can be driven by straddling the washout >> gouges with the 4WD vehicles that need some help to get past some obstacles. >> >> Join us for a quick trip to Mexico to help out some cavers who are trying >> to get there vehicles back from a Caving trip. There was a backho in town >> that may be for hire. I have some rock bars, shovels, picks, and a chain >> winch that can provide a better work out than the gym. I need several folks >> and another driver. The Road to Laguna was accessible via Saltillo where the >> Santiago way in still lacked a section through the box canyon. We are trying >> to get to WGS 84 - [ 25.3146, -100.210] or [ N 25 18.876 W 100 12.600 ] >> >> A chronological trip down the road are posted at the following public >> link. >> >> http://www.facebook.com/album.php?aid=2078702&id=1422061735&l=f260019c74 >> >> nd another . We are leaving out on Friday afternoon, work Saturday and >> Sunday, and return on Monday. Give me a call or reply to my email to share >> in the fun that will help out your fellow caver and the Rancher who has been >> cutoff for a couple of months. >> >> Gary Franklin >> UT Grotto - Austin Texas >> 512-585-6057 >> caver.g...@gmail.com >> > > Please reply to mmin...@caver.net > Permanent email address is mmin...@illinoisalumni.org > > - > Visit our website: http://texascavers.com > To unsubscribe, e-mail: texascavers-unsubscr...@texascavers.com > For additional commands, e-mail: texascavers-h...@texascavers.com > >
[Texascavers] Re: Weekend Work Trip to Laguna de Sanchez
I agree with Ediger's assessment that most of the road should be relatively easy to repair for 4WD passage. Be sure to take a chain saw, a come along and a winch, in addition to other earth moving tools. In a single day back in 2006 a group of only 8 cavers rebuilt a very washed out section of road right down the middle of an arroyo in Purificación, and this looks no worse, except for the trees. (See AMCS Activities Newsletter No. 30, 2007 and Death Coral Caver No 14, 2009.) Good luck! (By the way, Ediger's comment mentioned photos 100-104, but I counted only 93 photos total!?) Mark Minton At 08:53 AM 8/19/2010, Gary Franklin wrote: RE: Weekend Work Trip August 28 & 29 Cavers, I am planning a Weekend Work Trip to Laguna de Sanchez to work the road down to the ranch at La Camotera where our vehicles were stranded during the Hurricane Alex rains in early July. There are some areas that need a backhoe, but much of the 4 Km road can be driven by straddling the washout gouges with the 4WD vehicles that need some help to get past some obstacles. Join us for a quick trip to Mexico to help out some cavers who are trying to get there vehicles back from a Caving trip. There was a backho in town that may be for hire. I have some rock bars, shovels, picks, and a chain winch that can provide a better work out than the gym. I need several folks and another driver. The Road to Laguna was accessible via Saltillo where the Santiago way in still lacked a section through the box canyon. We are trying to get to WGS 84 - [ 25.3146, -100.210] or [ N 25 18.876 W 100 12.600 ] A chronological trip down the road are posted at the following public link. http://www.facebook.com/album.php?aid=2078702&id=1422061735&l=f260019c74 nd another . We are leaving out on Friday afternoon, work Saturday and Sunday, and return on Monday. Give me a call or reply to my email to share in the fun that will help out your fellow caver and the Rancher who has been cutoff for a couple of months. Gary Franklin UT Grotto - Austin Texas 512-585-6057 caver.g...@gmail.com Please reply to mmin...@caver.net Permanent email address is mmin...@illinoisalumni.org - Visit our website: http://texascavers.com To unsubscribe, e-mail: texascavers-unsubscr...@texascavers.com For additional commands, e-mail: texascavers-h...@texascavers.com
