[Texascavers] WWBRD? [Texascavers] The alter-Epic at Honey Creek Cave

2009-02-05 Thread wwildchild


For the record, since I failed to?include one of?the?funniest moments in my 
alter-epic story of hypothermia in Honey creek, less than an hour into my 
ordeal a catch phrase popped into my head and I actually said it out loud and 
laughed pretty hard because well I didn't actually know, except that he 
probably wouldn't have gotten himself into this situation in the first 
place.?I'm actually quite surprised WWBRD? wasn't flashing on my?hallucinated 
computer screen. 

WWBRD - What would Bill Russell Do?


Puppy
=:-)


Re: Re: [Texascavers] The alter-Epic at Honey Creek Cave

2009-02-04 Thread jranzau

Made me cold reading it!

On Feb 4, 2009 11:07am, Thomas Sitch  wrote:

An excellent and suspenseful telling, Puppy!



I feel like it needs to be bound and placed on the shelf next to "Into  

Thin Air." 'Glad you made it out in one piece :)




Best Regards,



~~Thomas

--- On Wed, 2/4/09, wwildch...@aol.com wwildch...@aol.com> wrote:


From: wwildch...@aol.com wwildch...@aol.com>
Subject: [Texascavers] The alter-Epic at Honey Creek Cave
To: Texascavers@texascavers.com
Date: Wednesday, February 4, 2009, 10:42 AM



Puppy here. I haven't opened my texas cavers mail folder in a long time  
(1,236 unread messages) since topics tend to vary way off of caving at  
times but I saw the epic Honey Creek title and couldn't help jumping back  
in to tell my long winded epic. So delete now if you've already seen the  
movie.



Yes I had a bit more of an adventure than everyone else (well except for  
that lucky Ninja brown, but his adventure was fun). Diana isn't to blame  
and neither is Bill (although I won't ever let him forget he forgot me). I  
pushed myself too far by attempting HC 6 days after running a marathon. My  
feeble attempt to help Creature carry a tank back out made me realize just  
how far gone my body was and I should have stuck closer to someone. And by  
the way Creature is one of the most incredible super human cavers I have  
ever known. I watched her grab a tank and practically run when I could  
barely carry my

pack and her Tang at a slow crawl.

This is a bit long but it was my way to document for myself my experience  

so I thought i would share it as well.


I remember passing the water well and yelling a good "yahoo" knowing the  
exit was near. plus at this point the water is deeper and much easier to  
float on my pack and rest my body with minimal effort of just moving with  
my toes. then came the cold and fog and I thought wow I didn't know there  
was another air access point (hhmmnn wonder if bill knows about this). so I  
kept going enjoying my easy float. then the fog cleared and after a few  
minutes I realized I apparently just had never looked up from following the  
crowds because this part of the cave is quite nice. rock bottom, nice and  
clear and quite pretty. I wondered if somehow I had taken a wrong turn so I  
stopped, listened and heard bill and several others splashing and talking  
still coming in my direction thus i must be going the right
way still. I went on about 10 more minutes (I didn't have a watch) when I  
came across a very low ceiling and I knew I had never been here before. For  
the first time in hours my brain actually sparked and said oh shit.  
suddenly all the pieces: fog, cold, etc clicked.I turned back but I wasn't  
panicked because I would run into everyone in 10-15 min I was sure. It took  
about 10min to make my way back to the entrance going at a fast pace only  
to find three harnesses (two extras and my own) hanging but no cable. Not a  
problem they are just in the middle of un hooking people so I put my  
harness on, shined my light up a few times and waited, 5 min later nothing.  
I shined my brightest pelican light up the shaft and yelled for a minute or  
two but I knew that was useless if no one was actually looking down. I've  
been through this exit twice before so I knew it was a mad dash from the  
shaft to your tent to get dry and warm and shove something in your mouth
then pass out. I was getting very cold very fast so I set a timeline of  
yelling for a few more minutes then I would focus on sheltering in place  
for the night. The low was around 35 that night and a strong wind comes  
straight down that shaft but I rationalized I couldn't ri sk moving farther  
back into the cave for fear someone would come back for the gear.


Then my light died and I messed around with an alternate light and  
switching out another light out of creatures bag to make sure I had plenty  
of backup. I still had two long sleeve thermal shirts and two pairs of  
running tights and dry thermal socks that I had in my dry bag for the wait  
at the end. Creatures bag I just found a skimpy pair of spandex hotpants  
(sorry creature, but I got the biggest laugh out of that at that moment  
since there wasn't enough material to keep one nugget warm) The shaft area  
is all standing water, but through a crack near the floor where I could see  
a shelf of
rock just above water level in the adjoining room. I put the gear bags  
against the crack to block the wind and went to the other side and moved  
lots of rock to make a bed. It was equivalent to climbing under a standard  
2'x5' coffee table. once i was situated out of the water I attempted to  
exchange my boots and neoprene socks for a pair of nice dry thermal socks  
(not easily done with an 18" ceiling) along with the two pairs of tights  
(over my harness of course). my feet were alrea

Re: [Texascavers] The alter-Epic at Honey Creek Cave

2009-02-04 Thread Thomas Sitch
An excellent and suspenseful telling, Puppy!
 
I feel like it needs to be bound and placed on the shelf next to "Into Thin 
Air."  'Glad you made it out in one piece :)
 
Best Regards,
 
~~Thomas

--- On Wed, 2/4/09, wwildch...@aol.com  wrote:

From: wwildch...@aol.com 
Subject: [Texascavers] The alter-Epic at Honey Creek Cave
To: Texascavers@texascavers.com
List-Post: texascavers@texascavers.com
Date: Wednesday, February 4, 2009, 10:42 AM



Puppy here.  I haven't opened my texas cavers mail folder in a long time (1,236 
unread messages) since topics tend to vary way off of caving at times but I saw 
the epic Honey Creek title and couldn't help jumping back in to tell my long 
winded epic. So delete now if you've already seen the movie.


Yes I had a bit more of an adventure than everyone else (well except for that 
lucky Ninja brown, but his adventure was fun). Diana isn't to blame and neither 
is Bill (although I won't ever let him forget he forgot me). I pushed myself 
too far by attempting HC 6 days after running a marathon. My feeble attempt to 
help Creature carry a tank back out made me realize just how far gone my body 
was and I should have stuck closer to someone. And by the way Creature is one 
of the most incredible super human cavers I have ever known. I watched her grab 
a tank and practically run when I could barely carry my pack and her Tang at a 
slow crawl. 

This is a bit long but it was my way to document for myself my experience so I 
thought i would share it as well.

I remember passing the water well and yelling a good "yahoo" knowing the exit 
was near. plus at this point the water is deeper and much easier to float on my 
pack and rest my body with minimal effort of just moving with my toes. then 
came the cold and fog and I thought wow I didn't know there was another air 
access point (hhmmnn wonder if bill knows about this). so I kept going enjoying 
my easy float. then the fog cleared and after a few minutes I realized I 
apparently just had never looked up from following the crowds because this part 
of the cave is quite nice. rock bottom, nice and clear and quite pretty. I 
wondered if somehow I had taken a wrong turn so I stopped, listened and heard 
bill and several others splashing and talking still coming in my direction thus 
i must be going the right way still. I went on about 10 more minutes (I didn't 
have a watch) when I came across a very low ceiling and I knew I had never been 
here before. For the first time
 in hours my brain actually sparked and said oh shit. suddenly all the pieces: 
fog, cold, etc clicked.I turned back but I wasn't panicked because I would run 
into everyone in 10-15 min I was sure. It took about 10min to make my way back 
to the entrance going at a fast pace only to find three harnesses (two extras 
and my own) hanging but no cable. Not a problem they are just in the middle of 
un hooking people so I put my harness on, shined my light up a few times and 
waited, 5 min later nothing. I shined my brightest pelican light up the shaft 
and yelled for a minute or two but I knew that was useless if no one was 
actually looking down. I've been through this exit twice before so I knew it 
was a mad dash from the shaft to your tent to get dry and warm and shove 
something in your mouth then pass out.  I was getting very cold very fast so I 
set a timeline of yelling for a few more minutes then I would focus on 
sheltering in place for the night. The low
 was around 35 that night and a strong wind comes straight down that shaft but 
I rationalized I couldn't ri sk moving farther back into the cave for fear 
someone would come back for the gear.

Then my light died and I messed around with an alternate light and switching 
out another light out of creatures bag to make sure I had plenty of backup. I 
still had two long sleeve thermal shirts and two pairs of running tights and 
dry thermal socks that I had in my dry bag for the wait at the end. Creatures 
bag I just found a skimpy pair of spandex hotpants (sorry creature, but I got 
the biggest laugh out of that at that moment since there wasn't enough material 
to keep one nugget warm) The shaft area is all standing water, but through a 
crack near the floor where I could see a shelf of rock just above water level 
in the adjoining room. I put the gear bags against the crack to block the wind 
and went to the other side and moved lots of rock to make a bed. It was 
equivalent to climbing under a standard 2'x5' coffee table. once i was situated 
out of the water I attempted to exchange my boots and neoprene socks for a pair 
of nice dry thermal socks (not
 easily done with an 18" ceiling) along with the two pairs of tights (over my 
harness of course). my feet were already light blue and my toes dark blue when 
I put the socks on.  I didn't want to put my wet boots back on so to keep them 
dry I dumped

[Texascavers] The alter-Epic at Honey Creek Cave

2009-02-04 Thread wwildchild

Puppy here.? I haven't opened my texas cavers mail folder in a long time (1,236 
unread messages) since topics tend to vary way off of caving at times but I saw 
the epic Honey Creek title and couldn't help jumping back in to tell my long 
winded epic. So delete now if you've already seen the movie.


Yes I had a bit more of an adventure than everyone else (well except for that 
lucky Ninja brown, but his adventure was fun). Diana isn't to blame and neither 
is Bill (although I won't ever let him forget he forgot me). I pushed myself 
too far by attempting HC 6 days after running a marathon. My feeble attempt to 
help Creature carry a tank back out made me realize just how far gone my body 
was and I should have stuck closer to someone. And by the way Creature is one 
of the most incredible super human cavers I have ever known. I watched her grab 
a tank and practically run when I could barely carry my pack and her Tang at a 
slow crawl. 

This is a bit long but it was my way to document for myself my experience so I 
thought i would share it as well.

I remember passing the water well and yelling a good "yahoo" knowing the exit 
was near. plus at this point the water is deeper and much easier to float on my 
pack and rest my body with minimal effort of just moving with my toes. then 
came the cold and fog and I thought wow I didn't know there was another air 
access point (hhmmnn wonder if bill knows about this). so I kept going enjoying 
my easy float. then the fog cleared and after a few minutes I realized I 
apparently just had never looked up from following the crowds because this part 
of the cave is quite nice. rock bottom, nice and clear and quite pretty. I 
wondered if somehow I had taken a wrong turn so I stopped, listened and heard 
bill and several others splashing and talking still coming in my direction thus 
i must be going the right way still. I went on about 10 more minutes (I didn't 
have a watch) when I came across a very low ceiling and I knew I had never been 
here before. For the first time in hours my brain actually sparked and said oh 
shit. suddenly all the pieces: fog, cold, etc clicked.I turned back but I 
wasn't panicked because I would run into everyone in 10-15 min I was sure. It 
took about 10min to make my way back to the entrance going at a fast pace only 
to find three harnesses (two extras and my own) hanging but no cable. Not a 
problem they are just in the middle of un hooking people so I put my harness 
on, shined my light up a few times and waited,?5 min later nothing. I shined my 
brightest pelican light up the shaft and yelled for a minute or two but I knew 
that was useless if no one was actually looking down. I've been through this 
exit twice before so I knew it was a mad dash from the shaft to your tent to 
get dry and warm and shove something in your mouth then pass out.? I was 
getting very cold very fast so I set a timeline of yelling for a few more 
minutes then I would focus on sheltering in place for the night. The low was 
around 35 that night and a strong wind comes straight down that shaft but I 
rationalized I couldn't risk moving 

farther back into the cave for fear someone would come back for the gear.

Then my light died and I messed around with an alternate light and switching 
out another light out of creatures bag to make sure I had plenty of backup. I 
still had two long sleeve thermal shirts and two pairs of running tights and 
dry thermal socks that I had in my dry bag for the wait at the end. Creatures 
bag I just found a skimpy pair of spandex hotpants (sorry creature, but I got 
the biggest laugh out of that at that moment since there wasn't enough material 
to keep one nugget warm) The shaft area is all standing water, but through a 
crack near the floor where I could see a shelf of rock just above water level 
in the adjoining room. I put the gear bags against the crack to block the wind 
and went to the other side and moved lots of rock to make a bed. It was 
equivalent to climbing under a standard 2'x5' coffee table. once i was situated 
out of the water I attempted to exchange my boots and neoprene socks for a pair 
of nice dry thermal socks (not easily done with an 18" ceiling) along with the 
two pairs of tights (over my harness of course). my feet were already light 
blue and my toes dark blue when I put the socks on.??I didn't want to put my 
wet boots back on so to keep them dry I dumped out my dry bag and put both feet 
in the bag in case my feet slipped off the shelf during the night into the 
water. I also had two trash bags that I poked my head out the top of that I 
could keep my arms inside and I would breath into the bag to add heat.

So there I laid occasionally pulling my face out of the bag to watch my breath 
freeze in the air. I was shivering quite profusely for what seemed like hours 
but I really don;t know. I thought of all kinds of ways to communicate with the 
top but?most involved getting on the internet to whi